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Visibility of screen under sunshine

Hi all guys!
Anyone has tested the screen visibility under sunshine?
I have an HTC Touch and it's horrible...
Thanks!

It is visible but I won't say it is terrific. If it is not too good, I just need to tilt it a little and the screen will contrast and brighten.

Its horrible sometimes i think my phone is off..

I can barely make out the time in huge numbers

Actually this is another area that impresses me... I tried this out when I first got the phone and it is very readable/seeable... even in full sunlight I can see the screen... much better than my Kaiser/MDA Vario III

Shadowdh said:
Actually this is another area that impresses me... I tried this out when I first got the phone and it is very readable/seeable... even in full sunlight I can see the screen... much better than my Kaiser/MDA Vario III
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Seconded.

Shadowdh said:
Actually this is another area that impresses me... I tried this out when I first got the phone and it is very readable/seeable... even in full sunlight I can see the screen... much better than my Kaiser/MDA Vario III
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What screen settings are you using -- this thread includes responses that range from 0 to 10 and I suspect there are differences in settings. For exampled, have you turned off your screen autodimming feature?

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What screen settings are you using -- this thread includes responses that range from 0 to 10 and I suspect there are differences in settings. For exampled, have you turned off your screen autodimming feature?
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I have left it on the Auto feature... at first I thought my phone had a glitch as the screen kept going dim... but it works really well... I also tried it in full light (by trying to reflect the indoor light to make the screen as obscure as possible, had to be indoors as its raining like a mother here) and even though the screen did become less readable I could still read the book I had in ubook... a plus for me...

Shadowdh said:
Actually this is another area that impresses me... I tried this out when I first got the phone and it is very readable/seeable... even in full sunlight I can see the screen...
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What he said!

maybe with a nice screen protector you may see something
I have the anti-glare one and I don't expect to see a bright screen in the afternoon
but maybe some screen protectors may help although I doubt it

it is really visible (if I'm not putting my sunglasses on), i was really impressed when i first got the phone. just make sure you set the auto dimming on.

mystkai said:
maybe with a nice screen protector you may see something
I have the anti-glare one and I don't expect to see a bright screen in the afternoon
but maybe some screen protectors may help although I doubt it
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I use martin fields screen protector and its great, so maybe that does have something to it...

uh, did you guys set the backlight to auto adjust? I mean at first I knew to save battery life I had to manually adjust the backlight 2nd to the dimmest. but I coudln't see anything while under direct sun. but somehow, on auto adjust, the backlight seem to work under it. I think the device has light sensor.

Screen is very pixelated!!!

Wow, just got my Vibrant this morning and was expecting to really be blown away by this screen, so far I am not impressed. My HD2 screen was far better than this. Everything is just VERY pixelated. Is this normal???

Well if you think the HD2 looks better id say no, something might be wrong.
The diffrence from LCD and OLED is night and day
You have a decent camera? If so take a pic with a so we can see

1quickturbosix said:
Wow, just got my Vibrant this morning and was expecting to really be blown away by this screen, so far I am not impressed. My HD2 screen was far better than this. Everything is just VERY pixelated. Is this normal???
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QQ
just return it, and get a G2....
and save us from the QQ

the galaxy s screen does seem to have large gaps between pixels

Im not QQ'ing. But its all I heard was how awesome the screen was on this phone. Either way, love the phone so far.

1quickturbosix said:
Wow, just got my Vibrant this morning and was expecting to really be blown away by this screen, so far I am not impressed. My HD2 screen was far better than this. Everything is just VERY pixelated. Is this normal???
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Hmm... What is your comparison, save for the HD2?
What images/graphics/etc are you using for your tests?

