Anyone tried to install MS Bluetooth Stack?
Dumdidum said:
Anyone tried to install MS Bluetooth Stack?
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Nope, and that question has never been asked before.
and to add to that, widcomm stack traditionally is way better than ms stack. I'm not sure the reason for undoing what's in the HD2.
I asked HTC this same question as the WIDCOMM stack has made this phone incompatible with both my car handsfree and PC bluetooth dongle so can't use it for anything I need to. Unfortunately they didn't say much apart from they're going to pass this back as an issue and hopefully an update will be made available to allow connection with standard equipment. All of my previous phone's worked perfectly with both devices.
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Hello:
I was wondering if someone could explain the difference between the BT Stack that comes in the XDA/MDAII and the Widcomm BT Stack. I have read in other forums that this is the reason the XDA/MDAII BT does not work well with many devices.
Can someone clarify? Sorry if this question is too "dumb".
Fernando
The Bluetooth "stack" is the software portion of the Bluetooth. It provides various profiles, like a serial profile to connect to a COM/Serial Port, a network profile, a headset profile, etc. Each device provides different profiles.
MS Bluetooth stack some troubles with COM ports.
People are extracting the WidComm Stack, which comes on Ipaq, and using it on XDA II, till a patch is provided.
@palmop
Please how to do?
step by step
Hi Palmop, here we go again!!!
I am trying to create a bond between my MDAII and a BT device. It is asking me to insert a PIN, which I do not have. The device manufacturer (igo.com) claims that a PIN is not necessary, since their device works well with the iPaqs and the Loox. So I am stuck in the middle of BT stack compatibility.
I have also tried to setup a BT bond between my MDAII and my desktop PC (with a BT USB dongle), and in this case the MDAII does not even recognize the desktop.
Is this all the result of a crappy BT stack in the MDAII? Do you think it can be fixed with a patch, or perhaps the Widcomm stack?
Thanks again for your advice.
Fernando
palmop said:
The Bluetooth "stack" is the software portion of the Bluetooth. It provides various profiles, like a serial profile to connect to a COM/Serial Port, a network profile, a headset profile, etc. Each device provides different profiles.
MS Bluetooth stack some troubles with COM ports.
People are extracting the WidComm Stack, which comes on Ipaq, and using it on XDA II, till a patch is provided.
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Could you please provide link for such resource? Thanks.
I believe you should be able to Active Sync via Bluetooth using current stack, at least, but haven't tried myself.
It is the Bluetooth GPS thread here on XDA-Developers.com, search for widcomm, you'll find it
Thanks. one question has not been answered there - after this mod BT headset is still functional?
Apparently no. However, they have used some files dated May, not the latest. So I don't know if those files would fix it.
I have a XDA II and a TDK BT dongle for my PC and can confirm that it does hook up successfully.
You just need to set the serial port to the COMM port of the BT dongle in Activesync, then hit use bluetooth in the activesync menu.
Dom
Hey all,
I'm trying to pair a PPC with SonyEricsson's bluetooth watch MBW-150 to use moneytoo's brilliant SmartWatchM. This worked fine with my old PPC running the Microsoft bluetooth stack. My new PPC (LG KS20) uses the Widcomm/Broadcom stack, believed to be cleverer than the MS stack.
Here's the problem:
The PPC will not pair. The watch does not send out information according to the BT Service Discovery Protocol (SDP), because it was never meant to be paired with anything else than SE phones. The Microsoft stack didn't care and paired nonetheless. The Widcomm/Broadcom stack, however, will pair with BT devices only if it finds a supported profile. The watch uses the Serial Port Profile (SPP), but it doesn't say so, not sending any SDP information to the PPC. The PPC would support SPP of course, but doesn't pair as it has no way of knowing that the watch supports this profile.
In the end, when I try to pair, the PPC will see the watch but doesn't know what to do with it, and will not pair.
Is there any way of pairing (using a Widcomm/Broadcom stack) without SDP information? Can I enforce pairing with the watch? (I can easily insert serial port settings in the reg manually.)
Or can I somehow change my BT stack? I've read that the only way to do that would mean changing the ROM ... :-(
Any ideas? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Many thanks,
N.
