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I feel that after the big verizon and alltel gps cracks that there has been a lack in cool things happening for the titan. I realize that there are much better devices out there but I don't consider the titan ready to roll over a die just yet. Now more than ever I am feeling restricted by ghost 64 mb of ram. I've always had the most bad ass 'phone' of anybody that I know but I feel almost like I've done it all. I feel like android is a waste of time, because the iu is cool but I really can't see my self using it on a day to day and the amount of add-ons one would need to get it running smoothly would most likely eat up memory anyway (don't hate just my opinion). Maybe someone could cheer me up with something new I don't know about. Thanks ahead of time.
You still have No2chem working on his ROM over at ppcgeeks and maybe DCD will pop out another ROM, but the Titan is now a discontinued device. While popular, it never had the developer interest that the Apache did, so I expect development will fall off more rapidly. Fortunately, the current stuff like DCD's ROM work really well and my Mogul has a whole lot less headache factor than it did 6 months ago. Unfortunately, if you're bored and looking for new toys, you're going to be disappointed. Due to low RAM, we will probably be unable to acceptably run much of the software being developed with the Diamond, Touch Pro and beyond in mind. FWIW, barring a catastrophic failure, I intend to keep using my Mogul for at least the next year. My intention is to skip the diamond/touch pro generation completely with the hope that the next gen Android phones or another OS will free me from the old pig that is WM.
Thanks for the reply
I agree with you the touch diamond is not worth dropping almost 6 hundro for. I would spend the money if I thought it was. I am also pissed about the carrier fights because I used to work for verizon and hate them now and t-mobile's coverage in this area sucks bad, sprints customer service and williness to work with on issues is the absolute worst, and AT&T isn't even worth talking about, so I am happiest with alltel as far as price and service goes, but they are always about 4-6 months behind. And the G1 is a great concept but my buddy's really didn't impress me but I've been reading about the Touch HD (aka G2) and it looks like the phone I'd really like to have but they have no intentions right now of cdma functionality. So i just feel a little stuck. I am very impatient with these things.
On a closing note I will also agree that DCD's 3.2.xxx has been very near perfection. No more freezing. That is probably the most embarrassing thing to happen. You give someone your phone and tell them to use live search to go look at something then, boom, your phone freezes and you know they are thinking the thing that most pissess me off, 'Well it's definitely no iPhone.' The thing that makes you just want to wrap their hair up in your hand and knee them in the face a dozen times because you know the iphone doesn't have half the functionality your titan but you can't do anything but live with it because ****ing windows locked up because you have conflicting software. Anyway praise DCD for his latest because he has saved many peoples faces from my knee.
FYI, DCD has a post on this board with his intentions of going to the Diamond. On PPCGeeks, there is at least 5 ROM developers working on the Touch Pro CDMA and they all seem to be headed in that direction. I'm not sure what GC is planning on upgrading to. I expect the titan specific development to go away in the next 6 months, but there is always the more generic development of just Windows Mobile apps on this board as well as others that will continue.
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What is your phone of choice now adays?
i still have the titan. i'm trying to get a diamond. not getting raphael.
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DCD:
i have made a raphael kitchen and its no different from diamond. just some different oemapps.
i dont need the keyboard or care about the ram. i get the diamond cheaper and its thinner. the keyboard driver on titan is dissapointing to the point that i wish i had bought vogue (plus android doesnt work on my titan..). i do my typing at a pc, i only need to type on my phone when im driving, and the qwerty doesnt help there.
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Some of the people working on the Touch Pro.
SSPL, HSPL, relocker made by cmonex, Wrappers by olinex, SD flasher and relocker (coming soon) by no2chem. thanks to NexVision (btw I'm really sorry), zule/Shadowmite and no2chem for testing!!!
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The core team is made up of Astainhellbring, LennySh, Olipro, Cmonex, MrVanx, LTxda and a few others Also joining us is a local favorite, no2chem. Some of these names you've heard and some you haven't but rest assured, it's all about quality and professionalism here.
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no2chem already has his Touch Pro and is working on ROMs for it.
I picked up a Sprint Touch Pro today, so I thought I’d write about my experience with it thus far, and what the future might hold for it…
The Sprint Touch Pro is, dare I say, the best phone you can buy for the CDMA market. I’d go even further to say that the Sprint Touch Pro is the best phone you can buy in the United States. Yes, AT&T has the Fuze, which is essentially the same thing, with nicer looks, you’ll be locked to AT&T’s poor excuse for a data network. Granted, its not nearly as bad as T-Mobile’s nonexistent network, you’ll probably get only sub-par speeds on AT&T, as their HSDPA deployment is rather weak. Sprint, on the other hand, has EvDO well deployed in pretty much all metropolitan areas. On top of that, Sprint’s data plan is very affordable, while AT&T’s data plan costs a ridiculous $60/month. But enough about the carrier, and more about why this phone is pure bliss…
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Yep, if you are bored and bothered by 64 megs, its time to jump ship while there is still demand. I sold my mogul for ~$200 on ebay a few weeks ago.
