typing through a waterproof camera case? - HD2 General

Is it possible to type with a capacitive display also through a waterproof camera case (it's like a clear slim plastic bag; it means no direct contact with skin); I use this for hiking/biking as a rain protection for the device.

JLowe said:
Is it possible to type with a capacitive display also through a waterproof camera case (it's like a clear slim plastic bag; it means no direct contact with skin); I use this for hiking/biking as a rain protection for the device.
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I'm afraid not mate. As far as I'm aware, capacitive screens require the small electric charge that we naturally give off, and the plastic cover will stop conductivity.
If that's a deciding factor for you getting this phone, I wouldn't recommend it. Maybe see if there's anything around that does the same job, and works for capacitive screens. I don't think it's impossible, as you can get screen protectors that work (as seen on iPhones and soon on my HD2).

JLowe said:
Is it possible to type with a capacitive display also through a waterproof camera case (it's like a clear slim plastic bag; it means no direct contact with skin); I use this for hiking/biking as a rain protection for the device.
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Don't have HD2 at the moment but do have an Iphone. I modified a transparent pencil case which I use on motor bike and bicycle - no problem at all typing on the Iphone capacitive screen.

custardo01 said:
I modified a transparent pencil case which I use on motor bike and bicycle - no problem at all typing on the Iphone capacitive screen.
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Yeah, go ahead and ignore me then - I obviously don't know what I'm talking about lol.
Thought I did!

johncmolyneux said:
Yeah, go ahead and ignore me then - I obviously don't know what I'm talking about lol.
Thought I did!
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You're not as wrong as you think.
It's true that capacitive screens work by measuring a distortion of a localised electrical field, caused by the small electrical current given off by human skin but it doesn't mean that the screens cannot be covered at all - there are plenty of screen protectors on the market that work just fine with capacitive screens.
But if there's too big an obstruction, it will interfere with the usage of the handset, such as wearing gloves etc.

Mine seems to work ok in this one - the Ortlieb GPS case.
http://ortlieb.com/index_white.php?lang=en&m1=0&m2=0&file=p-search.php
Cheers David

davwil said:
Mine seems to work ok in this one - the Ortlieb GPS case.
http://ortlieb.com/index_white.php?lang=en&m1=0&m2=0&file=p-search.php
Cheers David
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Thank you for your information. Great that it works!

got a waterproof beach-case for electronic devices for storage, can try with that later today

I use a Run.gps armband with my HD2.
Screen works fine !
I use it for cycling to work everyday
it was designed HD/Iphone sized devices, so the HD2 is a bit tighter fit, and the headphone hole is in the wrong place in the neoprene (but that was easily fixed )
http://www.rungps.net/wiki/NeopreneArmbandABX2EN

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Recommended Prophet cases?

