This may be an interesting symptom... It came of my in-car radioset's broken. I have to listen to traffic news while driving using my HD2's FMRadio. I found exactly everytime after I got off my car, the very first incoming call or dialing call will result in no sound from the phone following by a crash of the system, and I have to soft-reset to get it back to work.
After several weeks of testing I think I have found this Must-Crash-Steps for HD2. The key point is that everytime before I got off my car, I pull out the earphone without manually exiting the FMRadio.
Firstly, I made these tests all under the latest official ROMs, which include:
RUU_Leo_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.66.707.1_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship.exe
RUU_Leo_hTC_Asia_TW_1.66.709.3_Radio_CRC_Signed_15.32.50.07U_2.07.51.22_2_Ship.exe
RUU_Leo_HKCSL_CHT_1.72.832.1_Radio_CRC_Signed_15.32.50.07U_2.07.51.22_2_Ship.exe
and, all tests were made right after a Hard-Reset, no default settings were changed and no 3rd-party apps were installed.
Here comes the Must-Crash-Steps: (in number order)
1, plug in the earphone, run FMRadio, when there's a radio-station broadcasting, switch the sound to device loudspeaker by pressing the "device-soundwave" icon on the screen.
2, leave the device alone until screen turn off automatically (yes, screen off, not just dim out. So far, the radio broadcast still can be heard from device loudspeaker), then, without pressing any button or touching the screen, pull the earphone out, the radio broadcast will shut off immediately.
3, as before, leave the device alone for about 1 minute, don't do anything, just wait.
4, now the Judgement-Time comes, pick up your phone, turn on the screen, unlock, make a call to anybody (toll-free number is recommended, when line connection establish, no sound can be heard. By now, the phone screen seems hangs, even if you press End Call, the calling icon on the top-bar is still on.
(notice: you can replace this 4th step by calling your HD2 from another phone)
5, Press the Home button, you may be able to toggle to Manila home page, but at this time, (1)you can't go back to Phone page (2)after some operations on Manilla screen (play music, for example), the whole system halts: no response neither touching the screen nor pressing the buttons.
Anybody interested can give it a test and please post your test result here along with what ROM you're using.
Finally, forgive my half-cooked English......
Very insteresting.
A lot of people has said that FM Radio was related to some freezes and slowliness of the HD2.
Maybe thos guys from HTC that wander around here from time to time can see your thread and do something about it.
You should email HTC support detailing the steps you have taken and ask them to officially investigate it...
Your English seems pretty good to me. I haven't tested this anomaly, but it doesn't surprise me. I've tried several "official" and cooked roms and all have their limitation/crashes, but this seems particularly strange.
Yes, I already did that and got below useless reply:
Dear huangyzļ¼
Thank you for contacting HTC International.
We appreciate that you could report the information to us. We will help to forward to relvant department.
Thank you for your continuous support of our products and services. Should you require further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us again.
We look forward to be of service to you again.
HTC
Hotline: 1800 238 7788
Service Hours: 8 am - 8 pm, Monday - Saturday (except Public Holidays)
customer name: huangyz
email: ......
country: China
inquiry:
I've found a bug in HD2 with the latest ROM version. Please see below link for more:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650886
submit time: 2010/03/23 15:42
Ok, tried to make a phone call and indeed you cant hear anything, but it never froze.
I've been having trouble with the no ring in incoming call.
And I do pull out my headphones without closing FMRadio.
So is this the problem , how can I fix it ?
I did try it when I saw one similar post on a Chinese website. Luckily my mobile didn't freeze as expected. But HD2 does often crash, freeze unexpectedly. For me especially it freezes quite possible on two occasions: one is when you start you opera browser, the other is when you pick up to answer a coming call. But so far I haven't figured out what the root causes are. It is really annoying.
lepszy said:
Ok, tried to make a phone call and indeed you cant hear anything, but it never froze.
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No frozen? How about pressing the Home button followed by pressing the Dial button, could you re-enter the Phone screen? Or, slide to Music Tab, try playing a song, see whether the screen freeze...
niulj said:
I did try it when I saw one similar post on a Chinese website. Luckily my mobile didn't freeze as expected. But HD2 does often crash, freeze unexpectedly. For me especially it freezes quite possible on two occasions: one is when you start you opera browser, the other is when you pick up to answer a coming call. But so far I haven't figured out what the root causes are. It is really annoying.
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the similar post might be post by a similar human as me...
anyway, could you tell your ROM version please? or where can I download it for test.
Meiyo said:
I've been having trouble with the no ring in incoming call.
And I do pull out my headphones without closing FMRadio.
So is this the problem , how can I fix it ?
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In my case, you can still have the phone ring when there is an incoming call, but right after you pick up the phone and slide to "Answer", silent at all.
Since it is under an official rom environment, the simple way to "fix it" is: everytime after you finish listening FMRadio, EXIT the app before you pull out the earphone )
huangyz said:
the similar post might be post by a similar human as me...
anyway, could you tell your ROM version please? or where can I download it for test.
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yes I guess you are the one who posted the same problem in different forums.
My device information is:
OS version
5.2.21864(21864.5.0.81)
manila version
2.5.19202525.0
Rom version
1.43.405.1(70124) wwe
rom date
10/26/09
radio version
2.04.50.22_2
sorry i don't know where to download it, but i think you can find it very easily since it is an old rom version ( i got it last november and it could be the first batch of HD2s and i didn't flash any other roms.).
huangyz said:
This may be an interesting symptom... It came of my in-car radioset's broken. I have to listen to traffic news while driving using my HD2's FMRadio. I found exactly everytime after I got off my car, the very first incoming call or dialing call will result in no sound from the phone following by a crash of the system, and I have to soft-reset to get it back to work.
