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Not all Nexus S SAMOLED Displays are the same

Hi everyone,
I'm starting this thread to show you guys that not all Nexus S AMOLEDS are the same. I purchased a Nexus S on launch day from one store, and my brother bought a nexus S from another best buy store. We were comparing each others phones, and mine turned out to be darker than his, specifically the whites. We compared our screens at full brightness, and we set the same backgrounds, and his was noticeably better looking. So I went and exchanged mine, the new one I got still suffered from having darker whites, but it was not as bad as the first one, so when we compared them again, his was still better. I took a few pictures of the new one i got compared with his (on right). It may not look like much, but if you look at it in person, it's very noticeable when they are next to each other. I think you guys should compare your nexus s with a display model at a store, or with someone else to see what I'm talking about. I think it's easiest to see what i'm talking about if you look at the search widget. Like I said the first one I had was worse, but I'm comparing the newly exchanged one (left) with my brothers (right).
http://i.imgur.com/iAbJW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0wlmy.jpg
http://imgur.com/mtqCZ.jpg
http://imgur.com/k0deb.jpg

mine is bright enough for me. thats really all i care about.

tekkitan said:
mine is bright enough for me. thats really all i care about.
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I agree with you
It's like my mom says not everything can be 100% perfect

Yeah I know what you're speaking of. I started a thread here about it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877497

I went through this when I bought dual monitors for my computer. It is nearly impossible to find two monitors exactly the same. You will not know the difference unless you keep comparing it to others.

momohammed20 said:
Hi everyone,
http://i.imgur.com/iAbJW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0wlmy.jpg
http://imgur.com/mtqCZ.jpg
http://imgur.com/k0deb.jpg
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in your pix... no to wallpapers are alike

tks989 said:
in your pix... no to wallpapers are alike
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lol thats true. it made me laugh lol
download a solid white wallpaper. set the brightness to the highest. if one of them is cool blue white then this is good screen. if its warm yellowish white, then its a bad screen.
also there is the issue with pinkish disaplay. download a solid gray wallpaper. set the brightness to the lowest, if the gray turns to pink a little. you have a defective screen no matter what others tell you. if it stays gray " like my old Samsung Galaxy S " then you have a perfect screen.
AND there is also the grid pattern matrix you can see on the lowest brightness on the same gray wallpaper. ALL of them are more visible on the Super Amoled screens, just try to get one that is not very noticable.
if you got all those 3 perfectly " with no dead pixels or stuck pixels. then your phone worth alot.
i sold my galaxy S USED more than i bought it NEW because of these effects when i mentioned them to the buyer and he saw with his own eyes the difference. plus it didnt have single scratch on the whole phone so it was like a brand new.

nit picking, there basically the same

rashad1 said:
nit picking, there basically the same
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No one's nitpicking. It's a matter of what you're willing to settle for. I paid my 580.00 for a phone to display the colors correctly. I didn't pay that much for the display to change colors just because I lower the brightness.

rashad1 said:
nit picking, there basically the same
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it's hard to show what i'm talking about in the picture, but in person (picture was taken with iphone 4, so it wont show that much), it is very noticeable if the two are side by side.

tks989 said:
in your pix... no to wallpapers are alike
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ya, after i took pics, i realized they were not on the same page on the home screen.

This is a very common issue on the Galaxy S phones too. Different suppliers are used in the manufacturing process resulting in some screens with warmer color temps, and others with cooler ones. The Engadget review of the Nexus S specifically called out a warmer temp by the way.
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Dumb question, but did you verify that the brightness levels in settings are set to the same values? Or at least compared the two phones when at the lowest and highest settings?

vroomr4 said:
Dumb question, but did you verify that the brightness levels in settings are set to the same values? Or at least compared the two phones when at the lowest and highest settings?
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ya, i actually made sure they were both brightest, and when they are both on the lowest, you can tell one of them displays brighter whites. But the first one I had was worse than the one I have in the pictures on the left, it's hard to notice that you have a screen that does not produce nice whites, unless you see another nexus s that does a better job.

I actually like the ones on the left, the ones on the right crush the blacks, resulting in basically everything washed out, even if it "looks" better to you, it isn't from a calibrator prospective.

