How do we install the screen protector?
There's already a layer of clear plastic on my HD (out of the box) that covers the entire screen, inc the buttons and has a cutout for the earpiece. Is this a screen protector ?
I tried putting the screen protector that comes in the box, over my screen, it has nothing to anchor to, there's no earpiece sticking up etc, everything is totally flush thus my query above.
If the thing on the HD is not a screen cover, how on earth am I to install this spare one? Do I need glue? I cannot find anything about it in the manual?
Some clarification would be really welcomed
thanks
gt
Do not put glue on you're screen! Damn!
And the "plastic" that's on you're screen, is not the screen protector. It's almost the other way around. If it was glass, if wouldn't scratch, like on the iPhone. So, due to that plastic, it scratches quite easily.
As I do not own the HD yet, I don't know how to apply the screen protector. I would guess it just sticks on.
Could we have some clarification on this please?...
The plastic film that's on your phone in the box is just to protect it (persumably through manufacturing, packaging, transport etc), you need to take that off.
I've never found the HTC screen protectors much good, didn't even bother to try and fit the one that came with the HD. If you search the forums you'll find links to better options.
Thanks Bungieman
You prompted me in the right direction. The screen protector is a peel back sticky (dinnt realise that before). I have just installe dit now, was tricky to say the least.
Another reason to be pissed off. You pay a huge sum of money and no glass screen. And no instructions or clarification for the micky mouse screen protector they give you.
Since the HTC Touch HD uses a touch screen, which actually needs you to apply pressure, a glasscreen would be way to "hard" for it to recognize any touching.
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Since the HTC Touch HD uses a touch screen, which actually needs you to apply pressure, a glasscreen would be way to "hard" for it to recognize any touching.
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so what about the iPhone and iTouch then? its my understanding that they use glass screens, they cannot be scratched and there is no need to be sticking little pieces of plastic all over them
They use capacitive touch-screens. I think they respond to heat, or electricity, meaning that they cannot be used with a stylus, but needs no pressure to work.
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They use capacitive touch-screens. I think they respond to heat, or electricity, meaning that they cannot be used with a stylus, but needs no pressure to work.
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ahhh, thanks Bungie, that answers two questions for me, now I know why they are so beautifully responsive.
(Im not a mac person, honest I'm not)
gt112 said:
How do we install the screen protector?
There's already a layer of clear plastic on my HD (out of the box) that covers the entire screen, inc the buttons and has a cutout for the earpiece. Is this a screen protector ?
I tried putting the screen protector that comes in the box, over my screen, it has nothing to anchor to, there's no earpiece sticking up etc, everything is totally flush thus my query above.
If the thing on the HD is not a screen cover, how on earth am I to install this spare one? Do I need glue? I cannot find anything about it in the manual?
Some clarification would be really welcomed
thanks
gt
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gt112,
Usually we need to have some water applied on the device first, then place the protector over the device. The presence of water will prevent the protector from sticking to the wrong position. Then, using something like a credit card, you repeatedly swipe over the protector in such a way that you maintain the correct position, as well as dispel the water under the protector out. The dispelled water will make the protector stick to the device. The main point is to ensure there is no air between the protector and the screen surface.
Good luck.
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They use capacitive touch-screens. I think they respond to heat, or electricity, meaning that they cannot be used with a stylus, but needs no pressure to work.
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Electric current, produced by the big walking batteries we call humans.
Messes with the "capacitance" under the glass of the iPhone and it's recognised as "touching".
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Electric current, produced by the big walking batteries we call humans.
Messes with the "capacitance" under the glass of the iPhone and it's recognised as "touching".
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Yes , the same technology Samsung used for the F480. A shame HTC didnt choose it either, because it works really well - at least if someone doesnt necessarily want a stylus.
Anyhow, the is the shipped protector an adhesive layer? Could it be easily removed and applied again?
the touch screen works for iphone, without the need for stylus, because the all the buttons are big. on WM devices, once you get past touchflo you are back in the realms of small icons whereby sometimes it's easier to use the stylus.
but the HD still rocks, so far i've only needed the stylus a few times.
frustin said:
the touch screen works for iphone, without the need for stylus, because the all the buttons are big. on WM devices, once you get past touchflo you are back in the realms of small icons whereby sometimes it's easier to use the stylus.
but the HD still rocks, so far i've only needed the stylus a few times.