After several weeks of testing I think I have found this Must-Crash-Steps for HD2. The key point is that everytime before I got off my car, I pull out the earphone without manually exiting the FMRadio.
Firstly, I made these tests all under the latest official ROMs, which include:
RUU_Leo_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.66.707.1_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship.exe
RUU_Leo_hTC_Asia_TW_1.66.709.3_Radio_CRC_Signed_15.32.50.07U_2.07.51.22_2_Ship.exe
RUU_Leo_HKCSL_CHT_1.72.832.1_Radio_CRC_Signed_15.32.50.07U_2.07.51.22_2_Ship.exe
and, all tests were made right after a Hard-Reset, no default settings were changed and no 3rd-party apps were installed.
Here comes the Must-Crash-Steps: (in number order)
1, plug in the earphone, run FMRadio, when there's a radio-station broadcasting, switch the sound to device loudspeaker by pressing the "device-soundwave" icon on the screen.
2, leave the device alone until screen turn off automatically (so far, the radio broadcast still can be heard from device loudspeaker), then, without pressing any button or touching the screen, pull the earphone out, the radio broadcast will shut off immediately.
3, as before, leave the device alone for about 1 minute, don't do anything, just wait.
4, now the Judgement-Time comes, pick up your phone, turn on the screen, unlock, make a call to anybody (toll-free number is recommended, when line connection establish, no sound can be heard. By now, the phone screen seems hangs, even if you press End Call, the calling icon on the top-bar is still on.
(notice: you can replace this 4th step by calling your HD2 from another phone)
5, Press the Home button, you may be able to toggle to Manila home page, but at this time, (1)you can't go back to Phone page (2)after some operations on Manilla screen (play music, for example), the whole system halts: no response neither touching the screen nor pressing the buttons.
Anybody interested can give it a test and please post your test result here along with what ROM you're using.
Finally, forgive my half-cooked English......
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Wow, China Mobile. LOL
on to something not so completely different... I do have some problems that seem to appear when you take out the jack before closing the relevant app.
I use mortplayer in the car, and if I close the app before getting out of the car, and AFTER that I take out the jack, everything goes fine.
If instead I first take out the jack, as soon as I unlock the device to close mortplayer, all I see is windows media player opened for some weird reason on the playlist dialogue. I need to close that and access mortplayer to close it.
niulj said:
yes I guess you are the one who posted the same problem in different forums.
My device information is:
OS version
5.2.21864(21864.5.0.81)
manila version
2.5.19202525.0
Rom version
1.43.405.1(70124) wwe
rom date
10/26/09
radio version
2.04.50.22_2
sorry i don't know where to download it, but i think you can find it very easily since it is an old rom version ( i got it last november and it could be the first batch of HD2s and i didn't flash any other roms.).
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Thanks a lot!
I find that ROM in this forum. I'll download it and give it a try...
ljwnow said:
Wow, China Mobile. LOL
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are we the same?
ephestione said:
on to something not so completely different... I do have some problems that seem to appear when you take out the jack before closing the relevant app.
I use mortplayer in the car, and if I close the app before getting out of the car, and AFTER that I take out the jack, everything goes fine.
If instead I first take out the jack, as soon as I unlock the device to close mortplayer, all I see is windows media player opened for some weird reason on the playlist dialogue. I need to close that and access mortplayer to close it.
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"quietly expensive", LOL
I think your (device's) symptom can explain something that the Jack I/O driver does mess up with other system resources as in my case.
huangyz said:
Thanks a lot!
I find that ROM in this forum. I'll download it and give it a try...
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downloaded and flash the following rom:
RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.43.405.1_Radio_Signed_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50_22_2_Ship.exe
go through all the steps EXACTLY, it comes out the same result: CRASH.
the only tiny difference is, while call is made and no sound, press "End Call", the phone screen will close and go back to Manila Home automatically. (notice that under 1.66 and other ROM, I can't even End a Call)
This looks fine but the system actually goes nuts: first, you can't go back to phone screen again; secondly, you can't play music in Manila's Music tab; and finally, no response of the whole system.
huangyz said:
downloaded and flash the following rom:
RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.43.405.1_Radio_Signed_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50_22_2_Ship.exe
go through all the steps EXACTLY, it comes out the same result: CRASH.
the only tiny difference is, while call is made and no sound, press "End Call", the phone screen will close and go back to Manila Home automatically. (notice that under 1.66 and other ROM, I can't even End a Call)
This looks fine but the system actually goes nuts: first, you can't go back to phone screen again; secondly, you can't play music in Manila's Music tab; and finally, no response of the whole system.
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Confirmed. I am not an exception. Following your must-crash technique, my mobile also died immediately. That it didn't happen in my previous test could be because I didn't follow your procedure right.
It is really interesting. Should let HTC know about this.
niulj said:
Confirmed. I am not an exception. Following your must-crash technique, my mobile also died immediately. That it didn't happen in my previous test could be because I didn't follow your procedure right.
It is really interesting. Should let HTC know about this.
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Thanks for your reply!
Yes, I did report this to HTC.
Related
I have the 8525 with WM6 installed. About 1 in 40 times, the End Call option doesn't display that the call ended (on my side). I attempt to still talk to the other person but I can't hear them, though. After about 2 minutes later, it finally ends the connection. I must do a soft reset to temporarily fix it; the only drawback is that the most previous call isn't shown as being made.