1quickturbosix, you are right the AMOLED screen on the Vibrant is not as sharp as an LCD screen of the same resolution, this is due to the pentile matrix arrangement of the sub pixels that Samsung uses on their AMOLED displays. However the AMOLED screen on the Vibrant does beat the pants off of LCD when it comes to contrast, black level, motion resolution, and color saturation. I had an HD2 before the Vibrant and the effective resolution difference was obvious, especially with small text, but I've gotten used to it.
There was a really good article explaining the differences between LCD and AMOLED displays posted here a while back, I'll post it if I can find it.
I also want to mention that the Samsung Galaxy S line of phones have the best touch sensitivty out there, even better than the mighty iPhone4, due to the fact that the SAMOLED screen incorporates the digitizer where on LCD screes it would be two separate pieces.

1quickturbosix said:
Wow, just got my Vibrant this morning and was expecting to really be blown away by this screen, so far I am not impressed. My HD2 screen was far better than this. Everything is just VERY pixelated. Is this normal???
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search on this forum for "Samsung HD The Beauty of Nature"
you can thank me later. [i didn't make the video]

^ a link for this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8097635&highlight=Samsung+Beauty+Nature#post8097635

s15274n said:
^ a link for this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8097635&highlight=Samsung+Beauty+Nature#post8097635
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yeah this video made a lot of jaws drop. thanks to [whoever] did the encoding to fit our screen.

In general the AMOLED screens don't render text as well as LCDs, but images are better. I do notice pixellation in text when zoomed way out, but I generally try not to read tiny text.

Kubernetes said:
In general the AMOLED screens don't render text as well as LCDs, but images are better. I do notice pixellation in text when zoomed way out, but I generally try not to read tiny text.
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true true. good thing having better images far outweigh trying to read anything at 5pt font.

Milestone 2 TFTerrible Screen

Is anybody else noticing how dull the colours on the Milestone 2 is? ive looked around and havnt been able to find anybody else talking about it.
I took a few shots of it beside a ZTE Blade and a Zune HD (Zune on medium brightness, both phones on 30% brightness) and strangely enough the Blade's TFT screen looks identical to the Zunes OLED... and the Milestone looks awful!
im confused because the Blade cost 100 and the Milestone cost me 450!???
photos and a video here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/savagecabage/Milestone2TFTErrible#
is there some settings that im missing? im hoping there is. i feel like ive been screwed my motorola lol but i suppose its my own fault, i didnt really do that much research on the screen, i just presumed that a phone that cost 4 times as much as my last phone would have a decent screen
i got this info from pdadb.net, does this make sense to anybody?
ZTE Blade color transflective TFT , 262144 scales
Milestone 2 color transflective TFT , 16777216 scales
also there only seems to be about a 5-10 degree viewing angle on it, once the phone is tilted out side that the colour drops again, oh well

Do you have any screen protector or something on the MS? Are you sure screen brightnes is @30%? I have Droid2 Global and a Milestone (1) which both essentially have the same screen as on MS2 and it is not looking half that dull! True, colors aren't AMOLED like, but I would call it above average for TFT screen
Edit: just looked at the rest of the pics you provided and honestly the ZTE screen looks worse than the MS2 when it comes to color representation - everything feels redish/pinkinsh on it. The AMOLED is not comparable under this conditions. Take some photos at daylight to see "the other side of the coin"

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Do you have any screen protector or something on the MS? Are you sure screen brightnes is @30%? I have Droid2 Global and a Milestone (1) which both essentially have the same screen as on MS2 and it is not looking half that dull! True, colors aren't AMOLED like, but I would call it above average for TFT screen
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no screen protector on and im using widgetsoid power widget and have both of them set to 30% using that. yea maybe its that the ZTE Blade colours are over saturated and im just used to look at them that way, but there is definitely some colours wrong and dull in places, like the red in the youtube icon is more of a washed out red than thier logo usually is
ah not to worry i suppose, i probably wont even notice it in a few weeks, ill be selling of the blade then so i wont have anything to compare it to anymore
awesome phone apart from that though
if i find some better examples ill post them,
thanks

I also noticed this the night I took my Milestone 2 home... I was a little concerned at first, but the soft colors eventually grew on me and I dont mind it so much now

