T-Mobile G1 Users, replacement??? - G1 General

so if you're like me you've had your g1 for almost a year now and if you're like me it's still in good condition, but not new. what android phone are you going to go to after this? i havent heard of any new android phones coming to t-mobile

the only other "decent" android phone that T-Mobile has is the mytouch 3g but personally i think that it is a step down, i am considering a switch to Verizon because of the Droid

you can buy a brand new unlocked HTC Tattoo for 379

I thought it would be different this time... T-Mobile paves the way with Android... and is looking to be left in the dust by every other carrier... Again... Still waiting on 3G too... O wait, we do have "Project Dark"... Sigh...
I will be giving them until my contract is up... I hope Cyanogen and the other Devs can help ease some of the pain...
L8r

Personally I think the droid is more goofy looking the the G1 was. I really like my mytouch just wish it had a keyboard. If you are all up in arms about android 2.0 stock MT3G will get it and I am sure the devs here will make sure the G1 gets it as well. Only device that I really wish T-Mo would have gotten was the Sprint HTC Hero phone. That one is awsome, again just needs a keyboard. I am sure there will be more just takes time. And I don't get 3g either but really don't need it edge works good enough for what I want to do while I am out and I can sacrifie full 3g coverage for the difference in cost thank you

I won't be leaving the Dream until there's a decent phone out there with a keyboard. The Sholes/Droid's keyboard may work, but we're still hurting for a 5-row keyboard. Samsung's Moment has the least pain (with a dedicated row for numbers) but it's on Sprint's network. I left Sprint for greener pastures and I have no intent to return.
I'd like to see HTC make another Android phone with a keyboard, and a higher processor. And if they could take a hint from Samsung and include x gigs of internal space, that would be wonderful. A camera flash would help as well, but I won't hold my breath for that, not out of HTC anyway.
As for service, T-Mobile's 3G network is working well here in Minnesota (Twin Cities), so I have no complaints.

Evidently the droid with be using the same processor as the dream, not the snapdragon as rumored. In the end it will not be much better. More hype than anything

raptoro07 said:
Evidently the droid with be using the same processor as the dream, not the snapdragon as rumored. In the end it will not be much better. More hype than anything
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So not the 550mhz thing that's mentioned in the PCWorld review? What's your source?
Bummer, I'm having the same existential questions about my G1.

tp2 android
i've said it before and i'll say it again, the tp2 with android with space, flash, 2.0 and all droid would be perfect. bigger screen, keyboard, tilt and made by htc.

abqandrea said:
So not the 550mhz thing that's mentioned in the PCWorld review? What's your source?
Bummer, I'm having the same existential questions about my G1.
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Yeah, sorry. It was rumored the droid would run the 1Ghz Snapdragon. It will be the Qualcomm 550mhz. This is from boygeniusreport.

has any one took a look at the Nokia N900
Feature: 5+ Megapixel Camera, A2DP, Bluetooth, Calendar, Camera, Candy Bar Form, Edge, Email Client, FM Radio, GPS / Location, High-Speed Data GPRS, Megapixel Camera, Memory Card Slot, MP3, Qwerty Keyboard, Speaker Phone, Touch Screen, Video Capture, Video Clip, Voice Dialing, Wi-Fi
At the heart of this mobile computer is its powerful 600 MHz processor and up to 1GB of application memory. The superscalar ARM processor delivers exceptional power and enables you to run all your applications quickly, smoothly, and simultaneously.
* ARM Cortex - A8 superscalar microprocessor core running at 600 MHz
* Up to 1 GB of application memory (256 MB RAM, 768 MB virtual memory)
* Linux-based operating system
* 3D graphics accelerator with OpenGL ES 2.0 support
The built-in 32 GB storage is big enough to store up to 7,000 of your favourite songs or 40 hours of DVD-quality video. And with an external microSD card you can expand the storage to up to 48 GB.
* 32 GB internal storage
* Expandable to up to 48 GB with an external microSD card
For the first time get high-speed broadband that’s as fast as an internet connection at home. Enjoy rich interactive content across the web and view pages the way they should be seen with stunning full-screen browsing.
* 3.5G and WLAN connectivity
* Quadband GSM with GPRS and EDGE
* Data transfers over a cellular network 10/2Mbps
* Data transfers over Wi-Fi 54Mbps
* Flash 9.4 support
* Full-screen browsing
Capture vivid images and DVD-quality widescreen video with the integrated 5-megapixel camera. The Carl Zeiss optical lens brings added clarity, while the dual LED flash lets you take great pictures day or night.
* 5-megapixel digital camera
* Carl Zeiss optical lens
* Dual LED flash
* 800 × 480 resolution video recording
Powerful hardware packed into a sleek, compact design. The Nokia N900 mobile computer features a sharp 800 x 480 touch-screen display and a fully integrated QWERTY keyboard.
* Touch-sensitive screen
* 3.5” WVGA display
* 800 × 480 resolution
* Tactile and onscreen QWERTY keyboards
* Removable battery
Find your position quickly and accurately with the built-in Assisted-GPS receiver. The Nokia N900 works seamlessly with Ovi Maps to give you the quickest available route as you navigate from A to B.
* Assisted-GPS receiver
* Ovi Maps pre-installed