About 1 in 80 times, the call attempts to be made, but doesn't connect at all. I try to End Call, but it seems to "freeze" the screen. The "Close screen" seems to help, as in 30 seconds the device finally quits trying to connect.
Another thing I noticed, after the phone freezes, the antenna signal drops to zero and then returns to about 2 - 3 bars of signal, about 5 seconds later. I'm not sure if that is the cause of the phone hanging, or not. Is there any kind of software to resolve this issue? It's really annoying! Thanks for any help!
is that a cooked rom or official? what's your radio version and carrier?
I'm thinking u need a different radio verson...(u must have hardspl to flash another radio version)...
I got the 8525 as a reconditioned from AT&T about 3 weeks ago. It came with WM5, and I had the above calling issues back then too. I then was informed on the boards here to upgrade to WM6, which I downloaded from HTC, via the AT&T website link.
As for programs, I removed the AT&T "bloatware" via the hard reset trick. Later, I installed S2U2, HTC Streaming Media, HTweakC2.1b, and the PTTFix software. One other program on the 8525 is OCN8 -- for my iBlue 737 Bluetooth GPS device. There are no other files that I can recall, except maps, songs, internet .jpgs, and (camera) pictures/videos.
Settings:
ROM Version: 3.62.502.3
ROM Date: 10/11/07
Radio Version: 1.54.07.00
Protocol Version: 32.86u.7020.23H
I do appreciate and try to understand all of the replies that I receive, and I do try to respond within a timely manner. I understand that people are busy and may have other careers as well. However, the thing that makes me pull my hair out is when someone starts to assist my problem, then just ditches the thread after my reply, without so much as an "I'm sorry, but I'm not able to solve your problem" at the minimum! Normally, I give a 48 hour window for the helper or any more helpers to reply before I get frustrated, but it's been way past that timeframe now!
I've noticed that phenomenon on 3 of my prior posts, each are on different subjects. It seems that after the first reply, no one but the original helper responds! If that original helper is busy, or just forgets about the thread, then I'm screwed over.
Sorry to rant, but I tried looking all over the boards for the best Radio program. All I seem to find is best ROMs, but not really Radios. I've seen 2 other Radio programs in signatures, but I'm not sure what one would be best for my purposes. I've seen mention of 1.47.30 & 1.47.00.10 in some members' signatures, but I'm hesitant to just "trial and error" one, for fear it would damage my device. I currently have the WM6 default 1.54.07.00 version, but it freezes up on making some calls and more often on ending a current call.
Anyone else for ideas or opinions on what Radio program to use? Please back up your opinion with facts when possible. I am not an expert on the device, just a new user who is afraid to ruin my investment.
Much thanks to all who read this post and reply to it!
Hi, just saw your thread & did not know U were still hanging....
I would try radio 1.48.00.00 first, then 1.47.00.10 or 1.50.00.00 if necessary. Seem's a lot of at&t users liked 1.48 from what I noticed (don't forget hardspl - use mrvanx guide in the Mobile 6 forum section)...
Here's the 1.54 thread with pro's, con's, and 1.48 at&t comments...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334697&highlight=radio+1.48
galaxys said:
I would try radio 1.48.00.00 first, then 1.47.00.10 or 1.50.00.00 if necessary. Seem's a lot of at&t users liked 1.48 from what I noticed (don't forget hardspl - use mrvanx guide in the Mobile 6 forum section)...
Here's the 1.54 thread with pro's, con's, and 1.48 at&t comments...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334697&highlight=radio+1.48
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Thanks for the reply! I will do the hardspl first, then try to install the 1.48.00.00 Radio. I'll report back with details in a day or two.
My current Image Version is 3.62.502.3, and I am attempting to update it to 3.54.255.3.
I keep having errors while trying to install Radio Version 1.48.00.10 to my 8525, after opening RUU_Inside.exe on my laptop. I've even tried to install it from my microSD card, but I get the tri-color screen instead of the white background with text screen, shown in the online example. The 8525 ActiveSyncs to the computer fine, and the screen shows:
"Updating the ROM image on your PDA phone ...
Please do not remove the USB connection from the PDA Phone or launch any program during the update process.
Remember the operation will take about 10 minutes."
As soon as the above grey box pops up, ActiveSync drops after that box appears, then I get the following message:
"Error [260]: CONNECTION"
I've installed Hard-SPL v.7 onto the 8525 already. Not that it seems to make a difference, I believe, but other programs that are on it include: WMXL 8525 Keyboard Fix, S2U2 1.16, Resco Explorer 2008, PTTFix, MunduRadio, & HTweakC 2.1,
not sure, but did a "search" for error 260 & seems to be your pc usb port:
(use xda google search for any questions)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368624
btw, u are using XP & not Vista on u'r pc.
My laptop has XP (Media Center Edition). I did a search as well, but it was dated back to 2007; I wondered if there was a newer fix than the one on that page, as it referenced the prior version of Hard-SPL. From the sounds of it, I have to install WM5 again, change the radio version (which was the only thing I need to adjust, as the voice calls have been a pain since day one), then reinstall all of my programs again.
I've heard people create ROMs. However, the radio settings can't be included in them . . . or am I off-base with that presumption? I am not that experienced to cook my own ROM, as I am still learning the nuances.
Well I broke down and went on AT&T's online chat. Sounds like there is no software to install to fix the issue. I hoped the radio version switch would help, but I couldn't get it to install! I guess it's back to the Replacement Depot on Sunday. I should return my device to WM5, which I hope to find the thread for on the board.
