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HTC Denying that the HD2 has a text message problem

I have been in contact with HTC about my HD2 and the text message lag when opening up a text when you have more than 50 txt;'s from them, And the answer i got was to do a hard reset cos something is messed up then to update my ROM and lastley when i have said i have doen that they said to sent it them for repair. I mean Come on HTC help us out

Do you have the unit on conversation mode?
I notice it lags when arranging the conversations, so I either keep on top of the amount of messages I have or switch to 'traditional mode'
Not ideal, but avoids the lag.

yea i using the convo mode i like that, I never had a lag issue with the convo mode in wm6.1 on my diamond

Ah right, first HTC for me, so thought it was to be expected. Guess there really is a problem then.
Shame really as conversation mode is nice, but only the other day I had to clear texts between me and my mrs as it was over 100 and the time to tap the screen to reply was anything up to about 15 seconds

m0j0j0j0123 said:
Ah right, first HTC for me, so thought it was to be expected. Guess there really is a problem then.
Shame really as conversation mode is nice, but only the other day I had to clear texts between me and my mrs as it was over 100 and the time to tap the screen to reply was anything up to about 15 seconds
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Yea i dunno if the us tmobile version will have the same problem will have to wait and see but it is defo an issue with the htc messaging app in win 6.5

jsmith_00 said:
yea i using the convo mode i like that, I never had a lag issue with the convo mode in wm6.1 on my diamond
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Same here, on the Diamond they put message son pages, so you had about 15 message son a page, and had the option to view older ones...why did they remove that??? :S

what rom are you using and have you applied the sms hotfix?

Richy99 said:
what rom are you using and have you applied the sms hotfix?
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am using the newest 1.66 from the htc site so the hot fix does not apply

what a piece of junk
mine is mid east 1.48...hard reset twice (freeze)
now it says problem with manila
though its 100% stock
and it takes ages to download the updated ROM from htc junksite..very slow
whats surprising is that this ultramegasuperduper smartphone has no automatic update button...you have to go the htc junksite and download it to pc, connect cable etc etc..sounds very 2001?? what happened with OTA update?
its dissapointing...i keep on dreaming about my nexus one and palm pre..

iwang said:
what a piece of junk
mine is mid east 1.48...hard reset twice (freeze)
now it says problem with manila
though its 100% stock
and it takes ages to download the updated ROM from htc junksite..very slow
whats surprising is that this ultramegasuperduper smartphone has no automatic update button...you have to go the htc junksite and download it to pc, connect cable etc etc..sounds very 2001?? what happened with OTA update?
its dissapointing...i keep on dreaming about my nexus one and palm pre..
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Must admit you have some points there with the updates, but I disagree with 'junk'
What made you get a hd2 if you are still dreaming of pre's and nx1s

i am working abroad now...i got my treo pro (wm 6.1 but at least it works with 1500mah battery, built by htc, excellent built quality)...
i left my nexus one and pre cdma back home..
i bought the hd2 at the airport, just trying it out, been searching about it for sometime, hope it is the ultimate phone...turns out the other way around !!!
it DOES look like windows 95, indeed..don't you agree? just peel up the HTC SENSELESS then you'll see windows 95 haha
windows didn't work..next time we all try the door instead
there goes 700USD down the drain!!!

iwang said:
i am working abroad now...i got my treo pro (wm 6.1 but at least it works with 1500mah battery, built by htc, excellent built quality)...
i left my nexus one and pre cdma back home..
i bought the hd2 at the airport, just trying it out, been searching about it for sometime, hope it is the ultimate phone...turns out the other way around !!!
it DOES look like windows 95, indeed..don't you agree? just peel up the HTC SENSELESS then you'll see windows 95 haha
windows didn't work..next time we all try the door instead
there goes 700USD down the drain!!!
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So you are saying that you are using 6.1, yet saying that 6.5 looks ugly under the Sense UI?

yes the tmo us hd2 has issues too.
the main one for me is that every night between midnight and 1 am texts come in as if they are from "yesterday" at the same time so i have to scroll up the chat to find them.
the other issue is if someone replies the same minute as i send they show up before the sent message

rp-x1 said:
So you are saying that you are using 6.1, yet saying that 6.5 looks ugly under the Sense UI?
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the 6.1 is beyond comprehension these days, but back then treo pro is a revelation compared with BB (no touchscreen, symbian-like OS)..
nowadays after using my N1 and palm pre, treo pro and wm 6.1 is indeed dated..very dated....
6,5 with SENSELESS is fine, but once you peel SENSELESS, you are back into windows-95 esque interface..try to tap on the wm screen..even selecting drop down option is difficult enough for me...of course its a revelation compared to 6.1, but its hell if you comes from N1..
anyway i have to get along with this HD2..we haven't talk about battery life just yet

