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End call doesn't end call...

I have the 8525 with WM6 installed. About 1 in 40 times, the End Call option doesn't display that the call ended (on my side). I attempt to still talk to the other person but I can't hear them, though. After about 2 minutes later, it finally ends the connection. I must do a soft reset to temporarily fix it; the only drawback is that the most previous call isn't shown as being made.
About 1 in 80 times, the call attempts to be made, but doesn't connect at all. I try to End Call, but it seems to "freeze" the screen. The "Close screen" seems to help, as in 30 seconds the device finally quits trying to connect.
Another thing I noticed, after the phone freezes, the antenna signal drops to zero and then returns to about 2 - 3 bars of signal, about 5 seconds later. I'm not sure if that is the cause of the phone hanging, or not. Is there any kind of software to resolve this issue? It's really annoying! Thanks for any help!

is that a cooked rom or official? what's your radio version and carrier?
I'm thinking u need a different radio verson...(u must have hardspl to flash another radio version)...

I got the 8525 as a reconditioned from AT&T about 3 weeks ago. It came with WM5, and I had the above calling issues back then too. I then was informed on the boards here to upgrade to WM6, which I downloaded from HTC, via the AT&T website link.
As for programs, I removed the AT&T "bloatware" via the hard reset trick. Later, I installed S2U2, HTC Streaming Media, HTweakC2.1b, and the PTTFix software. One other program on the 8525 is OCN8 -- for my iBlue 737 Bluetooth GPS device. There are no other files that I can recall, except maps, songs, internet .jpgs, and (camera) pictures/videos.
Settings:
ROM Version: 3.62.502.3
ROM Date: 10/11/07
Radio Version: 1.54.07.00
Protocol Version: 32.86u.7020.23H

I do appreciate and try to understand all of the replies that I receive, and I do try to respond within a timely manner. I understand that people are busy and may have other careers as well. However, the thing that makes me pull my hair out is when someone starts to assist my problem, then just ditches the thread after my reply, without so much as an "I'm sorry, but I'm not able to solve your problem" at the minimum! Normally, I give a 48 hour window for the helper or any more helpers to reply before I get frustrated, but it's been way past that timeframe now!
I've noticed that phenomenon on 3 of my prior posts, each are on different subjects. It seems that after the first reply, no one but the original helper responds! If that original helper is busy, or just forgets about the thread, then I'm screwed over.
Sorry to rant, but I tried looking all over the boards for the best Radio program. All I seem to find is best ROMs, but not really Radios. I've seen 2 other Radio programs in signatures, but I'm not sure what one would be best for my purposes. I've seen mention of 1.47.30 & 1.47.00.10 in some members' signatures, but I'm hesitant to just "trial and error" one, for fear it would damage my device. I currently have the WM6 default 1.54.07.00 version, but it freezes up on making some calls and more often on ending a current call.
Anyone else for ideas or opinions on what Radio program to use? Please back up your opinion with facts when possible. I am not an expert on the device, just a new user who is afraid to ruin my investment.
Much thanks to all who read this post and reply to it!

Hi, just saw your thread & did not know U were still hanging....
I would try radio 1.48.00.00 first, then 1.47.00.10 or 1.50.00.00 if necessary. Seem's a lot of at&t users liked 1.48 from what I noticed (don't forget hardspl - use mrvanx guide in the Mobile 6 forum section)...
Here's the 1.54 thread with pro's, con's, and 1.48 at&t comments...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334697&highlight=radio+1.48

galaxys said:
I would try radio 1.48.00.00 first, then 1.47.00.10 or 1.50.00.00 if necessary. Seem's a lot of at&t users liked 1.48 from what I noticed (don't forget hardspl - use mrvanx guide in the Mobile 6 forum section)...
Here's the 1.54 thread with pro's, con's, and 1.48 at&t comments...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334697&highlight=radio+1.48
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Thanks for the reply! I will do the hardspl first, then try to install the 1.48.00.00 Radio. I'll report back with details in a day or two.