Yea, I know I just hate to drop the money now with great devices on the way, like I said my buddie's diamond is very laggy so I'm not really interested in droping $600 for something that is like stepping from mustang 6 cylinder mustang to a GT. By all means it is a much better device but still I think the screen could be larger, could have more memory, could have a less buggy ui (which dcd will probably work out), could have more expandable memory, plus I'm cdma which means I don't get that cool diamondish look. I think I'm going to have to just stick my thumb in my ass and wait for cdma's next big improvement which I think we'll happen sooner than later. I am hoping android will be a more widely used platform, as it looks to have a lot of potential.
I have been a loyal T-mobile customer since 2003, so when I had to move to Iowa, I tried really hard to live with the local roaming partner and my G1. After many problems with my service and signal strength at home, I decided to move on. I want to give T-mobile credit here, because I had 15 months left on my contract and they waived the ETF. Thanks to them and here is a rare story for everyone of some good customer service reguarding ETFs. I travel out of the country a few times a year, so I wanted a GSM phone that I could take with me. In my area, that really only left me with the roaming partner I had been frustrated with, (Iowa Wireless) and AT&T. Timing was just right, so I went ahead and bought 2 3GS iPhones for my wife and I. I did get my G1's unlocked and they are for sell if anyone's interested, (one rooted, one stock, both black, one has a small ding from a drop, the other's perfect, make an offer) but I've always wanted to try an iPhone out for myself and this just worked out well for us. I love Android, the open-ness of it, the customization possible and the general ability to tinker and hack it is very appealing to me. That being said, the 3GS is a great phone. The video recording is the best on any phone I've ever used or seen firsthand. I'm sure some of the unlocked HTC or Nokia phones that cost 400, 500 or 800 bucks can match or beat it. But for a subsidized US carried phone I am impressed. Also, the anti-fingerpring oleophobic (probably spelled that wrong) coating is amazing. A friend stopped by with a 3G iPhone and the difference was amazing. Also the speed difference is very very noticable. People here bash some ROM's for being too slow or not "snappy" enough compared to others. The difference between a 3G and te 3GS is way more than any difference I experienced with the roms I tried on my G1. I know this is a HTC dream forum, but as a big Android fan, I wanted to share my experience with the switch. Now after the HTC Hero comes out, among many other different versions of Android phones, I'd place my bets on them. For now, however, the new iPhone is hard to beat in my opinion.
Also, I have not posted very many times as I rarely have any useful input that hasn't already been shared, but I have used this forum so much for the last year. Thanks to everyone who contributes here. Without XDA the G1 and Android wouldn't be near the phone and platform they are.
ive got a g1 and a iphone 2g. i like both of them a lot but even the iphone 2g is a better and faster phone than tha g1
The reason I liked my G1 is totally different than why I like my iphone. Honestly, my G1 was almost a hobby by itself. This started when I got my old Nokia 5300 and started tinkering with it. Then I got a T-mobile Shadow / HTC Juno. Windows Mobile is kind of a pain in the ass, but there's no questioning all the capabilities you can get on your phone if you're patient enough. With Android it was all about what can my phone do next? With the iphone its, damn, this phone actually made my day easier and more enjoyable. So far I use my iphone's capabilites more than I did the G1.
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The reason I liked my G1 is totally different than why I like my iphone. Honestly, my G1 was almost a hobby by itself. This started when I got my old Nokia 5300 and started tinkering with it. Then I got a T-mobile Shadow / HTC Juno. Windows Mobile is kind of a pain in the ass, but there's no questioning all the capabilities you can get on your phone if you're patient enough. With Android it was all about what can my phone do next? With the iphone its, damn, this phone actually made my day easier and more enjoyable. So far I use my iphone's capabilites more than I did the G1.