jsmith_00 said:
I have been in contact with HTC about my HD2 and the text message lag when opening up a text when you have more than 50 txt;'s from them, And the answer i got was to do a hard reset cos something is messed up then to update my ROM and lastley when i have said i have doen that they said to sent it them for repair. I mean Come on HTC help us out
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For the record, my iPhone lags like hell when loading long strings of texts in a conversation format too....in fact, it seems to slow the whole damn phone down and can cause it to crash at times.
The point is, stringing texts into a conversation format hogs up a lot of processing power. Empty out your texts regularly

lbhocky19 said:
yes the tmo us hd2 has issues too.
the main one for me is that every night between midnight and 1 am texts come in as if they are from "yesterday" at the same time so i have to scroll up the chat to find them.
the other issue is if someone replies the same minute as i send they show up before the sent message
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Yeah I have that problems too! Very annoying sometimes

iwang said:
the 6.1 is beyond comprehension these days, but back then treo pro is a revelation compared with BB (no touchscreen, symbian-like OS)..
nowadays after using my N1 and palm pre, treo pro and wm 6.1 is indeed dated..very dated....
6,5 with SENSELESS is fine, but once you peel SENSELESS, you are back into windows-95 esque interface..try to tap on the wm screen..even selecting drop down option is difficult enough for me...of course its a revelation compared to 6.1, but its hell if you comes from N1..
anyway i have to get along with this HD2..we haven't talk about battery life just yet
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Coming from an iPhone, I actually am appreciating the windows-95 esque OS. Its nice having the function of a true mobile PC in your hand....and WM6.5 may be the last OS to truly be a mobile PC. It may not be pretty, but its very functional and powerful. Sense helps streamline all of your core functions into an easy to use, beautiful interface, and if you need the functions of mobile PC, they're there. It isn't for everyone, but for those who really utilize the functions of windows mobile, there's really no comparison....android doesn't even come close.
I still keep my iPhone as my personal line and my 'play phone', and as a 'play phone', the iPhone is runs laps around Android both in terms of software and hardware...particularly once you jailbreak and unlock it. My wife's got a mytouch 3g, and a friend of mine got a nexus 1 at launch, so I've played with Android quite a bit. Android has potential, but it isn't quite there yet.
And at the end of the day, the iPhone, Android, and WM all have their fair share of bugs...like the touchscreen issues on the nexus one. The HD2 is the buggiest of all, but none of the OS's are perfect.
just my 2 cents.

yeah you may have a point..hehe
however we are freed from windows 95 long ago no point coming back
as per function...well..basic function of the phone is text and emailing..voice call...should work out fine..my palm treo 680 can store messages for 2-3 months back and the whole threads loaded in seconds, no problem
but this is strange - you have a superduper smartphone with supercharged 7L V8 engine, but have to maintain minimum sms on your conversation thread? even viewing and deleting email, or mark read is tedious at best...with palm pre you just swipe to delete..here is at least 2 tap away..

iwang said:
yeah you may have a point..hehe
however we are freed from windows 95 long ago no point coming back
as per function...well..basic function of the phone is text and emailing..voice call...should work out fine..my palm treo 680 can store messages for 2-3 months back and the whole threads loaded in seconds, no problem
but this is strange - you have a superduper smartphone with supercharged 7L V8 engine, but have to maintain minimum sms on your conversation thread? even viewing and deleting email, or mark read is tedious at best...with palm pre you just swipe to delete..here is at least 2 tap away..
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iwang, are you saying that having to tap twice is now considered to be labour intensive?
out of curiosity, why are you sticking with the HD2? it doesn't sound like you are having the best experience with it

m0j0j0j0123 said:
Shame really as conversation mode is nice, but only the other day I had to clear texts between me and my mrs as it was over 100 and the time to tap the screen to reply was anything up to about 15 seconds
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I had 400 from my missus before I did a hard rest and I had no issues with speed at all, the only thing I did notice is when the conversation is open it counted the texts from 1 to 400 odd, it didn't know the exact number after I had opened the conversation. A bit strange.

after day one

I *love* it.. don't get me wrong.. but these are my gripes after one day, and I can't find any clear answers searching the forums.
the flipping clock.. literally.. it is annoying. how do you disable the clock animation? (I found a thread for this with a .cab file, but it wasn't proven to work on the Tmo USA version)
Opera will not let me click on links. this sucks all the way around- I can't go anywhere online on this huge beautiful screen. I refuse to use IE cuz.. well, it sucks on any platform.
the facebook app blows. (the only thing I miss about my iphone- so far) and I don't care for the touch.facebook.com or m.facebook.com cuz I can't click on links in Opera.
my earthlink and gmail emails were up and running in no time. but I had one hell of a time setting up my work email. we have our own domain- I had to set up the email through my t-mobile.com and then set it up on the device. as far as I know, it's all working fine now.
I have a mac. I used syncmate- I don't use activesync, but can't figure out a way to disable it- always running in the background. I do run XP through Parallels- but I don't use Outlook, so activesync is of no use to me.
why can't All Messages be the default screen for sms/mms tab? same for email- inbox list please?
typing- I don't like xt9 cuz I don't want word suggestions, but I do want spell check. I enabled the spell check with abc, but it doesn't do it.
I un-checked the box for "notify of open wifi networks" but it still tells me all about them.
whenever I restart, I have a voicemail and txt notification- but no voicemail, and some random txt message, and it takes the led notification a few minutes to clear out.
after coming out of a locked screen, apps are open and active that were not when I locked it.
anyone know of updates or easy fixes? I don't have the opportunity to start messing around with different ROMs for a few weeks...

