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Hey, it just occurred to me that if everyone who CAN donates $20.00 to Haykuro, he will have himself a nice little fund starting up. If you can donate more, do so. This kid deserves our REAL thanks for all of this work. Lets pony up guys.
17 years old and kicking open source ass... he deserves to be rewarded.
EDIT: Find the link to donate on his iphoneproject.com page.
I'll surely give some $$$ if he can quickly fix market issue
by the way, your URL is invalid for paypal.
I donated a while back!
I donated a while back as well. What bugs me is that we have so many other people working on this like Daproy and Korndub and they get no $$$ or recognition for the most part. I say that Haykuro needs to set up a fund and split moneys received between people who contributed to this. None less, he is a genious.
I've had the same concerns as you.
I think Darkrift worked on this as well. Probably when the builds are pretty much complete, someone should put a list of everyone who contributed so we can send them all something as well.
I had some ppl offer donations but I have not worked on this nearly as much as you guys think. What I have done was my way of donating to him since I am poor and cannot do so with paypal. I tried to beta test when I could, write up tuts, answer questions and much the same as everyone else in the thread did. I do not know the extent of the others who are helping so I cannot say the same for them, but I personally have not been working hard enough on this to deserve donations (unless you wanna send me a free G1, I will take that )
If you feel the need to donate to me, send it here https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=4290101
Everyone has been very generous and caring, and I thank you all for that.
This post will give credit where it's due, and let everyone know what's up (clear some confusion).
History of the builds:
1. xmoo and his anonymous source post up a leak of the system folder from a developer magic (or something similar).
2. Everyone on XDA was going crazy, of course, and I tried to explain how to get it to boot properly, and no one listened, so I took it into my own hands to release a functional version.
3. After some talking with barakinflorida, he gave me the idea of implementing aHome into the build that way we had a home screen (at the time, no home screen was available as aCore crashed when you tried opening it).
4. After a week of running it, i noticed a OTA update being pushed (noticed it in logcat) i pulled it and released build 4.
5. I noticed the SPL and posted that, with the proper changes in update-script for the dream. Same thing with the radio.
6. korndub noted that my update-script for the radio was messed up and simply stripped down the update-script (not sure if you guys remember the recovery errors on my radio update, as opposed to korndubs stripped radio update).
5. A week later I got some info from darkrift which led to build 4.5.
6. After some personal tinkering i got google apps from 4.5 ported to build 4, and called it 4.9.
7. 5.0 was then released after daproy noted the camera and audio fix in the master branches of the kernel. he also kindly donated a pre-compiled kernel, saving everyone time from waiting for me to find a linux comp i could compile on.
8. Since then me and daproy have worked together to bring you the next builds. daproy provides me with the kernels, and i do everything else.
I think in the end, the people who would deserve donations would be up to you.
But this is the history of how it all came to be
I would prefer it were told like this (much more heroic):
5.5 Darkrift daringly put the life of his precious G1 on the line to test out various beta builds that haykuro made in a half asleep state. Fending away fire and deadly battery pulls, he made sure everyone who flashes one of those roms would still have a working G1.
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I would prefer it were told like this (much more heroic):
5.5 Darkrift daringly put the life of his precious G1 on the line to test out various beta builds that haykuro made in a half asleep state. Fending away fire and deadly battery pulls, he made sure everyone who flashes one of those roms would still have a working G1.
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lol oh yea, that too.. well, as you said. i was half asleep through most of that
Excuse me for being a NoOb, but here goes....
.... Is it possible to send my girlfriend through paypal? If so where can I find a "how-to"? It is very well deserved.
If she is hot, just send pics :S
Just donated $20 to the man ............. hope others follow and donate.
Keep up the good work man!
I donated a decent amount to hay and never even got a thank you. I will not donate again to him. The least he could have done was sent a thank you...
I'm gonna go ahead and give a big thanks to Haykuro/Darkrift since trying to install a2sd for the first time by following Darkrift's instructions led me to write my original tutorial(how passe that tutorial of mine seems now..), and subsequently my appstosd app, which led to the unionfs method and appstosd2. Of course other people helped along the way(TheDudeofLife, MartinFick, JF) but it was really Haykuro and Darkrift that got me going.
In short: you can partially thank both of them for having unionfs(somewhat ironic considering it was Haykuro's ROMs that never implemented it (j/k man, I think I had enough trouble trying to debug my script with TheDude's ROM))
EDIT: Upon rereading I realized that this could be taken as somewhat backhanded. I didn't mean that Darkrifts instructions were so bad I had to write my own. He intentionally(I now fully understand why) left out some parts of the process and I thought I'd take up the torch and try to have the whole thing in a way I saw as a little bit safer(or at least less scary).