The Evo 4G had the same thing going on with its display. HTC used 2 different Manufacturers for the screen, One Novatec, One Was Epson. I believe the Novatec panel had darker colors (warmer?) resulting in more of a purplish color on blacks (what ll_l_x_l_ll calls pink for whatever reason) While the epson didnt have any purplish tone, but most say had a washed out look.
I would say though that on the nexus S, probably 99% of them are going to have a little purplish effect on the lowest brightness setting. If the OPs brothers phone has no purplish color, that would be the first i have seen. Ive seen many many demo units, several video reviews, and even the 2.3 rom ported to other galaxy S phones, and they all have the "purplish" display.
All my whites on my phone are really white, and blacks are really black.
Only be concerned if your screen looks like this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882862
That would definatley warrant an exchange, because they are NOT supposed to look like that.
My Screen looks better than his I9000 though too, but that could be his camera too washing out the colors a bit

Psosmith82 said:
The Evo 4G had the same thing going on with its display. HTC used 2 different Manufacturers for the screen, One Novatec, One Was Epson. I believe the Novatec panel had darker colors (warmer?) resulting in more of a purplish color on blacks (what ll_l_x_l_ll calls pink for whatever reason) While the epson didnt have any purplish tone, but most say had a washed out look.
I would say though that on the nexus S, probably 99% of them are going to have a little purplish effect on the lowest brightness setting. If the OPs brothers phone has no purplish color, that would be the first i have seen. Ive seen many many demo units, several video reviews, and even the 2.3 rom ported to other galaxy S phones, and they all have the "purplish" display.
All my whites on my phone are really white, and blacks are really black.
Only be concerned if your screen looks like this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882862
That would definatley warrant an exchange, because they are NOT supposed to look like that.
My Screen looks better than his I9000 though too, but that could be his camera too washing out the colors a bit
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Yeah my camera isn't great, it was poor light but it was enough to show the difference.
My i9000 screen is pretty incredible, I'd be impressed if I saw one better.
Oddly though, you say that if it turns blue when the brightness is turned right up, it's a good screen - my Nexus S does that. But it's yellow when the brightness is low.
Personally I think I'm going to take your advice in another thread. I'm going to return this phone for a refund, enjoy using my i9000 for a while as it's now apparent that the screen is excellent (I never really had GPS issues either, so I'm pretty lucky), and go around stores when they have stock to find a screen that compares favourably against my i9000. I'm in a nice position that I can do a side-by-side comparison each time.

momohammed20 said:
it's hard to show what i'm talking about in the picture, but in person (picture was taken with iphone 4, so it wont show that much), it is very noticeable if the two are side by side.
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bazinga.
hit under the belt.

Why not load up Google site in the browser to do your comparison? That way its identical.

lol
So, I guess not many of you have ever messed around with the LCD monitor in front of you (if you have one).
Mine I can set to be a cool white or a warm white.
Here is the real problem... Your brother is smarter than you. You see, there is a difference maybe in the screens. But instead of him *****ing about it, he likely just said his was better. Thus leaving you with the **** screen.
The tables could have been turned if you would have said "HAHA your screen is broken, and mine is better" the second you found the screens were different. Then it would be him here all upset about the screen.
The things people ***** about on this form are just crazy. And no, I don't care about how much you spent on your phone. When you buy any product you should only have a expectation that it is usable, not perfect. And thats mostly because perfect is mostly opinion when it comes to things like this.
Also, this is a phone, not a pro display marked for having the most accurate color production.
What kills me most is the people who take phones back over and over for problems that only exist in their heads. All you are doing is raising the cost of phones and keeping them high for everybody else.