My current Image Version is 3.62.502.3, and I am attempting to update it to 3.54.255.3.
I keep having errors while trying to install Radio Version 1.48.00.10 to my 8525, after opening RUU_Inside.exe on my laptop. I've even tried to install it from my microSD card, but I get the tri-color screen instead of the white background with text screen, shown in the online example. The 8525 ActiveSyncs to the computer fine, and the screen shows:
"Updating the ROM image on your PDA phone ...
Please do not remove the USB connection from the PDA Phone or launch any program during the update process.
Remember the operation will take about 10 minutes."
As soon as the above grey box pops up, ActiveSync drops after that box appears, then I get the following message:
"Error [260]: CONNECTION"
I've installed Hard-SPL v.7 onto the 8525 already. Not that it seems to make a difference, I believe, but other programs that are on it include: WMXL 8525 Keyboard Fix, S2U2 1.16, Resco Explorer 2008, PTTFix, MunduRadio, & HTweakC 2.1,

not sure, but did a "search" for error 260 & seems to be your pc usb port:
(use xda google search for any questions)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368624
btw, u are using XP & not Vista on u'r pc.

My laptop has XP (Media Center Edition). I did a search as well, but it was dated back to 2007; I wondered if there was a newer fix than the one on that page, as it referenced the prior version of Hard-SPL. From the sounds of it, I have to install WM5 again, change the radio version (which was the only thing I need to adjust, as the voice calls have been a pain since day one), then reinstall all of my programs again.
I've heard people create ROMs. However, the radio settings can't be included in them . . . or am I off-base with that presumption? I am not that experienced to cook my own ROM, as I am still learning the nuances.

Well I broke down and went on AT&T's online chat. Sounds like there is no software to install to fix the issue. I hoped the radio version switch would help, but I couldn't get it to install! I guess it's back to the Replacement Depot on Sunday. I should return my device to WM5, which I hope to find the thread for on the board.
If interested, here's the key parts of the conversation:
Me: Hi, my 8525 is giving me trouble making and ending calls. It sometimes hangs, and doesn't quit trying to place the call. Once I reset it, it's fine until I try to end the call, it hangs up the call, but not showing so on my side
AT&T: Can you try hard shocking the phone for me please? A hard shock is taking the battery out while the phone is still powered on, and then power the phone back on once the battery is back in the phone.
Me: I received it as a reconditioned from the AT&T depot in Pittsburgh, PA. About 20 minutes later, it did the same thing, so I upgraded to WM6 and still the same issues
AT&T: If you continue to have these issues with this phone, you will need to take the phone back to the Device Support place where you got it from.
Me: Is that a common issue?
AT&T: Sometimes it is with at reconditioned phone.
. . .
AT&T does not have an update for the Windows Mobile 6 at this time. However you may check out HTC website at www.htcamerica.net/support/default.html and see if they have an update for this software for this phone.
Me: So it's the phone, not the software?
AT&T: Yes that is correct. There is a defect within the phone that is causing these issues. If you continue to have these issues with this phone, you will need to take the phone back to the Device Support place where you got it from.
Me: Are you able to explain what causes it that the Device Center doesn't catch it
AT&T: I am not sure what causes this issue.
Me: Like should there be anything done to prevent that from happening?
AT&T: It is hard to tell with reconditioned phones. It may be something that can be fixed and it may not. If the hard shock does not fix this issue and the Device Support cannot, then you will be given another phone.

ohpfan said:
My laptop has XP (Media Center Edition).
I've heard people create ROMs. However, the radio settings can't be included in them . . . or am I off-base with that presumption? I am not that experienced to cook my own ROM, as I am still learning the nuances.
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Ok, your signature is looking good and that is some conversation with good old at&t...bla bla bla
To answer your question above, the chefs cooked roms do not include radio (because everyone around the world uses a different one). But, the Official WM6 rom's do (posted wiki & wm 6 section). So, why don't u flash the official wm6 since u have hardspl now? This in itself may resolve u'r issue (if u don't get the driver pc 260 error)! why would u want to flash wm5?

I was going to return my 8525 to the Service Depot where I got it, is why I mentioned returning it back to WM5 status. However, I wanted to see if it could be fixed by software first, but considering the above online AT&T chat, I am definitely going to get it replaced again. So, I want the 8525 to not show my "3rd party software" to ruin the warranty. I had the 8525 to individually remove the CABs under Remove Programs, and then I did a Clear Memory to default for good measure. Hopefully the Service Depot won't say anything about the device being altered that way.
Oh yea, I am going to get it replaced on Thursday. I will try to get them to give me a new one, not a reconditioned. That is, if there are even any new ones around anymore! It'd be a miracle if they gave me a new 8925 Tilt instead . . . lol I know -- keep dreaming! Wish me luck with a new 8525 though!