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I guess in this sense its arguable that the iPhone's reliability factor beats the G1. However, I think if we all dropped the custom ROMs and Apps2SD we might be able to gain that reliability factor the iPhone has through the stock ROMs. I don't see many people flashing custom ROMs onto iPhones now ;D
True, we are all blazing ahead with custom G1 roms that aren't as clean or ultimately reliable as the OEM's (although once again the custom roms are a huge part of why I think we all love android). I never really had a problem with reliability on my G1. I kept a copy of a ROM I knew worked well at all times on my sd card and only had to use it once when apps2sd went a little haywire one day. I just don't feel the need to modify the iphone as much as I did with the G1. The one thing I wasn't looking foward to was giving up the G1's actual keyboard. This has proven to be easier than I thought it would be. I can type pretty fast on the iphone. Not as quick or error free as my G1, but it's getting easier and hasn't been the stubling block I thouth it would be. I am a huge google user though and I miss the close connectivity the G1 had more than anything so far.
Seriously? This discussion AGAIN?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=527614
The big thing is that the G1 LETS us modify it, the iPhone... does not.
g1 has potential to be great but is hindered by internal specifications by the devices in which their released with. as soon as there is a phone with the same internal specs as the iphone whatever generation it may be then we will see android pure potential.
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g1 has potential to be great but is hindered by internal specifications by the devices in which their released with. as soon as there is a phone with the same internal specs as the iphone whatever generation it may be then we will see android pure potential.
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i think thats called the HTC Hero
never had the I phone, but i had many clones and many touch phones in the last 2 years and have many friends with the i phone 3g 3gs and there sorry as in the look and fell they are a nice device. as in speed pssst. my G1 smoked any i phone on 3g with stocked webkit and there browser and on wifi they where still lodading java pics and i was all ready browsing face book. and now with the rooting vs pawing or what ever it is that u do to unlock the i phone remember the first unlocked i phone had to be cracked open and rewired. the first g1 was a change in a bash file directory lol. The i phone is the jessus phone dont get me wrong but the g1 and android are the gods that every person prays to when there phone is stolen broken or lost.
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i think thats called the HTC Hero
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Not really, the htc hero is identical to the dream except for double the flash/ram and it doesn't have a keyboard. Junk in my opinion.
The Sony X2 looks interesting though, assuming that it'll be possible to root/customize it and ditch their goofy UI.
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Not really, the htc hero is identical to the dream except for double the flash/ram and it doesn't have a keyboard. Junk in my opinion.
The Sony X2 looks interesting though, assuming that it'll be possible to root/customize it and ditch their goofy UI.
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one word...."Rachel"
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one word...."Rachel"
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Yeah, except no hard keyboard, no call buttons, and no trackball/d-pad. Its like one step forward, three steps back.
Hello all, please excuse the ignorance of this post. I have been an Iphone user from day one of the 2g Iphone, currently having a 3g one. Getting a little tired of the Iphone, and have tried Win Mo on a Touch Diamond (dont hate me but I wasnt a fan of the OS). I have been looking at the vids of Hero on www.coolsmartphone.com, and starting to become quite taken. Was just curious if anyone out there is an Iphone user switching to Android OS, in particular the Hero. Really just looking for some opinions, and I am not trying to start an Iphone haters thread, just looking for some advice.
Although I'm not a huge dan of the iPhone, I much prefer its software to Android. I'll set aside the iTunes store and bandwagon effects (when people develop for mobile, they develop for iPhone) for now.
I feel that Android has too many buttons. There's an end, home, and back button. I'm not always sure which one to press. Also, it has multitasking without and inbuilt task manager. I don't know how to quit vs. hide an app. I think its app specific.
That said, the Hero software is much better than the standard Android build.
I was given an Ion at Google I/O, but I've hardly touched it. The iPhone, even with its own limitations, is still a better phone.
Cheers for the quick reply, still undecided.
I'm not quite an iPhone user, just an iPod touch. All I can really say is that the iPhone has a lot of great apps, browsing and calendar is great, as well as other features. I've never owned an Android device but I'm looking at the Hero too and like how customizable it is. I guess I just want to try something different.
I have never owned an iphone but been a LONG term Winmob user. I moved to Android yesterday and there is no doubt, Android is light years ahead of the current version of winmob, but, and there is a but, when you are so used to something, even good change can be a little frustrating. My point? If you use and like iphone, and remembering (if we are honest) the whole iphone experience is more visually and aesthetically appealing than winmob (with whatever rom you fancy ) ...and in a lot of areas, more functional, then I would imagine you as a long term iphoner would find the journey to hero/android a little traumatic.
You might like it for a day, then think 'but on iphone I did this', etc.
So, in summary, I have made the leap as winmob was just becoming too dated and for me, the nuances are acceptable but for someone from an already decent OS, you may think, after a while, I prefer where I was.
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Although I'm not a huge dan of the iPhone, I much prefer its software to Android. I'll set aside the iTunes store and bandwagon effects (when people develop for mobile, they develop for iPhone) for now.