Color compare between Atrix and N1

I just check the same pic on my Atrix 4G , and Nexus one, as well as my IPS screen.
here are the sample:
1st attatchment is Atrix
2nd is Nexus one
3rd is Atrix vs N1
4th is original pic taken with Canon 5DmkII
IMO,
Atrix has washed out color
Nexus One(AMOLED) is overSaturated
My IPS lcd screen is calibrated by Spyder 2 pro.
I may like the color on Atrix, coz I am tired of AMOLED oversaturated color.
I dont have Inspire, so I can't judge on the SuperLCD screen.
Your judgement?

your atrix screen suffers from a yellow tint. it happens in all phones including iphone, nexus S " all phones "
there are 2 types of screens
1- yellow tinted screen
2- blue tinted screen. your nexus 1 is blue. while your atrix is yellow.
the blue one is the better screen, you will notice it when you put a blank white wallpaper. and on high brightness, you will see you atrix has yellow tint to it while your nexus 1 doesnt.
i say swap your atrix for better screen.
also you have to keep in mind that your screen is not Super Amoled. so dont compare contasts .

Just my $0.02, but I think the Atrix screen is better. It represents real colors, not oversaturated colors that everyone seems to love on phone screens now.

Atrix had the best of everything in these. Definition, color balance, skin tones, etc. Anyone who clames different now is full of crap.
+1 Thanks for the comparison. This should be stickied for all fanboys to see.

The N1 is waaay to red in my opinion.
The atrix could use a bit more warmth in the colours but not really that bad

More importantly, who's the girl..!?
Joking aside, the Atrix looks far more natural. I'm getting mine in a couple of hrs & have currently a N1 so I'll be comparing a lot in a while. Can't wait!

I think the atrix screen is great. I really dig the realistic colors. It's not perfect, but it's better than the N1 by far.
I still think that the iPhone has a better screen, i just don't want to use 3.5" anymore. It's too small and limiting.

One thing though that I notice between this and the n1 is that I can actually use the atrix in direct sunlight and that's a +1.
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lostsoulktash said:
One thing though that I notice between this and the n1 is that I can actually use the atrix in direct sunlight and that's a +1.
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this! and only this! I can see the atrix screen @ 50% brightness in direct sunlight whereas I could barely make out anything on my N1 @ 100% brightness in direct sunlight!

The atrix cant do the color yellow at all.. Look up yellow on wikipedia, you will see what I mean. Doesnt matter what shade the phone is, it cant do yellow. iPhones do it perfectly, as does my captivate.
That being said, the flesh tones are FAR better than on a SMOLED.

psufan5 said:
The atrix cant do the color yellow at all.. Look up yellow on wikipedia, you will see what I mean. Doesnt matter what shade the phone is, it cant do yellow. iPhones do it perfectly, as does my captivate.
That being said, the flesh tones are FAR better than on a SMOLED.
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The color orange (being based on yellow) looks far worse to me..... I did a test with al the colors on wikipedia.... . That said, the darker colors look better imo. Especially purple & black.

Resolved

Issue resolved!

I think the crispness of the text is because of the slcd . I had a galaxy s before I bought my nexus s .. The first difference i noticed was indeed the crispness of the text, on s amoled the text always looked a bit fuzzy even with sharpnes fixes... I do think the colorurs on the s amoled screen were "richer" than on the slcd screen.

If there's anything that bothers me about my i9020, it's that I can barely read the fuzzy, vague text on the screen. I can BARELY make it out half the time.
Very jealous of you guys.
EDIT: Im quite surprised no-one realised I was joking. I think my phone's screen looks amazing.

I don't know guys. I can read all the text on my i9020 just fine. I read all my kindle books on the smallest text settings and have no issues. This apps text looks great and so is web browsing.
This phone never had the yellow washed out color that alot of people complained about either.
The few times I've seen the two phones side by side the slcd screen looked terribly washed out compared to the super amoled.
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I have no problem reading the smallest of text on my SAMOLED Nexus S either and the pentile layout has never bothered me. In fact, side by side with a SLCD Nexus S the only way I can tell one from the other is by the black levels.
They are both very good displays.
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tatwamasi said:
If there's anything that bothers me about my i9020, it's that I can barely read the fuzzy, vague text on the screen. I can BARELY make it out half the time.
Very jealous of you guys.
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Either your phone needs to be repaired or you may need to get your eyes checked.
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Same here. I don't notice any fuzzy texts on the Nexus S or even the Vibrant when I had it (people were saying the same thing for the Vibrant too). Kind of curious what the fuzzy texts looks like. Any possible screenshots?

princeasi said:
Either your phone needs to be repaired or you may need to get your eyes checked.
Sent from my Nexus S
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this.
because its not that bad to the point its unreadable.

what some of you call "fuzzy" is the pentile pixel layout of the screen... (half the blue and red pixels compared to a conventional lcd screen)
see here: ars article
I personally think it's crap and can see it very clearly, it's about the only thing I don't like about my nexus one.

isn't there also a battery life issue??
i have a i9023 and my boss has a i9020, and my phone last much longer!