If interested, here's the key parts of the conversation:
Me: Hi, my 8525 is giving me trouble making and ending calls. It sometimes hangs, and doesn't quit trying to place the call. Once I reset it, it's fine until I try to end the call, it hangs up the call, but not showing so on my side
AT&T: Can you try hard shocking the phone for me please? A hard shock is taking the battery out while the phone is still powered on, and then power the phone back on once the battery is back in the phone.
Me: I received it as a reconditioned from the AT&T depot in Pittsburgh, PA. About 20 minutes later, it did the same thing, so I upgraded to WM6 and still the same issues
AT&T: If you continue to have these issues with this phone, you will need to take the phone back to the Device Support place where you got it from.
Me: Is that a common issue?
AT&T: Sometimes it is with at reconditioned phone.
. . .
AT&T does not have an update for the Windows Mobile 6 at this time. However you may check out HTC website at www.htcamerica.net/support/default.html and see if they have an update for this software for this phone.
Me: So it's the phone, not the software?
AT&T: Yes that is correct. There is a defect within the phone that is causing these issues. If you continue to have these issues with this phone, you will need to take the phone back to the Device Support place where you got it from.
Me: Are you able to explain what causes it that the Device Center doesn't catch it
AT&T: I am not sure what causes this issue.
Me: Like should there be anything done to prevent that from happening?
AT&T: It is hard to tell with reconditioned phones. It may be something that can be fixed and it may not. If the hard shock does not fix this issue and the Device Support cannot, then you will be given another phone.
ohpfan said:
My laptop has XP (Media Center Edition).
I've heard people create ROMs. However, the radio settings can't be included in them . . . or am I off-base with that presumption? I am not that experienced to cook my own ROM, as I am still learning the nuances.
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Ok, your signature is looking good and that is some conversation with good old at&t...bla bla bla
To answer your question above, the chefs cooked roms do not include radio (because everyone around the world uses a different one). But, the Official WM6 rom's do (posted wiki & wm 6 section). So, why don't u flash the official wm6 since u have hardspl now? This in itself may resolve u'r issue (if u don't get the driver pc 260 error)! why would u want to flash wm5?
I was going to return my 8525 to the Service Depot where I got it, is why I mentioned returning it back to WM5 status. However, I wanted to see if it could be fixed by software first, but considering the above online AT&T chat, I am definitely going to get it replaced again. So, I want the 8525 to not show my "3rd party software" to ruin the warranty. I had the 8525 to individually remove the CABs under Remove Programs, and then I did a Clear Memory to default for good measure. Hopefully the Service Depot won't say anything about the device being altered that way.
Oh yea, I am going to get it replaced on Thursday. I will try to get them to give me a new one, not a reconditioned. That is, if there are even any new ones around anymore! It'd be a miracle if they gave me a new 8925 Tilt instead . . . lol I know -- keep dreaming! Wish me luck with a new 8525 though!
Well, I exchanged my current 8525 for another reconditioned one. The repair guy actually asked if I heard of the xda website (for help with my device!), lol!! He didn't go into detail about what this site does, just asked if I heard about it, and I affirmed that I did. Possibly he found traces of programs that changed settings, but he didn't rat me out. He sounded like he was confident that he fixed the phone dialing issues, but gave me a new one "just in case".
As soon as he gave it to me, it booted right up, without the calibration screen. He flat out told me to calibrate it, but it didn't appear. I was trying to see if it would act up with the dialing again, but noticed it didn't save the numbers on my SIM! I then decided to get rid of the bloatware via the Clear Programs and that lead to the calibration screen, finally.
So far it seems to work fine! I made about 6 calls this time and they seem to end properly. There is a slight 30 second or so delay when I press the button with the "red phone symbol" [end call] before the screen lights up again though. Is that normal?
Oh, I've only loaded up S2u2 so far. I will reinsert the others onto my memory card today sometime before work.
Again, so far so good! Only real issue I see is that the ringer volume is very low when the device is in the carrying case I have it in. I will search on here for a ringer volume changer, soon!
Glad U were able to get another phone!
"red phone symbol" [end call] before the screen lights up again though. Is that normal?
No, should end in a few seconds...doesn't seem it's even assigned to the phone (U can use Schaps Advanced Config tool to do this and many more good tweeks).
galaxys said:
No, should end in a few seconds...doesn't seem it's even assigned to the phone (U can use Schaps Advanced Config tool to do this and many more good tweeks).
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The "end call" does it's job, just that the screen is dim then it takes like 30 seconds to brighten again to show that the call is ended. Possibly it's something I have set up wrong. I notice the blue backlight for the keypad doesn't light up until a minute of my typing on it for a text; it's like a delayed reaction.
(I have the unlimited text/pix/vid plan, as of this past Thursday.) A bit off-topic, but are the Yahoo, AOL, & MSN IM programs considered a text or do they use kilobytes of data? I could use the programs over the Wi-Fi if I had to, but I don't want to pay extra for data kilobytes.
Lastly, I have never downloaded the Schaps Configuration. What all settings should I change? I know it's mostly based on personal preference, but what are some common alterations using it? For instance, I set the alarm to wake up to, but it's only a short beep sound. If I really was sleepy, I would probably sleep right through it! Does this program (or any others) configure any song on my device to be the alarm? I've already done that to the ringtone (where the first 30 seconds of any song is my ringtone).
ohpfan said:
The "end call" does it's job, just that the screen is dim then it takes like 30 seconds to brighten again to show that the call is ended. Possibly it's something I have set up wrong. I notice the blue backlight for the keypad doesn't light up until a minute of my typing on it for a text; it's like a delayed reaction. check in Settings>System>Backlight & Keyboard Backlight.