Which case for the Prophet would you recommend?
My main criteria are:
- Screen protection
- As slim as possible
- Leather (desired)
- Cheap :wink:
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the slimest there is... you can't use the touchscreen unfortunatly (or am I wrong maybe?)
anyway I havn't seen a leather case that wouldn't make a brick out of a prophet. I find it strange - you can quite comfortably put a prophet in your pocket, wich makes it very portable, but you can't have a case that doesn't spoil it.
You might find the following case suitable. I believe it adds the least volume to the unit given that it is conformal and very thin. (There might be something better, but I'm not aware of it.)
http://www.ebcases.com/Detail.bok?no=3331
There is also the possibility to customize the case as well for a fee. Thus one can ask the supplier to minimize thickness rather than providing the maximal protection to the unit.
After much pondering I came to the conclusion that having no case was best. It keeps the prophets small foot print and is still very useable. Invest in a good screen protector though.
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After much pondering I came to the conclusion that having no case was best. It keeps the prophets small foot print and is still very useable. Invest in a good screen protector though.
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I felt exactly the same until I accidentally dropped mine about 2 1/2 feet onto a tile floor and it dented/scratched the top corner of the device. Not extreme, but it was only a light tap on the ground.
I immediately went out and bought a gel skin made for the Prophet. Adds nothing to the weight/size/form-factor of the device.
I saw one that had a flip down plastic screen protector as well, but figured that was a little overkill.
Of course, these are in cell phone shops all over Asia, don't know about other countries.
I've found many people on the street using these skins instead of cases just because of the form-factor element. It's a shame to ruin such portability and, dare I say, elegance, to protect it.
But even now I feel like one of those guys that leaves his television remote control in the cellophane wrap so that it won't get any wear and tear... it was made to be used!
vsc said:
You might find the following case suitable. I believe it adds the least volume to the unit given that it is conformal and very thin. (There might be something better, but I'm not aware of it.)
http://www.ebcases.com/Detail.bok?no=3331
There is also the possibility to customize the case as well for a fee. Thus one can ask the supplier to minimize thickness rather than providing the maximal protection to the unit.
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Hi vsc, that is a great case - the best I have seen so far! Thanks for the link.
I see that this case is for the Jam though - are the Jam and Jamin 100% identical (the form is identical (I believe) but not the button arrangement, right?).
I will contact ebcases directly also.
Thanks!
I asked the guys in the UAE and was told that the JAM / JAMin are identical. From the spec sheet they are within 0.2mm in size.
To be honest I had one of these in hand a few weeks ago and there was no issues with button placement and fitement in the case.
thulsey said:
I felt exactly the same until I accidentally dropped mine about 2 1/2 feet onto a tile floor and it dented/scratched the top corner of the device. Not extreme, but it was only a light tap on the ground.
I immediately went out and bought a gel skin made for the Prophet. Adds nothing to the weight/size/form-factor of the device.
I saw one that had a flip down plastic screen protector as well, but figured that was a little overkill.
Of course, these are in cell phone shops all over Asia, don't know about other countries.
I've found many people on the street using these skins instead of cases just because of the form-factor element. It's a shame to ruin such portability and, dare I say, elegance, to protect it.
But even now I feel like one of those guys that leaves his television remote control in the cellophane wrap so that it won't get any wear and tear... it was made to be used!
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That is the reason why I really think that a protecting case is necessary (in case the device falls that is) - specially for a $600 device.
On the flip side, adding unnecessary bulk to a device which was purchased due to its slim form factor is kind of contradicting. Thus, I am searching for a very slim case, which still provides protection.
thulsey, which silicon case are you using? Have you heard of Skintight cases from Pamwarelabs http://www.palmwarelabs.com/Products/ProdList.aspx?CateID=36 ?
vsc said:
I asked the guys in the UAE and was told that the JAM / JAMin are identical. From the spec sheet they are within 0.2mm in size.
To be honest I had one of these in hand a few weeks ago and there was no issues with button placement and fitement in the case.
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Thanks vsc!
As long as the cut outs are not covering buttons, I guess thats fine then.
So, from the pictures of their website, the case really looks very tight and it appears that it doesnt add any (at least not too much) bulkiness to the s200. How does the case appear if you saw this it in person and on a Prophet? Do the pictures reflect the impression given on their site?
What about these?
Has anyone tried out the aluminium cases like the ones sold on expansys? Or this one for example
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=71