I find the phone to be a buggy mess, wait for an update from HTC/Tmo hopefully or flash it.

fociz said:
I find the phone to be a buggy mess, wait for an update from HTC/Tmo hopefully or flash it.
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You'll be waiting a loooong time. The best option (for the adventurous) is to simply flash one of the TMOUS compatible ROMs found here.

the clock flip cab will work.the only thing that will work on all other hd2s but not on yours is the ..51.. radios. in all other respects the phones are identical.

I know what you mean man. Previously to this phone, I had a iPhone 3GS 32gb which I traded for this phone. I had a lot of the same gripes as you have now. 95% of them probably can be fixed by HSPL'ing your phone and then flashing a different ROM on it. I am on the ATT network and so a lot of the apps that were on the phone I didn't need or use as they were meant for TMO users. So I flashed my HD2 with Kumar's lite rom. Not only did it stop a lot of the bugginess (stalling, freezing, random closing of apps, etc) but it made it a lot quicker. Might want to try that and see if it helps. The clock flipping was annoying as all hell so I just installed the cab to disable it.
I tell my friends who know me pretty well as being an iPhone addict that if the iPhone and HD2 were weapons, the iPhone would be a surgical knife. From the sleek look of the case to the smooth transitioning of the OS makes using it so easy. It doesn't have a lot of speed but with the thousands of apps and fluid movement within the phone, it feels great.
Now the HD2 on the other hand is like a broadsword. You have to put a lot of effort into getting it to do what you want it to do. With the 1ghz processor and 576mb of ram, it can do maul down anything you need it to. The HD2 you can't just pick it up and expect to use it to its fullest potential. It takes a lot of patience to learn your way around the phone. With the iPhone, you jailbreak it and modify it to be more aesthetically pleasing to your eyes and to your fingers. If you have ever just cruised cydia, you will notice not much is there in the way of performance modifications. Mainly just apps and packages that let you change how the phone moves and works for you. The roms, cabs, and registry tweaks you perform on the HD2 are more performance based I have noticed. Yes there are some cabs to help you disable or enable things but right off the bat it seems like you have to modify it. I attribute this to Microsoft's laziness in creating an OS that can perform as well as not crash at the same time.
But while you are waiting for that "oh so needed" port of Android, try kumar's rom. It might just be what you need.

I knew what I was getting into as far as WinMo is concerned... I've been reading the forums on many different sites getting ready for this.
the one thing I am not finding: absolute n00b, specific, clear, step by step instructions on how to do the hspl. I've jailbroken and rooted before- I was as nervous then and just don't wanna mess up. (I have to run anything like that with XP through Parallels on my mac, and I don't do it enough to know wtf I'm doing)

solace.discord said:
I knew what I was getting into as far as WinMo is concerned... I've been reading the forums on many different sites getting ready for this.
the one thing I am not finding: absolute n00b, specific, clear, step by step instructions on how to do the hspl. I've jailbroken and rooted before- I was as nervous then and just don't wanna mess up. (I have to run anything like that with XP through Parallels on my mac, and I don't do it enough to know wtf I'm doing)
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As I recall, you cannot flash via Parallels. You can with Bootcamp. I do it all the time on my MacBook Pro via XP sp3.
As a Mac user, I find that Missing Sync is great, but the iTunes integration is not the best. To transfer music, I use doubleTwist. I disabled the music sync plugins in Missing Sync, as I found that they did not do as good a job as doubleTwist. The two together has been fantastic.

I had the same opera problem here is how I fixed it
Download this on your windows computer
http://ceregeditor.mdsoft.pl/
Do this
HKLM/controlpanel/pen and change the value of 'Hide' from 1 to 0.
Soft reset, then go settings tab - menu - all settings - system and you should see screen settings icon.
Then go to screen settings and enable "clear type"
that makes the fonts look better
now do this
Enable Clickable Links in Zoomed Out Opera
This reg edit allows you to tap on a link without the need for zooming in first.
HKLM/Software/Opera/Info/az_overview_threshold
Change value from 64 to 32
thats why you can't click the links, it wants you to be zoomed all the way in, the above fix, fixes that problem easily
Also search for the cab, duttys task manager, its excellent

Where is the clear type setting, is that in Opera... just for 9.7? I'm running 10 anything comparable there?