[email protected] said:
I'm gonna go ahead and give a big thanks to Haykuro/Darkrift since trying to install a2sd for the first time by following Darkrift's instructions led me to write my original tutorial(how passe that tutorial of mine seems now..), and subsequently my appstosd app, which led to the unionfs method and appstosd2. Of course other people helped along the way(TheDudeofLife, MartinFick, JF) but it was really Haykuro and Darkrift that got me going.
In short: you can partially thank both of them for having unionfs(somewhat ironic considering it was Haykuro's ROMs that never implemented it (j/k man, I think I had enough trouble trying to debug my script with TheDude's ROM))
EDIT: Upon rereading I realized that this could be taken as somewhat backhanded. I didn't mean that Darkrifts instructions were so bad I had to write my own. He intentionally(I now fully understand why) left out some parts of the process and I thought I'd take up the torch and try to have the whole thing in a way I saw as a little bit safer(or at least less scary).
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I only started this thread because I know that this kid is 17 and still working on getting his HS diploma, also holding down a job AND working on these roms. Even after he was burned by someone on the forums, he came back when it was ready and gave us Hero (with a NEW Rosie smell)... He continues to put out roms for us and now the canucks with the Rogers rom. I also just saw that there's a Hero rom he just put out for those running Magic/Sapphire devices. The kid continues to work hard on this stuff and I think he deserves to be rewarded. No matter who was helping him get stuff to make the builds lets remember WHO brought the first cupcake to the masses... Now he's brought us a GOOD (not great yet, but it'll get there) version of a rom that we aren't even supposed to have ACCESS to!!! I, for one, think that this guy should get together with JF and Dude and whoever else and start a consortium and start getting paid to develop for Android. This is the OS of the future (for now) and there is some serious need for dedicated programmers who can make it all work... I think he is more on top of it than anyone out there...
That's what made me post this... I have donated a couple of times to the kid, and I'm not done. It's not to pay him for his product, but to thank him for working his butt off on something that he doesn't have to and then giving it away to the masses (again, he doesn't have to)....
So again, Thanks Haykuro and I hope your situation changes soon... Keep up the coding man....
ChicoJD
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I only started this thread because I know that this kid is 17 and still working on getting his HS diploma, also holding down a job AND working on these roms. Even after he was burned by someone on the forums, he came back when it was ready and gave us Hero (with a NEW Rosie smell)... He continues to put out roms for us and now the canucks with the Rogers rom. I also just saw that there's a Hero rom he just put out for those running Magic/Sapphire devices. The kid continues to work hard on this stuff and I think he deserves to be rewarded. No matter who was helping him get stuff to make the builds lets remember WHO brought the first cupcake to the masses... Now he's brought us a GOOD (not great yet, but it'll get there) version of a rom that we aren't even supposed to have ACCESS to!!! I, for one, think that this guy should get together with JF and Dude and whoever else and start a consortium and start getting paid to develop for Android. This is the OS of the future (for now) and there is some serious need for dedicated programmers who can make it all work... I think he is more on top of it than anyone out there...
That's what made me post this... I have donated a couple of times to the kid, and I'm not done. It's not to pay him for his product, but to thank him for working his butt off on something that he doesn't have to and then giving it away to the masses (again, he doesn't have to)....
So again, Thanks Haykuro and I hope your situation changes soon... Keep up the coding man....
ChicoJD
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? Was this responding to mine? I was honestly thanking Haykuro as well... (maybe I'm misunderstanding something?)
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? Was this responding to mine? I was honestly thanking Haykuro as well... (maybe I'm misunderstanding something?)
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No necessarily... I was actually just trying to explain why I singled him out for donations. I don't know him personally, have never seen the kids face... All I know is that he's been dedicated to making the device better, and sharing it with all of us, all the while going to school and work, dealing with everything that comes with being 17! I noticed some posts that mentioned all who helped him, and that's fine. This is about helping a kid who really needs the help. Who knows, Steve may be the next Gates or Jobs!!!
lock close delete, this is going to end up being one of those fanboy threads that get ugly.
koxx said:
I'll surely give some $$$ if he can quickly fix market issue
by the way, your URL is invalid for paypal.
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that's a permission issue most likely, run the "auto lucid" .bat program on these forums and it can restore the permision to apps2sd folders
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lock close delete, this is going to end up being one of those fanboy threads that get ugly.