Put android on that and I might buy it.
I think I'll try to switch to the Droid(if there's a GSM version....) or whaterver Android phone will have a snapdragon(or better....is there one better yet?) in it.....

Wow, that Nokia N900 looks really nice! Maemo = linux distro or Nokia creation?

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Evidently the droid with be using the same processor as the dream, not the snapdragon as rumored. In the end it will not be much better. More hype than anything
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That's simply not true. A 2 second Google search and they clearly have different processors.
I am seriously considering this phone. I have to have a keyboard, I hate not having a 3.5mm jack, and the G1 was never "speedy" to begin with. With Cyanaogen Rom's, it certainly helps, but I would love some better hardware. I like the idea of Verizon simply for better coverage and faster 3g or 4g web, but I here nothing about complaints as far as customer service. I would stick with T-Mobile if some phones that interested me were at least in the works, but every HTC phone has something that keeps me from buying it (no keyboard, no 3.5mm jack, etc).
I love the large display, still has a keyboard without being bulky, faster and more memory, metal case, 3.5 mm audio, what is not to love??

raptoro07 said:
Evidently the droid with be using the same processor as the dream, not the snapdragon as rumored. In the end it will not be much better. More hype than anything
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The first Verizon Droid phone is using an OMAP3430 processor, which is a Cortex A8 based ARM.
The G1 Uses the Qualcomm 7201 chipset, which has a ARM11 based processor.
The A8 and ARM11 are very different processors with the A8 being significantly more powerful. I do not know how well this will be reflected in the end products, but from a processor standpoint they are at least a generation apart. Anandtech had an article a few months ago if you really are interested in the differences.
EDIT: http://www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3595&p=6
should give you an idea. The iPhone 3G is an ARM11 and the 3GS is a cortex A8.
EDIT2: To sort of make this post on topic. I am waiting for a new phone with T-Mo 3g, A8 or better processor, and physical keyboard. Once a new phone comes out with all three I will jump ship. A T-Mo version of the droid would work for me.

Personally I'm waiting for my contract to end, I don't have the extra cash to spend on dropping my 2 year agreement. When it is up, I may switch to Verizon considering their service, as well as the fact that they are getting the HTC Dragon, with the 1Ghz Snapdragon processor.

Don't forget how VZW likes to seriously lock down and cripple their os and fill the phones with their bloatware. that's the main reason I don't like their phones, and not to mention they got the most expenaive plans in comparison. I hope [email protected] will pick up some nice and rootable android phones that I can unlock and use. [email protected] always gets good phones too.