I feel that Android has too many buttons. There's an end, home, and back button. I'm not always sure which one to press. Also, it has multitasking without and inbuilt task manager. I don't know how to quit vs. hide an app. I think its app specific.
That said, the Hero software is much better than the standard Android build.
I was given an Ion at Google I/O, but I've hardly touched it. The iPhone, even with its own limitations, is still a better phone.
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Free app, tasKiller - works great for shutting down running apps, just put an icon on your homescreen and 2 taps is all it takes.
I was suffering major app slowdown before installing this, sometimes multiple instances of the same app were running and slowing things down, this app is a god send!
Thanks. I figured there would be something like that - my comments were more in reference to the iPhone v Android discussion.
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I have never owned an iphone but been a LONG term Winmob user. I moved to Android yesterday and there is no doubt, Android is light years ahead of the current version of winmob, but, and there is a but, when you are so used to something, even good change can be a little frustrating. My point? If you use and like iphone, and remembering (if we are honest) the whole iphone experience is more visually and aesthetically appealing than winmob (with whatever rom you fancy ) ...and in a lot of areas, more functional, then I would imagine you as a long term iphoner would find the journey to hero/android a little traumatic.
You might like it for a day, then think 'but on iphone I did this', etc.
So, in summary, I have made the leap as winmob was just becoming too dated and for me, the nuances are acceptable but for someone from an already decent OS, you may think, after a while, I prefer where I was.
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Although I will agree with some of your points othese I wont.
I find that andriod is more asthetically pleasing than the iPhone and when you state that the poster would think "the iphone did this" they will also think wow my iphone didnt do this...
To the original poster, why dont you take a trip to t-mobile and try their phone before you buy, only you will know what you prefer.
I used to be an iphone user and hated it after about a week, the main issue for me seemed to be multitasking, amazing how much I use that.
Anyways just my opinion, each to their own, but dont discard the Hero nor should you leap into buying one, read, read, read and try in store.
Certainly, do not discount the Hero, it is a beautiful piece of tech.
If it helps you any, I kept my Hero for 3 days, then returned to the Kaiser. I have sent the Hero back.
Now, is the Kaiser better? As a tech experience, NOT a chance, the Hero is much better. As a functional tool, the Kaiser is more (for me).
Example, it syncs locally, completely flawlessly. The Satnav apps on it are mature and established, if truth also be told, I found an onscreen keyboard not a patch on a hardware one. These are key reasons I need my phone.
Will I go back to Hero? I would have thought very likely. It needs to mature a little, then I will be back in. I will still miss the hardware keyboard though. Pressing a screen is not a patch on pressing buttons. But as an iphone user, that will not be any issue for you.
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I've just sold my iPhone 3G and ordered a HTC Hero, I think being a Mac lover there'll always be a thing for the iPhone and the whole user experience - no matter what anyone says. But I just wanted to try something different and the Hero looked promising with the Android and mainly what HTC has added to it. Hopefully it doesn't let me down! If I do miss the iPhone too much then I'll just upgrade in 9 months once my contract finishes!
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I've just sold my iPhone 3G and ordered a HTC Hero, I think being a Mac lover there'll always be a thing for the iPhone and the whole user experience - no matter what anyone says. But I just wanted to try something different and the Hero looked promising with the Android and mainly what HTC has added to it. Hopefully it doesn't let me down! If I do miss the iPhone too much then I'll just upgrade in 9 months once my contract finishes!
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I predict you will very quickly long for where you once were and end up with another iphone. Sure of it.
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I've just sold my iPhone 3G and ordered a HTC Hero, I think being a Mac lover there'll always be a thing for the iPhone and the whole user experience - no matter what anyone says. But I just wanted to try something different and the Hero looked promising with the Android and mainly what HTC has added to it. Hopefully it doesn't let me down! If I do miss the iPhone too much then I'll just upgrade in 9 months once my contract finishes!
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Two thumbs up!!
I had an iphone sold it and NEVER looked back, behind all that hype theres actually just a phone with an ipod!!
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Two thumbs up!!
I had an iphone sold it and NEVER looked back, behind all that hype theres actually just a phone with an ipod!!
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Hahahaha. Whenever i see somone with an Iphone its like Whatever. Its like so not 2009. It just got old for me. I sold my Magic to get a Htc Hero:
I had a G1, sold it to my friend from work, bought a Magic, played with it for 1-2 weeks. Sold it and now im getting a Hero soon!
To start off Iam no stranger to android&to the Iphone/Ipod touch OS(used to own an ipodtouch)
Iam truely brickwalled on deciding if I should switch to a nexus one or a Iphone 3g on tmobile. The reason why I'm still considering an iphone with tmobile is because for 1 my bill will go down a bit&I ll save near 200 on the phones purchase via ebay.