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You couldn't use a stylus on iPhone even if you wanted!
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You couldn't use a stylus on iPhone even if you wanted!
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Thats what I was referring to previously by "necessarily a stylus".
But as to the shipped protector, is it an adhesive layer and could it be easily removed and applied again?
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Electric current, produced by the big walking batteries we call humans.
Messes with the "capacitance" under the glass of the iPhone and it's recognised as "touching".
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I actually knew that.
Sometimes I find it hard to explain things, as I am not used to doing that in English.
But, one thing I'm wondering, is that many people keep saying the screen on iPhone won't work if your finger is cold, or wet. A wet finger would just lead the electric current even better, wouldn't it?
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You couldn't use a stylus on iPhone even if you wanted!
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i was trying to point out the reason why the HD still, imo, needs one rather than why the iphone doesnt.
drzoid said:
But as to the shipped protector, is it an adhesive layer and could it be easily removed and applied again?
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Yes and maybe. You can remove it without residue, but I had trouble cleaning it, so I just used another one.
Usually we need to have some water applied on the device first, then place the protector over the device. The presence of water will prevent the protector from sticking to the wrong position. Then, using something like a credit card, you repeatedly swipe over the protector in such a way that you maintain the correct position, as well as dispel the water under the protector out. The dispelled water will make the protector stick to the device. The main point is to ensure there is no air between the protector and the screen surface.
Good luck.
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Hi Eaglesteve, are you serious about applying the water ? Are you referring to the official screen protector from htc? i am using its pressure sensitivie adhesive (PSA) and that's it .
Indeed, the original screen protector is pretty good: it is essentially impossible to notice its existance since it is perfectly cut and there are ZERO bubbles if you apply it correctly e.g. carefully without touching the surface and carefully cleaning the screen before. In addition, the "slide" of the finger over the screen is even better and it's very easy to clean - just rub it on your clothes!
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Not true.
http://dvice.com/archives/2008/03/the_iphone_styl.php
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It seems no matter how hard I try, I'm finding it almost impossible to not get *some* dust under my screen protectors when I apply them - am I alone?
Si.
See my post in this thread - works every time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=32028
Steamy room - aren't you worried the humidity will affect the PDA?
Ineedtoys: great stuff!
And as also in that thread, use the frosted 3m sticky tape to lift dust off the screen protector. It's only mildly tacky.
I make a "sheet" of sticky tape, laying it in strips across the screen, and then lift it off just before appling the protector. If you notice any remaining bits of dust, use another strip to lift off the dust again just before applying the protector.
Steam will help keep the dust off the screen to begin with.
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Steamy room - aren't you worried the humidity will affect the PDA?
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It doesn't have to be that steamy like a Turkish bath - you need to be able to see what you're doing after all! Just humid enough to kill the dust and static in the air. If you're worried about condensation forming, just make sure you keep it in a warm room afterwards until it's had chance to fully acclimatise.
I've got around seven bits of dust trapped under the protector - and I've tried five times - should I give up and accept that I've done my best - I couldn't see them when applying!
Si.
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I've got around seven bits of dust trapped under the protector - and I've tried five times - should I give up and accept that I've done my best - I couldn't see them when applying!
Si.
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Well now I've done it a few times I don't settle for one - if there is, then I go back to the start and give it a good wash. But, there is the risk that the more times you remove and apply the protector, the more likely it is that you'll damage or distort it. The most important thing is to take your time. You'll get used to spotting the defects when applying, so the only thing to do is to abandon that attempt and try again. Trying to squeeze the dust specks out will _never_ work.
Hi!
I always use the Brando Screen Protector, which is a reusable, washable, permanent foil.
For this the trick was, to clean the pda screen with a soft cloth which is made wet with glass cleaner and water. of course not too wet, just a little, so that the pda screen is not soaked.
the glass cleaner seems to have some antistatic effect so it does not get any dust on it.
But this trick is for the Brando foils, which is a little different than the normal foils.
maybe this helps.
I used Brando as well, got it on first time, no dust.
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See my post in this thread - works every time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=32028
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Indeed it does - with one additional note - use a quality protector - I've tried ultra clear ones from ebay, but just applied a PPC techs clear protector - not a problem.
Cheers,
Si.
Hi
Maybe a stupid question but I bought some screen protectors from Ebay and fitted one of them quite succesfully. Problem is the touchscreen no longer works, no reaction from the stylus.
