Widcomm Bluetooth Stack - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

Hello,
Does somebody know if there is any HTC device that use the Widcomm BT stack instead of standard Microsoft stack?
Thanks,
Emil.

emilbergg said:
Hello,
Does somebody know if there is any HTC device that use the Widcomm BT stack instead of standard Microsoft stack?
Thanks,
Emil.
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Unfortunately the Touch Pro 2/Tilt 2 does. Why in the world would you want it? Nothing seems to work with it.. Several of my programs that use bluetooth don't detect anything.

I'm writing a BT application and I want to be sure that it works also on devices with the Widcomm stack.
Maybe there is a wrapper for the Widcomm stack that let all BT applications be compatible with it?
Why the OEMs use this stack instead of Microsoft's?

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emilbergg said:
I'm writing a BT application and I want to be sure that it works also on devices with the Widcomm stack.
Maybe there is a wrapper for the Widcomm stack that let all BT applications be compatible with it?
Why the OEMs use this stack instead of Microsoft's?
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Hi emilbergg
It's to do with the chip that they use for the device. The Broadcomm chip requires the Widcomm software. Essentially, it's a driver issue. Different chip, different driver. I'm guessing the choice of chip is made on a mixture of functionality and cost.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking

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Changing Bluetooth stack to Broadcom

Anybody know of a way to change the bluetooth stack in the i-mate Jam to the broadcom stack, as used in the Orange m2000 (Blue Angel)? I've used both and find the LAN browsing abilities in the M2000 most useful
Thanks
At a guess mate, the broadcom stuff is wi-fi and NOT Bluetooth?
Kev
Anonymous said:
At a guess mate, the broadcom stuff is wi-fi and NOT Bluetooth?
Kev
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Yes, but Broadcom aquired Widdcom, so now they also have bluetooth.
I resume this thread to ask if anybody thought to test BCM1000-WCE
Bluetooth® Communications Software for Windows® Mobile 2003 for Pocket PC and Pocket PC Phone Edition.
It looks great and full of functionality. But where is it possible to dowload it? Is this the same of the one on ftp site, BroadcomCorp_BT1.0.0.3900.cab ? Did anyone try BroadcomCorp_BT1.0.0.3900.cab on S100? Does it support the Audio High Quality (A2DP) profile?
WEBSITE
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth+RF+Silicon+and+Software+Solutions/BCM1000-WCE
PDF INFO
http://www.broadcom.com/collateral/pb/1000-WCE-PB03-R.pdf
http://www.idedata.no/support/support.asp?ID=428
I foud it here, but haven't tryed this jet
i will try it and let ya know.........
tried it and it didn't work... same error as with any widdcom drivers! and it doesn't create a bluetooth icon shortcut in the today screen!
doesn't works
tried but when i try to activate BT i get always errors on BT devices not found
Thx PapaDocta for your testing...it's really a shame that we have to work around this way to find a decent BT Stack to replace that poor one by MS!
:x :x :x
Re: doesn't works
crino said:
tried but when i try to activate BT i get always errors on BT devices not found
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Grazie pure a te!!!
Bluesoleil BT stack
I used Bluesoleil BT stack fot Win CE work for me
see : http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18537
but looking for full version
Re: doesn't works
crino said:
tried but when i try to activate BT i get always errors on BT devices not found
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i tried this stack - it's don't work.
I think it because broadcom limits to use they stack only for certain devices which has license to use they stack.
in broadcom registry hive i found "license" key. if somebody find proper license key for i-mate bt chip - i think that broadcom stack will work on magician.
Re: Bluesoleil BT stack
Knot said:
I used Bluesoleil BT stack fot Win CE work for me
see : http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18537
but looking for full version
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ya bluesoleil works
do u tried it with a bluetooth headset?
Re: Bluesoleil BT stack
crino said:
Knot said:
I used Bluesoleil BT stack fot Win CE work for me
see : http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18537
but looking for full version
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ya bluesoleil works
do u tried it with a bluetooth headset?
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We Crino!
...the problem is right that: Bluesoleil stack doesn't have handsfree profile...is it right?

Which bluetooth stack is the Prophet using?

Hi,
I bought a Dopod 818 Pro and happily loaded the drivers for my Think Outside BT Keyboard. Unfortunately the BT Keyboard on the Prophet tells me :
Bluetooth system not detected.
Current version of the keyboard/mouse driver supports the following Bluetooth stacks
Widcomm BTW CE 1.4.x - 1.5.x
Drakar (Socket) 6.x.x
Microsoft
Does anyone have an idea on how I can get this to work? Think Outside is very slow to update their software / drivers. One option seems to me to load either the Widcomm or the Drakar stack. Any one tried something like this?
Thanks & Best Regards
Of course Prophet running WM5 and has Microsoft Bluetooth stacks. I think the version is 2.0. Is newer then before. No way to use other Blue tooth stacks on Pocket PC.
the BT stack onthe prophet is total garbage, only supports 2 services.. the older widcom stack for the 2K3 pdas have like 14 services
pr5owner said:
the BT stack onthe prophet is total garbage, only supports 2 services.. the older widcom stack for the 2K3 pdas have like 14 services
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Same Microsoft s#%t as on Windows XP. My Sony Vaio comes with MS stack, and ....it supports only 2 services. So I have built-in BT, but can use it only for a BT mouse or modem.