Well, I exchanged my current 8525 for another reconditioned one. The repair guy actually asked if I heard of the xda website (for help with my device!), lol!! He didn't go into detail about what this site does, just asked if I heard about it, and I affirmed that I did. Possibly he found traces of programs that changed settings, but he didn't rat me out. He sounded like he was confident that he fixed the phone dialing issues, but gave me a new one "just in case".
As soon as he gave it to me, it booted right up, without the calibration screen. He flat out told me to calibrate it, but it didn't appear. I was trying to see if it would act up with the dialing again, but noticed it didn't save the numbers on my SIM! I then decided to get rid of the bloatware via the Clear Programs and that lead to the calibration screen, finally.
So far it seems to work fine! I made about 6 calls this time and they seem to end properly. There is a slight 30 second or so delay when I press the button with the "red phone symbol" [end call] before the screen lights up again though. Is that normal?
Oh, I've only loaded up S2u2 so far. I will reinsert the others onto my memory card today sometime before work.
Again, so far so good! Only real issue I see is that the ringer volume is very low when the device is in the carrying case I have it in. I will search on here for a ringer volume changer, soon!

Glad U were able to get another phone!
"red phone symbol" [end call] before the screen lights up again though. Is that normal?
No, should end in a few seconds...doesn't seem it's even assigned to the phone (U can use Schaps Advanced Config tool to do this and many more good tweeks).

galaxys said:
No, should end in a few seconds...doesn't seem it's even assigned to the phone (U can use Schaps Advanced Config tool to do this and many more good tweeks).
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The "end call" does it's job, just that the screen is dim then it takes like 30 seconds to brighten again to show that the call is ended. Possibly it's something I have set up wrong. I notice the blue backlight for the keypad doesn't light up until a minute of my typing on it for a text; it's like a delayed reaction.
(I have the unlimited text/pix/vid plan, as of this past Thursday.) A bit off-topic, but are the Yahoo, AOL, & MSN IM programs considered a text or do they use kilobytes of data? I could use the programs over the Wi-Fi if I had to, but I don't want to pay extra for data kilobytes.
Lastly, I have never downloaded the Schaps Configuration. What all settings should I change? I know it's mostly based on personal preference, but what are some common alterations using it? For instance, I set the alarm to wake up to, but it's only a short beep sound. If I really was sleepy, I would probably sleep right through it! Does this program (or any others) configure any song on my device to be the alarm? I've already done that to the ringtone (where the first 30 seconds of any song is my ringtone).

ohpfan said:
The "end call" does it's job, just that the screen is dim then it takes like 30 seconds to brighten again to show that the call is ended. Possibly it's something I have set up wrong. I notice the blue backlight for the keypad doesn't light up until a minute of my typing on it for a text; it's like a delayed reaction. check in Settings>System>Backlight & Keyboard Backlight.
(I have the unlimited text/pix/vid plan, as of this past Thursday.) A bit off-topic, but are the Yahoo, AOL, & MSN IM programs considered a text or do they use kilobytes of data? I could use the programs over the Wi-Fi if I had to, but I don't want to pay extra for data kilobytes. I don't use them, but it should be treated as MMS text.
Lastly, I have never downloaded the Schaps Configuration. What all settings should I change? I know it's mostly based on personal preference, but what are some common alterations using it? For instance, I set the alarm to wake up to, but it's only a short beep sound. If I really was sleepy, I would probably sleep right through it! Does this program (or any others) configure any song on my device to be the alarm? I've already done that to the ringtone (where the first 30 seconds of any song is my ringtone).
Schaps has a number of Performance, Power, UI settings, etc., but no alarm ringtones. U may not need Since u'r using HTweekC.
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see info above...

Touch HD 5 minute of your time please ?