Are they just crap protectors or am I missing something basic??
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Simon
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Are they just crap protectors....??
Cheers
Simon
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I think you've answered your own question.
Si.
the diamond,as we all know has a very weak screen..anything will make a permanent scratch,even your fingernail !....the point is once scratched it looks terrible...the only soultion (so far) is to install the white mannila theme http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433050
as this completely hides all the scratches...more white/grey /light coloured themes would really help all thoses scratched diamonds out there..so theme makers please do some variations on light/white coloured themes as the scratch problem will only get worse !
That's why there are Screen Protectors.
The screen protector is rubbish too though, i have scratches on mine that have gone through that to the screen.
We all know that accidents can happen to scratch the touch screens but if people just use the inside of their fingers or use the Stylus you shouldn't have a problem. I never have even after 5 touch screen PDA/Phones.
This might be worth a shot:
http://www.amazon.com/Allsop-CD-Scratch-Repair-Kit/dp/B000056NNB
Or you can try furniture polish
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The screen protector is rubbish too though, i have scratches on mine that have gone through that to the screen.
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What the hell are you doing to your screen to get deep scratches like that?
Razor blades do not make good stylus
gobmonster said:
What the hell are you doing to your screen to get deep scratches like that?
Razor blades do not make good stylus
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I'm wondering the same!!!
Have you considered using a nail file, keeps everything smooooooth
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This might be worth a shot:
http://www.amazon.com/Allsop-CD-Scratch-Repair-Kit/dp/B000056NNB
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Those things actually work by grinding down the surface layer so that the scratch is less diffractive. I seriously wouldn't use that on your phone, unless you want to destroy it completely.
I was under the impression you can send it off to have the sreen repaired.
Surely you can polish scratches out?
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Those things actually work by grinding down the surface layer so that the scratch is less diffractive. I seriously wouldn't use that on your phone, unless you want to destroy it completely.
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thats how most polishes work... they either fill it in or take a little bit off the surface.
the best i have found with previous devices is Acrylic Polish (like very fine T-Cut)
you wont break the device using it!
I used toothpaste and a soft cloth, to buff out light scratches from my diamond, it wont completely erase them, but it helps
My mates Dad just jabs at his screen with his car keys, it makes me cringe to think about it.
Surprisingly I took a dremel tool and put a cotton bit on the end, cranked the bugger to full speed and melted the scratch away. Need to be careful with how you do it but it does work. I suppose if you just go right at it and not pay close enough attention you'd warp the screen though...
Hello people
I am using Pocket Artist to draw and I love it.
But I am just little worried that I may scratch the display - which I would not like at all.
is it possible to make some scracthes with the stylus?
Thank you people.
Sopis said:
Hello people
I am using Pocket Artist to draw and I love it.
But I am just little worried that I may scratch the display - which I would not like at all.
is it possible to make some scracthes with the stylus?
Thank you people.
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If you have your screen protector on which came with the phone you should have no problems
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is it possible to make some scracthes with the stylus?
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yes it is. imagine that you can have some dust particles (which, in the end, is just stone) under your stylus
but if you use the screen protector, as advised, you can forget about this issue
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yes it is. imagine that you can have some dust particles (which, in the end, is just stone) under your stylus
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??? Off topic i know but Stone ???? Surely dust particles are generally human skin, in the house anyway.... Stone...my god no wonder i am putting on weight if all i am eating is dust !!
Sorry couldnt help that bit of fun, no malice intended. I concur though that so long as you have a screen protector on of some nature you should be fine to draw away to your hearts content.
Yes, I get small, small, "stone" on stylus on my old HP 4150. You can just imagine what I did with that screen. Since this disaster, there is allways screen protector on all my mobiles, pdas,....
whilst im not convinced that dust could scratch it since just is just human skin im positive that all the other crap that sticks to the screen finger grease can and will scratch it if run over with the stylus.
Sopis said:
Hello people
I am using Pocket Artist to draw and I love it.
But I am just little worried that I may scratch the display - which I would not like at all.
is it possible to make some scracthes with the stylus?
Thank you people.
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Take as much care of your stylus as you do your screen. Check the end of your stylus for chips and scratches.
Old chinese proverb....
Look after your stylus and it will look after your screen!
Anfloyd said:
Old chinese proverb....
Look after your stylus and it will look after your screen!