To be fair, certain fonts rendered in a smaller size dont look so great on SAMOLED pentile matrix screen. Like the font that comes with the matted blues theme.

Issue resolved!!!

james6392 said:
Maybe it depends on what people like. Colours on the SAMOLED do look a bit oversaturated and that pleases most people. The black is definitely deeper as well.
However, I maintain that the SLCD is a lot easier on the eyes if you do a lot of reading.
I've taken a few photos of the two phones. Both in 100% brightness. There are some weird colour artefacts which I haven't edited out. The SAMOLED seems to get a green streak whereas SLCD gets a bit of magenta. In actual usage of course, they both look white (with the SLCD being a little bit on the blue side)
BTW, the pictures where taken at exactly the same magnification. Only very minor adjustments were made to bring the phones into focus due to the difference in thickness (yes, half a millimetre does make a difference in macro photography!!).
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man thats too close. is that how you read a text ? lol god help you " kidding "
i do see your point. and yes the Super amoled screen is not as clear in text as LCD. this was known for while. the advantage of the SA is deeper colors while better text reading and sharpness on SLCD.
i think they both look great. just matters of what you like most.

eiabea said:
isn't there also a battery life issue??
i have a i9023 and my boss has a i9020, and my phone last much longer!
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If i am not mistaken, engadget had a review regarding the battery life between the amoled desire vs slcd desire. amoled version lasted like 30-45 mins longer playing same video in loop.

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I didn't know it was the i9023 and just by looking at it they're almost identical, however, the i9023 is a bit thicker and 10 grams heavier.
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When you say a bit thicker... Is there any official specs about I9023? Cause I have been searching by Google about that thickness (already before I saw this thread), but I have found nothing. I am getting my I9023 this week and have been just wondering, cause it has "just" lcd screen, it must be a little thicker...

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Thanks, that cleared. Sure looks a bit more "masculine", than I9020. Will see, when I get it to my hands...

no offense guys, the SCLCD of i9023 is so amazing. I did not realize the big difference until going out to direct sunlight.
Compare to my previous HTC desire HD which is totally hopeless under direct sunlight this is so much better, viewing angles is also a plus point for this. About the SAMOLED, I tried couple times on my friend's galaxy S, still prefer my current SCLCD

james6392 said:
Maybe it depends on what people like. Colours on the SAMOLED do look a bit oversaturated and that pleases most people. The black is definitely deeper as well.
However, I maintain that the SLCD is a lot easier on the eyes if you do a lot of reading.
I've taken a few photos of the two phones. Both in 100% brightness. There are some weird colour artefacts which I haven't edited out. The SAMOLED seems to get a green streak whereas SLCD gets a bit of magenta. In actual usage of course, they both look white (with the SLCD being a little bit on the blue side)
BTW, the pictures where taken at exactly the same magnification. Only very minor adjustments were made to bring the phones into focus due to the difference in thickness (yes, half a millimetre does make a difference in macro photography!!).
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Those pictures are so much alike besides the color is kinda silly. The pixels look exactly the same.
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color issue?

is it just my phone or what here?
I have noticed the saturation of colors on my atrix are just horrible specially green which makes yellow and orange that's why yellow and orange are really off... just me or everyone? if so anyone got an idea on how to tackle this issue?

search is your friend, its not just your phone. Its also not really a problem for a lot of people, myself included, since id take it over supersaturated colors any day.

The Colors on my phone look like the colors on my Touch Pro. What I mean is that they look the way they should.

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The Colors on my phone look like the colors on my Touch Pro. What I mean is that they look the way they should.
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Agreed, mine looks fine to my eyes. Best looking screen I've ever had on a device besides my G73JW.
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I cannot complain. My color look ok to me.