(I have the unlimited text/pix/vid plan, as of this past Thursday.) A bit off-topic, but are the Yahoo, AOL, & MSN IM programs considered a text or do they use kilobytes of data? I could use the programs over the Wi-Fi if I had to, but I don't want to pay extra for data kilobytes. I don't use them, but it should be treated as MMS text.
Lastly, I have never downloaded the Schaps Configuration. What all settings should I change? I know it's mostly based on personal preference, but what are some common alterations using it? For instance, I set the alarm to wake up to, but it's only a short beep sound. If I really was sleepy, I would probably sleep right through it! Does this program (or any others) configure any song on my device to be the alarm? I've already done that to the ringtone (where the first 30 seconds of any song is my ringtone).
Schaps has a number of Performance, Power, UI settings, etc., but no alarm ringtones. U may not need Since u'r using HTweekC.
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see info above...
Can anyone provide a link for the new T-Mobile US rom that was just released?
did you mean http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636387
RUU_Leo_1_5_TMOUS_2.10.531.0_Radio_Signed_15.34.50 .07U_2.08.50.08_2_Ship
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if you mean newer release please give more version information
Gurgulio said:
did you mean http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636387
RUU_Leo_1_5_TMOUS_2.10.531.0_Radio_Signed_15.34.50 .07U_2.08.50.08_2_Ship
please use search button
if you mean newer release please give more version information
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The new stock ROM has a slightly different version, but I'm sure is very similar:
2.10.531.1 (82076) WWE
Radio ROM version appears to be the same
2.08.50.08_2
biscuits1978 said:
The new stock ROM has a slightly different version, but I'm sure is very similar:
2.10.531.1 (82076) WWE
Radio ROM version appears to be the same
2.08.50.08_2
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I'd be interested to see a dump of the actual final ROM, even if there are only minor changes, they could squeeze out a bit of performance somehow.
Is there already one posted somewhere?
I'll dump mine if I knew how . I'll read up.
its so buggy and laggy with only 3 apps running...
and also wondering wth it is when I press the back button fast it corrupts the bottom bar
aswell as loading tons of images it crashes the gallery app....
Yeah, I think this is the one I was after. Is this the final shipped ROM from the US version on the 24th?
death1246 said:
its so buggy and laggy with only 3 apps running...
and also wondering wth it is when I press the back button fast it corrupts the bottom bar
aswell as loading tons of images it crashes the gallery app....
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Yeah this is pretty bad-- I've had the phone for just two days now, but it's lagging all throughout, I can't run more than a couple of apps without major slowdowns, and even with no apps running and a fresh boot, it has issues.
It can't even play the Transformers movies that came with the phone without stuttering.
Earlier today, the volume rocker stopped working and somehow turned into a scroll wheel (it'd slowly move up and down in whatever was selected instead of adjusting volume).
The phone also has lots of issues where it won't come back after the screen is turned off (or will take 30 sec or more), and it seems sometimes the bottom buttons just don't work, or something freezes up. Then for a while I wasn't able to call anyone-- I could get into people's profiles in contacts, but tapping on the phone number would do nothing. It's also locked up on a few occasions while showing that services.exe or other processes crashed.
Also, not sure how related this is to the ROM, but I have voice quality issues-- people on the other end report hearing lots of background noise even in relatively quite environments, and to me they sound a bit muffled / put through a cheap speaker.
In any case, this is not a ROM anyone would voluntarily want to put on their phone.
Hi Does anybody know where the HTC HD2, TMO-US 1024 GB version "2.10.531.1" ROM is???
Will this ROM work on my T-Mobile HD2 from Germany with HSPL2 installed?
HD2 Freezing issues...
amb9800 said:
Yeah this is pretty bad-- I've had the phone for just two days now, but it's lagging all throughout, I can't run more than a couple of apps without major slowdowns, and even with no apps running and a fresh boot, it has issues.
It can't even play the Transformers movies that came with the phone without stuttering.
Earlier today, the volume rocker stopped working and somehow turned into a scroll wheel (it'd slowly move up and down in whatever was selected instead of adjusting volume).
The phone also has lots of issues where it won't come back after the screen is turned off (or will take 30 sec or more), and it seems sometimes the bottom buttons just don't work, or something freezes up. Then for a while I wasn't able to call anyone-- I could get into people's profiles in contacts, but tapping on the phone number would do nothing. It's also locked up on a few occasions while showing that services.exe or other processes crashed.
Also, not sure how related this is to the ROM, but I have voice quality issues-- people on the other end report hearing lots of background noise even in relatively quite environments, and to me they sound a bit muffled / put through a cheap speaker.
In any case, this is not a ROM anyone would voluntarily want to put on their phone.
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I am having the exact same issues as you with the phone freezing when locked down as well as unable to make calls from contact lists or even ending calls from the "end call" on screen button. By any chance did you find a fix to this? The new ROM did nothing for me.
actually t mobile usa should had sent you a new message a few days ago for the update. its confusing because its all the same version package, just fixed these issues. i hated the first update, and i started myself because my graphic's driver was laggy and the touch controls were not usable. I installed this new one, and its fine!! not a problem yet!!!
Hello Guys,
I am posting here because I have this strange bug for a couple of weeks now.