Hi guys,
I humbly request 5 minute of your time,to make the following request.
Like many others, i have experienced a lot of critical problems with my HD, I therefore emailed HTC with a list of the most critical issues. However i doubt that they will take the feedback of one individual seriously.So what i ask of anyone who has any problem with their HD which is in fact a HTC problem to email them,with all the details of these issues. If we all work together in providing them with this feedback,then i am sure they will take it seriously,and hopefully address our issues.
Please use this link to send the feedback:
http://www.htc.com/www/CS_Mail.aspx
Here is some of the issues with my HD which i made them aware of:
"Good day,i have a few critical issues with my Touch HD which i would like to bring to your attention:
1. When my Touch HD is in standby it does not always notify me when a test message is received via a sound or a vibration.
2. I've got an appointment set up in Outlook on the PC for 7pm-11:30pm this evening. When I synchronized, the home screen on the HD says "Tomorrow 19:00 - 23:30" instead of "Today" If I tap the appointment on the home screen to enter the calendar program, it correctly shows under today's date, with nothing tomorrow.
3. I want my calendar view set to Month view. So I've chosen Month view form the options and everything seems OK. However, every time I choose calendar from the home screen it briefly starts in Month view, and then opens the agenda view.
4. In 99% of calls I make & receive, my calls are either dropped or disconnected, or there is noise in the signal, or either the other person can hear me but I am unable to hear the other person. I came to the conclusion that if I disable 3g all is fine, however I am not willing to accept this or any other solution where I have to disable features ,because I have paid a very large amount of money for this device, and I expect each and every feature to be working properly. I therefore friendly request that you look into this matter with the utmost urgency and come to a quick and effective resolution. "

I can tell what they are responding (short version):
"1. Please hardrest your device
2. If the issues are still present, send it to our technicians for repair."
Its a standard email answer if you are reporting with HTC devices.

i dont experience those problems, but then i use a cooked rom, maybe you should and then you will be happy with your HD

jonajuna said:
i dont experience those problems, but then i use a cooked rom, maybe you should and then you will be happy with your HD
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I believe problems 2&3 are win mobile problems, not device related, but, for the amount of money we pay for these devices we SHOULD get all the features working properly.
I experienced problem 1, the calls are working great, no problems whatsoever.

I experienced 2 & 3.. but not 1 & 4.

I have only experienced #3, but I think that is related to TF3D based on what I have read.

I could also recomend to hard reset your device.
Looks like you installed some third party software which could cause this problems.
Second problem which could be is the network problem. check with your operator.
and finaly upgrade your device with one of the cooked roms like dutty's hd extreme 2.1, (I'm happy with this rom)
good luck

if someone can tell them about camera driver,if they can speed up camera

regarding number 2:
this happens if the pc u sync ur fone with is having the rong time/date. check ur pc if it has the correct time zone, date and time set.. when synced, the date of your fone changes to that of the pc and if the pc is running one day behind, then your fone would do the same.. also, even if this happens, when u go check the calendar, the apointment would be on the date you created it on coz its nothing rong with the calendar, but the date of your fone when your syncd with a pc with the rong date/time..
hope this helps, please let know if you solved this problem. goodluck..

I have #1
And 10-15 texts after a reboot i only get vibration no sound, I do a reboot and sound is back on

Number 3 can be fixed using SSMaPa. Just remove the $ from the Arguments fields.

i have not experience those problem u mentioned yet...
hope i never will....
and all the best solving urs

I've gotta be honest I do not have any of those issues at all.

I am experience 2 offen.

My HTC HD2 issues. Any solutions?

hello everyone
i am since 1 week a proud owner of fhis device. And please understand, i choose this device after allot of research en review analyses. I love it,the way it looks, feels etc. However after 1 week of testing and intensive using i came across many small issues that do create some irritation and i wanted to know what to do to fix them. That is if there are fixes available besides resetting the phone everytime they occur.
My first problem is the lock screen. If my phone is locked for a while and i want to unlock it, there is somtimes a good chance that my phone gets stuck and all i can do is resetting it
by removing the battery. My second issue is, that somtimes my opera browser stops rotating to landscape mode. Fixing this requires a phone reboot. My final issue which is the biggest, when i use the youtube app allot. After a while of using the volume control bugs out. Wheb you change volumes during the video, the phone freezes a tiny bit and then a windows error message appears.
What i would like to know if i can fix these problems somehow or if anyone else has simillar experiece as me.
Finally, i would like to know if it is possible to play youtube movies on the standard webbrowser, opera. i got skyfire installed, but it seems very slow and buggy.
Thanks in advance for your time

Hi Hydrad,
Sorry to hear you are having problems. I didn't have any of these problems initially so I can't help you there. It would help however to know what your ROM is, and if you ever updated your ROM.
The ROM my HD2 came with was messy and there were a lot of bugs. I installed Miri's 6.5.x rom and i have no problems whatsoever.
If you haven't done a ROM update before, don't worry it is not that hard, just write here and Id be glad to help.
All the best,
sh.