solace.discord said:
I *love* it.. don't get me wrong.. but these are my gripes after one day, and I can't find any clear answers searching the forums.
the flipping clock.. literally.. it is annoying. how do you disable the clock animation? (I found a thread for this with a .cab file, but it wasn't proven to work on the Tmo USA version)
solace.discord said:
Opera will not let me click on links. this sucks all the way around- I can't go anywhere online on this huge beautiful screen. I refuse to use IE cuz.. well, it sucks on any platform.
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Use Opera 10. Its a lot faster and easier to use overall (click links included). If you can live without pinch to zoom, it blows the iPhone browser out of the water.
solace.discord said:
the facebook app blows. (the only thing I miss about my iphone- so far) and I don't care for the touch.facebook.com or m.facebook.com cuz I can't click on links in Opera.
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Use the facebook full site. Its very much useable on the HD2 thanks to its screen size and processor speed. Plus if you use Skyfire with it, you have full flash support and will be able to use all of the facebook fullsites functions! (can't do that on the iPhone)
solace.discord said:
why can't All Messages be the default screen for sms/mms tab? same for email- inbox list please?
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The energy ROM I'm using has the option of defaulting to the classics SMS view. There are cabs out there that allow you to do the same.
solace.discord said:
typing- I don't like xt9 cuz I don't want word suggestions, but I do want spell check. I enabled the spell check with abc, but it doesn't do it.
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The XT9 keyboard sucks hard. It doesn't auto correct nearly as well as the iPhone. I turn it off. Fortunately for me, 3 years on an iPhone has made me proficient enough at typing on a touchscreen, and I hardly make mistakes on it anymore. There are alternative keyboards out there that people are using, but I haven't tried them yet. Swype apparently works really well, but again, I'm accustomed to typing on a touchscreen.
solace.discord said:
I un-checked the box for "notify of open wifi networks" but it still tells me all about them.
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I don't have that problem, although I keep my wifi off. T-mobiles 3G network is really fast and stable in Houston. If you can keep it off, that might be your best bet.
solace.discord said:
whenever I restart, I have a voicemail and txt notification- but no voicemail, and some random txt message, and it takes the led notification a few minutes to clear out.
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after coming out of a locked screen, apps are open and active that were not when I locked it.
anyone know of updates or easy fixes? I don't have the opportunity to start messing around with different ROMs for a few weeks...
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I haven't had any of these problems. Most of the problems you're having are attributable to the stock ROM. Once I flashed the rom, things started running perfectly. Its a pretty easy process...just as easy as updating the firmware on the iPhone, and it only takes about 10 minutes. Its A LOT easier than jailbreaking an iPhone.
Other than that, most of the problems I've encountered were fixed with cabs (even prior to flashing the ROM). Hopefully people will chime in on other fixes, but if not, search is your friend.

SEscobedo said:
I know what you mean man. Previously to this phone, I had a iPhone 3GS 32gb which I traded for this phone. I had a lot of the same gripes as you have now. 95% of them probably can be fixed by HSPL'ing your phone and then flashing a different ROM on it. I am on the ATT network and so a lot of the apps that were on the phone I didn't need or use as they were meant for TMO users. So I flashed my HD2 with Kumar's lite rom. Not only did it stop a lot of the bugginess (stalling, freezing, random closing of apps, etc) but it made it a lot quicker. Might want to try that and see if it helps. The clock flipping was annoying as all hell so I just installed the cab to disable it.
I tell my friends who know me pretty well as being an iPhone addict that if the iPhone and HD2 were weapons, the iPhone would be a surgical knife. From the sleek look of the case to the smooth transitioning of the OS makes using it so easy. It doesn't have a lot of speed but with the thousands of apps and fluid movement within the phone, it feels great.
Now the HD2 on the other hand is like a broadsword. You have to put a lot of effort into getting it to do what you want it to do. With the 1ghz processor and 576mb of ram, it can do maul down anything you need it to. The HD2 you can't just pick it up and expect to use it to its fullest potential. It takes a lot of patience to learn your way around the phone. With the iPhone, you jailbreak it and modify it to be more aesthetically pleasing to your eyes and to your fingers. If you have ever just cruised cydia, you will notice not much is there in the way of performance modifications. Mainly just apps and packages that let you change how the phone moves and works for you. The roms, cabs, and registry tweaks you perform on the HD2 are more performance based I have noticed. Yes there are some cabs to help you disable or enable things but right off the bat it seems like you have to modify it. I attribute this to Microsoft's laziness in creating an OS that can perform as well as not crash at the same time.
But while you are waiting for that "oh so needed" port of Android, try kumar's rom. It might just be what you need.
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An analogy that I used in another topic is that if the iPhone and HD2 were cars, the iPhone would be the automatic, the HD2 would be a stick-shift.
The 'automatic-iPhone' appeals to a wide variety of people because its a simple, intuitive device. Most people can pick it up, and figure it out right away. If people find something is lacking on the iPhone, they can easily access the App store and hopefully find what they need. Having gone from a windows mobile phone to the iphone and back to a windows mobile phone, I realized eventually that a lot of the Apps on the iPhone are adding functions that are innate in windows mobile...and while the iPhone Apps are prettier, they usually don't have as much function/utility as they would on WM.
The 'manual-transmission HD2' appeals to power-users who want to get a lot of use from there phone, are somewhat technical, and those who realize that by tinkering a little bit, they can customize the experience completely to suit their needs. Windows Mobile is more cumbersome to use initially, and isn't as intuitive, but once you get the hang of it and learn how to manage your resources, you can capitalize on how much more quickly you can jump between tasks, and flat out how much you can do on this device. Sense does a great job of streamlining your core functions (phone, text, email, twitter etc) and I really like how you can check these things very quickly. Its also nice to know that if I ever need to 'pop the hood' and tweak some things underneath it, I can.
The point is, it may not work perfectly for you initially, but you can tweak it to work perfectly. With the iPhone, a lot of functions are kinda half-assed, and I missed the 'mobile PC' functionality of the HD2....my main gripe with the old Wm phones is that the hardware couldn't keep up with the software...not an issue with the HD2.