Shellite said:
I also noticed this the night I took my Milestone 2 home... I was a little concerned at first, but the soft colors eventually grew on me and I dont mind it so much now
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Its not just me so! thats nice to know im not going mad. im sure ill get used to it soon as well, its not the biggest deal breaker anyway, im just into a bit of photography in my spare time so i like being able to look at photos on my phone in the correct colour
this guy says the screen is vibrant? i must go ask him how he gets it so vibrant, maybe theres a setting somewhere to turn the colour back on
http://www.pocket-lint.com/review/5213/motorola-milestone-2-android-review
"It is vibrant and displays colours well"

According to DisplayMate (which is an authority on displays) the Milestone Droid has the most accurate colors of ANY mobile screen. SAMOLED has awfully inaccrate and fake colors due to the poor pentile matrix arrangement. I dont know if the OLED screen on the Zune is full RGB or also pentile, but its colors are also "gaudy" and no realistic. Compared to my LG's IPS panel, the Milestone is pretty close. I suggest that your eyes are just accustomed to fake and bleeding colors, or your LCD might be a lemon.
The Milestone's display is IPS with full color gamut and true 24 bit color, not a cheap TN panel like almost every other phone. However, Android 2.1 and 2.2 have galleries that are only 16 bit, so pictures look compressed, not the screen's fault. Blame Google.
Www.displaymate.com.
Sent from my Milestone using XDA App

This picture indicates just how bad the ZTE screen is. That background on the right isn't even remotely close to being white like it is supposed to be.
It appears to me that your Droid brightness settings are too low (or is on auto dimming) because the Droid's screen should be much brighter--something like 550 nits for the Droid to 300-350 nits.
Also, your eyes are clearly accustomed to "gaudy" and inaccurate colors from OLED, whereas the Droid's display is very accurate.
Have a look at this DisplayMate article that breaks down why the Droid is accurate, Galaxy S' SAMOLED (similar to the Zune's OLED) inaccurate: http://lh3.ggpht.com/_BZtTwn-keT4/TSb4DpoadvI/AAAAAAAAAc0/0pqLgfd_Uik/s640/IMG_2833.JPG
I recommend manually setting the brightness on your Droid. Personally, I prefer the screen very bright. Let your eyes adjust to the Droid, and if you still want overly saturated/fake/inaccurate OLED colors, then please sell your Droid 2 to me

ive had my milestone 2 a month and when i look at it i still think how awesome the screen is, really sharp and clear, colours are vibrant, and ive had to turn the brightness down to almost the lowest it will go because its so bright! lol.
but as with most things peoples perception varies, what looks or sounds great to one person might look or sound horrible to another..

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This picture indicates just how bad the ZTE screen is. That background on the right isn't even remotely close to being white like it is supposed to be.
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dont mind thoses pictures actually, using that camera wasnt the best idea, it white when looking at it, no red/pink in it
i think your talking about a different phone anyway, i had a quick look around display mate and couldnt find anything about the droid 2. they have stuff on the droid 1 but nothing on the droid 2. prolly a similar screen but might not be the same
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Also, your eyes are clearly accustomed to "gaudy" and inaccurate colors from OLED, whereas the Droid's display is very accurate.
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yea at first i was thinking that my eyes were just accustomed to "gaudy" colours as you said but if thats true then it means that every screen ive looked at in the last few years has been incorrect.
i just put my xperia x1 and touch pro on ebay and realised that they look "normal", i put some photos on them to look at and both of those seem to be roughly the same as the zte blade, not as saturated as the ZTE blade colours ill give you that, but similar enough, and i have two monitors on my computer here and the photos have exactly the same "normal" colours, but then looking at the same photos on the Milestone 2 they look fairly washed out, even with the brightness at 100% there is a big difference.
i change the brightness settings all the time though but in the photo they were both at the same brightness so it shouldnt matter what % it was just to comapre them
anyway im definitely not imagining it, ive been doing photography and graphic design for a good few years now so my eyes are able to tell small differences between colour at this stage (i wouldnt be much of a photographer/designer if i couldnt) and its more than a small difference, enough that id bother posting a thread here to see if anybody else is noticing it!
well, ive come to the conclusion the screen on my milestone 2 it a lemon... or maybe motorola is the lemon. one of those two, or both lol
i wont be selling it anytime soon though unfortunately sorry im enjoying this phone way to much, the issue doesnt really bother me enough to do something crazy like that..
i just thought it was strange to see it on a 450 phone thats all