Hydrad said:
hello everyone
i am since 1 week a proud owner of fhis device. And please understand, i choose this device after allot of research en review analyses. I love it,the way it looks, feels etc. However after 1 week of testing and intensive using i came across many small issues that do create some irritation and i wanted to know what to do to fix them. That is if there are fixes available besides resetting the phone everytime they occur.
My first problem is the lock screen. If my phone is locked for a while and i want to unlock it, there is somtimes a good chance that my phone gets stuck and all i can do is resetting it
by removing the battery. My second issue is, that somtimes my opera browser stops rotating to landscape mode. Fixing this requires a phone reboot. My final issue which is the biggest, when i use the youtube app allot. After a while of using the volume control bugs out. Wheb you change volumes during the video, the phone freezes a tiny bit and then a windows error message appears.
What i would like to know if i can fix these problems somehow or if anyone else has simillar experiece as me.
Finally, i would like to know if it is possible to play youtube movies on the standard webbrowser, opera. i got skyfire installed, but it seems very slow and buggy.
Thanks in advance for your time
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Follow the link in my signature for Flashing LEO Roms for noobs. Install HardSPL and then pick a rom from many available and flash it via activesync (usb). I would recommend Duttys WWE Rom in in sig to start withbut there are plenty of others that are worthy of flashing.
Flashing a custom rom will fix your freezing issues, fix your opera roatation problem and most include a youtube app to play yourtube videos directly rather than having to go through opera.
If you need anymore help then just shout as theres always people willing to lend there ear and share their knowledge.
Mark.

hi all. thank you for the replies.
i forgot to mention that i updated my rom already to 1.66. My htc is also not branded. I will follow the links you gave me. ty

A Must-Crash-Steps for HD2

This may be an interesting symptom... It came of my in-car radioset's broken. I have to listen to traffic news while driving using my HD2's FMRadio. I found exactly everytime after I got off my car, the very first incoming call or dialing call will result in no sound from the phone following by a crash of the system, and I have to soft-reset to get it back to work.
After several weeks of testing I think I have found this Must-Crash-Steps for HD2. The key point is that everytime before I got off my car, I pull out the earphone without manually exiting the FMRadio.
Firstly, I made these tests all under the latest official ROMs, which include:
RUU_Leo_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.66.707.1_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship.exe
RUU_Leo_hTC_Asia_TW_1.66.709.3_Radio_CRC_Signed_15.32.50.07U_2.07.51.22_2_Ship.exe
RUU_Leo_HKCSL_CHT_1.72.832.1_Radio_CRC_Signed_15.32.50.07U_2.07.51.22_2_Ship.exe
and, all tests were made right after a Hard-Reset, no default settings were changed and no 3rd-party apps were installed.
Here comes the Must-Crash-Steps: (in number order)
1, plug in the earphone, run FMRadio, when there's a radio-station broadcasting, switch the sound to device loudspeaker by pressing the "device-soundwave" icon on the screen.
2, leave the device alone until screen turn off automatically (yes, screen off, not just dim out. So far, the radio broadcast still can be heard from device loudspeaker), then, without pressing any button or touching the screen, pull the earphone out, the radio broadcast will shut off immediately.
3, as before, leave the device alone for about 1 minute, don't do anything, just wait.
4, now the Judgement-Time comes, pick up your phone, turn on the screen, unlock, make a call to anybody (toll-free number is recommended, when line connection establish, no sound can be heard. By now, the phone screen seems hangs, even if you press End Call, the calling icon on the top-bar is still on.
(notice: you can replace this 4th step by calling your HD2 from another phone)
5, Press the Home button, you may be able to toggle to Manila home page, but at this time, (1)you can't go back to Phone page (2)after some operations on Manilla screen (play music, for example), the whole system halts: no response neither touching the screen nor pressing the buttons.
Anybody interested can give it a test and please post your test result here along with what ROM you're using.
Finally, forgive my half-cooked English......

