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Is there any way how to get Wizard´s processor overclocked?

I think...if someone provide application to get OMAP working frequency around 300MHz, then it could really speed up whole MDA and still the battery will be good enough to provide power for 3-5hours of work :?: :roll:
It can resolve many speed issues and convince many people to use Wizard. So, any ideas, programs...?
(I´am not sure if that is possible for this type of processor...just asking a dumb question)

Re: Is there any way how to get Wizard´s processor overclock
MultiTricker said:
I think...if someone provide application to get OMAP working frequency around 300MHz, then it could really speed up whole MDA and still the battery will be good enough to provide power for 3-5hours of work :?: :roll:
It can resolve many speed issues and convince many people to use Wizard. So, any ideas, programs...?
(I´am not sure if that is possible for this type of processor...just asking a dumb question)
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Nothing yet that I know of... closest app. that should be out soon in the wild is PocketHackMaster for OMAP... see this post from the author of the software:
http://www.antontomov.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=835&view=findpost&p=5240

Re: Is there any way how to get Wizard´s processor overclock
MultiTricker said:
I think...if someone provide application to get OMAP working frequency around 300MHz, then it could really speed up whole MDA and still the battery will be good enough to provide power for 3-5hours of work :?: :roll:
It can resolve many speed issues and convince many people to use Wizard. So, any ideas, programs...?
(I´am not sure if that is possible for this type of processor...just asking a dumb question)
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Nothing yet that I know of... closest app. that should be out soon in the wild is PocketHackMaster for OMAP... see this post from the author of the software:
http://www.antontomov.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=835&view=findpost&p=5240

Immier from Immierisoft (XCPUScaler) is also looking into this. Hopefully, we'll see something from XCPUScaler that overclocks the OMAP850 soon. I'd sure like to see a performance boost on the PDA side of things...

I would like to see an app that would boost for x number of seconds when a program is executed. I don't need to drain the battery after the app is loaded. Perhaps also after a read command is issued, too.
Just my non-programmer thoughts.

Both PHM and XCPUScaler will allow you to push the processor based on laod, so you get more power when you need it, and a lower processor speed when the processor is idle.
Both need to be updated to support the OMAP850, however. We're waiting for that to happen...

Thanks for the info, Chris. I'm a bit new to these devices & thus don't know what all can do what. You just saved me some research!

Thank you all for your responses, I´m more happy now, when I know that PHM will fully support OMAP in next version (which will be available in half month)

ChrisSpera said:
Immier from Immierisoft (XCPUScaler) is also looking into this. Hopefully, we'll see something from XCPUScaler that overclocks the OMAP850 soon. I'd sure like to see a performance boost on the PDA side of things...
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Good G-2 Chris - thanks! Now, which will be first out I wonder???.....

the omap definitely can be overclocked. we are just wiaitng for immer or anton.
an overclocker app already exists for omap for plam devices (pah pah), which shows it works:
www.clievideo.com
omap information (just FYI):
http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wt...00&path=templatedata/cm/product/data/omap_850

yet nothing of nothing

Am waiting for over clocking too. i hade to write something so i am posted by email with any further development of the softwares listed.
all i can say is i hope theres no over heating and unstableness.
am sure we should have something soon for cristmas. if not then january sales.

Sorry all: just 'subscribing' to this thread too. Sorry

guys, whilst we are 'twiddling our thumbs' perhaps we could report any apps we particularly want to see improved. I have found all the games I install (even 3d games like Anthelion 2 from pdamill and star wars racer)and TCPMP and hacking tools seem to run fine. The only piece of software that frustrates me is SKYPE low_cpu. Although I hear that the skype team are working on it.
Therefore for me, this is more of a toy then a necessity!

Are there any news regarding overclocking the Wizard?

Overclocking - is it possible?

i am wondering if there is any possibility to overclock the cpu of the HD as it was possible on old HTC devices with omap processors?
i often found the HD to be very slow and i would like some more speed 9as probably most of us)
would it be adviseble to overclock it?
thanks for any useful info!

would be very cool! i bet htc is running it in a ridicolous safe speed =)

no infos on that matter?
any tech guy with some more experience?
nobody?

i did some research in to the matter, and there are some things that can be changed but i believe its just timeings, at the moment it would appear that you can not adjust the clock speed its self.
Also, changing the timings seemed to have a negative affect on stability, id imagin that whilst the clock speed may be running low, the timings are about as tight as you can get.

anyone tried using Pocket Hack Master yet?

will try it out tonight

I tried it but it didn't work. May not have been the right version perhaps.
It was a few weeks ago so I can't remember what actually happened when I tried it sorry.

there is a dynamic overclocking software for specifically qualcomm chipset. it's good anyway.