mine sometimes as problems, but not that bad :/

dude i really dont think your phone or the screen is the problem, i think its your eyes, just look at the picture of that Rovio screen! the left one is white, the right one is PINK! obviously the m2 has a much more accurate screen.

anothadave said:
ive had my milestone 2 a month and when i look at it i still think how awesome the screen is, really sharp and clear, colours are vibrant, and ive had to turn the brightness down to almost the lowest it will go because its so bright! lol.
but as with most things peoples perception varies, what looks or sounds great to one person might look or sound horrible to another..
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i totally agree about the sharpness and the clearness and the vibrantness of the screen, great detail in it. and i just realised all the colours are really vibrant apart from light blue and red, everthing else seem to be normal. the light blue looks the palest, and then the reds arent as bad but definitely still some difference compared to my computer monitors and other phone screens ive been comparing to.
ah not to worry anyway, i was just curious whether it was a problem everybody was having or if it was just my screen, i wont lose any sleep over it

botnryan said:
dude i really dont think your phone or the screen is the problem, i think its your eyes, just look at the picture of that Rovio screen! the left one is white, the right one is PINK! obviously the m2 has a much more accurate screen.
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yea i didnt really notice that when i was uploading the photo, i just explained that in a post a few seconds ago. it must be just the camera im using, both of them are the same whiteness when looking at them, i was just trying to show the difference in the red colour. the zte blade was at an angle too so i dont know where the pink came from, i just looked at angry birds again on that phone,and at an angle and its still white, stupid camera lol

Savage, I think you might have a bad screen. Can you compare it to another Global or exchange it? The Droid 1, 2, R2D2, and Global all have the same IPS panel as reviewed by DisplayMate, which thinks it is the most color accurate on phones. The Droid does use dynamic contrast, so its colors are sometimes deeper than at other times. I notice this especially when changing wallpaper. Some look absolutely stunning (almost as good as my IPS hdtv), but others are washed out. This is part of the dynamic contrast kicking in and Android's limited 16 bit gallery. I despise dynamic contrast and always turn in off on all my monitors. Unfortunately, I dont know how to disable it on the Droid
Sent from my Milestone using XDA App

Yeah, I have the d2g, which I believe has the same screen as the m2, and I absolutely love the screen. The colors are very accurate and sharp, I used to have the captivate and I never liked how innacurate the colors were, whites never looked white, they looked grayish, and every other color had a bluish tint to them
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anothadave said:
ive had my milestone 2 a month and when i look at it i still think how awesome the screen is, really sharp and clear, colours are vibrant, and ive had to turn the brightness down to almost the lowest it will go because its so bright! lol.
but as with most things peoples perception varies, what looks or sounds great to one person might look or sound horrible to another..
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Same here, my brightness is always almost all the way down except in sunlight where I turn on auto brightness.

Great Display.
I have a lot of phones with different displays including an Xperia with the Bravia engine which I returned for my MS2 and I would have to say that this is one of the nicest displays out there.

[Q] Display issues on Omnia 7?

Hi guys,
I played with a Omnia7 at a local T-Mobile store yesterday. While I absolutly like the device and the colors of the OLED display I noticed a small issue: It looked like a few items (probably the ones beein showed most often) wrer like "burned" into the display. E.g. on a light background I could allways guess the Line "Windows Phone" and the logo at the top of the display. This stayed that way regardless what application I've been running.
So my question is if someone else ever notices things like that on her/his Omnia 7? I would guess thats due to the device beeing switched on all day long for months now so that the display has allready seen some sort of damage...