Very insteresting.
A lot of people has said that FM Radio was related to some freezes and slowliness of the HD2.
Maybe thos guys from HTC that wander around here from time to time can see your thread and do something about it.

You should email HTC support detailing the steps you have taken and ask them to officially investigate it...

Your English seems pretty good to me. I haven't tested this anomaly, but it doesn't surprise me. I've tried several "official" and cooked roms and all have their limitation/crashes, but this seems particularly strange.

Yes, I already did that and got below useless reply:
Dear huangyz，
Thank you for contacting HTC International.
We appreciate that you could report the information to us. We will help to forward to relvant department.
Thank you for your continuous support of our products and services. Should you require further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us again.
We look forward to be of service to you again.
HTC
Hotline: 1800 238 7788
Service Hours: 8 am - 8 pm, Monday - Saturday (except Public Holidays)
customer name: huangyz
email: ......
country: China
inquiry:
I've found a bug in HD2 with the latest ROM version. Please see below link for more:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650886
submit time: 2010/03/23 15:42

Ok, tried to make a phone call and indeed you cant hear anything, but it never froze.

I've been having trouble with the no ring in incoming call.
And I do pull out my headphones without closing FMRadio.
So is this the problem , how can I fix it ?

I did try it when I saw one similar post on a Chinese website. Luckily my mobile didn't freeze as expected. But HD2 does often crash, freeze unexpectedly. For me especially it freezes quite possible on two occasions: one is when you start you opera browser, the other is when you pick up to answer a coming call. But so far I haven't figured out what the root causes are. It is really annoying.

lepszy said:
Ok, tried to make a phone call and indeed you cant hear anything, but it never froze.
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No frozen? How about pressing the Home button followed by pressing the Dial button, could you re-enter the Phone screen? Or, slide to Music Tab, try playing a song, see whether the screen freeze...

niulj said:
I did try it when I saw one similar post on a Chinese website. Luckily my mobile didn't freeze as expected. But HD2 does often crash, freeze unexpectedly. For me especially it freezes quite possible on two occasions: one is when you start you opera browser, the other is when you pick up to answer a coming call. But so far I haven't figured out what the root causes are. It is really annoying.
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the similar post might be post by a similar human as me...
anyway, could you tell your ROM version please? or where can I download it for test.

Meiyo said:
I've been having trouble with the no ring in incoming call.
And I do pull out my headphones without closing FMRadio.
So is this the problem , how can I fix it ?
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In my case, you can still have the phone ring when there is an incoming call, but right after you pick up the phone and slide to "Answer", silent at all.
Since it is under an official rom environment, the simple way to "fix it" is: everytime after you finish listening FMRadio, EXIT the app before you pull out the earphone )

huangyz said:
the similar post might be post by a similar human as me...
anyway, could you tell your ROM version please? or where can I download it for test.
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yes I guess you are the one who posted the same problem in different forums.
My device information is:
OS version
5.2.21864(21864.5.0.81)
manila version
2.5.19202525.0
Rom version
1.43.405.1(70124) wwe
rom date
10/26/09
radio version
2.04.50.22_2
sorry i don't know where to download it, but i think you can find it very easily since it is an old rom version ( i got it last november and it could be the first batch of HD2s and i didn't flash any other roms.).

huangyz said:
This may be an interesting symptom... It came of my in-car radioset's broken. I have to listen to traffic news while driving using my HD2's FMRadio. I found exactly everytime after I got off my car, the very first incoming call or dialing call will result in no sound from the phone following by a crash of the system, and I have to soft-reset to get it back to work.
After several weeks of testing I think I have found this Must-Crash-Steps for HD2. The key point is that everytime before I got off my car, I pull out the earphone without manually exiting the FMRadio.
Firstly, I made these tests all under the latest official ROMs, which include:
RUU_Leo_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.66.707.1_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship.exe
RUU_Leo_hTC_Asia_TW_1.66.709.3_Radio_CRC_Signed_15.32.50.07U_2.07.51.22_2_Ship.exe
RUU_Leo_HKCSL_CHT_1.72.832.1_Radio_CRC_Signed_15.32.50.07U_2.07.51.22_2_Ship.exe
and, all tests were made right after a Hard-Reset, no default settings were changed and no 3rd-party apps were installed.
Here comes the Must-Crash-Steps: (in number order)
1, plug in the earphone, run FMRadio, when there's a radio-station broadcasting, switch the sound to device loudspeaker by pressing the "device-soundwave" icon on the screen.
2, leave the device alone until screen turn off automatically (so far, the radio broadcast still can be heard from device loudspeaker), then, without pressing any button or touching the screen, pull the earphone out, the radio broadcast will shut off immediately.
3, as before, leave the device alone for about 1 minute, don't do anything, just wait.
4, now the Judgement-Time comes, pick up your phone, turn on the screen, unlock, make a call to anybody (toll-free number is recommended, when line connection establish, no sound can be heard. By now, the phone screen seems hangs, even if you press End Call, the calling icon on the top-bar is still on.
(notice: you can replace this 4th step by calling your HD2 from another phone)
5, Press the Home button, you may be able to toggle to Manila home page, but at this time, (1)you can't go back to Phone page (2)after some operations on Manilla screen (play music, for example), the whole system halts: no response neither touching the screen nor pressing the buttons.
Anybody interested can give it a test and please post your test result here along with what ROM you're using.
Finally, forgive my half-cooked English......
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Wow, China Mobile. LOL

