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When the Diamond2 and Touch Pro2 get the Windows Mobile 6.5 upgrade later this summer, it looks like they are getting a new version of TouchFLO 3D (Manila v2.5) that stretches the interface a bit deeper and makes it more customizable than seen on the current iteration. If not on the Diamond2 and Touch Pro2, we'll likely see Manila v2.5 on the upcoming Firestone.
Energy Rom TEST version HD manila 2.5
this is a test rom FROM ENRG
. Here is the link . Test only if you want to try the new manilla otherwise the rom has lots of bugs and it not stable.
http://rapidshare.com/files/24820285...8_standard.rar
this is a test rom FROM ENRG
new manila Rules much better then rhodium version but with some bugs.....
Excelent
For the Home tab, HTC has put forth efforts to bring frequently used tasks to the surface; in this case, the user can place three shortcut buttons that presumably go to a program, contact, or system command. Also, the calendar is still on the Home tab, though we wonder if that section will auto-collapse or simply act as a link.
More screenshots plus a video after the jump!
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It seems that HTC Footprints, first launched on the 2009 version of the Touch Cruise, will make its way to all newer versions of TouchFLO 3D. Footprints lets you associate geographical coordinates with a photo.
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Settings are going to go much deeper. Currently in TouchFLO 3D, there are only a handful of system settings that are skinned by HTC. Now, it looks like most things, down to Program and Storage, Regional, and even Text Input setting are skinned.
new manila 2.5 from firestone Excelent
very fast and now 100% fingerfrindly
more options EXCELENT
The next build of Manilla, TouchFlo3D 2.5, has been leaked, and this video shows it running on a HTC Touch HD. It continuous the replacement of the normal Windows Mobile UI, and it seems all parts of calendar and settings are now subsumed in the software.
Also new is HTC Footprints as an integral part of TF3D.
this is true ???? can´t wait for new Rom with manila 2.5
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5321&cpage=1#comment-28932
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I really can't wait for this. It really does look great!
I hope dutty gets his hands on it soon and can make a nice stable winmo 6.5 ROM with this Manilia, it would be amazing
Jake
agreed jake
not sure why when the dude in the video clicks on the System Info screen it didnt show anything though!
zoomee said:
agreed jake
not sure why when the dude in the video clicks on the System Info screen it didnt show anything though!
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excelent but with some bugs to solve ..... just waiting until new realease
nice...
where we can download this ?
I do not whant install new firmware but update to Manila v2.5
will be nice..
Well if he got it in his HD so could we.. Jeez, cant wait
tetrabit said:
nice...
where we can download this ?
I do not whant install new firmware but update to Manila v2.5
will be nice..
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Test versions are out. I think that we'll see it within a week.
Probably won't be that stable for a bit though.
You will need to flash or imageUpdate your phone.
I don't think that is a HD I think that is the Firestone that is shown in that video is it not?
looks like an HD... i tried it today on my HD and it looks good, but it's slow and buggy in spots. i removed it because i need a stable device during the week!
Totally agree with cortez.i, tried manila 2.5 yesterday and at present it is to unstable & buggy with a number of things not working properly.
Once these have been ironed out though..........
new manila
hi
i use new manila in the "Energy Rom" it's nice and very userfriendly however there are a lot of bugs as the sms (doesn't work), the weather and the clock (you can't add new city) and something else.. for the speed i used "drive pack beta 2" and it goes quickly as the old manila.
i hope someone fix bug as soon as possible.. it looks great!!
dhborr said:
hi
i use new manila in the "Energy Rom" it's nice and very userfriendly however there are a lot of bugs as the sms (doesn't work), the weather and the clock (you can't add new city) and something else.. for the speed i used "drive pack beta 2" and it goes quickly as the old manila.
i hope someone fix bug as soon as possible.. it looks great!!
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NEW manila 2.5 PLEASE ...... even with bugs we want to see and test NEW MANILA
or manila better a manila 2.5 CAB file PLEASE ....
please make a Rom with New Manila 2.5
new manila is excelent more feactures ....
many thanks
masrterk said:
NEW manila 2.5 PLEASE ...... even with bugs we want to see and test NEW MANILA
or manila better a manila 2.5 CAB file PLEASE ....
please make a Rom with New Manila 2.5
new manila is excelent more feactures ....
many thanks
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this is a test rom FROM ENRG
. Here is the link . Test only if you want to try the new manilla otherwise the rom has lots of bugs and it not stable.
http://rapidshare.com/files/24820285...8_standard.rar
this is a test rom FROM ENRG
new manila Rules much better then rhodium version but with some bugs.....
Excelent
Tried the ROM with TF3D v2.5 today...
Great layout and adition of a few new things but as everyone else has already stated it's very VERY buggy! Shame...