Nope, mine is working fine.
btw, i may experienced some similar issue on my previous device, the htc touch pro running wm6.5. some part of the screen just stayed there like a gloomy shadow for some time, esp when the screen is in dark backgrounds. i wonder if it is a design flaw or because of the ROM i'm running.

take a look at what happened to me! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=973337

That happens to OLED screens if their left on for long.
One of the reasons we dont have the option to leave the display always on in our phones.
Generally it mainly only happens to display phones since their screen is nearly always on and stay in the same place.

evolutionqy7 said:
That happens to OLED screens if their left on for long.
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Generally it mainly only happens to display phones since their screen is nearly always on and stay in the same place.
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Thats actually what I guessed, both.

I have my screen set to 5 mins (just for the sake if im on a game and dont want the app to tombstone and wait for a long reload)
But have no issues so far
The only complaint i have with AMOLED screen is the damn clarity is so poor compared to LCD's.
Where as it was crisp clear on SLCD on my HD7, the clarity on the SAMOLED screen reminds me newspapers wher you can see the squares in text and its not clear.

Need an opinion really fast! Is my nexus 6P display defective?

Hello guys...I think my nexus 6P has pretty bad viweing angles. It is exactly...and I mean exactly like in this video.
http ://youtu.be/XhEC4dE5XHg
Is it normal for amoled screens? Is yours the same? What should I do? I love this phone...but this is concerning me. I am waiting for your answers as I do not know if I should Return this one and ask for a new one.
Update 1: do you think a tempered glass protector will make a difference? I am about to apply one but if my unit is defective Ivwill wait until I exchange it

The viewing angles for me are crap. If I tilt it upwards the screen goes completely pink/purple. Left and right give a rainbow tint. I don't notice it 95% of the time though

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The viewing angles for me are crap. If I tilt it upwards the screen goes completely pink/purple. Left and right give a rainbow tint. I don't notice it 95% of the time though
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Do you think this is like a common thing? Or are we unlucky and most of the screens are better? It also pisses me off a little...otherwise i love the phone...but idk if I should ask for a replacement or not. I might also get a screen with a worst effect so that is why I am scard.

I think all screens are the same. Samsung kept the 100% ones and gave Huawei the 2. choice samples. If you use a higher brightness, it´s not really that bad. I´ve seen worse screens eg. in a Samsung Galaxy SIII where you could spot the glue marks..

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I think all screens are the same. Samsung kept the 100% ones and gave Huawei the 2. choice samples. If you use a higher brightness, it´s not really that bad. I´ve seen worse screens eg. in a Samsung Galaxy SIII where you could spot the glue marks..
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Funny enough i am coming from an s3 and had no problems with the screen on that one. I had to choose between the 6P and the s6 edge plus....and i chose the 6P cuz I saw that the edge plus had a really loose home button and I didn't want that. I still want the 6P more...i just really fell in love with it...but I do not know if I should try and rma it...
Is your also the same?

It's very common. There are several threads on here about it, lots of people affected and some having to return their phones 4 or 5 times to get one they are reasonable happy with.
Mine was really bad especially at angles. I returned for a refund. I couldn't be bothered to return it multiple times. Also I was annoyed that Google was ignoring my emails about it.

Tones1971 said:
It's very common. There are several threads on here about it, lots of people affected and some having to return their phones 4 or 5 times to get one they are reasonable happy with.
Mine was really bad especially at angles. I returned for a refund. I couldn't be bothered to return it multiple times. Also I was annoyed that Google was ignoring my emails about it.
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I really do not know what to do...also...if I should try another 6P or not...I am kinda afraid cuz at over 60% brighteness...my whites are actually whites instead of the pinkish whites i saw on this forum...at 100% even with adaptive they look really good. I am afraid I will get a unit with really bad uneven screen. I will try and post some pictures in a bit

It's frustrating. Like you I had an s3 and the screen on that was great. It didn't have bad whites or bad viewing angles and that was years ago

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It's frustrating. Like you I had an s3 and the screen on that was great. It didn't have bad whites or bad viewing angles and that was years ago
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I have the exact same feel! What would you do?