JohnQ said:
there is a dynamic overclocking software for specifically qualcomm chipset. it's good anyway.
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Don't be coy. Let us in on the action

JohnQ said:
there is a dynamic overclocking software for specifically qualcomm chipset. it's good anyway.
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i wonder what software that would be?
can you point it for us? any details about it? would it be dangerous for HD integrity?

just installed it, then bells rang..... ur processor is not supported, looked rubbishw when the app loaded up. all distored, defiantely not meant for our wvga. Soooooo whats this qualcom overclocking software... i will explore google see what i can find.....

id give up, i searched for ages to no avail, i believe the only thing that can we tweaked are various timings but it seems that almost any attempt improve these results in instability and crashing.

I'm not really interested in overclocking, but I saw this thread and remembered I saw somewhere else some info on this subject.
Perhaps this is something to try:
http://www.htc-touch-info.com/en/overclocking/

Updated: March 2, 2009
WTF?!?!?!anyone tested stability of the 2 day old version?

HappyLlama said:
I'm not really interested in overclocking, but I saw this thread and remembered I saw somewhere else some info on this subject.
Perhaps this is something to try:
http://www.htc-touch-info.com/en/overclocking/
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This won't work - the Touch HD has a Qualcomm processor NOT an OMAP

Yes Please let us in on the action

well, i've saw this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=507798&highlight=overclock , but you guys read carefully, its apeears to be no effect, through if it has, every processor u overclock have its life shortened...i've a blue angel, 400 mhz working at a 200~530, xscale processor can do this (change it's frequency accordinto to the necessary) but i wond the Qualcomm ones do the same (according to the post appears to not, but it's no cleary).
everyone may say...so all you said righ now is a load of crap... Thats not, i'm just sharing wat i've discovered until now, since i've gone to blackstone few day ago.

Blackstone is slow?? I'm about to get it in several days. Please enlight me when comparing blackstone with Hermes (currently using). Thanks

damikey said:
Blackstone is slow?? I'm about to get it in several days. Please enlight me when comparing blackstone with Hermes (currently using). Thanks
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i think most if not all winmo is slow but i love it still lol

Slowest device ever???

Hey guys!
I just wrote a little OpenGL ES application for my HD2 (just renderings ome quads). And guess what: it runs MUCH slower than any other HTC device I had.
The framerate is < 1. Even the MS Device emulator runs faster!
How's that possible? I thought the HD2 was super fast (according to several benchmarks I saw).
Is there some scret registry hack? A magic driver?
WTF! This can't be true....

VanKurt said:
Hey guys!
I just wrote a little OpenGL ES application for my HD2 (just renderings ome quads). And guess what: it runs MUCH slower than any other HTC device I had.
The framerate is < 1. Even the MS Device emulator runs faster!
How's that possible? I thought the HD2 was super fast (according to several benchmarks I saw).
Is there some scret registry hack? A magic driver?
WTF! This can't be true....
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That's weird!!! Look to this video which compares the HD2 with the HD in a OpenGL stress test. HD2 behaves very very good.

Yeah, that's weird
I just tested it again: the same application on my Diamond 2 (WM6.1) and the HD2 (Wm6.5). On the D2 it runs smooth as hell, on the HD2 it gets around 0.5 FPS.

OpenGL test
How well does your app run on other devices?
VanKurt said:
Hey guys!
I just wrote a little OpenGL ES application for my HD2 (just renderings ome quads). And guess what: it runs MUCH slower than any other HTC device I had.
The framerate is < 1. Even the MS Device emulator runs faster!
How's that possible? I thought the HD2 was super fast (according to several benchmarks I saw).
Is there some scret registry hack? A magic driver?
WTF! This can't be true....
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As far as I know, fine.
For example the hdBoobs app from this forum: works fine for most people, doesn't work fine on any HD2

OpenGL ES 1.x? or 2.0?