I know the last one is kind of not a case, but a carying holster, but nevertheless...
Yes the pictures are a good representation of the actual case.
Note that the cover flap has padding on the outside surface, but the supplier can manufacture the case without the padding to reduce volume. There is a hard card within the flap, so I don't consider the padding to serve any purpose.
On the other hand the case I'm using while I wait for the leather case is from Brando,
http://shop.brando.com.hk/bwsiliconecase_details.php?id=49
Simply put the unit in your pocket with the screen facing inward.
vsc said:
Yes the pictures are a good representation of the actual case.
Note that the cover flap has padding on the outside surface, but the supplier can manufacture the case without the padding to reduce volume. There is a hard card within the flap, so I don't consider the padding to serve any purpose.
On the other hand the case I'm using while I wait for the leather case is from Brando,
http://shop.brando.com.hk/bwsiliconecase_details.php?id=49
Simply put the unit in your pocket with the screen facing inward.
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I will contact the supplier to see how much the case would be without the padding. Anything, which makes the case a little slimmer helps - specially for that price.
Btw, is it cumbersome to put the silicon case on and off? I was thinking about the silicone case but I would have to put the device out of the case every day (for charging in desktop cradle and car mount, etc) and dont want o fiddle with this each day. Way easier to simply slight it into a case.
Changes to the case were US$10.
With respect to the Brando case...seconds. The problem is really related to the material's affinity for dust. Drop it in your pockets and you would be amazed as to the mount of crud it picks up. It wipes off with a microfiber cloth or cleans up with water.
Craic Dub said:
I will contact the supplier to see how much the case would be without the padding. Anything, which makes the case a little slimmer helps - specially for that price.
Btw, is it cumbersome to put the silicon case on and off? I was thinking about the silicone case but I would have to put the device out of the case every day (for charging in desktop cradle and car mount, etc) and dont want o fiddle with this each day. Way easier to simply slight it into a case.
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got a brando silicone skin and it tore in the corner of the screen where it is thin. It also had a spot on the keypad that was thicker making it look like a black dot and not transparent. I found it to fit very well, but was a little thick, felt like a Wizard when holding it. Dust isn't too bad if you're not a dirtbag.
got a brando silicone skin and it tore in the corner of the screen where it is thin. It also had a spot on the keypad that was thicker making it look like a black dot and not transparent. I found it to fit very well, but was a little thick, felt like a Wizard when holding it. Dust isn't too bad if you're not a dirtbag.
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thulsey said:
I immediately went out and bought a gel skin made for the Prophet. Adds nothing to the weight/size/form-factor of the device.
Of course, these are in cell phone shops all over Asia, don't know about other countries.
I've found many people on the street using these skins instead of cases just because of the form-factor element. It's a shame to ruin such portability and, dare I say, elegance, to protect it.
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That is the reason why I really think that a protecting case is necessary (in case the device falls that is) - specially for a $600 device.
On the flip side, adding unnecessary bulk to a device which was purchased due to its slim form factor is kind of contradicting. Thus, I am searching for a very slim case, which still provides protection.
thulsey, which silicon case are you using? Have you heard of Skintight cases from Pamwarelabs http://www.palmwarelabs.com/Products/ProdList.aspx?CateID=36 ?
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The one I'm using is very similar to the one from Palmwarelabs. It even has raised icons on each of the buttons so you can (sort of) feel what you're pressing. I think it's a local brand here in Taiwan, but I'll look into it and see if I can find it on the web.
When I was searching, I noticed that there are several different thicknesses of silicone, and various levels of craftsmanship that go into cutting things out (like the screen area, infrared port, etc.)
Get the flexskin from www.boxwave.com!!
You won't be dissapointed!
Hey...
Aluminium cases anyone???
vsc said:
You might find the following case suitable. I believe it adds the least volume to the unit given that it is conformal and very thin. (There might be something better, but I'm not aware of it.)
http://www.ebcases.com/Detail.bok?no=3331
There is also the possibility to customize the case as well for a fee. Thus one can ask the supplier to minimize thickness rather than providing the maximal protection to the unit.
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hey vsc, I talked to EBCases today and they said that the case for the Jam wont fit the Jamin due to different button arrangements.
According to EBCases' customer service agent (very friendly and helpful!), they are working on a new case right now, which will then fit the Jamin. The new case would probably take another 4 weeks in order to be released.
I might just wait for this new case, since their case really is the best I have seen so far (and I have looked at a lot of them).