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Only if someone tries to make it ugly! And for the record, I'm no-one's fanboy. Let's look at it this way... In a community, those who have the means help those who need and deserve the help. Haykuro is in the latter group and a lot of us are in the former group. Would you have a thread closed based on the fact that you don't agree with the material? Does that sound like the way things are done on this board? If it is, I'm out!
EDIT: Mods, if you feel there's a better category than Dev for this thread, please feel free to move it...
a wiki for installing CM is available to he Vibrant:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Full_Update_Guide_-_Samsung_Galaxy_S_(Vibrant)
NOTE: As of right now CyanogenMod is not available for the Samsung Vibrant.
It is not available right not and it won't be for a while. They are working on a port, but don't even think about asking when.
So when is the eta on cm6 for the vibrant?
Last night...
Me: http://twitter.com/MINUS_Stl/status/19620906791
Reply: http://twitter.com/wesgarner/status/19621176577
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http://twitter.com/wesgarner/status/19621474600
That last comment shows me that wes doesnt want to work on the galaxy, but has to since people donated to him.
Eh, I understand his 'laziness'. The man works full-time.....in retail.
Moved to General forum. The development forum is only for development threads. (Threads with actual development happening.)
Questions should always be in the General forums (or Q&A if your device has a Q&A forum.)
And to the comment of wes not wanting to work on it, speaking as a developer, wes works full time and probably also has a life. He may have a girlfriend or a wife. He also had already promised a Slide CM6 release. Give him time to finish the Slide port and move on to the galaxy port. He can't spend his every waking moment coding stuff. Granted, he did take the donations required to get the phone, so he can't just ignore it, but I don't think he's ignoring it, either. Be patient.
I don't think Wes has a girlfriend
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I don't think Wes has a girlfriend
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Well i think it doesn't matter if he has a girlfriend or not, that's something personal... he may have a life.
Patience is a virtue guys, relax, enjoy your phone and things will come in not so long.
I meant he has no enthusiasm for this phone, hes only working on it because he has to.
"because he has to."
Is someone holding a gun to his head?
Well, as a Day 1 G1 owner, I would give him the benefit of the doubt on this one. He has done some amazing stuff for the community. Honestly, he can't port to all phones. If he tries too many, it could get bad.
I never mentioned a gun or that he cant do great things. He likes the slide better than the Vibrant. He will without a doubt spend more time with it than the vibrant, because he wants to use it. Im willing to bet a large chunk of the phone cost came from donations based on peoples hope for cm6, which is why he "has to".
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Eh, I understand his 'laziness'. The man works full-time.....in retail.
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I sympathize with him. I work in retail too, and it can be extremely draining with very little job satisfaction.
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I meant he has no enthusiasm for this phone, hes only working on it because he has to.
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I doubt that. I've been following CyanogenMod development for a while, and he straight-up volunteered to get a Vibrant (especially when the donations started coming in) and work on a CM port.
Check http://github.com/wesgarner
He has been doing quite a bit of work on it!
Please stop speculating....
I have been following the CyanogenMod team for awhile! Wes isn't porting the CM over to the Vibrant/Captivate because of donations!!! He volunteered to work on it - FIRST! THEN, he got donations!
Wes committed himself to the Slide community to getting a working Slide CM6 port. So, it is only natural that he follow through on that commitment first! That shows honesty and integrity.
Give him time to work on that port and get it finished. THEN he will start serious work on the Vibrant/Captivate! Time may equal months - not weeks!
He also has a life outside of Android modifications. Many people here seem to think that these ports are easy - THEY ARE NOT! there are hundreds of tiny, tedious, meticulous details that have to be taken care of. Most of the time the kernel, the drivers, and the ROM ALL have to be tweaked to get everything working properly and they all have to work together.
If they don't - some snot nosed, unappreciative Noob will get on the forums and complain about how the dev should have had everything fixed before releasing the ROM!
Oh, and when the ROM IS RELEASED - please file the appropriate bug reports on the CM repository AFTER you check that your bug hasn't already been reported.
So, be patient and understanding - AND, CYANOGENMOD/TEAMDOUCHE RULE #1 - DON'T ASK HOW LONG TILL THE RELEASE!! LOL!!!
something inside telling me that we will not see good/stable cm6 on Vibrant this year I am more worried about official Froyo....then by the time 3.0 comes, I hope Galaxy line will have enough devs to cook a ROM in a month
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Well, as a Day 1 G1 owner, I would give him the benefit of the doubt on this one. He has done some amazing stuff for the community. Honestly, he can't port to all phones. If he tries too many, it could get bad.
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Please stop speculating....
I have been following the CyanogenMod team for awhile! Wes isn't porting the CM over to the Vibrant/Captivate because of donations!!! He volunteered to work on it - FIRST! THEN, he got donations!