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the infinite wisdom of the chinese people......
about the dust - despite what some might belive, dust is not only dead skin (found mostly within people houses) but came also from walls, roads, fields, etc.
So better respect "the chinese proverb" and you will more happy
i actually did scratch mine in the first days.
the protection it came with was already gone so i removed it.
but i did not want to put the real one on if i had to return it to the store.
i scrolled up in the wether panel and voila a big scratch all over the phone.
i guess the stylus had a sharp end.
you could hardly feel it with the finger but the stylus stuck at it and you couldnt use it anymore.
but my store swapped it without question
thanks for all the replies guys
so as you guys advised and blah blah...
i didnt put the screen protector...and what I found on my screen when I went to bed?
SCRATCH!! just a little one...but it is there...
so I learned a lesson..and now I wanted to apply the SP but really couldnt, then I accidentaly touched the adhesive side (I did applying screen protector 1st time ever) and it got dirty OMG ..I hope I can wash it somehow and reapply or whatever..
Yep so anyone who will read this thread without having SP applied - DO IT!
Very good advice...because if you will read this thread and wont apply SP you will get a scratch, black magic!! Buhuhuhaha
Just kiddin...
Here you go - if you scroll down to the first video on the page you'll see how they scratch HD2's screen with keys, a knife and scissors - and none of these leave any traces on the screen.
Warning: This is not for the faint of heart. Unless you are used to eating babies for breakfast you may be better off not watching this brutal torture video. Here's a quick test to check if you're ready:
1. Do you plan to start using an electric vehicle to help stop global warming?
2. Do you consider your personal contribution to the cause of Free Tibet insufficient?
3. Did you ever believe a politician?
If you answer "yes" to any of the questions above, this thread might be better for you.
Wow, now that's hard glass...no screen saver needed for me.
I felt literally sick after watching that
Waouh ! no screen protector for me too !
Yikes, but boy are those camera pictures crap, why did they put that pile of ****e in it. What a let down.
Finally
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Here you go - if you scroll down to the first video on the page you'll see how they scratch HD2's screen with keys, a knife and scissors - and none of these leave any traces on the screen.
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I was keeping asking this question in all forums and finally you brought me THE answer in video...
Thanks so much
Watta device
you can see the screen scratching with the scissors.
I guarantee you however hard it is, there will be marks on that screen, even if superficial.
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you can see the screen scratching with the scissors.
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No that's not scratches but a mark made by fat left by the fingers. He cleans the screen after and no more mark...
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No that's not scratches but a mark made by fat left by the fingers. He cleans the screen after and no more mark...
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Personally i'm seeing a smudge over where he was scratching, without cleaning the screen no conclusive information can be taken from this.
Well, he says there are no scratches left, for what it's worth. I would trust his opinion in this case rather than impressions from the video.
well even if their was scratches on teh scree from SISSORS it is still impressive. i mena come on, the guy was trying to scratch the screen and it diddnt.
what it doesnt show on the video is the amount of pressure he applied though.
I'm sure you can scratch it, picking the right tools and the right pressure. But I think it's rather safe to assume that it's scratch resistant enough to keep the phone in your pocket without any shields.
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I'm sure you can scratch it, picking the right tools and the right pressure. But I think it's rather safe to assume that it's scratch resistant enough to keep the phone in your pocket without any shields.
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agreed, i think the point behind the entire "scratch proof" is to prove that placing it in your pocket without a screen protector will not have it coming out looking like a touch HD 1 This is great news in my humble opinion!!
not sure what is so bad of putting a screen protector, really? I won't take a risk at all to have a permanent scratch on my device!
Well, because I hate doing things like applying those damned protectors; because those protectors get scratched fairly easily and your device starts looking like crap; because I can never apply them accurately enough so that they don't have bubbles underneath.
I hate them with a passion, really. I even wanted to by an iPhone because of this. When I first heard about capacitive screen on the Leo I didn't give a damn about multi-touch (and I still don't care much about it). My hope was that HTC would use a glass screen surface. Now I'm happy. The screen is scratch resistant; if I still manage to put a scratch on it, I'll have it replaced - it's not that expensive.
that was stressful watchin that The poor TD2
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Well, because I hate doing things like applying those damned protectors; because those protectors get scratched fairly easily and your device starts looking like crap; because I can never apply them accurately enough so that they don't have bubbles underneath.