Can't wait till it's out and stable, although I am more looking forward to the new Sence UI
Because I just can't bring myself to installing a new ROM (call me gutless) can we have a Manila 2.5 CAB file please...
Asp
Well tbh, I rather have one working then one bugging....
Aspi914 said:
Because I just can't bring myself to installing a new ROM (call me gutless) can we have a Manila 2.5 CAB file please...
Asp
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manila 2.5 cab file? we'd all like it to be that easy, lol. but...you can forget about that. it's a ROM flash only... (for now).
I'm looking at the registry values for the new Footprints function on my HD. Seems Manila 2.5 was written for a device with a 3M pixel cam, opposed to the HD's 5M. I've set the value for a 5M function, but that didn't fix anything. I've alos checked FootCam.exe with Dependancy Walker which tells me alot of files are still missing.
If i find the time, i'll post a list of missing files / dependancies.
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I'm looking at the registry values for the new Footprints function on my HD. Seems Manila 2.5 was written for a device with a 3M pixel cam, opposed to the HD's 5M. I've set the value for a 5M function, but that didn't fix anything. I've alos checked FootCam.exe with Dependancy Walker which tells me alot of files are still missing.
If i find the time, i'll post a list of missing files / dependancies.
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One 0one fix the Sms bug ? and weather ....
new manila is realy great much better then rhodium version
can´t wait for a better and stable version it´s realy fast and a great improve
I see it and it looks like some sort of UI mod for Manila. anyone have ideas? is this HTC or 3rd party/dev add-on?
thanks!!!
sense = manila
and plz. search next time you are a member!
Sense - what the heck is it?
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To be honest, I'm not quite clear either, even after searching, and I've spent many, many hours in this forum. It would be nice to have a clear definition of Manila vs TF3D vs Sense, because all three seem to be used interchangeably in the forum.
I wait to be flamed, but isn't Sense just "tarted up" TouchFlo3D with a new snappier name that makes marketing easier? I imagine "Manila" was the original name (an acronym?) for HTC's (at the time) new interface to overlay the WM interface. So, Manila would mean both TF3D and Sense?
Pete_S said:
It would be nice to have a clear definition of Manila vs TF3D vs Sense, because all three seem to be used interchangeably in the forum.
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There is something to be said about having a general dictionary or list of product names on the forum. There are many names that I don't know and it can take ages to find what they are.
For starters I DID search - plz don't assume something
I do agree that a dictionary of terms would be great.
A breakdown of the convention
TouchFLO: The UI modification designed by HTC.
Manila: Version 2.0 / 2.1 of the TouchFLO UI
Sense: Version 2.5 of the TouchFLO UI
Think of it as codenames, very much like internal build names for the devices.
Touch Diamond 2 = Topaz, for instance, in the same way as TouchFLO 2.1 = Manila and TouchFLO 2.5 = Sense.
DeathJester said:
TouchFLO 2.1 = Manila and TouchFLO 2.5 = Sense.
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I have TouchFLO 3.0. What is the code name for that (and don't say 'nonsense'!)
Mike Austin said:
I have TouchFLO 3.0. What is the code name for that (and don't say 'nonsense'!)
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UAuuuu YOU have TouchFLO 3.0 or TouchFLO3D ? Or you are from the future and made some fun with us?
The last what I see here it's 2.6 I think...not sure...
You can share with us?
Mike Austin said:
I have TouchFLO 3.0. What is the code name for that (and don't say 'nonsense'!)
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would be so kind and post some screen-shots/photos?
br,
Chris
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would be so kind and post some screen-shots/photos?
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I don't know how to do a screen dump, so I just took a photo:
It's something wrong build 1913.xxxx and the last it's 1920.xxxx and it's 2.5
pauln said:
It's something wrong build 1913.xxxx and the last it's 1920.xxxx and it's 2.5
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Oh dear! I would not want to upset anyone still busily upgrading to the latest start-of-the-art TouchFLO 2.n by having TouchFLO 3.n
This is the standard TouchFLO for T-Mobile written by HTC. Maybe they started new numbering for T-Mobile? Does the build number you quote relate to all TouchFLO versions or just the TouchFLO 2.n versions?
Manila 2.1 is now called HTC Sense in the new 6.5 upgrade ROMs.
Sense is (AFAIK) the "My Location" bit of Manila that allows you to display the weather for my location on the today screen, it's also the code name for the HTC Hero interface that first demostrated weather on the Today screen.
The first Manila 2.1 didn't have sense, but then it was added so it's manila 2.1+Sense, manila 2.5 has always had it.
Dave
Right, I hope everyone's clear on that now
So, extracting from the various posts:
1. TouchFLO was the first HTC interface add-on to WM.
2. Manila was the second HTC interface. It became known popularly as TouchFlo3D or TF3D for short.
3. Sense is an update for Manila which includes "location awareness". It has also replaced TF3D as the popular name for Manila since v2.5
So, Manila is still Manila, but it's known popularly as Sense now rather than TF3D?