on to something not so completely different... I do have some problems that seem to appear when you take out the jack before closing the relevant app.
I use mortplayer in the car, and if I close the app before getting out of the car, and AFTER that I take out the jack, everything goes fine.
If instead I first take out the jack, as soon as I unlock the device to close mortplayer, all I see is windows media player opened for some weird reason on the playlist dialogue. I need to close that and access mortplayer to close it.

niulj said:
yes I guess you are the one who posted the same problem in different forums.
My device information is:
OS version
5.2.21864(21864.5.0.81)
manila version
2.5.19202525.0
Rom version
1.43.405.1(70124) wwe
rom date
10/26/09
radio version
2.04.50.22_2
sorry i don't know where to download it, but i think you can find it very easily since it is an old rom version ( i got it last november and it could be the first batch of HD2s and i didn't flash any other roms.).
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Thanks a lot!
I find that ROM in this forum. I'll download it and give it a try...

ljwnow said:
Wow, China Mobile. LOL
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are we the same?

ephestione said:
on to something not so completely different... I do have some problems that seem to appear when you take out the jack before closing the relevant app.
I use mortplayer in the car, and if I close the app before getting out of the car, and AFTER that I take out the jack, everything goes fine.
If instead I first take out the jack, as soon as I unlock the device to close mortplayer, all I see is windows media player opened for some weird reason on the playlist dialogue. I need to close that and access mortplayer to close it.
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"quietly expensive", LOL
I think your (device's) symptom can explain something that the Jack I/O driver does mess up with other system resources as in my case.

huangyz said:
Thanks a lot!
I find that ROM in this forum. I'll download it and give it a try...
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downloaded and flash the following rom:
RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.43.405.1_Radio_Signed_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50_22_2_Ship.exe
go through all the steps EXACTLY, it comes out the same result: CRASH.
the only tiny difference is, while call is made and no sound, press "End Call", the phone screen will close and go back to Manila Home automatically. (notice that under 1.66 and other ROM, I can't even End a Call)
This looks fine but the system actually goes nuts: first, you can't go back to phone screen again; secondly, you can't play music in Manila's Music tab; and finally, no response of the whole system.

huangyz said:
downloaded and flash the following rom:
RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.43.405.1_Radio_Signed_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50_22_2_Ship.exe
go through all the steps EXACTLY, it comes out the same result: CRASH.
the only tiny difference is, while call is made and no sound, press "End Call", the phone screen will close and go back to Manila Home automatically. (notice that under 1.66 and other ROM, I can't even End a Call)
This looks fine but the system actually goes nuts: first, you can't go back to phone screen again; secondly, you can't play music in Manila's Music tab; and finally, no response of the whole system.
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Confirmed. I am not an exception. Following your must-crash technique, my mobile also died immediately. That it didn't happen in my previous test could be because I didn't follow your procedure right.
It is really interesting. Should let HTC know about this.

niulj said:
Confirmed. I am not an exception. Following your must-crash technique, my mobile also died immediately. That it didn't happen in my previous test could be because I didn't follow your procedure right.
It is really interesting. Should let HTC know about this.
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Thanks for your reply!
Yes, I did report this to HTC.