I do love android&the nexus one seems to be what I have been waiting for yet I don't want to be left out in the dark with 500 dollar device. By that I mean it not getting many android software updates. The only thing I can say I don't like about android 100% is the app market( I'm a sucker for games)
But all aside I just don't want to make the wrong choice as ill be starting my college classes in mid march&I need a new phone to see me thru. Currently I'm on a tmo g1&I havehad it for a year now. Its been dropped a few times&has its scares&I have maxed it out to my taste with custom roms.......but the time has come for a new device.
I welcome all help&opinions(esp if you have used both devices)
Firstly, the iPhone won't get 3G on T-Mobile bands.
I myself upgraded from a G1, and while I miss the hardware KB (mostly for SNES) the upgrade is great. All the things the G1 could technically do, this thing can do while running 5 other apps without any lag.
You're pretty much right about the games, but Polarbit has a handful of cool ones in 3d now that run great on the Nexus, and really show it off. Armageddon Squadron (dumb name) is a great WWII flying game where you can even dogfight online (though nobody ever seems to play). However, SNESoid is pretty much crippled right now that took away a lot of the gaming potential.
Eventually, however, it will have Flash 10.1 support, which will unlock a nearly infinite catalog of games online. Granted, Flash games aren't the most engaging.
I've been playing HomeRun Battle 3d on my nexus all day, so hard to put down.
you cant compare a Nexus One and iPhone 3G but u can compare it to a 3GS, i would go for that if u decide to take the iPhone route, the 3Gs is soo much better than the 3G
anyways i was in the same boat, i wanted the 3Gs but I was dying for and Android device, passed on the Nexus one ofr now, and saved 300 bucks and got a myTouch3G instead, i am still gonna in the market for a high powered ANDROID device but this is fine for now. SOmeone just put it to me like iPhone is for Paris Hiltons nowadays, its glamor. All the smart DEVs use the ANDROID platform
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you cant compare a Nexus One and iPhone 3G but u can compare it to a 3GS, i would go for that if u decide to take the iPhone route, the 3Gs is soo much better than the 3G
anyways i was in the same boat, i wanted the 3Gs but I was dying for and Android device, passed on the Nexus one ofr now, and saved 300 bucks and got a myTouch3G instead, i am still gonna in the market for a high powered ANDROID device but this is fine for now. SOmeone just put it to me like iPhone is for Paris Hiltons nowadays, its glamor. All the smart DEVs use the ANDROID platform
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Well said... the glamour bit.
I have 2 phones, a nexus one and an iphone 3gs.
IMHO, the nexus 1 is where the iphone was about a year ago, ie it's missing some functions (although you can add most of those through 3rd party apps and of course, the cooks are always making it better.)
HOWEVER, I love both phones. The thing with the Nexus is that once you root it etc, the possibilities are endless, just like when you jailbreak, but jailbreaking is easier than rooting (again imho) but you really get to know and love your phone once you have to figure out how to do things like fastbooting this and terminal into that etc...
There is one thing to keep in mind, the next phone is always around the corner and there could be a completely new iphone announced soon. Apple is having an event on the 27th of Jan, so maybe hold off on deciding until you hear what Stevy has to say
Either way, I think you'll be happy with either choice you make
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I have 2 phones, a nexus one and an iphone 3gs.
IMHO, the nexus 1 is where the iphone was about a year ago, ie it's missing some functions (although you can add most of those through 3rd party apps and of course, the cooks are always making it better.)
HOWEVER, I love both phones. The thing with the Nexus is that once you root it etc, the possibilities are endless, just like when you jailbreak, but jailbreaking is easier than rooting (again imho) but you really get to know and love your phone once you have to figure out how to do things like fastbooting this and terminal into that etc...
There is one thing to keep in mind, the next phone is always around the corner and there could be a completely new iphone announced soon. Apple is having an event on the 27th of Jan, so maybe hold off on deciding until you hear what Stevy has to say
Either way, I think you'll be happy with either choice you make
Lou
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Also is it true that if I were to buy a jailbroken unlocked iphone 3g(3gs too exspensive)
&upgrade firmware that I would need a an at&t sim to activate it to rejailbreak then unlock it again?
If true that seals the deal&the nexus will be my choice
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jailbreaking an iphone is easier than running 'fastboot oem unlock' ??
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To jailbreak my iPhone I pressed a button that said "make it rain". Both a pretty easy, but the Blackra1n app is easier for newbies.
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To jailbreak my iPhone I pressed a button that said "make it rain". Both a pretty easy, but the Blackra1n app is easier for newbies.