Wes committed himself to the Slide community to getting a working Slide CM6 port. So, it is only natural that he follow through on that commitment first! That shows honesty and integrity.
Give him time to work on that port and get it finished. THEN he will start serious work on the Vibrant/Captivate! Time may equal months - not weeks!
He also has a life outside of Android modifications. Many people here seem to think that these ports are easy - THEY ARE NOT! there are hundreds of tiny, tedious, meticulous details that have to be taken care of. Most of the time the kernel, the drivers, and the ROM ALL have to be tweaked to get everything working properly and they all have to work together.
If they don't - some snot nosed, unappreciative Noob will get on the forums and complain about how the dev should have had everything fixed before releasing the ROM!
Oh, and when the ROM IS RELEASED - please file the appropriate bug reports on the CM repository AFTER you check that your bug hasn't already been reported.
So, be patient and understanding - AND, CYANOGENMOD/TEAMDOUCHE RULE #1 - DON'T ASK HOW LONG TILL THE RELEASE!! LOL!!!
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^^^This
Wes did an amazing job with OpenEclair and will do a great job with the Slide and Vibrant as well.
some of you should read this thread back over... Vibrant community is starting to sound like the post haykuro(whatever his name was) G1 community. If you havent donated $ then shut up and wait. Cant wait? Scared CM6 wont come to the vibrant? Im sure you can sell it or trade someone for it. Just stop with the immature BS and gossip. Ggggeeeeezzzzzz!
Catchin' the VIBE on the XDApp
Due to recent developments, I've updated the information in the OP;
The actual exploid.c exploit was created for the Droid 2 by Sebastian Krahmer at http://c-skills.blogspot.com/. You can donate to him via Paypal to [email protected]
The phenomenal Dan Wager got it nand unlocked on 2.2 and reflashed to 2.1 and got everything working right for the Evo. You may know him as the phenomenal regaw_leinad - he put the guide together, and he's been updating it and helping people root like a madman ever since (does this guy ever sleep?). You can donate to him here. Note: he did all of this, and he doesn't even have an EVO! Wouldn't it be great if he got enough donations to get one of his very own?
Unrevoked worked on some of the early work involved, and it's their method that is used in the root process. They don't accept donations, and instead ask that people make a donation to the EFF, the organization that was behind the recent ruling so that it is now 100% legal to root your phone. You can make a donation to them here.
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Don't let anyone tell you who to donate to. Choose yourself, you'll feel better.
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To all of those that hopped on the bounty for root 2.2 bandwagon - I'm calling you out!
To the best of my knowledge, the dev who uncovered the exploit (Sebastian Krahmer) isn't a memeber here, and the unrevoked team (who worked the exploit into full root) doesn't accept donations, and suggests you doanate to the EFF instead.
You can find out about the EFF and the important work they do for all of us here;
http://www.eff.org/about
And their donation link is here;
https://secure.eff.org/site/SPageServer?pagename=DON_splash
So I'm sure each and every person who said they would donate to whoever found root already put their donation through to the EFF, or will in the near future, right?
Right?
I really and truly and sincerely think we should come together and hook Regaw up with an EVO.
I know the root effort was spread between several individuals but I've known Dan for a while now and he not only Rooted the 2.1 OTA for the Hero he also put a lot of time and effort into making 2.2 OTA EVO root a reality.
AND he/we (I was his sidekick ) made one of the best roms for the Hero, RegawMODv2.1
RegawMODv2.1 is like 6 months old now and STILL spends most of its time on page one in the Hero dev section. It's a bare bones, stripped down, tastefully themed Sense rom. I think the EVO community would benefit greatly from Regaw joining us here.
He's a great dude and even though I'm already rooted I will be tossing a few his way to help him join the gang
(sorry fachadick, don't mean to hijack. I agree with your point and just wanted to suggest where I think some of the "Root the 2.2OTA" pledges should go)
Done, and done. While I respect the EFF and appreciate their efforts, I chose to contribute to the Regaw EVO Fund. I know there were others involved but he was the one that actually delivered the guide, so he gets the loot.
This is the first 'bounty' thread I've ever even opened, but had I been a part of it I'd be giving to Regaw.
And this is why I don't like pledge threads because most of the time 90% of the people who pledge are nowhere to be found once the objectives have been reached. People will make excuses like "that's not what I wanted", "its too complicated", or "I can't get it to work". The only time I ever made a pledge was when we were trying to get darch an evo and followed through. even though darch never got an evo, his donations were long overdue and deserved it. Even though I wasn't stupid enough to run the ota for the evo, I'm going donate to regaw because the guy deserves it. Hopefully all the people who jumped on the bandwagon and made a pledge will follow through.