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Evidently the droid with be using the same processor as the dream, not the snapdragon as rumored. In the end it will not be much better. More hype than anything
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That's simply not true. A 2 second Google search and they clearly have different processors.
I am seriously considering this phone. I have to have a keyboard, I hate not having a 3.5mm jack, and the G1 was never "speedy" to begin with. With Cyanaogen Rom's, it certainly helps, but I would love some better hardware. I like the idea of Verizon simply for better coverage and faster 3g or 4g web, but I here nothing about complaints as far as customer service. I would stick with T-Mobile if some phones that interested me were at least in the works, but every HTC phone has something that keeps me from buying it (no keyboard, no 3.5mm jack, etc).
I love the large display, still has a keyboard without being bulky, faster and more memory, metal case, 3.5 mm audio, what is not to love??
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Exactly... totally different processors. And this is pure rumor at this point, but the Sholes could be coming to T-mobile in a GSM version after Verizon's been able to have exclusivity for a month or so... Here's the story from T-monew.com...
http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/please-let-this-be-real/
Btw, since someone mentioned the N900, I was REALLY excited about it when I first saw the promo video MONTHS ago. But Nokia and T-mo are screwing up it's introduction big time. They're simply waiting too long to release it, as there are other phones that I think will be better on market by the time it comes out. Seriously, resistive touchscreen on the N900 vs something like the Moto Droid? I'll take the Droid. Plus Nokia's already working on Maemo6, which will probably come out next year. It seems Nokia is inept at this point...

uansari1 said:
Exactly... totally different processors. And this is pure rumor at this point, but the Sholes could be coming to T-mobile in a GSM version after Verizon's been able to have exclusivity for a month or so... Here's the story from T-monew.com...
http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/please-let-this-be-real/
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I would echo the URL. Please let this be real. It would be my first non-HTC phone in almost 5 years but I have not seen anything in the HTC pipeline that meets what I want.
As far as the N900 is concerned it is available on the NokiaUSA site and has been confirmed to work with the T-Mo 3g. It just appears that T-Mo is not picking it up for distribution through thier channels.

The Samsung Behold 2 has been confirmed to have a 800 Mhz processor. No word on the architecture though. Rumors abound that Tegra is involved, but I'm not convinced.
Anyways, that's a Nov 18 release date and a T-Mo exclusive. So if you can wait 2 weeks, you'll have one slick android device.

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MyTouch Slide Specs are here!!!!