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That's what i meant...download and click
I'm not saying it's better..just easier
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There is no solution to jailbreak new iPhone 3Gs hardware released after 11/09. Blackrain will jailbreak but when switch phone off and back on again it will be in recovery mode and to get out from that phone need to be connect to the computer and run a blackrain again.
Even rooted N1 can be updated to new firmware without any problem.
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I do love android&the nexus one seems to be what I have been waiting for yet I don't want to be left out in the dark with 500 dollar device. By that I mean it not getting many android software updates. The only thing I can say I don't like about android 100% is the app market( I'm a sucker for games)
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Why are you so worried about not getting software updates? Android has had quite a few updates for only being out 1 year. If you're worried about updates on the Nexus itself, it's only been out for 2 weeks. . .
If your network is T-Mobile, Nexus One hands down. If your network is AT&T iPhone 3GS hands down. If you mean iPhone 3G and NOT 3GS, I would still go with Nexus One on AT&T.
I'm an ex iphone user and htc hd2 (pants) and the nexus one is by far the best phone i've ever had and i've had loads !!!
Nexus one hands down!
My favorite among many is... ask an iphone owner to take a picture in the dark! Oh nevermind!
But without making this an iphone vs N1 battle... Android is the future
Don't let all the bad publicity about the Nexus sink in... it's all overrated, this is an awesome phone
On the question of if you bought an unlocked 3g, would you have to rejailbreak and unlock it using an att sim to get an update...no
If it is already unlocked, you simply install the latest firmware update VIA the right methods. If it started out properly jailbroken and unlocked, and was produced before week 40, you never have to worry about it locking ever again.
Anyway, a little background. I used to be on these forums CONSTANTLY (had an HTC Touch (Sprint) and HTC HD). I then finally switched to the iPhone (never wanting to before, because of the ridiculously many basic flaws it had).
I am now on an iPhone 3GS 32GB. It honestly is the best phone I have ever used. I run a small business (selling smartphones), and can focus so much more now on getting things done, rather on HOW to get them done so that my phone will work right.
I also sell the Nexus One, and played with a customers a bit before I sold it. It seemed good...but sort of beta. Animations weren't as smooth as I would have liked, the device wasn't as fast as I would have liked, and typing was a NIGHTMARE. Since it doesn't have many common implementations of multitouch, I had to be VERY deliberate and careful when typing in order to get it to work right. On the iPhone, I can type ridiculously fast. Since I am used to the more responsive screen, however, I sucked on the Nexus One. That being said, perhaps if I had gone straight from the Touch HD to the Nexus One, I would have never noticed / cared. Even at that point though, I could never be as fast at typing as I am on the iPhone. I can hammer out emails and texts very quickly, and the correction is superb.
However, you are asking about Nexus One and 3G...I think I would say Nexus One for you. I would say 3GS overall, simply because it truly is the best. But between Nexus One and 3G, go for the Nexus One.
1. You are not coming from an iPhones typing experience.
2. The iPhone 3G honestly is just too slow. I've got 2 friends with the 3G model and I can't stand it. The 3GS is really so much faster.
Also, you do indeed need to take into consideration the fact that you are going to use T-Mobile...for which you would have no 3G on any iPhone. However if you go 3GS, the speed of the device can in many times compensate quite well for this, especially if you have a good strong signal with EDGE (used it today).
Also keep in mind that since you will be forced to use EDGE all the time on an iPhone, the battery life will be excellent (although you could choose to do the same with the Nexus One of course - but probably wouldn't).
Another thing, the iPhone is kind of tested - tried and true. All the apps are made for the same screen and res, the same platform, there has only been 3 very careful and slow implementations of the device, they don't usually slap 100 bells and whistles on - so you can always rely on it - ALWAYS.
Also, I do have my iPhone jailbroken, and have taken care of the few faults Apple left, and added a bunch of awesome features.
I'm also told by my suppliers that I should have access to the next gen iPhone sometime soon so...perhaps you should indeed wait as has been mentioned, at a minimum I'd wait until that Apple conference dealyo on the 27th.
But really, I just can't say enough how converted I am. I also installed OS X on my PC and never think about Windows (even Win 7). Apple products really are just SO SOLID and dependable. And fast. It's awesome.
Don't forget it also depends what you want it for. If you want to tinker with it and get into it, a Nexus One is probably again your best choice. If you want an awesome full featured fast smartphone to get things done very efficiently and completely every single time reliably, I'd say 3GS.
Wow. This was the first post I've made on here since I got my iPhone. Truly though, it has been my best phone experience ever, and I have tinkered with quite a few HTC phones for a LOT of time.