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This is the first 'bounty' thread I've ever even opened, but had I been a part of it I'd be giving to Regaw.
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It's not too late, you are still more than welcome to help him out
CLICK HERE TO HELP Regaw GET AN EVO
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Done, and done. While I respect the EFF and appreciate their efforts, I chose to contribute to the Regaw EVO Fund. I know there were others involved but he was the one that actually delivered the guide, so he gets the loot.
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Thank you for proving why all of those bounty threads were BS, and don't belong on XDA.
I have absolutly nothing against Regaw, I've used his guides before, seen how helpful he is in answering any question that comes his way, and think without a doubt he deserves an EVO of his own - I would love to see what he could do with it. I think the community coming together to get him one is a great idea.
But in the lead-up to root, all of these folks were saying that they would pay who found root. In this case, that would be unrevoked, and they say on thier site to send all donations to the EFF. If someone comes out with a simpler guide, also using the unrevoked method, do they get a donation also?
If I've minimized Regaw's involvement in finding root, as opposed to just putting up the first guide for it, I humbly apologize. And again, I love and appreciate how dedicated Regaw is to XDA, and think that there should be a donation fund for him to get an evo (nice one, Neb!). But this is all about the "bounty" for those who developed root, why not donate to both?
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And this is why I don't like pledge threads because most of the time 90% of the people who pledge are nowhere to be found once the objectives have been reached. People will make excuses like "that's not what I wanted", "its too complicated", or "I can't get it to work".
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Hopefully all the people who jumped on the bandwagon and made a pledge will follow through.
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this.
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The old saying "put your money where your mouth is" comes to mind. IIRC, Regaw and the other devs should easily be getting enough donations to buy an Evo for each of them.
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The only time I ever made a pledge was when we were trying to get darch an evo and followed through. even though darch never got an evo, his donations were long overdue and deserved it.
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I was just going to post something about how buying a person a phone creates unreasonable expectations on both sides. Kind of funny how the example I was going to use ended up being a failure anyways.
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The old saying "put your money where your mouth is" comes to mind. IIRC, Regaw and the other devs should easily be getting enough donations to buy an Evo for each of them.
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I've known Regaw since last year, we've worked on a lot of stuff together and I can tell you in the last 6 months the guy hasn't received anywhere near enough donations to buy an evo, even if he were up for an upgrade
Definitely not bragging or anything, I remember when I wouldn't have had an extra dollar to donate to anyone (I wouldn't have had an EVO in that case anyways) but I've donated a little over $100 to various devs over the last 8 months or so, and I have zero stolen apps on my phone.. My point is I believe in donating to people who volunteer their time to make my Android experience better.
I would image many more than 100 people will refer to Regaw's guide to root their EVO's. If those 100 folks each donated ONLY $5 we'd have another FANTASTIC dev here with us!
fachadick, I'm sure Dan would take no offense to your comments about him posting the guide but let me offer this: Unrevoked found the root but Dan worked with Matt to help find it and get it ready for the masses.
Also, Dan himself found the exploit for 2.1 on the Hero (I know, not relevant to us, just another example of his talent and dedication.)
IMO, If someone releases a simple-root app or a simplified guide then sure, they deserve whatever people are willing to donate to them too.
I'm not suggesting anyone NOT donate to the EFF, great idea too. Personally, I'd just like to see Regaw get the hook up first..
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I was just going to post something about how buying a person a phone creates unreasonable expectations on both sides. Kind of funny how the example I was going to use ended up being a failure anyways.
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I do agree with you. I approached darch before I made that thread for him. We didn't talk much after that and I always wondered if he soured on the idea because he didn't want to feel obligated because of it.
Don't really know what else to say other than Dan is chomping at the bit to start devving for the EVO, I think he'll end up exceeding peoples expectations just because that's how he is.
Also, the link in my sig goes directly to Dan's donation account, so I wont be keeping a roster or list of donations or anything, just hopefully compelling people to help him out.
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Thank you for proving why all of those bounty threads were BS, and don't belong on XDA.
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Not sure why you're offended by my decision to follow through with my promised donation. I gave the money to the individual who directly helped me, rather than an organization with whom I've never had personal contact.
If it was a case of merely providing "an simpler guide," I guess you'd have a point, however thin it may be. But didn't regaw have a hand in actually developing the root method? Please correct me if I'm wrong, (it certainly wouldn't be the first time). That being the case, I feel more than justified in donating as a show of appreciation.
My funds are limited, so sorry, I can't be throwing cash at everyone involved. I had to choose (as I stated before) the one who delivered on the goods. Don't worry though, it won't happen again.