I'm hoping someone had the same bug and could identify where it comes from. Or which app may cause this?
* Sometimes, when I want to make a phone call, my HD2 freezes.
* It apparently makes the phone call, but the screen is blocked, I can do nothing, and I cannot hear the callee. I cannot end the phone call.
* The callee can hear me.
* After 10 seconds my HD2 shuts down by itself and restarts automatically.
* Everytime it restarts this way, the Time is changed and is wrong.
It happened to me around 10 times already.
If any one of you had the same bug and could help this would be greatly appreciated.
Could any third app cause this. Actually it happens even if no application is running!
Thanks in advance.
My ROM is Miri WM 6.5.x v17.
Significant third party applications or Tweaks are :
Co0kie's Home Tab 1.8.5 and CHT Editor,
Ameba + Ameba Launcher + Ameba Settings
Kinoma Play, CorePlayer, Ruttensoft Cloudfiles,
AE Button Plus, SK Tools
Batti, Skyfire, CSMI,G-Alarm, SPB Time
Some Touch-X tweaks (power management, Wifi N, speed up scrolling, Opera max memory, smoothness, 6 tabs, etc...)
The problem is recent and the only apps I added recently are Ruttensoft and G-Alarm.
friendly bump
I've got the same problem on mine with Dutty's HG v.2.9 & 3.0. I've only noticed it on Bluetooth with a Motorola H17 headset... I've recently updated to HG 3.1 and will not use that particular Bluetooth anymore... Hopefully that fixes it
I have the same problem. This phone (hardware) is the best phone on the market but you know what. Windows Mobile frickin blows. I get so upset cause my phone always freezes and I have to turn it off and on, or even take the battery out.
I honestly may ditch this hunk of junk and get a my touch slide, that is how unhappy i am with this operating system. How anyone could like windows mobile is beyond me.
If it's any help I'm on Dutty's 3.1 HG, with Cookie's HT and Editor, with Microsoft Voice Command installed, Coreplayer, Omarket, Def's Taskbar, Chris middle lock screen slider, Total Commander and PHM installed... (with other things that escape me now)
I'm currently on a call on BLUETOOTH with the BlueAnt S4 right now and going on 16minutes and received 5 emails and checked the weather and played around on my home screen and it has not frozen at all... I honestly believe it may be the Motorola Bluetooth that is messing it up.
The only other thing it can be is my car stereo's USB connection for music might be corrupting it as well... we'll see about that
(17 minutes now!!! *CROSSES FINGERS**)
Lasabar said:
If it's any help I'm on Dutty's 3.1 HG, with Cookie's HT and Editor, with Microsoft Voice Command installed, Coreplayer, Omarket, Def's Taskbar, Chris middle lock screen slider, Total Commander and PHM installed... (with other things that escape me now)
I'm currently on a call on BLUETOOTH with the BlueAnt S4 right now and going on 16minutes and received 5 emails and checked the weather and played around on my home screen and it has not frozen at all... I honestly believe it may be the Motorola Bluetooth that is messing it up.
The only other thing it can be is my car stereo's USB connection for music might be corrupting it as well... we'll see about that
(17 minutes now!!! *CROSSES FINGERS**)
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Scratch that... froze @ 20'00'' on the dot... frick
Thanks All for your answers and feedback.
I am not using Bluetooth. So I guess this is not the cause.
Apparently it is not ROM related (Miri roms are knows to be very stable and the problem also appears on Dutty's Roms)
So I have the feeling that it may be caused by a 3rd party application.
Ameba ? Co0kie's Home Tab ? I don't know...
I keep my fingers crossed. Maybe someone has the solution
There's a thread on the boards now about phone freezing/hard resetting and they reference Task29.exe...
I've not know about this and just performed it and put back on Dutty's Rom and we'll see...
S... It happened to me again this morning.
Don't know what to do. Could this Task29.exe. procedure really solve my problem? Gonna try.
Hi, in the past i've this problem :
when an incoming call, the phone freezes and suddenly forced to make a soft reset.
have you installed HD2 tweak?
For my part, this problem due the option of the phone's response time before an incoming call, it should not modify.
i 've done a hard reset because impossible to call or receive a call, even having given the option as original.
Perhaps, that would resolve you're matter
hi... same problem as here..
my phone restart once in coreplayer, next time in igo, next time in settings tab... i dont know what is it..
i flash back the stock rom ... but dont help...
i belive its not device bug or bad sector in phone...
maybe its can do same appl. waht we installed..
i think its can be chainafaier driver or leocpuspeed...
but its only id...
thanks for the feedback and tips.
actually i am not using BSB tweaks, Leo CPU speed or Chainfire driver.
so the problem probably comes from another application.
Are you using Microsoft Voice Command?
I'm racking my brain as to why mine can't make a call..
I've installed the STOCK ROM 1.66 and it's stable as all get out, but I've installed nothing else... and my phone just got done with a hour and fifteen minute conference call no problem
no, I didn't....
if only i could discover what creates the problem
freezing
Dont know if you have the same issue, i got mine sorted (shutting down fm radio properly and not just pulling the head set out) after reading this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618621&page=2
Guys are you sure you have the right radio flashed?
I've had this problem too, and a new radio/reflash of the radio fixed it.
I flashed back to the stock telstra rom/radio and couldn't get past a call in 5 minutes
I flashed another Radio.
And so far the problem did not occur again.
May work . Thanks lonelykatana.
Unfortunately, the problem is still here.