Manufacturing / design defect (clear plastic)

I have my X7500 now for a week, and am a satisfied customer.
Except for one thing: after only a week the clear plastic on my keyboard is misted all over because it is scratching so heavily from useage (when you click the machine into the keyboard, especially in the case, it is almost unavoidable the clear plastic part will be scratched by the machine).
I have sent HTC a message that this is not acceptable for a € 1000 machine, and customer service will come back to me.
You must all have this same issue, can you please comment?
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I have my X7500 now for a week, and am a satisfied customer.
Except for one thing: after only a week the clear plastic on my keyboard is misted all over because it is scratching so heavily from useage (when you click the machine into the keaybord, especially in the case, it is almost unavoidable the clear plastic part will be scratched by the machine).
I have sent HTC a message that this is not acceptable for a € 1000 machine, and customer service will come back to me.
You must all have this same issue, can you please comment?
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Yep - mine is the same. Disappointed that the keyboard doesn't really fit comfortably in the case on the front of the device either (slips to one side or the other..).
the case is indeed not good, but this can be expected, you will need to buy a good case from a third party vendor. Piel Frama will have first samples in about 2 weeks, and I will guarantee you up front they will fit perfectly...
Try using a screen protector on that part ,thats what i'm planning of doing. i will try it and let you guys know how it goes.
I agree with that potential solution, but then HTC will at least need to replace the keyboard with a unscratched one
Doodle said:
I have my X7500 now for a week, and am a satisfied customer.
Except for one thing: after only a week the clear plastic on my keyboard is misted all over because it is scratching so heavily from useage.
You must all have this same issue, can you please comment?
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Slight scratches, I noticed it happening and altered how I handled the device. Also the PDair case I'm using seems to have less of a problem with it. I don't use the keyboard as a cover, of course, because it is in a case (though as in the comment after yours, the supplied case is VERY annoying in the way that the keyboard slips from one side to the other).
What can they do, though? It's partly due to the way people slide the Athena "around" to drop into the keyboard, rather than lifting it. I personally find the whole "viewing window" business utterly redundant - I can't see it in the case, it wastes backlight (whole display illuminated).
Doodle said:
the case is indeed not good, but this can be expected, you will need to buy a good case from a third party vendor. Piel Frama will have first samples in about 2 weeks, and I will guarantee you up front they will fit perfectly...
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Why, are they using a magentic attachment for the keyboard? Because the PDair case sucks after a couple of weeks of light use; the plastic distorts and presses several keys at once.
I want a case with a phrase custom-embossed on it
You could always fit a body shield - protects that part perfectly.
I've had the same problem
I've attached a picture of my keyboard to show the problem. In my case, it appears the scratching is coming from the relatively sharp chrome/metal "frame" around the screen. It's slighly proud (above) of the black plastic surface and when the keyboard is moved over the device it scrapes/gouges the clear plastic. My current plan is to just wait until it's gouged out all the plastic and then polish the clear plastic smooth again. But is sure would be nice to have a more appropriate fix from HTC for such and expensive device.
RichardKAthena said:
..... I personally find the whole "viewing window" business utterly redundant - I can't see it in the case, it wastes backlight (whole display illuminated).
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Yep - I have never taken mine out of the case so to be fair, I can live with the scratches on the clear plastic.
I did however cut off the 'Pen Loops' that are supposed to hold it shut - they got annoying after a couple of days.
apphoen said:
Yep - I have never taken mine out of the case so to be fair, I can live with the scratches on the clear plastic.
I did however cut off the 'Pen Loops' that are supposed to hold it shut - they got annoying after a couple of days.
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Sorry, what bit did you cut off?
jmdrizen said:
Sorry, what bit did you cut off?
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The loops on the case which you are supposed to put the supplied pen through to hold it shut.
Crappy design, they had to go.
apphoen said:
The loops on the case which you are supposed to put the supplied pen through to hold it shut.
Crappy design, they had to go.
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Thank God the DOPOD one doesn't have this pen loop, otherwise i will be cutting it off too.
wu5262 said:
Thank God the DOPOD one doesn't have this pen loop, otherwise i will be cutting it off too.
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Me too, glad i got the dopod now!
I've had my unit 10 days and it looks a lot older, I've used novus 1 and 2 to succesfully clean my plastic to look new again.
i tried the screen protector and it looks great. i will post some pics 2maro.
Does anyone have it on the T-Mobile Ameo or the Dopod?
Or is it just on the black HTC branded ones?
Not had this problem on my T-Mob Ameo and I've had that for over 2 months now...
rhedgehog said:
Does anyone have it on the T-Mobile Ameo or the Dopod?
Or is it just on the black HTC branded ones?
Not had this problem on my T-Mob Ameo and I've had that for over 2 months now...
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I've had two Ameo's and both are fine, I think it's what was mentioned before, if you lift and clip it's fine, but if you drag it over and click....

Paint-stripping problems?