if this were a BlackBerry, I wouldn't have started this thread... but it's a WM device, I've only had a Treo before, and didn't really get into changing anything about it, and then gave it up for BlackBerry, which I did tweak, and the MT3G, which I did root and tweak and ROMs and everything.. I never did anything but jailbreak and unlock the iphone so I could use it on TMobile
I don't know how to do the hspl or change registries... install a .cab? no problem.. but I can't find clear instructions on how to do the hspl and the install a new ROM.
and- I'm on a mac... running XP through Parallels for all purposes.
if someone can point me in the right direction, I would really appreciate it.

solace.discord said:
if this were a BlackBerry, I wouldn't have started this thread... but it's a WM device, I've only had a Treo before, and didn't really get into changing anything about it, and then gave it up for BlackBerry, which I did tweak, and the MT3G, which I did root and tweak and ROMs and everything.. I never did anything but jailbreak and unlock the iphone so I could use it on TMobile
I don't know how to do the hspl or change registries... install a .cab? no problem.. but I can't find clear instructions on how to do the hspl and the install a new ROM.
and- I'm on a mac... running XP through Parallels for all purposes.
if someone can point me in the right direction, I would really appreciate it.
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You won't be able to safely/effectively flash ROMs via Parallels. I would not do it, because there are reports of bricked HD2s via VM flashes. It's safer to use Bootcamp. That's what I do. I have an XPsp3 partition with all my phone stuff there (Radios, ROMs, MTTY, HSPL, etc.) and it works like a charm.

so I found a thread with noob instructions.. looks like I'm gonna have to fire up the old HP in the corner.

solace.discord said:
the facebook app blows. (the only thing I miss about my iphone- so far) and I don't care for the touch.facebook.com or m.facebook.com cuz I can't click on links in Opera.
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Go to marketplace and download the new version - it's really good.

solace.discord said:
so I found a thread with noob instructions.. looks like I'm gonna have to fire up the old HP in the corner.
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Would you mind posting a link to the instructions you mention, so people who find this thread in the future can get to it easily? Thanks

HD2: Not for texting! D:

you'd think HTC would have thought these devices through a little more, yeah? NO.
seeing as how i can't send a text message without a five second delay. i can't receive a text message without my phone freezing for ten. and god forbid i try and view one message while receiving another one, right?
also consider: the 1ghz processor, 16gb harddrive, 1024mb rom (on some devices), and this thing can't go five minutes without a hiccup? what the hell? D:
maybe my phone is just a screwed copy, but **** n' seriously. i just want to be able to have eye candy that operates decently. i thought that's what the HD2 was for, but it was a huge let down for me.
now, until HTC gets their crap in order and creates a better text engine, or someone ports android over to the HD2, guess what guys? we're F&%KED.
so, enlighten me, xda friendlies. are there additional text engines for the HD2? different programs to use, for faster typing and flawless send/receive features? cause until then, i'm inserting my sim card into my iPhone, as much as i hate apple itself with a burning passion, at least it texts somewhat better.
cause seriously, if i can't even stand to use my own phone, what the hell is the point?
intelligent responses only, go take your immaturities somewhere else.

Have you tried a Custom ROM?

At least try the new upgrade
If your not ready for custom ROM (like me) try the upgrade.
Worked for me, resolving apparently (its still early) all of my previous problems with the phone- like yours.
Good luck. I think this is a good machine, just has a few bugs- thats normal.

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secano said:
Have you tried a Custom ROM?
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i've tried Energyrom GTX version. fully updated. and i didn't like it.
it came with a crap load of extras, and i liked that, but the text messaging was back to the version before the HD2, the very same i dealt with on the TP2. didn't like it for some reason.
are there any custom roms that you approve of? if so, please, link me to the page so i can test them out for myself. and thanks in advance.
tcoots said:
If your not ready for custom ROM (like me) try the upgrade.
Worked for me, resolving apparently (its still early) all of my previous problems with the phone- like yours.
Good luck. I think this is a good machine, just has a few bugs- thats normal.
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great machine. too buggy of an OS. not saying others are flawless, but i'd rather not have the only flaws in it related to the major thing i do with the phone. and i have upgraded to the rom that t-moUS release just a week ago. it's still pretty slow for me, considering my fingers move too fast for the keyboard to pick up on. i've already registry edited the lengthymessage thread, making it so the cache is always enabled, and somewhat speeding the system up a little bit when viewing the message itself. but typing is still very slow, and it's driven me up three walls, and back again.
does the text system and keyboard operate faster when SenseUI is disabled, using only the homescreen? cause if so, maybe i can deal with that, too. sense is nice, but not everything.