The resolution is amazing I can't lie but the quality and the color are **** compared to my amoled desire.. green is too dark and the quality of the picture is wack too pixelated...

everyone who says it's not important is lying at least a little. the screen is not perfect, period. one needs only to look at a green image or moving red image to see the flaws in the screen design.
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As a color blind person I can say that the greens look fine to me. and thanks for saying I am lying even if only a little.

There have been a couple of colour comparisons, and I believe the concensus has been that the Atrix has more "realistic" colours, while we are more used to other devices having colours that "pop" with over saturation. We have become accustomed to over saturation, and so when we see colours on a screen that more closely match real world colours, we think there is something wrong. I will take the Atrix colours over anything else I have used.
<edit> I have seen one comparison where correct colour calibration techniques were used to compare the Atrix to I believe the iPhone4. I will try to find it again and post a link.

Screen disappointment?? Anyone else?

Hi guys!
First off I wanna say I love my Note!! I have the Korea version as well.
Anyway, I still have my Galaxy S I which I ended the contract to get a Note.
I have to say as far as the "blacks" are concerned, the Galaxy S I wins hands down and also the text/color is sharper and even brighter than the Note.
I tried to take side by side photos but this was the best I could do to show the difference. Both phones are at max. brightness
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/img0005ib.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/31/img0006pq.jpg/
The pics do not do justice. In person there is a real difference. Even the capacitive lights on the bottom are brighter and whiter.
Not a big deal though when my Gaalaxy S isnt being compared to the Note. Just bothers me a bit personally
Thanks!!

Its becoz of the resolution . Galaxy Has 480 x 800 and in Note 1280 x 800, their is a lot of difference in these too models. anyway Supercurio is working on color issues on Note. lets Hope for better result.
Display issue Thread by Supercurio.. here is the link .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430847

After installing Screen Adjuster free from the market ..I just upped the red a fraction [+3] to get rid of the slightest green tinge to my screen.
Then installed Voodoo Screen from the Market and set it to Native Mode... this has fixed 90% of the banding issue on my Note.
Now the screen is beautiful and can hardly fault it.

cybermessiah said:
After installing Screen Adjuster free from the market ..I just upped the red a fraction [+3] to get rid of the slightest green tinge to my screen.
Then installed Voodoo Screen from the Market and set it to Native Mode... this has fixed 90% of the banding issue on my Note.
Now the screen is beautiful and can hardly fault it.
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Was the app called "Voodoo Screen Tuning R/D" ?
I downloaded it from market but get a message saying it doesnt support my model.
I have a Korean Note

What did u turn red upto perhaps a screen shot of your settings if u could pls
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Aaaargh it requires root. Im n00b and dont want to do that i n the first month :/
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You can turn it on and off
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markmessier8888 said:
Hi guys!
First off I wanna say I love my Note!! I have the Korea version as well.
Anyway, I still have my Galaxy S I which I ended the contract to get a Note.
I have to say as far as the "blacks" are concerned, the Galaxy S I wins hands down and also the text/color is sharper and even brighter than the Note.
I tried to take side by side photos but this was the best I could do to show the difference. Both phones are at max. brightness
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/img0005ib.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/31/img0006pq.jpg/
The pics do not do justice. In person there is a real difference. Even the capacitive lights on the bottom are brighter and whiter.
Not a big deal though when my Gaalaxy S isnt being compared to the Note. Just bothers me a bit personally
Thanks!!
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Coming from a galaxy s with a perfect screen i have to agree that the black levels on the note is not as good and yes picture quality on the first generation screen is better even if its just plain pentile and non hd resolution.
People who started with the galaxy note are easily blown away but those who started with the first gen need more to be pleased. I also started a thread about this before and got the same results on the black levels.. im hoping that hd samoled plus can redeem the samoled family.