Hi, I'm new ad I have a question for hd'users:
Have you note stripping problems?
I ask this because some italian users have note this after 3-4 days. They say that there are some chromate points on their hd.
Thank you.
Bounced Paint on the Frame
Hey guys,
I read something about scratches and damaged paint on the metal-frame around the HD.
What do you know about that? Anybody here who has this problem?
[WARNING] they chip easily
So I've had my HD about a week now. I'll be the first to admit I've not used any pouch or protector but i've never needed to with any of my other phones.
I've been treating it with care, ie only thing in my pocket, not putting it in my bag or my car etc.
Just given the unit a quick once over and can see chips in the gloss black on the front in 3-4 places already.
Just thought I'd share. I don't mind my phones looking 'used' but if you like your phones to be flawless you're in for a challenge with the (assumed) cheap gloss coating.
stuff like this really gets my goat. you pay top dollar for a product and there shouldnt be issues like this.
Get something like invisible shield to protect the entire body.
eaglesteve said:
Get something like invisible shield to protect the entire body.
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thats my point, you shouldnt have to.
indup said:
thats my point, you shouldnt have to.
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The materials that they use are not good enough. Even iPhone, which is considered to have the best material using very strong glass from Russia, can be scratch. That's why even iPhone needs protection from scratch, although their paint do not seem to chip off.
Using the materials that they use for iPhone, I assume, would be more costly.
eaglesteve said:
The materials that they use are not good enough. Even iPhone, which is considered to have the best material using very strong glass from Russia, can be scratch. That's why even iPhone needs protection from scratch, although their paint do not seem to chip off.
Using the materials that they use for iPhone, I assume, would be more costly.
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No, but the plastic on the backs of the iPhone 3Gs get stress fractures without any drops or pressure on them.
I don't ever use a screen protector. I treat my screen like I do a high dollar pair of sunglasses. only use microfiber clothes on it and I always use a belt case holder. I recently bought a Golla side pouch and like it a lot on how it protects it from all angles.
jon- said:
So I've had my HD about a week now. I'll be the first to admit I've not used any pouch or protector but i've never needed to with any of my other phones.
I've been treating it with care, ie only thing in my pocket, not putting it in my bag or my car etc.
Just given the unit a quick once over and can see chips in the gloss black on the front in 3-4 places already.
Just thought I'd share. I don't mind my phones looking 'used' but if you like your phones to be flawless you're in for a challenge with the (assumed) cheap gloss coating.
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me too, Ive had mine for 2 weeks though BUT don't have any chips, just one tiny scratch above the front speaker which I'm sure was me being drunk/careless ...
Good to hear that it is holding out good so far. However, I personally would still put on the protective shield, more as a precaution.
Can't hurt, can it?
If you use the stylus at all, I'd always use a screen protector. It's too easy to just one day trap a sharp particle between the stylus tip and the screen as you go to handwrite, and then scratch it up badly before you realise.
eaglesteve said:
The materials that they use are not good enough. Even iPhone, which is considered to have the best material using very strong glass from Russia, can be scratch. That's why even iPhone needs protection from scratch, although their paint do not seem to chip off.
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Well obviously glass can scratch and he's not suggesting his screen shouldnt scratch if its mistreated, theres a few ppl talking about the black area paint chipping, very reminiscent of the P3600i
HTC need to learn you cant promote a phone like this as a stylish new device and skimp out on essentials like this. My iphone 2G is a prime example of craftsmanship, I dont know how many times the back of it should be scratched and battered by now but it still looks damn good and quality.
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Just given the unit a quick once over and can see chips in the gloss black on the front in 3-4 places already.
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Any photos to see??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447898
On my HD TIM the paint is gone
paolonio said:
On my HD TIM the paint is gone
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Post some pictures!
Mine is still in perfect condition, not a scratch, so no reason the paint would come off either.
Of course, I don't drop it, bang it into walls, store it in a pocket along with my keys, throw it around, etc
Got it for a couple of weeks now
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Mine is still in perfect condition, not a scratch, so no reason the paint would come off either.
Of course, I don't drop it, bang it into walls, store it in a pocket along with my keys, throw it around, etc
Got it for a couple of weeks now
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Same here!
No need to create panic, so I'm gonna give the guys a chance to post some pictures before I close this thread.
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Post some pictures!
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Second that. You have to show that you even have a phone in the first place.
But seriously, let's see how bad the situation is.
Yep, check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448193
My paint is starting to come off.