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The first Manila 2.1 didn't have sense
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Hee Hee, that's nonsense then ...
Sorry, Dave, feel free to ban me for life for that dreadful joke
Manila - Finger Friendly Graphic User Interface - this is platform
Touch Flo - The Interface Plug-in for visualization of Manila platform
Sense - the same as Touch Flo but new release
So this is good, in this single thread I am able to get a better understanding of each of the versions of UI.
there also OS versions and I assume that TF3D, Manila, and Sense are bound to min versions?
Microsoft has released the following over the last 18 months:
WM 6.1 - mostly found on non-touch devices but I understand has Touch support
WM 6.5 (Windows Phone branded lunch) - fully Touch aware albeit mostly still has the small buttons like "OK" or "X" or "CLOSE" these are not fingure friendly although the UI does fully support Touch devices.
WM 6.5.1 - NOT RELEASED. this is the name MS us using for an Interim release (between 6.5 and 7.0) this release will fix many bugs and update the UI to with the "Fat Finger" tabs instead of the little "were is my stylus!" buttons. there are a few ROMs out there that have these features and they dramatically improve the usability (IMHO). I am running build 32502.x1 (Shadowline - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=526618&highlight=23502) and also Optimal Champious (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=573896&highlight=23502). the first has Sense, the second does not (no Manila/Sense).
WM 7.0 - NOT RELEASED. According to my Microsoft contacts will be a complete consumer friendly UI. I suspect this is going to be positioned as the optimal iPhone competitor along with a slew of new devices. My thought is the LEO (albeit big) with WM 7.0 will rock. There is no date but I would bet this come out in late summer/fall of 2010. think about MS cycles for other consumer projects. you need to hit the holiday season or wait till next year.
IF you are still running the stock WM 6.5 that came with your ATT Pure, I recommened (but caution if you are not comfortable and know the risk of 'bricking' your phone is possible) that you check out the new builds. 23502.X or greater like OC, Shadowline builds have been running on my devices for almost a week and they are much improved over the stock.
I only wish there was an iphone like (for fat fingers) keyboard out there.
Just to add, there are lots of great keyboards out there and I have tried a couple of them. I am thinking the screen size on the Topaz is the reason why vs. the iphone.
hi guys
i have upgrade my diamond 2 to 6.5 NLD originel htc rom
but i have not the 3 shortcuts on the hometab
what am i doing wrong
how do i get the shortcuts on the homescreen
fjjfrank said:
hi guys
i have upgrade my diamond 2 to 6.5 NLD originel htc rom
but i have not the 3 shortcuts on the hometab
what am i doing wrong
how do i get the shortcuts on the homescreen
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..in the shipped rom htc sense 2.1 is used! Htc sense does not have the shortcuts @the home screen.
You didn't do anything wrong...
If you want the shortcuts you must flash a cooked rom!
...I was wondering the same..why dont we have the 3 short cuts on home screen with the official WM 6.5 for TD2 ??
and why using a cooked rom ? because it seems like the new HD2 will have the 3 shortcuts with original rom, hmmm maybe we will have somethin like an update on the offiial htc website for td2 ?
Shortcuts are in sense 2.5 and this is in some cooked roms only. Sense 2.5 was extracted by chefs from Leo rom I think. In stock wm6.5 there is manila (or sense) 2.1.
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Shortcuts are in sense 2.5 and this is in some cooked roms only. Sense 2.5 was extracted by chefs from Leo rom I think. In stock wm6.5 there is manila (or sense) 2.1.
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As has been said, Manila 2.5 (with the icons) was developed with for the next generation of phones in mind. Phones like the HD2 have better hardware to handle the extra funcionality. Remember there is a trade off between function and performance. If you have to have 2.5 then a custom ROM is your only option and to be fair most of them run better than we should expect considering that a TD2 doesn't have the power of a HD2. That's down to the skill of the people developing the custom ROMs, but for me running a Sense 2.1 ROM is a good compromise.
And i HATE the look of 2.5 so it's a no-brainer for me
Edit.. Just to add that the official WM6.5 update brings with it an outdated version, albeit 'official' version of Manila 2.1. The 'sense' version of 2.1 is something that again you will only get in a custom ROM. It is the official 2.1 with some updated components from 2.5 added to it. i.e Weather on the hometab clock. Depending on the chef you can find the balance between function and performance that suits you best. I'd personally prefer to have a Program tab (like in the Dutty R0 2.1 'Holy Grail' ROM that i use), than have icons cluttering up my home screen.
Thanks for your clarifications, I was wondering if there would be a possibility to use sense 2.1 but with old white and black old manila icons with the slider instead of the colored one in WM 6.5 ? like having a file cab to change that ? any info or help would be nice, thanks .