Bluetooth programming portability issue

Hi all,
I am programming an OBEX bluetooth program for pocketPC platform, I see that there are different bluetooth stacks (Widcomm, Microsoft,...) on different pocket pcs, also I see that there are many ways to write OBEX bluetooth apps, either Winsock or using IObex COM objects and may be others.
My question is:
1. Do I have to write two implementtions to work with Widcomm BT stack and MS BT stack?
2. I am currently implementing BT functions using IObex COM interfaces, will this work on Widcomm BT stack??
3. any suggestions?
I hope to find some help here as usual
Thanks for your time...
Mohammad
mohgdeisat said:
Hi all,
I am programming an OBEX bluetooth program for pocketPC platform, I see that there are different bluetooth stacks (Widcomm, Microsoft,...) on different pocket pcs, also I see that there are many ways to write OBEX bluetooth apps, either Winsock or using IObex COM objects and may be others.
My question is:
1. Do I have to write two implementtions to work with Widcomm BT stack and MS BT stack?
2. I am currently implementing BT functions using IObex COM interfaces, will this work on Widcomm BT stack??
3. any suggestions?
I hope to find some help here as usual
Thanks for your time...
Mohammad
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I think your best options is to make two components, because Widcomm BT implementation is completely different of M$ BT stack.
Fortunately both SDK are available.
Cheers,
.Fred
Thanks, dotfred, but if I have to do two implementations then where can find Widcomm BT stack SDK?? is it free to download? and what approximate percentage of PPC users use Widcomm BT Stack?
Any other suggestions guys?
Mohammad
mohgdeisat said:
Thanks, dotfred, but if I have to do two implementations then where can find Widcomm BT stack SDK?? is it free to download? and what approximate percentage of PPC users use Widcomm BT Stack?
Any other suggestions guys?
Mohammad
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I have a Widcomm that works on my XDAII (I can give it), but for the rest, I really don't know. Don't forget that both stacks can't be active at the same time on the device, so you have to play with the registry and soft reset to activate one or another.
The biggest problem with Widcomm is that the bt headset doesn't work.
And the biggest problem of M$ stack is the lack of PAN and the BT manager is useless.
I think you should try to do it first for M$, when you succeeded then do it/try it with Widcomm, but you need a device that has it.
Cheers,
.Fred
ps.: for the sdk, here is an interesting article and a download link:
http://www.pocketpcdn.com/articles/...=78&atb.set(a_id)=7800&atb.perform(details)=&

Anyone tried to install MS Bluetooth Stack?

Anyone tried to install MS Bluetooth Stack?
Dumdidum said:
Anyone tried to install MS Bluetooth Stack?
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Nope, and that question has never been asked before.
and to add to that, widcomm stack traditionally is way better than ms stack. I'm not sure the reason for undoing what's in the HD2.
I asked HTC this same question as the WIDCOMM stack has made this phone incompatible with both my car handsfree and PC bluetooth dongle so can't use it for anything I need to. Unfortunately they didn't say much apart from they're going to pass this back as an issue and hopefully an update will be made available to allow connection with standard equipment. All of my previous phone's worked perfectly with both devices.

Anyone tried to install MS Bluetooth Stack?

Anyone tried to install MS Bluetooth Stack?
I dont think you can just "install" a BT stack.... although I wish you could...
it is possible tbough with a lot of driver modifications.
For sure it will be required to cook the MS bluetooth stack into the ROM instead of just install, but many other parts of the rom are using the widcomm stack so it will be a big job.
Its a shame, because i found the sound via A2DP was better via the MS stack, and other users have found the widcomm stack unreliable with car kits or hands free headsets.
I think a better approach would be for a updated widcomm stack
whether they update the widcomm stack, or change it for MS, I don't care, I just wish HTC would hurry up and do it... so many people have problems with it.
I've tried and failed... The Leo and the Rhodium use different BT/Wifi chipsets that arent compatible with the MS BT Stack
Oh dear, that doesn't sound good.
Thank you very much for trying to do it anyway NRG.
NRGZ28 said:
I've tried and failed... The Leo and the Rhodium use different BT/Wifi chipsets that arent compatible with the MS BT Stack
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Not compatible....
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