I'm using 32feet.NET library that supports only MS BT Stack. Fortunately I have just found this lib http://franson.com/bluetools/ that seems to support Widcomm Stack. I will try it soon.
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What BT stack is on it? Is it Broadcom? Widcomm on Motorola Q9 is ok and lets you to pair device without any service but Broadcom on a one HP iPAQ I have tested doesnt.
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Not a good news. Franson Bluetools doesnt work on smartphones. I dont know much about this stuff but from what I have read it seems like pairing/bonding request is possible only in MS BT stack (via some non official function) and it's disabled in other BT stacks because of security issues.
Thanks for chiming in, moneytoo!
moneytoo said:
What BT stack is on it? Is it Broadcom? Widcomm on Motorola Q9 is ok and lets you to pair device without any service but Broadcom on a one HP iPAQ I have tested doesnt.
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This may be a noob question but: How do I tell whether it's Broadcom or Widcomm? Is there still a difference since Broadcom bought Widcomm?
Anyway, BT manager will not pair ("no supported protocol found").
moneytoo said:
it seems like pairing/bonding request is possible only in MS BT stack (via some non official function) and it's disabled in other BT stacks because of security issues.
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I'm afraid that's true. I haven't found anything so far that would point me to a workaround, backdoor or anything - and as my KS20 is a company phone I can hardly change the ROM
Let's hope someone comes up with an idea!
Hi there,
is it possible to install an alternative BT stack on the TP2? I can't pair with a BT mouse and keyboard and want to try if replacing BT stack might solve this?
I guess grabbing another stack from another model might brick my phone or isn't that so risky
Tnx.. Marco
I replaced the bt stack on my Hermes once.
It did work but it kinda wrecked my wm 6.1 install, causing horrible performance.
I guess (esp at this moment) your best bet is to get the current bt stack to work with your devices.
I personally love the new BT stack, the default microsoft stack doesn't seem to support anything and is incredibly slow.
Stoway BT drivers can be downloaded here it probably doesnt have direct support for the Rhodium, but if you check which other devices used a Widcomm Stack, then it should work.
Cheers,
Beasty
Hello,
Does somebody know if there is any HTC device that use the Widcomm BT stack instead of standard Microsoft stack?
Thanks,
Emil.
emilbergg said:
Hello,
Does somebody know if there is any HTC device that use the Widcomm BT stack instead of standard Microsoft stack?
Thanks,
Emil.
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Unfortunately the Touch Pro 2/Tilt 2 does. Why in the world would you want it? Nothing seems to work with it.. Several of my programs that use bluetooth don't detect anything.
I'm writing a BT application and I want to be sure that it works also on devices with the Widcomm stack.
Maybe there is a wrapper for the Widcomm stack that let all BT applications be compatible with it?
Why the OEMs use this stack instead of Microsoft's?
Chip
emilbergg said:
I'm writing a BT application and I want to be sure that it works also on devices with the Widcomm stack.
Maybe there is a wrapper for the Widcomm stack that let all BT applications be compatible with it?
Why the OEMs use this stack instead of Microsoft's?
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Hi emilbergg
It's to do with the chip that they use for the device. The Broadcomm chip requires the Widcomm software. Essentially, it's a driver issue. Different chip, different driver. I'm guessing the choice of chip is made on a mixture of functionality and cost.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking
Anyone tried to install MS Bluetooth Stack?
I dont think you can just "install" a BT stack.... although I wish you could...
it is possible tbough with a lot of driver modifications.
For sure it will be required to cook the MS bluetooth stack into the ROM instead of just install, but many other parts of the rom are using the widcomm stack so it will be a big job.
Its a shame, because i found the sound via A2DP was better via the MS stack, and other users have found the widcomm stack unreliable with car kits or hands free headsets.
I think a better approach would be for a updated widcomm stack
whether they update the widcomm stack, or change it for MS, I don't care, I just wish HTC would hurry up and do it... so many people have problems with it.
I've tried and failed... The Leo and the Rhodium use different BT/Wifi chipsets that arent compatible with the MS BT Stack
Oh dear, that doesn't sound good.
Thank you very much for trying to do it anyway NRG.
NRGZ28 said:
I've tried and failed... The Leo and the Rhodium use different BT/Wifi chipsets that arent compatible with the MS BT Stack
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Not compatible....