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Not sure why you're offended by my decision to follow through with my promised donation. I gave the money to the individual who directly helped me, rather than an organization with whom I've never had personal contact.
If it was a case of merely providing "an simpler guide," I guess you'd have a point, however thin it may be. But didn't regaw have a hand in actually developing the root method? Please correct me if I'm wrong, (it certainly wouldn't be the first time). That being the case, I feel more than justified in donating as a show of appreciation.
My funds are limited, so sorry, I can't be throwing cash at everyone involved. I had to choose (as I stated before) the one who delivered on the goods. Don't worry though, it won't happen again.
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Sorry, I wasn't offended by your specific post, it just happened to be the first one, so I jumped on it. I applaud your donation to Regaw, and again, beleive that Regaw deserves every dollar he gets, and hope that he'll be able to help out on the EVO side of things like he did for the Hero (i'm going to try and throw him a few bucks later myself)
The point I was trying to make was that the bounties weren't "for the individual that helped me directly", they were for who cracked root. In this case it the exploit was found by someone not invloved with XDA, and the root method was developed by unrevoked as a team. Unrevoked, as a team, discourages personal donations (as per their website) and asks people to donate to EFF instead.
If someone helps you directly, by all means, shoot them a donation. They deserve it. All I'm saying is that the bounty threads have to go - if a bounty says that the donations will be going to X, and people commit, they should be donating to X (or who X says should get the donation).
Hope you didn't take any of that personally...
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I've known Regaw since last year, we've worked on a lot of stuff together and I can tell you in the last 6 months the guy hasn't received anywhere near enough donations to buy an evo, even if he were up for an upgrade
Definitely not bragging or anything, I remember when I wouldn't have had an extra dollar to donate to anyone (I wouldn't have had an EVO in that case anyways) but I've donated a little over $100 to various devs over the last 8 months or so, and I have zero stolen apps on my phone.. My point is I believe in donating to people who volunteer their time to make my Android experience better.
I would image many more than 100 people will refer to Regaw's guide to root their EVO's. If those 100 folks each donated ONLY $5 we'd have another FANTASTIC dev here with us!
fachadick, I'm sure Dan would take no offense to your comments about him posting the guide but let me offer this: Unrevoked found the root but Dan worked with Matt to help find it and get it ready for the masses.
Also, Dan himself found the exploit for 2.1 on the Hero (I know, not relevant to us, just another example of his talent and dedication.)
IMO, If someone releases a simple-root app or a simplified guide then sure, they deserve whatever people are willing to donate to them too.
I'm not suggesting anyone NOT donate to the EFF, great idea too. Personally, I'd just like to see Regaw get the hook up first..
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I agree with everything you said here 100% (although I've got a soft spot for the EFF - it's my experience that most people don't even know who they are or what they do).
I think donate links are a great way for the community to give back a little to those who they feel deserve it, and Regaw is at the top of that list (along with with the guy who simplifies the root process, the creator of that great theme you're rocking, the dev who'se killer kernel gives you 4 days battery, or whose rom makes using an android device that much more enjoyable for you). I just have problems with all of the bounty threads that seemed to have cropped up in the last few weeks.
edit - just reread your post, not sure if you were implying that I pulled out donating to EFF out of the blue - it wasn't my idea, they're the ones that the Unrevoked team says should get donations instead of them.
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Thank you for proving why all of those bounty threads were BS, and don't belong on XDA.
I have absolutly nothing against Regaw, I've used his guides before, seen how helpful he is in answering any question that comes his way, and think without a doubt he deserves an EVO of his own - I would love to see what he could do with it. I think the community coming together to get him one is a great idea.
But in the lead-up to root, all of these folks were saying that they would pay who found root. In this case, that would be unrevoked, and they say on thier site to send all donations to the EFF. If someone comes out with a simpler guide, also using the unrevoked method, do they get a donation also?
If I've minimized Regaw's involvement in finding root, as opposed to just putting up the first guide for it, I humbly apologize. And again, I love and appreciate how dedicated Regaw is to XDA, and think that there should be a donation fund for him to get an evo (nice one, Neb!). But this is all about the "bounty" for those who developed root, why not donate to both?
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really to me it seems like unrevoked has little to do with it. the dude who found the exploit that lets you revert back to 2.1 deserves all the credit for this. all the various unrevoked versions used were already being used to their capabilities that were already know
also just because they who found it isnt a member here why should he get the money?
nicholaaaas said:
really to me it seems like unrevoked has little to do with it. the dude who found the exploit that lets you revert back to 2.1 deserves all the credit for this. all the various unrevoked versions used were already being used to their capabilities that were already know
also just because they who found it isnt a member here why should he get the money?