I make a phone call and my phone freezes
Cannot believe I'm the only one
arturobandini, you are not the only one. I just got my HD2 4 days ago. I have gotten like 10 freezes already during calls. The phone wont let me unlock. This phone and with windows mobile must be the worst phone on the market. I cam from iPhone that thing has never failed me for 2 years. I HATE WM6.5 but i am stuck on T-Mobile for 2 years sigh...
So Im VERY new to this, first Windows Mobile phone. And this is my first post.
Right after receiving my HD2, I was disappointed with my purchase. I loved my Android powered G1, and fell in love with HTC. But when I got my HD2, the texting was terrible, and my phone kept freezing. After talking with a few friends about this, I was referred to this site.
From there, I did some research, and have learned a little bit. I decided to upgrade the ROM to the stock T-Mobile 2.13, through a link I found on this site. At the same time, I loved the interface of the CHT and CHTE, so I loaded those. Also, at the recommendation of Cookie's thread, I loaded Chainfire HD2 3D Driver Patch V2.0.
Well everything feels better, Ive started using Swype, and I havent had any freezing issues. I couldnt be happier...
But I recently notice (I dont do many phone calls, or talking. Im more web, email, and text) my incoming call screen isnt popping up. My phone will ring, I pull the phone out, and I see my home screen, and it is unlocked, like it should be when an incoming call comes through. I start tapping on the screen, and where I tap, icons/buttons start popping up. The "Mute" button, the "Answer/Ignore" bar, and SOMETIMES the caller's ID pic (if Im lucky enough for it to be someone who has a pic).
Now, this doesnt happen ALWAYS, but it does happen here and there. Ive also noticed, that the function that blacks/locks the screen when in call, against your face is running funny.
Does anyone know if this is related to my ROM? The 3D Driver Patch? CHT? Has anyone had anything similar???
I DID do a search, but only in this TMOus HD2 General sub forum. Should I be looking else where? Sorry for such a novel. I just felt that I should provide any possibly necessary info, since Im kind of clueless to this phone modifying world.
TIA.
Hmm...if it were me I'd definitely start with uninstalling that video driver and see if that changes the behavior.
Also, are you using the stock lockscreen or do you have CHT lockscreen enabled via CHTE? If you do have CHT's enabled, then next you might want to switch it off and see if it helps.
I don't know for sure that either of those will resolve that, but that's where I'd start troubleshooting.
After your new rom finished flashing, did you perform a manual hard reset (as recommended by most chefs)?
I've found that there is more chance of the rom being unstable if you dont.
(flashes dont always take first time, no clue why, but i'd estimate about 1 in 10 flashes just isn't stable, yet the next flash with the same rom is stable, , , I've also noted similar results when installing an OS on my PC, , , sometimes it just doesnt wanna take properly.)
theidealone said:
So Im VERY new to this, first Windows Mobile phone. And this is my first post.
Right after receiving my HD2, I was disappointed with my purchase. I loved my Android powered G1, and fell in love with HTC. But when I got my HD2, the texting was terrible, and my phone kept freezing. After talking with a few friends about this, I was referred to this site.
From there, I did some research, and have learned a little bit. I decided to upgrade the ROM to the stock T-Mobile 2.13, through a link I found on this site. At the same time, I loved the interface of the CHT and CHTE, so I loaded those. Also, at the recommendation of Cookie's thread, I loaded Chainfire HD2 3D Driver Patch V2.0.
Well everything feels better, Ive started using Swype, and I havent had any freezing issues. I couldnt be happier...
But I recently notice (I dont do many phone calls, or talking. Im more web, email, and text) my incoming call screen isnt popping up. My phone will ring, I pull the phone out, and I see my home screen, and it is unlocked, like it should be when an incoming call comes through. I start tapping on the screen, and where I tap, icons/buttons start popping up. The "Mute" button, the "Answer/Ignore" bar, and SOMETIMES the caller's ID pic (if Im lucky enough for it to be someone who has a pic).
Now, this doesnt happen ALWAYS, but it does happen here and there. Ive also noticed, that the function that blacks/locks the screen when in call, against your face is running funny.
Does anyone know if this is related to my ROM? The 3D Driver Patch? CHT? Has anyone had anything similar???
I DID do a search, but only in this TMOus HD2 General sub forum. Should I be looking else where? Sorry for such a novel. I just felt that I should provide any possibly necessary info, since Im kind of clueless to this phone modifying world.
TIA.
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I read somewhere that the "unleaked official ROM" caused more problems than it was worth. I got the 2.13 ROM on the leaked version before it was made official and it has been working great since. I read that they made more changes and then made it official and that it was causing phones to be bricked and most phones ended up worse than they where before the the upgrade. The only "negative" thing i experienced was the screen sensitivity but it appears that the cab featured in the sticky at the top of the post fixed that!? Kinda strange If all else fails Factory Reset and try again. I always like to take a baseline reading. When my phone began acting screwy I would restore and run it stock for a few days to see if problems persisted...then after about three or four days slowly begin installing things...
Thanks for the responses! I will start with sirphunkee's suggestions. As I was typing, I started thinking the Driver Patch was a good possibility. Also, I have noticed that the phone doesnt just "sleep" the screen when I put the phone to my face, it locks. Im assuming this is something to do with CHTE's lock, because as sirphunkee mentioned, I am using the CHTE lock, instead of the stock.
Im going to start there, and see what happens.
Also, I did NOT do a manual hard reset. How would I go about doing so (yes, Im a HUGE noob. More of a car guy)? Im hoping I wont need to do this, as Im assuming I will need to restore all of my contacts, reorganize them, and reset everything else, as if the phone were new out of the box... Correct? But in case that is necessary, how do I do so?