I hate them with a passion, really. I even wanted to by an iPhone because of this. When I first heard about capacitive screen on the Leo I didn't give a damn about multi-touch (and I still don't care much about it). My hope was that HTC would use a glass screen surface. Now I'm happy. The screen is scratch resistant; if I still manage to put a scratch on it, I'll have it replaced - it's not that expensive.
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agree 100% with u, man i loved those iPhone screens, i could care less about the multi touch, i mean great, but if my HD 1 would have that screen, i'd be more than happy using it for a good more couple of months!
Really impressive, thanks for sharing
Ah c'mon! Some of you guys arguing about whether it scratched with scissors, ffs a car windscreen will scratch with scissors!! It very scratch resistant, i'm very impressed. Christ I wouldn't be surprised if some of you started complaining it's not dishwasher proof, jeez...
vangrieg said:
Here you go - if you scroll down to the first video on the page you'll see how they scratch HD2's screen with keys, a knife and scissors - and none of these leave any traces on the screen.
Warning: This is not for the faint of heart. Unless you are used to eating babies for breakfast you may be better off not watching this brutal torture video. Here's a quick test to check if you're ready:
1. Do you plan to start using an electric vehicle to help stop global warming?
2. Do you consider your personal contribution to the cause of Free Tibet insufficient?
3. Did you ever believe a politician?
If you answer "yes" to any of the questions above, this thread might be better for you.
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it seems like not a reliable test to me, the reviewers seems using light pressure doing the test. And I really don't believe that any phone in the market can be really scratch resistant. Why taking the risk. In real world usages, there are many things can scratch glass surface very easily, and why leave some permanent scratches to the expensive device? What is so wrong with a screen protector?
Is it possible to type with a capacitive display also through a waterproof camera case (it's like a clear slim plastic bag; it means no direct contact with skin); I use this for hiking/biking as a rain protection for the device.
JLowe said:
Is it possible to type with a capacitive display also through a waterproof camera case (it's like a clear slim plastic bag; it means no direct contact with skin); I use this for hiking/biking as a rain protection for the device.
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I'm afraid not mate. As far as I'm aware, capacitive screens require the small electric charge that we naturally give off, and the plastic cover will stop conductivity.
If that's a deciding factor for you getting this phone, I wouldn't recommend it. Maybe see if there's anything around that does the same job, and works for capacitive screens. I don't think it's impossible, as you can get screen protectors that work (as seen on iPhones and soon on my HD2).
JLowe said:
Is it possible to type with a capacitive display also through a waterproof camera case (it's like a clear slim plastic bag; it means no direct contact with skin); I use this for hiking/biking as a rain protection for the device.
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Don't have HD2 at the moment but do have an Iphone. I modified a transparent pencil case which I use on motor bike and bicycle - no problem at all typing on the Iphone capacitive screen.
custardo01 said:
I modified a transparent pencil case which I use on motor bike and bicycle - no problem at all typing on the Iphone capacitive screen.
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Yeah, go ahead and ignore me then - I obviously don't know what I'm talking about lol.
Thought I did!
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Yeah, go ahead and ignore me then - I obviously don't know what I'm talking about lol.
Thought I did!
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You're not as wrong as you think.
It's true that capacitive screens work by measuring a distortion of a localised electrical field, caused by the small electrical current given off by human skin but it doesn't mean that the screens cannot be covered at all - there are plenty of screen protectors on the market that work just fine with capacitive screens.
But if there's too big an obstruction, it will interfere with the usage of the handset, such as wearing gloves etc.
Mine seems to work ok in this one - the Ortlieb GPS case.
http://ortlieb.com/index_white.php?lang=en&m1=0&m2=0&file=p-search.php
Cheers David
davwil said:
Mine seems to work ok in this one - the Ortlieb GPS case.
http://ortlieb.com/index_white.php?lang=en&m1=0&m2=0&file=p-search.php
Cheers David
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Thank you for your information. Great that it works!
got a waterproof beach-case for electronic devices for storage, can try with that later today
I use a Run.gps armband with my HD2.
Screen works fine !
I use it for cycling to work everyday
it was designed HD/Iphone sized devices, so the HD2 is a bit tighter fit, and the headphone hole is in the wrong place in the neoprene (but that was easily fixed )
http://www.rungps.net/wiki/NeopreneArmbandABX2EN