Try the upgraded ROM. I didnt have that much trouble but it has improved immensely! I can run CHT Again!

Yeah, try the upgrade. I am a major texter, and the new client works perfectly for me.

i have never had an issue with texting on my hd2, i went from the stock shiped to the upgraded 2.13 and never had an issue, now using elegancia 8.5 and still no issues.

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toreone said:
Try the upgraded ROM. I didnt have that much trouble but it has improved immensely! I can run CHT Again!
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okay, i will try it as soon as i can find it, how's that? i just downloaded what i thought was the newest ROM for the USHD2, and it's still as bad as wm6.1 on the Touch Pro 2.
jdwrrzmm said:
Yeah, try the upgrade. I am a major texter, and the new client works perfectly for me.
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once again, what ROM. show me a link and a ROM update version, and i'll let you kno if i haven't already downloaded that.
ericm115 said:
i have never had an issue with texting on my hd2, i went from the stock shiped to the upgraded 2.13 and never had an issue, now using elegancia 8.5 and still no issues.
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i'm gonna check that ROM out tomorrow, and get back to you if it helps me. but tell me, do you kno the difference between the "htc messaging" and "non-htc messaging" versions? which one is gonna be faster whith sending and receiving, as well as typing? please, and thank you very much, you guys.

just saying..
THANK YOU, YOU GUYS!
i know i'm not the only poor guy out there suffering from bad HD2 messaging. so this is helping more than just me. =]
PLEASE! keep the answers coming.​

To be more specific its rom upgrade 2.13, I assume youre still on the stock rom, the new tmous rom upgrade is 2.13, I myself have a custom rom, cleanex uniQ and it comes with the new messaging client and it also doesnt have the junk load of apps on it either just google rom upgrade 2.13, and im sure youll be satisfied with the text messaging I know I am, hope this helps a little buddy

ijoshv2 said:
i've tried Energyrom GTX version. fully updated. and i didn't like it.
it came with a crap load of extras, and i liked that, but the text messaging was back to the version before the HD2, the very same i dealt with on the TP2. didn't like it for some reason.
are there any custom roms that you approve of? if so, please, link me to the page so i can test them out for myself. and thanks in advance.
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On the first page of the thread he offers addon cabs. One of the cabs is original HD2 messenger which works perfect.

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To be more specific its rom upgrade 2.13, I assume youre still on the stock rom, the new tmous rom upgrade is 2.13, I myself have a custom rom, cleanex uniQ and it comes with the new messaging client and it also doesnt have the junk load of apps on it either just google rom upgrade 2.13, and im sure youll be satisfied with the text messaging I know I am, hope this helps a little buddy
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for future clarification..
MY ROM IS T-MOus 2.13.531.1. =]
ddgarcia05 said:
On the first page of the thread he offers addon cabs. One of the cabs is original HD2 messenger which works perfect.
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alright, i will check the energyrom page again and investigate. but if i go with energyrom, i would choose the second version which has the taskbar at the bottom of the screen. hopefully this, as well, has the messenger that i need.

i would just divert back to 2.10 which you can get from xmoo's stock ROM thread. 2.13 had me to the point where i wanted to throw my phone at the wall. its incredibly easy to downgrade. an although i gotta be deleting txt after every 20 from a contact.. id rather deal with that then have an extremey slow freezing 2.13 messaging app. i agree with you that its shameful that such a hardware capable phone has such a ****ty messaging app

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i would just divert back to 2.10 which you can get from xmoo's stock ROM thread. 2.13 had me to the point where i wanted to throw my phone at the wall. its incredibly easy to downgrade. an although i gotta be deleting txt after every 20 from a contact.. id rather deal with that then have an extremey slow freezing 2.13 messaging app. i agree with you that its shameful that such a hardware capable phone has such a ****ty messaging app
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thank you for seeing this as well, my friend. but keep in mind. i'm a texter. i like keeping my messages. i have a 516 message chain with my girlfriend. and i eventually clear them out, but not willingly. i shouldn't have to clean out my text messages to make my phone operate smoothly. so a good suggestion, but not for me. thanks =]

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okay so, i tried out the energyrom with cookie's hometab, and the rom works quite well. ocassionally freezes and needs a reboot, and i wish they could fix that, but it's in progress, so i'm not gonna complain too much. i downloaded the ADDON text message program he included under the addons and fixes link, and the messaging is soo much more fluid. no delays, doesn't matter how many messages i have, and i like it. it's missing the spell check feature, which i liked alot, but i can just be more careful with my spelling, and it'll work for now.
but i have yet another problem! when i receive a mms, the message comes in suuuper small, and it's not the picture either. i would fwd a 260kb photo to myself, and it'll come in at 5kb. not cool, i need that fixed. and also, the mms messaging says the limit is 300K. why is that? i thought t-mobile upped the mms size to 1024K i need that fixed, too. so if anyone has some good intel, please, comment this thread and help us all out!
THANK YOU GUYS!