http://androidandme.com/2010/04/news/hands-on-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-slide/#comment-29150
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Display: It is hard to tell from the leaked pictures, but the Slide will feature a larger display than the original MT3G. Our source compared the display with an iPhone 3G S (3.5 in) and said they were the same size. I was unable to determine if the display was AMOLED or not.
Camera: The Slide features a 5 megapixel camera with LED flash and autofocus. This is an improvement over the MT3G which had 3 MP and no flash.
Processor: We don’t know the exact model number, but I did confirm it has a 600 MHz ARM11 processor. This could be the Qualcomm MSM7227 or MSM7627.
Memory: From what we can tell the Slide features the same 512 MB ROM / 512 MB RAM as seen in the HTC Nexus One. The phone should ship with an 8 GB microSD card.
HSPA+: The source claimed the Slide will be used by T-Mobile to promote their HSPA+ network, but I do not think it supports the full HSPA+ speeds. Instead I believe it supports HSPA 7.2 which is compatible with the new HSPA+ network. Qualcomm just started to sample some of their HSPA+ chipsets (MSM8260, MSM8660 and MSM8270), but those have a 1.2 GHz Scorpion processor which is faster than what is used in the Slide.
Battery: 1300 mAh as reported earlier.
Operating system: This was already known, but the Slide has the latest Android 2.1 firmware (still kernel 2.6.29) and HTC’s new Sense UI. All of the latest Sense UI features like Leap are included, but the UI has been tweaked to T-Mobile’s liking. It is the same UI as the leaked Espresso ROM that was revealed earlier this year. Users can select between 5-7 home screens.
Hardware extras: The Slide features a proximity and light sensor. The external speaker is much louder than the original MT3G. An optical trackpad is used in place of the trackball.
Multitouch: The Browser, Gallery, and Maps applications all support pinch zoom.
Live Wallpapers: Sorry, these are not supported. This is not that big a surprise considering the processor is ARM11 based.
Accounts & sync: Since the device is Android 2.1, it supports multi accounts. There were a few new additions not seen on my Nexus One. Flickr is now an integrated account you can sync. There is also the option to sync your T-Mobile account so they can store your photos.
Software extras: Lots of T-Mobile bundled apps like AppPack, My Account, and more. There is a myTouch Music app which is a semi-clone of Pandora. Quick Office is included along with some games like Abduction. None of the bundled apps can be removed at this time. Swype is the default virtual keyboard, but users can switch to the HTC keyboard or a new one called Dragon Dictionary.
Gaming: Our unofficial gaming benchmark for mid-range Android phones has become Raging Thunder 2. The game was designed for high-end phones like the Droid and N1, but the source claims it plays at an acceptable frame rate on the Slide. This is a surprise because we tried the game in our Motorola Devour review (also 600 MHz ARM11) and it was not playable. The additional RAM found in the Slide could be the reason for the performance boost.
Overall impressions: Our source claims they were extremely satisfied with the Slide (and they came from the G1). The phone is slimmer than the G1 which is nice for those considering an upgrade. The performance of the Sense UI was great and no lag was experienced on the home screen. The battery life is typical of any Android phone and got them through the day.
I like it! Except... I'm so used to touch screen. I don't want the keyboard lol. I'm sure those who love their g1 might like this though
KAwAtA said:
I like it! Except... I'm so used to touch screen. I don't want the keyboard lol
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Used to the touchscreen? I hate it man. It works great when I am not using it but when I need to use it, it decides to break and lag like hell. I'm waiting for a cool keyboard android phone.
i have seen the leaked photos and with the specs..sounds like a decent phone...still not a nexus but i would use it....if i hadnt
gotten the MT3G.
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UberMario said:
Used to the touchscreen? I hate it man. It works great when I am not using it but when I need to use it, it decides to break and lag like hell. I'm waiting for a cool keyboard android phone.
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true, it does lag sometimes which pisses me off, but like i said.. I got used to it hahaha