I think it is an amazing screen!!! I love it, about it being less bright, god I think the note is too bright. I never have it on full brightness unless its really bright sunshine, and in the dark I wish it would go darker, but it won't.
And the black levels!!!(I'm sick of hearing about this in the this forum) some people are so anal about this, I mean I can only just about tell that the screen is on, on a full black screen when I'm in a pitch black room, which I did to test the blacks. So 99% of the time you can't tell, and even in a pitch black room as soon as theres a pixel of light on the screen your eyes adjust and the blacks look black again. Secondly how many of you that are bothered about this, actually sit in the cinema or watch tv or when on the computer, say oh my good the blacks aren't quiet black. I can pretty much guarantee that all the screens in your life aren't LED so why bother so much about it on your phone?

I also love the screen. No disappointment at all!
Would you rather have 480x800!?
This is brand new technology! It pushes the limits of what can be done at consumer price.
And people are complaining!? WTF!
edit: I owned a SGS1, but I like the Note's screen way more. Much sharper.
Although I must say I'm not experiencing the issues I read about on the forum.

DaanJordaan said:
Would you rather have 480x800!?
This is brand new technology! It pushes the limits of what can be done at consumer price.
And people are complaining!? WTF!
Although I must say I'm not experiencing the issues I read about on the forum.
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Are you joking???
I worked a few years in an industrial R&D department and designed new products, but we NEVER would have dared to release a product with such massive quality fluctuations (problems) onto a mass market! Especially when the screen is THE major unique selling argument!
Fine that YOUR screen is fine for YOU, but sorry, your arguments are pure ignorance! You do NOT have this issues, fine, then why judge about their seriousness??

TML1504 said:
Are you joking???
I worked a few years in an industrial R&D department and designed new products, but we NEVER would have dared to release a product with such massive quality fluctuations (problems) onto a mass market! Especially when the screen is THE major unique selling argument!
Fine that YOUR screen is fine for YOU, but sorry, your arguments are pure ignorance! You do NOT have this issues, fine, then why judge about their seriousness??
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Jeez, dont buy a samsung nexus then because that thing is a mess. Signal fluctuates so badly that its kinda funny. Fake screen size (the android buttons are actually on the bottom of the screen, reducing the screen size to the razr. The sound is a joke, the battery useless. Match that with no sd card slot no hdmi and the headphone jack at the bottom of the phone and youve got a 600$ flop.
I bought it for my 12 year old and even he doesnt want it. He wants me to bring it back and get a razr....
BTW, i have a bad s pen and the trademark samsung pink hue in the middle of my camera but asude from that, i love my note. When i saw it in youtube early 2011 i knew it would become my daily phone web surfer.
I wish for the same phone with S amoled PLUS, volume and sleep buttons not across from each ither, no pink in camera, mute button (like iphone) and the sane type of notification light as on the samsung nexus, micro hdmi out and quad core

try the free wallpaper called "no wallpaper" by simplicity apps. The blacks that you see with that wallpaper are amazing and it is free. i often use my phone at night when my child is sleeping, so lights are off and dark and see pitch black screen.
have 2 htc desires at home with amoled screens and the note screen is way better than that. have seen SGS and SGS2 screens and the note is definetely much better than that.
also try the wallpaper (free and paid versions) of KF Flames or KF Flames Donation by kittehface software. the blacks on that are also awesome with equally awesome flame effects. prefer the stock setting than variations possible with paid version but bought paid version just to support developer as liked free version.
the screen on even the sgs2 is no comparison to the one on the note. is your phone stock version or is having different roms affecting the display?

ICS should sort out most issues as its 32bit colour .... (or it could be 24 bit not 100 percent) ,,,
no wallpaper works a treat ... also lowering red to 3
still some apps which are lower density look like they have lines on .. but if you take screen shot they are still there when looking on pc so its the app not the phone
this phone rocks ... never ever going back to the half eaten apple ....