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This is also true, but since we're unable to donate to the person who directly found the exploit, the next step down would be the team was able to use this exploit and be the first one out to develop a root method with it. As I understand it, without this new exploit, unrevoked wouldn't have been able to add the new radios for the Evo to unrevoked, and unrevoked versions prior to 1.1 wouldn't have worked.
Which came first... The egg or the chicken? Once you all find an answer to that question, then you all will know who to send the damn "bounty" to.
HondaCop said:
Which came first... The egg or the chicken? Once you all find an answer to that question, then you all will know who to send the damn "bounty" to.
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right - but folks aren't donating to either the egg (Sebastian Krahmer) or the chicken (EFF, by way of unrevoked).
Yeah - I'm probably over reacting again, but dammit, those bounty threads pissed me off.
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but dammit, those bounty threads pissed me off.
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I know bro. I've been opposed to them since they first started popping up around here. I'm ALL for donations and paying for hire.. I just can't stand this "bounty" crap.
I have been SCOURING the web for possible Motorola Bravo ROMs to no avail. I've read everything from the Bravo not possessing the correct files/firmware to the Bravo not having the lack of restriction needed. Point blank, I'm willing to put my phone up for experimental development to jump start this process for the world of Bravo users. I'm an employee of AT&T and I'm tired of the way we kill the freedom of this phone. It's time for the barriers to come down, point blank. Please, developers, feel free to contact me through this post if you are interested. I've heard about making dumb-files for the phone (I'm a moderate noob, to say the least). Therefore, I'm willing, with correct instruction, to create one of these system files to help out or whatever else may be needed.
Thanks
I just got a Bravo and love this guy! I prefer it over my Captivate and Aria. I'm all for some customization to come to this VERY underrated device.
same here. nothing has really been done with this phone. at least we could get 2.2? if nothing else
Hmm
http://community.developer.motorola...RAVO-development-resources-available/m-p/8304
BravoMotorola said:
http://community.developer.motorola...RAVO-development-resources-available/m-p/8304
Development recourses officially available for the Motorola Bravo!
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What does this mean for us Bravo owners, exactly? Thanks.
What it means?
Just makes it easier I think...if you a Motodev member! So, really nothing.
check out my new thread in this forum, i am porting bootstrap used on d2/dx/dpro to the bravo to get clockworkmod running and then we can get some roms!
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I think I have some sort of structure now. It's insanely buggy. It fails ALMOST immediately. At least it sort of tries to boot WP7... sort of. I still have quite a bit of research and trial and error still to come, but I believe I'm on to something where before I really felt like I was stabbing in the dark. Trap the errors, trap the errors, trap the errors and debuuuuuuuug.
I think I might be going insane haha.......I look forward to the day that I have something worth posting......so shut down....naysayers. We're still a ways from that day still unfortunately.
[.....]My apprearances may be scarce for the next 4 days.......I'll be back for certain.
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Opening up a Nexus One thread.
wow holy revers kirfing batman they beat us to it
KIRF=keeping it real fake lol
apocali3
So yeah This is the thread for the Project 7 Evo(Temp. name.) we are currently calling this a Project. We must be patient. This will take several months to complete.
so vote on the Poll what you are wanting to run on your EVO
vote this thread also to be on the front page.
Windows Phone 7 on the HTC EVO 4G, imagine the possibilities
Development so far
Myn(developer)
miphonematt (developer)
Lui22(tester[if the team agrees on it])
PEOPLE WHOM MIGHT BE A GREAT CONTRIBUTOR
Echoside(maybe)
.....
The list will grow
the bounty is
jlechner said:
Is anyone keeping a list of the "b" word? If so, put me down for $100 as well.
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aimbdd said:
yeah. for everyone in this thread we are at about 275
535 including both threads.
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Thank you aimbdd for keeping count!!!!
miphonematt said:
I'd also like to level set with all the folks that are anxious to get WP7 on their EVO. I guarantee you that this is at least 60 days out until it is safe enough for anyone other than the dev(s) to test/flash.
We should add the word "Project" to the Subject of this thread. We should also add the rule "Do Not Ask for an ETA" in Bold, All Caps, bright red text. That is by far one of The Most irritating things to a dev, and I've known it to cause devs to not post progress updates. That is the number 1 rule of etiquette for projects like this. I hope everyone in this thread can understand and respect that.
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these changes have been applied for the greater good
overground; said:
Originally Posted by overground
We allow these, but do not heavily moderate them. If things turn sour, most we're going to do is close the thread. I recently closed and subsequently reopened one of these....kinda the same policy as the MP...hands off / donator beware.