i read at the same site that they dont get lag but this is defennitly my next phone especially with sense
Wow, I'm feeling a bit of buyers remorse for the Mytouch 1.2 now...
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Wow, I'm feeling a bit of buyers remorse for the Mytouch 1.2 now...
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I wish I could even get that feeling... too bad Carriers here have such old old phones. If only I was rich enough to buy them upfront and have it shipped from the states!
not sure if i really need a physical keyboard anymore now that i'm so use to swype. Well i guess it'd be useful for like NES emulators.
im sellin my mytouch for this im gonna buy this unlocked so im wondering what the price is unlocked
Like I posted before in the HTC Dream section. I like this phone a lot. Playing around with it felt real snappy and the keyboard felt quite amazing.
Its the perfect replacement for now from the G1 even though the processor isn't the most impressive piece of hardware by any means. Should suffice for now.
I'll be buying the white one as its super sweet.
This was taken from someone who posted on another site but seems legit:
I work for T-Mobile and am supposed to be getting one of these soon as part of a MyTouch Champion promotion. I was also a a meeting this evening a rep had already received his, and from everything I see, it flat out flies! I know the processor isnt much of an increase, but HTC has done something right because the multitouch seemed really responsive and the new Sense looks clean. I was also told at the meeting that the processor is actually 700 MHz, not 600, so take it for what it’s worth, but I’ll be more than happy to post again once I receive mine.
I've already sold my MT3G to cover some bills and I'm gonna replace it with this next month. May 17th needs to hurry up and I hope the date sticks!
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Like I posted before in the HTC Dream section. I like this phone a lot. Playing around with it felt real snappy and the keyboard felt quite amazing.
Its the perfect replacement for now from the G1 even though the processor isn't the most impressive piece of hardware by any means. Should suffice for now.
I'll be buying the white one as its super sweet.
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I disagree. It's out of date from day 1 for power users. I couldn't commit myself to an 18 month contract for this. Really need a high end phone with QWERTY.
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I disagree. It's out of date from day 1 for power users. I couldn't commit myself to an 18 month contract for this. Really need a high end phone with QWERTY.
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Being a power user myself, I disagree with your first statement. Even my Mytouch 1.2 with it's 528 MHZ processor runs applications well. I mean, a 1 GHZ Snapdragon would be nice, but just because it doesn't have the highest end specs doesn't mean it's already outdated. Besides, if you can't live with that for 18 months, switch to Even More Plus and buy it off contract, or just don't buy it at all.
I might buy the Mytouch Slide, if it can become rooted and not be a PITA like the Mytouch 1.2.
I have the MyTouch Slide...can't wait for someone to root it because lack of apps2sd is my only complaint.
Like I posted before in the HTC Dream section. I like this phone a lot. Playing around with it felt real snappy and the keyboard felt quite amazing.
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I disagree. It's out of date from day 1 for power users. I couldn't commit myself to an 18 month contract for this. Really need a high end phone with QWERTY.
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speed also lays in the os/partitioning.
bloatware or a bad os will slow down even the scorpion 1.2ghz..also idk about the cell cpu but speed also comes from the fbs & clock on the ram. htc may have done some nice programig to speed it up.
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guitarfreak846 said:
I have the MyTouch Slide...can't wait for someone to root it because lack of apps2sd is my only complaint.
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How did you already get it?
Family that works inside TMO...the gave me the handset as a gift.
it official! htc posted it on their facebook and the mytouch site has the coming soon
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Will you upgrade to MyTouch Slide