[Q] Query for acer900 re Jazzman's Rom 1.3

Acer900
Don't know if you're still even active in these forums but just wanted to say a huge thank-you for your ROM and as I can't add a message in the developers forums yet, I wanted to add my thanks here!
It is the only custom rom I can currently DL for the S200 but it's absolutely amazing and its like being given a whole new phone to play with. Huge respect for you and your work and I hope you might not be entirely ready to give up on the phone just yet...
I do have one problem however. I flashed your rom from a "virgin" 3.003c firmware and enabled EZinput for full landscape mode. So far so good. everything worked until I went in to the camera - half screen viewfinder displayed, no icons at screen edge and (after 30-40 seconds) the display locked and no hard or soft keys were able to get me out of camera mode. I couldn't even get it to power off, I had to pull the battery and restart. I read in the developers forum that the camera is a source of problems and at one point brainmaster had posted a cab file to reinstall the acer default camera so I installed it and restarted the phone but when I went into the camera again, the exact same thing happened.
Other posts seem to suggest it may be an HTC keyboard/camera conflict but presumably many folk on custom roms got that camera to work to some degree.
Any suggestions you can offer? I don't need it to work perfectly. I don't take that many photos on the phone but I do use it occassionally and I can't use this as a daily rom if locks up every time I accidentally start the camera.
Thanks again. Really appreciate all of the hard work you've put in and this rom does really make an old device sing very sweetly once again.....
BelfastLad

BelfastLad said:
Acer900
Don't know if you're still even active in these forums but just wanted to say a huge thank-you for your ROM and as I can't add a message in the developers forums yet, I wanted to add my thanks here!
It is the only custom rom I can currently DL for the S200 but it's absolutely amazing and its like being given a whole new phone to play with. Huge respect for you and your work and I hope you might not be entirely ready to give up on the phone just yet...
I do have one problem however. I flashed your rom from a "virgin" 3.003c firmware and enabled EZinput for full landscape mode. So far so good. everything worked until I went in to the camera - half screen viewfinder displayed, no icons at screen edge and (after 30-40 seconds) the display locked and no hard or soft keys were able to get me out of camera mode. I couldn't even get it to power off, I had to pull the battery and restart. I read in the developers forum that the camera is a source of problems and at one point brainmaster had posted a cab file to reinstall the acer default camera so I installed it and restarted the phone but when I went into the camera again, the exact same thing happened.
Other posts seem to suggest it may be an HTC keyboard/camera conflict but presumably many folk on custom roms got that camera to work to some degree.
Any suggestions you can offer? I don't need it to work perfectly. I don't take that many photos on the phone but I do use it occassionally and I can't use this as a daily rom if locks up every time I accidentally start the camera.
Thanks again. Really appreciate all of the hard work you've put in and this rom does really make an old device sing very sweetly once again.....
BelfastLad
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First,
I'm glad that the rom is working for you, Thanks!
second,
I'm no longer actively building after my PC's Hd mysteriously crashed and I lost everything before that I was in the process of upgrading the rom to v.1.3.5
and trying to find a solution to the problem you're experiencing now.
It has nothing to do with the keyboard/camera relationship.
The Full Rotating phone canvas I used was developed for HD2 leo, not acerS200
meaning, it uses components native to the HD2 leo in this case, it's camera,video,full screen viewer etc... our problem w/S200 is that the camera,video,picture viewer etc.. being acer components,not HTC Leo's,
function using their own specs,dimensions, and most importantly, it's own resolutions and rotation based on those size resolutions.
I was experimenting with the phone canvas to see if there was a way to separate our acer camera,vid., but lost my HD... as a matter of fact,
I'm using a V.1.3.5 beta in my phone now that has parts of different phone canvas versions i.e. Raphael,Laurentius, Parts of caller ID fixes from laurentius too. But my testing was cut short and I haven't the time or desire to start all over again, sorry
So to finally answer your question, You must " uncheck" "EZinput" under G sensor settings for the camera and video to function properly.
Maybe one day I'll replace my PC's HD and try to cook again but I'm thinking
that it may be easier to buy an "acer stream"('cause I like acer) and see what
that's like.
Thanks

Thanks for the reply.
I really appreciate all the effort that went in to making something as good as this but appreciate that sometimes with technology we all just need to "move on".
I'll look forward to seeing your name (and efforts) pop up elsewhere in the forums.
Cheers.