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Thanks for your clarifications, I was wondering if there would be a possibility to use sense 2.1 but with old white and black old manila icons with the slider instead of the colored one in WM 6.5 ? like having a file cab to change that ? any info or help would be nice, thanks .
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577603
It's being looked into. Unfortunately it seems that most of the effort is being put into customising Sense 2.5 whereas Sense 2.1 is the ginger step-child which is being largely ignored. For the Sense 2.1 users, which i believe is the better option for the hardware spec of the TD2, we have to take what we are given. There are a variety of cooked ROMS using a 2.1 base that have a varying degree of 'Leo' apps cooked into them. (For instance i've seen some using a 2.5 HTC photo album on a 2.1 ROM)
I've been using MaxTTM to remove top and bottom curtains from the Sense 2.1 homescreen but finding 'components' to add to the app which do more than that is almost impossible for Sense 2.1. Again it seems that everybody is jumping aboard the 2.5 bandwagon. For example, if you are looking for a transparent slider that works with Sense 2.1 you can forget about apps like MaxTTM for now.
Ok so I know I'll always have unlimited wallpaper options.
But with this whole TouchFlo 3d thing being new to me obviously the world I know of the old home screens have changed a little. (yes I know I can disable touchflo and have the old back...but I like touchflo).
So I am trying to make sense of what my theme options are for my phone
Tmobile Touch Pro 2 with stock tmobile rom (phone purchased 2 weeks ago)
Windows 6.1
Touch Flo 3D version 2.1
plenty of memory
So what I am asking is a pretty newbish question despite me being a windows mobile user for 6 years.
How the hell do I get new themes now. The whole manila utility has me confused its apparant i cant use it but every theme i seem to find is a manila theme, or it is meant for a WVGA phone like the diamond.
So where can I find some that are Touchflo 3d 2.1 friendly and how do I go about installing them now.
Thanks fellas/ladies hope i dont take up too much of your time with this question
A couple of items you should note:
1. The Touch Diamond's resolution is VGA. The Touch Diamond2 and the Touch Pro2's resolutions are WVGA.
2. Manila and TouchFlo3D basically are used interchangeably.
That said, I've given up on manila themes for now. There are too many manila versions. There's 2.0 (without the weather on the home tab), there's 2.1 (with weather on the home tab), there's 2.5 (ported from HD2), and now there's new versions of 2.5 with documents tab...
Anyway, I suppose the advice is that if the theme is packaged into a cab file, give it a try. If it looks funny on your device, then it's not fully compatible with your manila version. Just uninstall it.
Also, it may be worthwhile to have a look at the link in my signature...
I knew I switched WVGA and VGA thanks for that clarification.
And essentially my options without manila are try and find a theme in a cab otherwise I'll struggle.
I read that manila is not compatable with touchflo 3D 2.1 and above. Or am I missing the whole point of how manila works?
For all intents and purposes, "manila" and "TouchFlo3D" are the same.
"TouchFlo3D" was the marketing term used for the HTC custom interface.
"Manila" is HTC's codename for "TouchFlo3D".
"TouchFlo3D" has since been re-branded as "HTC Sense" to be consistent with their custom UI for their Android devices.
In terms of compatibility, as alluded to before, it depends on the version of Manila on your device and the version the theme was made for.
Are there specific release threads somewhere on here for each version from the creator? I keep constantly running into edits and things like that but I cant find the specific release threads. Thanks for your help so far
I also have the same device only difference is I am running windows 6.5. Just yesterday I downloaded a theme from this same forum. The dusk theme. You'll find it just a page or to past this post. Very simple a lot of cab files. The only trouble Im having is installing the windows media and weather program. But take a look pretty cool theme.
Extracting Theme from another ROM
Ok, so I have a different question. Suppose that I like a theme/icons from one ROM, but like the features/performance from another ROM (and assume they are the same version of sense (2.5 with docs tab.)) Is there a way to extract the theme from the ROM and apply that theme to the other ROM that is installed?
Thanks!!
Ok so the dusk theme is pretty independent (looks like it has manila built in) that should be all I need to start off?
Is it possible to have the combination clock\weather on your home screen with window mobile 6.1?
They've been working on that forever... so far it seems you need one of two things... the first being WM 6.5. Second either a Sense 2.1 OR manilla 2.5 rom running. I dont know if they have made any sense 2.1 or manilla 2.5 for wm 6.1. To date, other then flashing to a rom that has those things I mentioned above, there doesnt seem to be a way to get the clock you are asking for.
I should actually point out there ARE ways of having the weather clock... however NOT in Manilla running over a wm 6.1 stock rom. You could try one of the many other UI's out there though. I know that PointUi has this feature... well one of themes/plugins has that ability..... most notibly the Sense theme.
You should give this a go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618063
Tried it myself and it runs very well indeed