I just seen that T-Mobile has finally announced that the release date is June 2nd. I have been waiting for a new Android phone from T-Mobile that has a keyboard. I'm wondering how many of the loyal G1 users are planning on upgrading to this phone or will be waiting for something better.
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones...T.z_searchProduct=myTouch%99+3G+Slide+-+White
Im def getting one for my bday, love the design of this thing. I dont care if it doesnt have an emerald,dragon,scorpion in it either.
I will definitely not be getting this. I had a chance to try out the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 while in India, and I liked it. While it was only running 1.6, SE's custom UI was fantastic and smooth. I may get that or another offering -- there're certain requirements I need, such as a physical keyboard. I've not read the specs on the MyTouch Slide, but if this Engadget post is true, it'll be worth it to skip over this phone (at least, for an advanced user--this phone and it's predecessor seem to be targeted toward mid-range users).
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...and we suspect that the lack of a more modern CPU (the Slide has an older generation Qualcomm chip) is going to spell trouble just around the corner.
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/t-mobile-mytouch-3g-slide-official-android-2-1-qwerty-coming/
EDIT: These may be the possible specs:
-600 MHz ARM CPU processor
-512 MB RAM
-512 MB on-board storage
-8 GB MicroSD card included in the vox
-Android 2.1 with HTC Sense and multi-touch support
-5 Megapixel autofocus camera with LED flash
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http://tmobilemytouch3g.blogspot.com/2010/04/mytouch-slide-specs.html
Again, I'd say average(?) for a mid-range phone. It's all relative to what a person is looking for in a phone/what their uses are.
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Mytouch Slide
-3.4 inch HVGA display
-600 MHz ARM CPU processor
-512 MB RAM
-512 MB on-board storage
-8 GB MicroSD card included in the box
-Android 2.1 with HTC Sense and multi-touch support
-5 Megapixel autofocus camera with LED flash
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Moto Droid
-3.7 inch WVGA display
-600 Mhz Arm A8 processor
-256 MB RAM
-512 MB ROM
-16 GB sdcard included
-stock Android 2.1
-5 megapixel camara with flash
When you compare the slide to the droid, which until last month was the #2 android phone behind the nexus, and still in the top few behind the nexus and its cousins, the device actually stands well on its own. The droid sold well over a million units. The slide has double the ram and half the pixels of the droid, meaning it will work extremely fast. The rest of the specs seem almost exactly the same.
I would get the phone only if cyanogen gets it.
I so wanted to get a MyTouch Slide... but then HTC Vision (http://www.gsmarena.com/qwertyfied_htc_vision_in_the_works_comes_with_android-news-1677.php) was caught by some people as a possible QWERTY Desire! Now I am going to wait for that... Having to suffer with G1's low end CPU for so long, I am not going to change to a minor increase in CPU spec... going for at least a Snappy!
Hey look! A phone that comes out two years after the G1 with only *slightly* better hardware when there are superphones out on other carriers selling for cheaper! Epic fail, TMO. This rumored "project emerald" phone, on the other hand, better have some balls or i'll have completely lost faith in them.
I got my hands on a Slide about 3 days ago in a T-Mo store.. not really impressed.. I did a side by side comparison of what it could do and what I could do and with speed. minor minor speed difference.. Slide beat my old ass g1 by maybe a 1/4 sec while loading apps and running videos and music..
Plus the Slides keyboard feels icky and small. I'd have to use the Swype with that phone.. but wait.. my phone has Swype too..
I have no good reason to waste any of my 3 T-Mo upgrades until something better comes along.
im waiting for the big project emerald phone until then Ill rock CM 5 ON MY G1
slide
I like the idea of this phone, My G1 is dying slowly and im not looking to spend $500 on a phone when i have better things to do with $500. So I'll probably be getting this, only thing I absolutly can't live without is the tethering. So, im praying that the mytouch slide with be...
A) easy to root
B) use almost the same roms as the mytouch 3g
C) be supported by cyanogen or another awesome rom maker here thet isnt into all the fluff BS.
Ill be getting this as long as I can teather.
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I like the idea of this phone, My G1 is dying slowly and im not looking to spend $500 on a phone when i have better things to do with $500. So I'll probably be getting this, only thing I absolutly can't live without is the tethering. So, im praying that the mytouch slide with be...
A) easy to root
B) use almost the same roms as the mytouch 3g
C) be supported by cyanogen or another awesome rom maker here thet isnt into all the fluff BS.
Ill be getting this as long as I can teather.
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This is a 32A device, so it might be similar to root like the Legend which has the same specs exc the KB