As far as the leaked or official version... I couldnt find it on T-Mobile's site. I read a thread here, where it had been there then removed, due to people having issues with the download. I then was searching Swype or something, same forum, and found another thread, where someone had a link to the download through T-Mobile. Kinda hard to explain, but I will see if I can find the link, and the thread.
Thanks again guys! I really appreciate it. And thanks for taking it easy on me.
I just tried to post the links. I found them in my browser History. But because I have such a new account, I cant post.
theidealone said:
I just tried to post the links. I found them in my browser History. But because I have such a new account, I cant post.
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Thanks for the effort though, you'll be able to put up links after just a few more posts (it's listed in the forum rules...hint, hint). Also, toreone already threw up a new thread in this section with that link for everybody, so don't sweat that
EDIT: oops, missed the rest of your questions there. The hard-reset is exactly what you said...resets the phone to factory-fresh condition. Yes, contacts will have to be reapplied, but sorting really shouldn't be an issue depending on your method of backing up and restoring them. I highly recommend using the built-in Microsoft Myphone utility for that (and it's wise to let it back them up regularly too, just in case, I just have mine set to do it each night while it's charging).
You can perform a hard-reset a couple of ways:
1. on your settings tab, hit "menu", then "all settings", then "system". You'll find an icon in there titled "clear storage". Run that, use 1234 as the code, and it will do its deed.
2. with the phone powered off, hold both the vol up and down buttons at the same time, and then press the end/power button to turn it back on, then it will take you into the same hard-reset process as the first method.
Hi All
I saw that someone else had a similar problem, but did not get any definite answer - So Im asking too.
In the last few days I started playing with installing Android on my HD2.
(European HD2 with latest Official WM6.5 ROM).
My problem is as follows:
I boot to Android system (clscad then haret),
Android boots,
everything seems to work ok for the first few seconds.
After these few seconds, the sound stops working.
I tried several NativeSD and SD android versions.
All showed the same behavior.
If I boot to Android again, I get these few seconds of sound again.
Did anyone had this problem and knows how to resolve it ?
Many Thanks in advance.
Som30ne said:
Hi All
I saw that someone else had a similar problem, but did not get any definite answer - So Im asking too.
In the last few days I started playing with installing Android on my HD2.
(European HD2 with latest Official WM6.5 ROM).
My problem is as follows:
I boot to Android system (clscad then haret),
Android boots,
everything seems to work ok for the first few seconds.
After these few seconds, the sound stops working.
I tried several NativeSD and SD android versions.
All showed the same behavior.
If I boot to Android again, I get these few seconds of sound again.
Did anyone had this problem and knows how to resolve it ?
Many Thanks in advance.
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Ah, clrcad and haret, so much memories.
I'm not giving you a definite answer, I'm just guessing. clrcad is what makes the phone have sound, try a different file (from a different source). I remember the very old versions of sd android have flawless sound, you might want to dig them up and try using their clrcad. Also, try turning on airplane mode on windows mobile before booting into android, see what happens.
Marvlesz said:
Ah, clrcad and haret, so much memories.
I'm not giving you a definite answer, I'm just guessing. clrcad is what makes the phone have sound, try a different file (from a different source). I remember the very old versions of sd android have flawless sound, you might want to dig them up and try using their clrcad. Also, try turning on airplane mode on windows mobile before booting into android, see what happens.
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Thanks for the reply.
I tried your advice, sadly, it did not help.
Some more investigating revealed the following:
If before doing anything used the Volume up-down buttons, and as long as I had the volume slider on screen,
the device was audiable, and played the volume tone up and down.
The moment I let it disappear - I lost the audio completely.
If I did anything else I only had the first tap sound, and then silence.
So I think that only a single app can take over the sound device, and even that - only once.
Again - anyone have any idea how to resolve this ?
So - some findings -
Since pretty much everybody says it works perfectly for them,
I tried playing with this a little (I believe 3 hours is a little).
I tried isolating the cause for this phenomenon.
Tried removing/installing apps (on the WM),
Tried hard reset, and eventually I found that when I turn screen tap sound on in WM
(Setting->Menu->All Settings->Sound and Notifications->Check all check-boxes)
Android audio is stopped after a few moments/after the first Android App, accessed the sound device and closed it.
I would be thankful if someone can verify this finding.
(Set his/her device to sound screen taps sound,
Reboot the device with Screen Taps On,
run Android, and see if/when sound is lost)
If this is verified, perhaps some one who develops Android ROMs for HD2 could investigate.
(I like my screen tap sounds in WM,
It would sadden me to lose them)
Som30ne said:
Since pretty much everybody says it works perfectly for them,
I tried playing with this a little (I believe 3 hours is a little).
I tried isolating the cause for this phenomenon.
Tried removing/installing apps (on the WM),
Tried hard reset, and eventually I found that when I turn screen tap sound on in WM
(Setting->Menu->All Settings->Sound and Notifications->Check all check-boxes)
Android audio is stopped after a few moments/after the first Android App, accessed the sound device and closed it.
I would be thankful if someone can verify this finding.
(Set his/her device to sound screen taps sound,
Reboot the device with Screen Taps On,
run Android, and see if/when sound is lost)
If this is verified, perhaps some one who develops Android ROMs for HD2 could investigate.
(I like my screen tap sounds in WM,
It would sadden me to lose them)
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So - Can anyone try this and say if this phenomenon happens to him/her as well ?