TML1504 said:
Are you joking???
I worked a few years in an industrial R&D department and designed new products, but we NEVER would have dared to release a product with such massive quality fluctuations (problems) onto a mass market! Especially when the screen is THE major unique selling argument!
Fine that YOUR screen is fine for YOU, but sorry, your arguments are pure ignorance! You do NOT have this issues, fine, then why judge about their seriousness??
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Where in my post am I "judging" about "their" seriousness?
If you find the screen their "major unique selling argument", why did you buy it before doing research on the screen?
If you are so worked up about the screen, why don't you get a replacement or trade it for a different phone?
Why do you point your frustration at someone who bought a phone he likes?
Because you bought a phone that you do not like?
Really, if you are so pissed off that you have to enter a forum discussion this angry. You should return the phone.
If you worked in a research and design department you must be a smart guy. You know getting angry won't get us anywhere.

markmessier8888 said:
Hi guys!
First off I wanna say I love my Note!! I have the Korea version as well.
Anyway, I still have my Galaxy S I which I ended the contract to get a Note.
I have to say as far as the "blacks" are concerned, the Galaxy S I wins hands down and also the text/color is sharper and even brighter than the Note.
I tried to take side by side photos but this was the best I could do to show the difference. Both phones are at max. brightness
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/img0005ib.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/31/img0006pq.jpg/
The pics do not do justice. In person there is a real difference. Even the capacitive lights on the bottom are brighter and whiter.
Not a big deal though when my Gaalaxy S isnt being compared to the Note. Just bothers me a bit personally
Thanks!!
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The blacks on my old S2 is way deeper than the one in the Note.
Disappointing for sure.
But i'll take sharper screen over deeper blacks any day.

Well I was the proud owner of two notes this week, first one had a screen which used to tint between pink and green, so I got Amazon to send a replacement, which came today.
Alas this one isn't rendering the blacks properly and makes Black & White photos and videos look awful, pity as I'm a photographer and wanted to show client photos on the note (First note rendered Blacks great, just the white balance kept going off every odd second or so).
So two notes being returned, not taking the risk again.

Shingle said:
Well I was the proud owner of two notes this week, first one had a screen which used to tint between pink and green, so I got Amazon to send a replacement, which came today.
Alas this one isn't rendering the blacks properly and makes Black & White photos and videos look awful, pity as I'm a photographer and wanted to show client photos on the note (First note rendered Blacks great, just the white balance kept going off every odd second or so).
So two notes being returned, not taking the risk again.
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3rd times tge charm! Grab it while its the international version! The home button is brilliant.i dont at&ts stink on it.

cybermessiah said:
After installing Screen Adjuster free from the market ..I just upped the red a fraction [+3] to get rid of the slightest green tinge to my screen.
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I adjusted the red to +1 on my Note, and it's worked perfect
Much clearer now, thanks for that tip - I'd never heard of that app before.

Livewings said:
The blacks on my old S2 is way deeper than the one in the Note.
Disappointing for sure.
But i'll take sharper screen over deeper blacks any day.
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I'm not sure how the black levels are perceivably different from one OLED screen to another, whether it's AMOLED, SAMOLED, SAMOLED Plus, or HD SAMOLED.
I mean, think about it...
All OLED displays are actively lit, which means that each pixel is its own source of light as opposed to being, essentially, active colour filters for a backlight, like on an LCD.
Let's go ahead an use 24-bit colour for the following example:
Basically, each pixel is able to register 256 levels of intensity per colour, which is represented by 8 bits per colour. And since you have three colours (Red, Green, and Blue), that's 8 bits times 3, hence 24-bit.
In the case of an LCD, where each pixel is essentially a filter, blocking or allowing backlight through, a bit value of 0 for any particular colour would mean fully blocking light, and a bit value of 255 would mean fully allowing as much light through as possible.
However, since the backlight in an LCD is always on, regardless of the image, the front panel isn't always able to completely block all the light, even on a completely black image. That's why you're still able to see a little bit of bleed-through, even on the best LCD's.
With any kind of OLED display technology, this is not the case however. On an OLED display, each pixel is essentially a microscopic cluster of light emitting diodes, and since each pixel produces its own light, there is no backlight whatsoever. Thus, on an OLED display, a 255 bit value for a given colour means full intensity, and a bit value of 0 simply means "off."
Q.E.D. on any kind of OLED display, true black is truly black in the same sense that when a light bulb is turned off, it's completely off.
So, if you're perceiving a difference in the black levels between respective OLED devices, it could be simply that you're not viewing a truly black image. The image might contain pixel bit values close to 0, but not actually 0.