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Overground is also a Sr. Mod. Please do NOT report a bounty thread unless there are flames or someone has been scammed. Other than that, we'll keep a close eye on it.
Nuff said. The moderators.
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Dear Devs,
We thank you for your service. We thank you for all the new roms that make our devices unique. We thank you for the apps that you built for us, that make our phones ours not the companies. Because of you we can express our individuality.
With that being said, we ask one more thing from you. We ask you to take our devices to the next level. We ask you to push the borders once again. Let us all come together and create a TRULY COMMUNITY BUILT PORT of WP7 for our devices. A difficult feat none the less, but we can do it, TOGETHER.
Personally I think we can build this project to rival Cyanogen mod, rival not in our perice of software is better then yours but in that the amount of community members and, contributions of sofware, are friendyer and more together. Rivals and friends at the same time.
This is an open bounty for any team of developers that can get a working port of WP7 that boots and can at least have Wi-Fi working.
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Reserved for Rules
1. No negative remarks
2. Our Purpose here is to help eachother so lets do that.
3. No Gloating.
4. No saying negative remarks about other devs, or community members.
5. Pressing the "Thanks" button every time someone finds something is greatly encouraged.
6. STAY ON TOPIC!!!!
7. Only dev teams can mention anything about license.
8. DO NOT ASK FOR ETA's remember this is a project no guarentee of complete succes....., as of yet
9. Just because you can post does not mean you should do it. Post things that are of some worth to the project
it's great to see wp7 working on evo
im in to help since i know a little windows
ill be talking to people about how this needs to pan out while out to sea this week and will update this post as things come in.
thanks guys tell as many people as you can and vote for this thread!!
I PM'd an HD2 developer about what we need to make this work. I don't know what half of this stuff is.
Original Message:
Hi
First of all you will need a "magldr" for your device.
without being able to flash it it's not possible at all.
i guess you need to talk to cotulla about this.
You also need proper drivers for the hardware (this will be a problem i guess)..
i wish you good luck.
Xda-Member: hd2owner
**still ready to beta test
Hopefully this thread actually gets off the ground. I would absolutely LOVE for this to eventually be a reality.
The HTC Evo does not have a Windows Mobile license...
License?
Oh, that... it's for purely educational purposes LOL
We don't want to really run wp7... just see if it will!
Tapatalked from my SUpersonic...
I am sure Microsoft would hate if more people used windows phone 7 and purchased from their market... N2m several people pointed out in the last thread that hd2 isnt liscensed for wp7 either. Anyways I am good for 25 with working netflix :-D
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The HTC Evo does not have a Windows Mobile license...
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hd2 doesnt have a wp7 license either.
hopefully someone will pick this up i would try out wp7.
This is going to die real fast,lol, and i dont think it should be ported even if it could, if you wanted this you should have bought a WP7 instead of evo.
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This is going to die real fast,lol, and i dont think it should be ported even if it could, if you wanted this you should have bought a WP7 instead of evo.
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That's one of the most idiotic statements I've ever read. Most of us bought Evos over 7 months ago, before WP7 was even released. Now we want to be able to run WP7, just like the HD2 users can.
And I think it's ridiculous if this thread, or this whole movement is shut down by the mods. Neither the HD2 nor the Evo have Windows Phone 7 licenses. If they can do it, so can we.
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That's one of the most idiotic statements I've ever heard. Most of us bought Evos over 7 months ago, before WP7 was even released. Now we want to be able to run WP7, just like the HD2 users can.
And I think it's ridiculous if this thread, or this whole movement is shut down by the mods. Neither the HD2 nor the Evo have Windows Phone 7 licenses. If they can do it, so can we.
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umm...at&t is always open to new customers...or amazon is preordering the htc arriveWP7 on sprint) for 50 bucks.
Stay on topic. Don't even respond to negative people or it'll just get deleted again.
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umm...at&t is always open to new customers...or amazon is preordering the htc arriveWP7 on sprint) for 50 bucks.
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umm that deal is for new customers if someone has an evo im guessing they have a contract with sprint already...anymore arguments?
jersey221 said:
umm that deal is for new customers if someone has an evo im guessing they have a contract with sprint already...anymore arguments?
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let me think...well theres always digging into you bank acc and ending you contract early then going to at&t
http://forum.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?p=744808#post744808
i will not host the project on this site. we do need a dev, the thread is now located here.
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let me think...well theres always digging into you bank acc and ending you contract early then going to at&t
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by that post you pretty much just said you have no other valid arguments...