I just came back for old times sake.
Anyway, good day to all you xda members! It was good to be back for a bit.
Just a quick FYI, I wholesale and retail all sorts of smartphones (including the Nexus One and factory unlocked (and software unlocked) iPhone 3G and 3GS). So drop me a line or tell a friend if there's interest!
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Not going to adress your whole wall-of-text, sorry about that. Just a little note, a 16GB card does NOT cost $100, it's under half of that.
And as a little counterweight: I must say I enjoy Win7 and Android a lot more than OSX and iphone, but that might be just me. Also I'm not a devout follower of any computer software and I will never convert to anything. If I think it's better for my needs, I will use it (having had WM phones, ipods, iphones etc etc). I still use a ipod nano 16GB as my mp3 player because it's small and has a nice screen (although without itunes).
People saying they are converts to computer software/hardware well... too bad for them imo
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Not going to adress your whole wall-of-text, sorry about that. Just a little note, a 16GB card does NOT cost $100, it's under half of that.
And as a little counterweight: I must say I enjoy Win7 and Android a lot more than OSX and iphone, but that might be just me. Also I'm not a devout follower of any computer software and I will never convert to anything. If I think it's better for my needs, I will use it (having had WM phones, ipods, iphones etc etc). I still use a ipod nano 16GB as my mp3 player because it's small and has a nice screen (although without itunes).
People saying they are converts to computer software/hardware well... too bad for them imo
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Hey, thanks for the input. Would you mind dropping a link to a 16gb card cheaper than that? I have always been surprised they were so expensive, guess I have just been looking in the wrong places.
As for the convert issue...I agree. For example, I was going to drop my iPhone and move to the Nexus One until I tried one out, and discovered that it's 3G will only work with TMobile, and only in the US. What I meant by convert is...right now I have OS X and I have Win 7 ultimate, and I have an iPhone and have had many HTC phones and...In my experience, and for my uses, Apple products have proved time and time again to be vastly superior. But the second the "Nexus Two" comes out and beats the latest iPhone...I'm on board I've really always wanted an Android phone, and really always thought it would conquer. However for the time being, the 3GS 32GB jailbroken has proved the top of the pack for me.
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discovered that it's 3G will only work with TMobile, and only in the US
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Just wanted to address this - the 3G on the nexus will work fine outside the US - some carriers like those in canada dont necissarily use the tmob US frequencies but the whole of europe (on all carriers) and significant parts of the rest of the world does.
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Just wanted to address this - the 3G on the nexus will work fine outside the US - some carriers like those in canada dont necissarily use the tmob US frequencies but the whole of europe (on all carriers) and significant parts of the rest of the world does.
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How sure are you about this? From my understanding, even T-Mobile in other countries doesn't use the T-Mobile US 3G frequency. I was under the impression that T-Mobile US alone used their 3G frequency.
Can anyone help us out here?
Hi guy and gals, I'm new to the forum and was hoping you can help me. I am a current iPhone user but am considering getting the HD2. Now I have looked at the specs on the phone and it blows my iPhone out of the water. But what can I do with that hardware? I can see the potential but I am trying to talk my girlfriend into leaving ATT and going T-Mobile and getting the HD2. But she loves all her iPhone apps. So what are some cool things this HD2 can do?
I appreciate any help or advice you can offer. Oh yea, I'm in US.
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Hi guy and gals, I'm new to the forum and was hoping you can help me. I am a current iPhone user but am considering getting the HD2. Now I have looked at the specs on the phone and it blows my iPhone out of the water. But what can I do with that hardware? I can see the potential but I am trying to talk my girlfriend into leaving ATT and going T-Mobile and getting the HD2. But she loves all her iPhone apps. So what are some cool things this HD2 can do?
I appreciate any help or advice you can offer. Oh yea, I'm in US.
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Yes, the hardware specs are amazing, but you should really consider what you need from a phone before switching, trust me.
You don't have to leave AT&T to get this phone, since T-Mobile's network uses the same system as AT&T (and the rest of the civilized world outside of the US )
As far as features go, the coolest thing I can think of off the bat is the FpseCE, a playstation emulator. Yeah, that's freakin' awesome. Of course, there is also a million-and-one free apps out there, just check out freewareppc.com.
There is also Windows Marketplace, with about 300+ games available (can you tell I'm all about the games yet?)
But in all seriousness, you should pop by google and try "tmobile hd2 site:youtube.com" as your search term (or click here and I'll do it for ya). Lot's of cool videos out there.
Comparing the iPhone to the HD2 is like (literally) comparing the PC to the Mac. There's some similarity, but overall very different experiences.