I think a lot of people in these forums and webs are forgetting something.

Lets be serious, now there are a lot of people who are going crazy over the iPhone 4..dude Apple releases iphones every year(and this year only being slightly more spec'd then my 6 month old nexus)....ANDROID HAS A WHOLE YEAR TO ADD EVEN MORE FEATURES..i say i feel sorry for apple..just my 2cents
..not to mention even gingerbread is going to be even bigger to me than when the smoke clear, and when even more android phones come out people will see the light...
I agree with you 100% but you got'a luv that video calling, c'mon who doesnt!? thats seriously the only ONE thing that would make me consider selling my Adrond and my hd2 for an iphone, but then I remeber its only on ATT, they haave the luxury of making their plans sooo expensive due to the demand on the iPhone, I dont like that!
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I agree with you 100% but you got'a luv that video calling, c'mon who doesnt!?
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I dont
It's only iPhone 4 to iPhone 4 and they both have to be on wifi?!
Sounds like crap to me
BTW if you really want video calling without restrictions... get the EVO 4g on sprint and you can call over 3g/4g.
tuppaacc said:
I agree with you 100% but you got'a luv that video calling, c'mon who doesnt!? thats seriously the only ONE thing that would make me consider selling my Adrond and my hd2 for an iphone, but then I remeber its only on ATT, they haave the luxury of making their plans sooo expensive due to the demand on the iPhone, I dont like that!
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Dude like the other person said its only over wifi for all that if you using your iphone over wifi at home might as well use a computer that's why they call it a "mobile" phone should be able to use that feature anywhere. And when skype release for android it will be amazing.
idk about u but im really getting this iphone 4 for sure....as my ipod/backup phone to my Sexy Nexy
xXJay_RXx said:
idk about u but im really getting this iphone 4 for sure....as my ipod/backup phone to my Sexy Nexy
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Heh, funny thing is, I could do the same if I wanted to get locked into a contract honestly. At least, if I wanted a subsidized price.
But honestly, what's the point? I'd rather have everything all on one device.
dont get me wrong, its a cool feature to have video calling, but i honestly dont talk on the phone that much....plus its another way for crazy girlfriends to be nosy ...lmao not that i have that problem
mykenyc said:
Lets be serious, now there are a lot of people who are going crazy over the iPhone 4..dude Apple releases iphones every year(and this year only being slightly more spec'd then my 6 month old nexus)....ANDROID HAS A WHOLE YEAR TO ADD EVEN MORE FEATURES..i say i feel sorry for apple..just my 2cents
..not to mention even gingerbread is going to be even bigger to me than when the smoke clear, and when even more android phones come out people will see the light...
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As much as I hate apple, we can't ignore the hardware specs on iPhone 4. I do not see anyone trumping them anytime soon. Android is a good OS, but apple has very capable and quality hardware to go along with their OS and that's where they dominate.
Buck Shot said:
plus its another way for crazy girlfriends to be nosy ...lmao not that i have that problem
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I can make a gay joke (which may or may not even offend you depending on the team you're on), or a sad, lonely geek joke with this. Tell you what, think of one yourself and pretend I said it.
J/K of course.
arkavat said:
As much as I hate apple, we can't ignore the hardware specs on iPhone 4. I do not see anyone trumping them anytime soon. Android is a good OS, but apple has very capable and quality hardware to go along with their OS and that's where they dominate.
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I hate to say this.. but, by the time apple releases iphone..
Odds are it will only be a few MORE months until either dual core snap dragon OR 1.5 ghz processor.. Some rumors going around about both.
Htc has made phones that have video calln for years..... but honestly whos really gonna walk and talk while stair'n at ur phone lol
Snow_fox said:
I hate to say this.. but, by the time apple releases iphone..
Odds are it will only be a few MORE months until either dual core snap dragon OR 1.5 ghz processor.. Some rumors going around about both.
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First dual-core Snapdragon will be the MSM8260 (the HSPA part will likely lead the CDMA MSM8660). Aside from the modems, they're identical and clock in at 1.2GHz.
Just a bit of a guide:
MSM8x50: 1GHz single core (N1, Desire, Evo, Incredible, etc CPU). Only CPU in teh public now.
MSM8x50A: 1.3GHz single core. Die shrink (same CPU design, but literally shrunk via new technology reducing power consumption and heat output). Due late 2010
MSM8x60: 1.2GHz dual core. LTE support. 1080p decode. support for up to WXGA 1280 x 800 screen resolution. Due late 2010/Early 2011
MSM8x72: 1.5GHz dual core. Support for up to WSXGA screen resolution. (1440 x 9001080p encode/decode, full support for all Mobile TV solutions. MASSIVE overhaul of graphics unit, with it reportedly able to render 80M triangles/sec and 500M+ 3D pixels/sec. Reports have suggested a late 2010 launch, but given that the unit has yet to be mass produced for OEM testing, I don't expect it before 2011.
I wouldn't give up hope that either of the dual-core parts will show up in smartphones. They seem targeted at tablets and smartbooks. It will probably be end of 2011 before we see enough improvements in power consumption to see that kind of performance in a mobile handset.
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As much as I hate apple, we can't ignore the hardware specs on iPhone 4. I do not see anyone trumping them anytime soon. Android is a good OS, but apple has very capable and quality hardware to go along with their OS and that's where they dominate.
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Hmm.. I smell someone who doesn't know what HW means. What HW specs?