Yup ROM upgrade 2.13 fixed my texting lag issues.

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but i have yet another problem! when i receive a mms, the message comes in suuuper small, and it's not the picture either. i would fwd a 260kb photo to myself, and it'll come in at 5kb. not cool, i need that fixed. and also, the mms messaging says the limit is 300K. why is that? i thought t-mobile upped the mms size to 1024K i need that fixed, too. so if anyone has some good intel, please, comment this thread and help us all out!
THANK YOU GUYS!
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Confirmed for "suuuper small" pic fix for Energy ROMS. Cab provided below.
Page 32, post 313. Link to page in Energy thread

I text using the phone key pad.. I know most of you think im nuts, but give me a phone with actuall keys and I will out type and spell all of you who use a query or full keboard, i cant stand those two types, anyway stock ROM the typing was awesome I could type almost as fast as on a button phone.
Did the rom update last night, now i have to go at half speed, its terrible.
Phone buttons cant keep up, or will lock up.

If your that heavy into texting get one for the HTC Messaging disabled roms. I run Kumars premium V2.0 and I have had it on there for almost a month now with no issues and no texts deleted which means i have over 2000 on the device and it doesn't freeze

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If your that heavy into texting get one for the HTC Messaging disabled roms. I run Kumars premium V2.0 and I have had it on there for almost a month now with no issues and no texts deleted which means i have over 2000 on the device and it doesn't freeze
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The Energy roms do not come with the HTC messenger, he added it because he wanted. I couldn't agree with you more about using the windows messenger. It works great when you get it threaded. (start>settings>systems>sms threading)

welcome basket?

like the rhodium, is there a welcome basket for the HD2 or is it possible to use the same ones they use? that includes
no push internet
sktools5
speedbooster
ssk tp2 dynamic resource proxy
tnyynt sd tuneup
and memory leak mod
those sped up the rhodium but is there anything for the HD2 or can i also use these?

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like the rhodium, is there a welcome basket for the HD2 or is it possible to use the same ones they use? that includes
no push internet
sktools5
speedbooster
ssk tp2 dynamic resource proxy
tnyynt sd tuneup
and memory leak mod
those sped up the rhodium but is there anything for the HD2 or can i also use these?
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Hey panda. I honestly haven't even tried any of those yet on the HD2, just haven't felt the memory pinch on here like we did on the TP2. I'll check those cabs in a minute here and see if the regedits they make look like they'd have any effect on the HD2.

well i dont know if this is suppose to happen but my HD2 lags a lot. it lags when i receive a message as in it doesnt respond at all. sometimes it just simply crashes and often it feels really slow much slower than my TP2. is this suppose to happen or no?

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well i dont know if this is suppose to happen but my HD2 lags a lot. it lags when i receive a message as in it doesnt respond at all. sometimes it just simply crashes and often it feels really slow much slower than my TP2. is this suppose to happen or no?
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Actually yes I believe that is the #1 most commonly-reported issue among HD2 owners, lagging from SMS.
The first step to take is reduce the number of messages in the SMS client if possible, a large part of the issue is that the software chokes when it starts to fill up even a little (as little as 50 messages, total).
Second, do you know which ROM you have on your new HD2? Depending on when you bought it, it may or may not have the official updated ROM that was recently released. The new ROM is supposed to address the SMS lag, and works for some but not others.
If you don't have the new ROM yet, it might be worth you flashing to it to see if it fixes this issue for you...but there's potential caveats to the new one as
well, so make sure you do a little research around here before you decide that.
EDIT: I'm still checking out the cabs for those TP2 tweaks to see what might have any useful effect on the HD2, I'll let you know as soon as I've gone through them all (didn't have much time at the office today lol)

currently i am running the 2.13 rom i bought it about 2 weeks ago or a week. is the new sms interface the one causing the problem? can you change it to the classic wm innterface? that would fix it right?

[Q] Sms sent lag, HELP

Hello all, I have a big issue with this tilt 2 and that is the sms sent and pressing "X" to go back in the inbox of sms messages, it lags for a good 10-20 and sometimes the whole screen would freeze up because of this.
So I recently bought a tilt 2 and the seller told me he flashed it to a new rom which whenever I turn the phone on, it says Energy Rom so does anyone have a solution to this sms sent lag other than deleting all text messages daily, please help!
Thank you all in advance for your time and suggestions!

Sending a TXT isn't instant... it takes a little bit to log in, transmit, and finish sending the TXT message.. that is most likely the 10-20 sec of "lag" you are experiancing... I use the Energy line of roms myself... and I feel they are the best over all roms out there... period.

Teej53214 said:
Sending a TXT isn't instant... it takes a little bit to log in, transmit, and finish sending the TXT message.. that is most likely the 10-20 sec of "lag" you are experiancing... I use the Energy line of roms myself... and I feel they are the best over all roms out there... period.
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And it has nothing to do with the crappy htc sms client? come on it isn't normal that you have to wait 10-20 seconds when you send a sms.