Hope that helped!
If your an iPhone user you SHOULD really look in to the many user that came from an android or an iPhone platform.
Like Snarksneeze states, there are thousand of apps for winmobut their not as simple to access then due to the fact that NOT ALL OF THEM are in the marketplace and you would need to look for them on the internet, also the HD2 is a Windows base phone so therefore your comparing it to an Apple productand there is a HUGE differences like the phone crashing crashingfreazing and not responding proplerly.
I sudgest trying out the phone for around 14 to 30 days depending the time your state allows you to cancell your contract and return the phone. for me Tmobile is way better than att and HTC is better than apple no questions asked (ask anyone around here) however the apple is a stupid friendly phone so that means you dont have to do nothing to customizing it and it good out of the box unlike the hd2 that you have to spent countless hours looking for the apps and the rom that suits you, but at the end its all worth it
Oh and when it comes to women I say the iPhone its better.I think every girl I dated like or has an iPhone more than any other phone. lol but that's just me
Thanks for the input guys, my girl broke down today and she decided to get the HD2. I told her she can keep her iPhone and still use any apps as long as they didn't need the 3g, or I can unlock it and use it on T-Mobile. But unfortunately when we went down to go pick up our HD2's they were sold out. So, I picked up a Motorola cliq so I could give Android a test drive till they get in some HD2's. I appreciate your input and look forward to asking ya'll many more questions and hunting out the best ROMs. Have a great day peeps.
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Hi guy and gals, I'm new to the forum and was hoping you can help me. I am a current iPhone user but am considering getting the HD2. Now I have looked at the specs on the phone and it blows my iPhone out of the water. But what can I do with that hardware? I can see the potential but I am trying to talk my girlfriend into leaving ATT and going T-Mobile and getting the HD2. But she loves all her iPhone apps. So what are some cool things this HD2 can do?
I appreciate any help or advice you can offer. Oh yea, I'm in US.
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What makes you want the HD2? Is it just the specs? The new iphone coming out in a couple months will have just as good or better specs, probably. Have you ever used Windows Mobile? Its nothing like the iphone and you're not going to get the same user experience from it. My girlfriends still pissed at me for convincing her to get a WinMobile phone instead of an iphone a year ago. Unless you like spending time tweaking and setting it up the way you like, you will probably be more comfortable with the iphone. You have to be somewhat tech savvy to get past some of the issues you might encounter with WinMo. Its not going to be user friendly and work out of the box the way the iphone does. It also doesn't have as many apps as the iphone. Unless your familiar with WinMo or feel like learning a whole new OS that won't be supported much longer, I would definitely think about it. If you have to convince your girlfriend to get it, I don't think she will be happy with it.
Also, depending on your area, T-Mobiles service is usually not nearly as good as AT&T.... especially when it comes to 3G. I have constant issues getting 3G inside houses or buildings. T-Mobiles 3g band doesn't penetrate nearly as well as AT&Ts.
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What makes you want the HD2? Is it just the specs? The new iphone coming out in a couple months will have just as good or better specs, probably. Have you ever used Windows Mobile? Its nothing like the iphone and you're not going to get the same user experience from it. My girlfriends still pissed at me for convincing her to get a WinMobile phone instead of an iphone a year ago. Unless you like spending time tweaking and setting it up the way you like, you will probably be more comfortable with the iphone. You have to be somewhat tech savvy to get past some of the issues you might encounter with WinMo. Its not going to be user friendly and work out of the box the way the iphone does. It also doesn't have as many apps as the iphone. Unless your familiar with WinMo or feel like learning a whole new OS that won't be supported much longer, I would definitely think about it. If you have to convince your girlfriend to get it, I don't think she will be happy with it.
Also, depending on your area, T-Mobiles service is usually not nearly as good as AT&T.... especially when it comes to 3G. I have constant issues getting 3G inside houses or buildings. T-Mobiles 3g band doesn't penetrate nearly as well as AT&Ts.
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I agree with this. I was an iPhoner, but the things that I didn't like about the phone delt with the lack of customization. WinMo was a natural switch for me so it was ok. BUT!!!! I work as a Windows programmer and have been programming since I was 13. I went to school for computers, my father worked in computer, my house has a 2 to 1 Computer to Person ratio (3:1 if you count phones as computers) so I'm not the norm.
My wife on the other hand would have thrown this phone against the wall the day she got it if I hadn't gotten her a MyTouch. That phone is the perfect "Intro" smartphone.
So, if you want to get thrown into the mix, go for it. If your gf/wife is not computer savvy, save yourself the headache of being both a user and an HTC technician and get her another phone. The HD2 is not for the casual phon user