Friend, not all devices are created equally The HD2 has issues with OpenGL ES 1.x, seems it isn't "backwards-compatible", so use 2.0 to see the true capabilities of the SnapDragon!!

Okay, thanks for the hint
So far I was using the C# Wrapper found here:
http://www.koushikdutta.com/2008/08/net-compact-framework-wrapper-for.html
So I guess this one uses OpenGL ES 1.0? Then a maybe stupid question: How can I use OpenGL ES 2.0 with C#? Is there another Wrapper for this?
Thanks a lot!

Whats your ROM version? most games seem fine on the one in my sig, can you post the app your testing?

Try this silly thing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=526911

Ahh was going to comment in your thread about that lol
The loading screen loads up and flys off the top of the screen on my device but no boobs lol just a blank screen??

CPU Throttling

Hi Gang!
I started my HTC journey with the original Touch which at the time was an unbelievable device.
I used to have a CPU throttling utility that would underclock the CPU to bare minimum when not in use and would overclock it under heavy usage.
The result was better performance and lower battery consumption.
Does such a software exist for our HD2? Or maybe it's already doing that throttling natively?

If this is available i would like to have this application as well. It would be nice for the small battery pack.
BTW, would they release a new battery with a higher volt/wattage?
Well, for the app if its out there come to us

Been thinking the same and this should have been included in the device in the first place. I believe Toshiba TG-01 has this. Would help improving the quite disapointing battery lifetime. Lousy HTC...

Alisha said:
Been thinking the same and this should have been included in the device in the first place. I believe Toshiba TG-01 has this. Would help improving the quite disapointing battery lifetime. Lousy HTC...
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Idk if Toshiba has it, but still i would go for the HTC HD2 because this device is magnificent. It has it all and you can do with it all. If I didn't got a girlfriend I would do the other stuff with it to hahaa
Well fortunately I got one so don't be afraid for some weird news haha..

Well, I'm not here to discuss HD2 shortcomings, although there are always things to improve with *any* things.
Anyways...
I have looked at CPU throttling utilities for the Qualcomm Snapdragon CPU and it appears indeed that the Toshiba TG01 has such utility. It's not clear at this point if it's an OS-level utility and it seems that it needs to be manually set.
I'm new at xda so I'm not sure whether somebody could port that app for our HD2 and automate the throttling...?
I guess if we're able to develop a HSPL for the HD2 then this is doable as well... provided that there is enough interest in it.
Thoughts?

Have you tried nueDynamicClock?
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueDynamicClock.aspx
dwizzy130

I'm not sure it supports Snapdragon...?
And I'm actually more interested in underclocking/undervolting that overclocking, 1 GHz is plenty fast for me so far

gshdtwo said:
I'm not sure it supports Snapdragon...?
And I'm actually more interested in underclocking/undervolting that overclocking, 1 GHz is plenty fast for me so far
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Yea, I guess it might not support 1GHz... But it is intended for only underclocking, not overclocking....
Idk, it'd be interesting to try.
dwizzy130

dwizzy130 said:
Have you tried nueDynamicClock?
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueDynamicClock.aspx
dwizzy130
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doesnt work at all.

OpenGL 2.0? Please explain me...

Hello to everybody. I read some articles about windows games and I found that, in some cases, a lot of people claim that HD2 is not built with OpenGL 2.0 inside, but only 1.1
Since I am not an expert or a developer, could someone explain me the differences between the two different library? I mean, I know that 2.0 is for sure better than 1.1, but are there drivers, programs or software to install? Are they "in-built" inside the chipset?
If not, how to test if HD2 is capable to run OpenGL 2.0?
Thanks a lot to everybody

Hi
http://www.southend.se/games/electopia/index.php
Its an OpenGL2.0 game that perfectly runs on Leo, that means Leo HAS Opengl 2.0 support.

yeah there's quite a lot of FUD spread around about the HD2..
It does seem sometimes as if it's deliberate attacks against it.
HD2 does support GL 2 ( I think more specifically openGL ES 2.0)
there is now an openGL 3.2
http://www.khronos.org/ for some reading
To be honest I find openVG more intriguing as it has more potential for day to day use..

maybe we dont trust htc anymore