Screen protector

How do we install the screen protector?
There's already a layer of clear plastic on my HD (out of the box) that covers the entire screen, inc the buttons and has a cutout for the earpiece. Is this a screen protector ?
I tried putting the screen protector that comes in the box, over my screen, it has nothing to anchor to, there's no earpiece sticking up etc, everything is totally flush thus my query above.
If the thing on the HD is not a screen cover, how on earth am I to install this spare one? Do I need glue? I cannot find anything about it in the manual?
Some clarification would be really welcomed
thanks
gt
Do not put glue on you're screen! Damn!
And the "plastic" that's on you're screen, is not the screen protector. It's almost the other way around. If it was glass, if wouldn't scratch, like on the iPhone. So, due to that plastic, it scratches quite easily.
As I do not own the HD yet, I don't know how to apply the screen protector. I would guess it just sticks on.
Could we have some clarification on this please?...
The plastic film that's on your phone in the box is just to protect it (persumably through manufacturing, packaging, transport etc), you need to take that off.
I've never found the HTC screen protectors much good, didn't even bother to try and fit the one that came with the HD. If you search the forums you'll find links to better options.
Thanks Bungieman
You prompted me in the right direction. The screen protector is a peel back sticky (dinnt realise that before). I have just installe dit now, was tricky to say the least.
Another reason to be pissed off. You pay a huge sum of money and no glass screen. And no instructions or clarification for the micky mouse screen protector they give you.
Since the HTC Touch HD uses a touch screen, which actually needs you to apply pressure, a glasscreen would be way to "hard" for it to recognize any touching.
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Since the HTC Touch HD uses a touch screen, which actually needs you to apply pressure, a glasscreen would be way to "hard" for it to recognize any touching.
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so what about the iPhone and iTouch then? its my understanding that they use glass screens, they cannot be scratched and there is no need to be sticking little pieces of plastic all over them
They use capacitive touch-screens. I think they respond to heat, or electricity, meaning that they cannot be used with a stylus, but needs no pressure to work.
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They use capacitive touch-screens. I think they respond to heat, or electricity, meaning that they cannot be used with a stylus, but needs no pressure to work.
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ahhh, thanks Bungie, that answers two questions for me, now I know why they are so beautifully responsive.
(Im not a mac person, honest I'm not)
gt112 said:
How do we install the screen protector?
There's already a layer of clear plastic on my HD (out of the box) that covers the entire screen, inc the buttons and has a cutout for the earpiece. Is this a screen protector ?
I tried putting the screen protector that comes in the box, over my screen, it has nothing to anchor to, there's no earpiece sticking up etc, everything is totally flush thus my query above.
If the thing on the HD is not a screen cover, how on earth am I to install this spare one? Do I need glue? I cannot find anything about it in the manual?
Some clarification would be really welcomed
thanks
gt
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gt112,
Usually we need to have some water applied on the device first, then place the protector over the device. The presence of water will prevent the protector from sticking to the wrong position. Then, using something like a credit card, you repeatedly swipe over the protector in such a way that you maintain the correct position, as well as dispel the water under the protector out. The dispelled water will make the protector stick to the device. The main point is to ensure there is no air between the protector and the screen surface.
Good luck.
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They use capacitive touch-screens. I think they respond to heat, or electricity, meaning that they cannot be used with a stylus, but needs no pressure to work.
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Electric current, produced by the big walking batteries we call humans.
Messes with the "capacitance" under the glass of the iPhone and it's recognised as "touching".
Insaneboy said:
Electric current, produced by the big walking batteries we call humans.
Messes with the "capacitance" under the glass of the iPhone and it's recognised as "touching".
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Yes , the same technology Samsung used for the F480. A shame HTC didnt choose it either, because it works really well - at least if someone doesnt necessarily want a stylus.
Anyhow, the is the shipped protector an adhesive layer? Could it be easily removed and applied again?
the touch screen works for iphone, without the need for stylus, because the all the buttons are big. on WM devices, once you get past touchflo you are back in the realms of small icons whereby sometimes it's easier to use the stylus.
but the HD still rocks, so far i've only needed the stylus a few times.
frustin said:
the touch screen works for iphone, without the need for stylus, because the all the buttons are big. on WM devices, once you get past touchflo you are back in the realms of small icons whereby sometimes it's easier to use the stylus.
but the HD still rocks, so far i've only needed the stylus a few times.
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You couldn't use a stylus on iPhone even if you wanted!
tnyynt said:
You couldn't use a stylus on iPhone even if you wanted!
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Thats what I was referring to previously by "necessarily a stylus".
But as to the shipped protector, is it an adhesive layer and could it be easily removed and applied again?
Insaneboy said:
Electric current, produced by the big walking batteries we call humans.
Messes with the "capacitance" under the glass of the iPhone and it's recognised as "touching".
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I actually knew that.
Sometimes I find it hard to explain things, as I am not used to doing that in English.
But, one thing I'm wondering, is that many people keep saying the screen on iPhone won't work if your finger is cold, or wet. A wet finger would just lead the electric current even better, wouldn't it?
tnyynt said:
You couldn't use a stylus on iPhone even if you wanted!
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i was trying to point out the reason why the HD still, imo, needs one rather than why the iphone doesnt.
drzoid said:
But as to the shipped protector, is it an adhesive layer and could it be easily removed and applied again?
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Yes and maybe. You can remove it without residue, but I had trouble cleaning it, so I just used another one.
Usually we need to have some water applied on the device first, then place the protector over the device. The presence of water will prevent the protector from sticking to the wrong position. Then, using something like a credit card, you repeatedly swipe over the protector in such a way that you maintain the correct position, as well as dispel the water under the protector out. The dispelled water will make the protector stick to the device. The main point is to ensure there is no air between the protector and the screen surface.
Good luck.
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Hi Eaglesteve, are you serious about applying the water ? Are you referring to the official screen protector from htc? i am using its pressure sensitivie adhesive (PSA) and that's it .
Indeed, the original screen protector is pretty good: it is essentially impossible to notice its existance since it is perfectly cut and there are ZERO bubbles if you apply it correctly e.g. carefully without touching the surface and carefully cleaning the screen before. In addition, the "slide" of the finger over the screen is even better and it's very easy to clean - just rub it on your clothes!
tnyynt said:
You couldn't use a stylus on iPhone even if you wanted!
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Not true.
http://dvice.com/archives/2008/03/the_iphone_styl.php