You might get used to the screen, don´t worry The Nexus 5 ( 2013 ) had a different type of screen where you could see the digitizer matrix if you looked close enough I´m happy with my Nexus 6p though it´s slightly warped now. The phone is great but not very sturdy from a mechanical point of view.

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You might get used to the screen, don´t worry The Nexus 5 ( 2013 ) had a different type of screen where you could see the digitizer matrix if you looked close enough I´m happy with my Nexus 6p though it´s slightly warped now. The phone is great but not very sturdy from a mechanical point of view.
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What do you mean when you say "warped" ?
I will post shortly some photos of the screen. Please let me know what you think

Okay....so here are my photos

It's an amoled. I've 4 s6. 2 10.5 tab s . 8.4 tab s and now a 9.7 tab s2 and there all the same. So it's not a defect . It's only wrong if it has a very noticeable hue or is uneven in colour. if it's even and has nice whites don't risk it

It's a shame because I love this damn device besides the crappy screen angles. Any slight deviation from straight on give me a bluish hue. Sad because the colors are so vibrant. I have played a bit with the saturation settings in Franco's kernel, but the color temp doesn't go high enough to tame the warm whites as much as I want. Just got my phone this past Monday and am still on the fence about an RMA. I just got the phone running where I want on CATA with Franco.
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Okay guys...this is my screen. The brighteness was at less than 50 and more than 70. Most of the shots were taken with adaptive brighteness on. The photos where the screen is really bright were taken with adaptive off and brighteness at around 90%
What do you think, should I try to replace it with a new one or do you think the screen is good enaugh? Would you keep it?
Here you go: http://imgur.com/gallery/PfBWw

whodatfan said:
It's a shame because I love this damn device besides the crappy screen angles. Any slight deviation from straight on give me a bluish hue. Sad because the colors are so vibrant. I have played a bit with the saturation settings in Franco's kernel, but the color temp doesn't go high enough to tame the warm whites as much as I want. Just got my phone this past Monday and am still on the fence about an RMA. I just got the phone running where I want on CATA with Franco.
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It's an amoled. I've 4 s6. 2 10.5 tab s . 8.4 tab s and now a 9.7 tab s2 and there all the same. So it's not a defect . It's only wrong if it has a very noticeable hue or is uneven in colour. if it's even and has nice whites don't risk it
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I think all screens are the same. Samsung kept the 100% ones and gave Huawei the 2. choice samples. If you use a higher brightness, it´s not really that bad. I´ve seen worse screens eg. in a Samsung Galaxy SIII where you could spot the glue marks..
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Tones1971 said:
It's frustrating. Like you I had an s3 and the screen on that was great. It didn't have bad whites or bad viewing angles and that was years ago
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Hey guys...check those photos

Mine looks white with good viewing angles

emb531 said:
Mine looks white with good viewing angles
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well, really happy for you, mate!
What about also checking my photos a bit?

Michael Ilie said:
well, really happy for you, mate!
What about also checking my photos a bit?
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That's looks like a good screen to me. Very uniform. Keep it . I would be chuffed if mine was like that. I think we become obsessed when first coming from Lcd or Ips screens but our eyes adjust and we end up realising that we have a good amoled or not. that comparable to the whites on my Samsung S6. And it took me 4 s6 phones to get a screen this good

Thanks a lot for your reply! You made me smile a little and feel better about it . When you say "that comparable to the whites on my Samsung S6." you mean that you compared my screen to your s6 or? I also think the screen looks kinda okay...getting just a little pink when I change the viewing angle...and then green if I move it a bit more. That's why I am saying I think the viewing angles are the ones bothering me. my screen also gets kinda pink...but when I get the brightenes all the way down and I am in adaptive mode. does that also happen on yours?