Lennyz1988 said:
And it has nothing to do with the crappy htc sms client? come on it isn't normal that you have to wait 10-20 seconds when you send a sms.
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I'd have to agree. A SMS is about 1/7th of a kilobyte and a kilobyte is practically nothing. Sending a SMS doesn't cause a lag. I've been sending SMS since 1998 and WM wasn't even an option back then. It's all Microsoft and their crap OS.

I have to agree, it is the crappy htc sms client to blame, so I'm guessing noone have found a solution to this yet? Have you guys tried to hotfix from htc site?
I owned the tilt 1 and there was no lag at all in sms.

Ok, this is going to sound stupid but I'm not familiar with these types of ROM, such as Energy Rom. Is that the same as Manila 2.5? Or are they completely different?

Girli3e said:
Ok, this is going to sound stupid but I'm not familiar with these types of ROM, such as Energy Rom. Is that the same as Manila 2.5? Or are they completely different?
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I can help you picking a rom and flashing, just pm me

Its hard to belive that you guys are gaetting that much lag,im running stock everything WM6.5,ive checked speeds with various people and the most i get is 5seconds of lag.
of course if i have running apps,and im not overclocked it hesitates a little..

Outlaw78a said:
Its hard to belive that you guys are gaetting that much lag,im running stock everything WM6.5,ive checked speeds with various people and the most i get is 5seconds of lag.
of course if i have running apps,and im not overclocked it hesitates a little..
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And what version of sense do you use? 2.1?

@ Lennyz1988
I tried to PM you, are you getting my messages?
Can you help me please

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@ Lennyz1988
I tried to PM you, are you getting my messages?
Can you help me please
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What Exactly Do You Need Help With?
Maybe I Could Try To Help You.

I am attempting to change the interface on my tilt 2 to android or something else so the sms in threaded mode won't lag and plus im tired of the WinMo appearance. =)
Thank you for your time!

Hi I have the same problem as you and it drives me crazy. tell me if im correct: You are complaining about the fact that after you press x to close a threaded text conversation it lags getting back to the inbox. On mine everything changes back to the inbox except for the top of the screen and then it just sits there till it eventually goes bqck. Your not reffering to how long it takes for you friend to receive the text, correct? Ive tired installing the most current sms program from htc that was taking from another phone and although it looked much niicer and had some cool features it didnt work right and i had to switch back. Maybe somone reading this can suggest something. It sdriving me crazy. as far as changing from the windows look which either you mean what they call titanium which is that homescreen where you have everything in alist and you can scroll up and own through it or do you you mean what they call touch flo or sense where you move along the bottom of the screen through tabs? either way i would highly recomend spb mobile shell which will make your phone similar to android layout. It works great and is reqally easy to customize everything. or at least touch flo/sense with what they call cookies home tab which helps you customize your home screen. Let me know whcih one you have and which one you want and ill help you. I dont know how to program but i do know how to use the phone well, and customize it thanks to all the developers here who provide us with so much to do it with.

@ swaters3, yes that is exactly the probably with sms, it takes forever to go back to inbox screen and it freezes up. I'm not should what layout I have but its WinMo and the previously owner changed the rom the Energy Rom, if that matters. As for the Android layout, I heard I can do a dual boot where I can keep both WinMo and Android on the tilt 2. I was thinking, if I can boot to android that the sms will function right. As of now, I am still stuck with tilt 2 lagging sms threaded mode. Frustrating.

Do you hava a lot of sms or e-mail saved on the phone? That can cause it to bog down.

Yeah, but I originally owned the tilt 1 and had over 4,000 text message and encounter no problem sending out text messages.

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@ swaters3, yes that is exactly the probably with sms, it takes forever to go back to inbox screen and it freezes up. I'm not should what layout I have but its WinMo and the previously owner changed the rom the Energy Rom, if that matters. As for the Android layout, I heard I can do a dual boot where I can keep both WinMo and Android on the tilt 2. I was thinking, if I can boot to android that the sms will function right. As of now, I am still stuck with tilt 2 lagging sms threaded mode. Frustrating.
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i wish someone could help us with the lag, lately ive just learnt to be patient, though that is a little ridiculous. There is a sms program from htc (thecompany that makes the phone) that is much nicer and did not have the lag. I did have some other issues but maybe it will work for you. Search in xda for updated htc sms app and see if you can find it. as far as anroid goes I am trying to get mine to work properly and have still not got it to connect to sprint. Its a work in progress and not everything works so i dont think you would want to switch to it permanently. Give it a shot though its very cool and gets better every few days. As of know I think the camera is still not working but most everything else is. I would recomend spb mobile shell. watch some videos on youtube although you will be able to customize it yourself completely. Youll need to play with it to figure out how to customize it but its pretty easy just drag and drop type of stuff with anything on the phone. It looks and works like android but youll still be suing windows mobile. Its works great for me and i wouldnt be able to keep this phone if not for it. I hope that helps.