Is it a good idea to put Gmask on the Nexus One?

When I get my unit, I'll make sure that I won't get dust in because it would be very difficult for me to return it or get it fixed. Because the phone's not available in my country, I'm pretty sure that I can't buy accessories for it here.
I think, the solution is putting Gmask on it. I'm lucky that they have branches in my area.
Do you think, it would be a good idea to put Gmask on the Nexus One (to generally protect it and avoid the dust issue)?
anthro said:
When I get my unit, I'll make sure that I won't get dust in because it would be very difficult for me to return it or get it fixed. Because the phone's not available in my country, I'm pretty sure that I can't buy accessories for it here.
I think, the solution is putting Gmask on it. I'm lucky that they have branches in my area.
Do you think, it would be a good idea to put Gmask on the Nexus One (to generally protect it and avoid the dust issue)?
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What is Gmask? Is it like the Invisible Shield?
uansari1 said:
What is Gmask? Is it like the Invisible Shield?
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I don't know what Invisible Sheild is...
GMask covers handhelds and laptops (and maybe any type of gadget). You bring it to their store then they'll cover the unit 100%, I suppose. I think, their skins are custom made for every device they handle. They also have screen protectors.
According to their website, they support every mobile phone. They show the G1 on www.gmask.com/device/phone
anthro said:
I don't know what Invisible Sheild is...
GMask covers handhelds and laptops (and maybe any type of gadget). You bring it to their store then they'll cover the unit 100%, I suppose. I think, their skins are custom made for every device they handle. They also have screen protectors.
According to their website, they support every mobile phone. They show the G1 on www.gmask.com/device/phone
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Ah... I see. It's similar to Invisible Shield and the other clear skin type protectors.
To really make sure your screen is protected from dust (or as much as can be possible), make sure there's no clicking sound when you push on any of the corners. If there is, immediately warm the screen up with a blow dryer for a bit and use moderate pressure to push down on the corners and sides of the screen to seal it properly. Should be fine afterwards.
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Ah... I see. It's similar to Invisible Shield and the other clear skin type protectors.
To really make sure your screen is protected from dust (or as much as can be possible), make sure there's no clicking sound when you push on any of the corners. If there is, immediately warm the screen up with a blow dryer for a bit and use moderate pressure to push down on the corners and sides of the screen to seal it properly. Should be fine afterwards.
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Looks like Invisible Sheild has one tailor fit for the Nexus One http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
However, the spaces between the screen and the unit aren't covered so that doesn't assure me that it's a solution for the dust. I hope, they also cover 100% (except the holes and ports, of course)
uansari1 said:
Ah... I see. It's similar to Invisible Shield and the other clear skin type protectors.
To really make sure your screen is protected from dust (or as much as can be possible), make sure there's no clicking sound when you push on any of the corners. If there is, immediately warm the screen up with a blow dryer for a bit and use moderate pressure to push down on the corners and sides of the screen to seal it properly. Should be fine afterwards.
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Thanks- I just noticed that there is a bit of dust under the screen and that the bottom left corner clicks. The blow dryer thing worked Hopefully now no more dust will go in…

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