Maybe A4 with unknown frequency that was already trashed in its fastest 1GHz form by either overclocked Droid or Nexus + JIT (and will be blown to bits by any future CPU, at least from Qualcomm's line, seeing that currently in its 1GHz form in iPad it's already below the 1.3GHz Snapdragon), and current Samsung CPUs (in Samsung phones) having x3 more powerful graphics (and later Qualcomm CPUs improving the GPU as well)?
Or maybe 5MP camera with LED flash and 720p video recording and front-facing VGA one, that are available in Evo for some time now, and the already-released dual Snapdragon below supporting 1080p encode/decode?
Ah, you mean the display resolution.. in 1/2 year that'll be pushed even further.
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I hate to say this.. but, by the time apple releases iphone..
Odds are it will only be a few MORE months until either dual core snap dragon OR 1.5 ghz processor.. Some rumors going around about both.
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What rumors? It's officially launched, both of them. Here's the dual core:
http://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2010/06/01/qualcomm-ships-first-dual-cpu-snapdragon-chipset
There are devices scheduled to appear with it until the end of the year (hoping that they'll actually make it on time). Can't say if there are any phones, though.
again, I had video calling since 2007 over 3g on my N80 and it was free on my 3 network. LoL and now Steve says "BOOM video calling" and all people going crazy about it. Go to Asia or Europe it´s just normal and something you rarely use.
I use that for my personal freedom:
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I dont
It's only iPhone 4 to iPhone 4 and they both have to be on wifi?!
Sounds like crap to me
BTW if you really want video calling without restrictions... get the EVO 4g on sprint and you can call over 3g/4g.
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Agree that Apples idea of video conferencing is far too limited. If they really wanted to do something right, they could have worked on a standard everyone could have shared, and enabled it regardless of how your are connected.
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Hmm.. I smell someone who doesn't know what HW means. What HW specs?
Maybe A4 with unknown frequency that was already trashed in its fastest 1GHz form by either overclocked Droid or Nexus + JIT (and will be blown to bits by any future CPU, at least from Qualcomm's line, seeing that currently in its 1GHz form in iPad it's already below the 1.3GHz Snapdragon), and current Samsung CPUs (in Samsung phones) having x3 more powerful graphics (and later Qualcomm CPUs improving the GPU as well)?
Or maybe 5MP camera with LED flash and 720p video recording and front-facing VGA one, that are available in Evo for some time now, and the already-released dual Snapdragon below supporting 1080p encode/decode?
Ah, you mean the display resolution.. in 1/2 year that'll be pushed even further.
What rumors? It's officially launched, both of them. Here's the dual core:
http://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2010/06/01/qualcomm-ships-first-dual-cpu-snapdragon-chipset
There are devices scheduled to appear with it until the end of the year (hoping that they'll actually make it on time). Can't say if there are any phones, though.
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I think your smell-o-scope is broken. I know a certain professor who can help you
Processor clock speed is just one of the performance parameter of a CPU and on its own means nothing. I will, actually, go further and say, CPU specs alone means nothing to me. It's the total package that counts. I will buy a 2.2GHz thinkpad over 2.6Ghz inspiron laptop and even pay few hundred dollars more. Because I am paying for the whole thing, the chassis, better hard drive, etc... Inspiron cheaps out and thinkpad does not.
Let's go back to phones,
Show me one SINGLE phone that has these specs ( or even any phone that will be launched within a year)
1) Processor capable of doing intense graphics (OpenGL 2.0, HD video)
2) Display with 326 pixel density (Note: resolution alone means nothing. It's pixel density that costs more money)
3) IPS panel. To give you an idea, 24" TN panel costs about $200, IPS $400
4) Tri-axial accelerometer.
5) Triaxial gyroscope
6) 720p video capable camera
7) front facing camera
8) Gorilla class glass
9) Noise canceling mic
10) Pentaband 3G. I travel and i know the importance of it.
11) Wireless n card
these all together are hardware. not just CPU
Let me reiterate my hate of steve jobs and company. However, apple has not cheaped out on this phone and let's appreciate that. I have always said, HTC cheaps out very regularly. I do not think I need to present any proofs of that, search on XDA.
Having said all this, I like my freedom and I will stay with Android. But i will not wear a fanboy hat to defend HTC or google nor will I post rants against them. But please, lets appreciate what other companies are doing good. that too in a socialized manner.
Im gonna move to the iphone 4 inspite losing flash support but getting a high res display nearly like the first webbooks AND hd video recording WITH A SOUND and not this ****y noise/crap audio the nexus one is recording on videos...
whatever guys, i get both!
hahaha
I have to admit the iphone4 is pretty impressive...but its not enough for me to buy one.
I still love my nexus and flash.
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Show me one SINGLE phone that has these specs ( or even any phone that will be launched within a year)
1) Processor capable of doing intense graphics (OpenGL 2.0, HD video)
2) Display with 326 pixel density (Note: resolution alone means nothing. It's pixel density that costs more money)
3) IPS panel. To give you an idea, 24" TN panel costs about $200, IPS $400
4) Tri-axial accelerometer.
5) Triaxial gyroscope
6) 720p video capable camera
7) front facing camera
8) Gorilla class glass
9) Noise canceling mic
10) Pentaband 3G. I travel and i know the importance of it.
11) Wireless n card
these all together are hardware. not just CPU.
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Hmm, I see your point. But I think it's not that simple.
I can show you phones that have subset of the features: 1, 6, 7, 9, 11.
Be surprised, Nexus supports OpenGL 2.0 and HD video (if you mean 720p). So does Evo.
Evo supports 720p and has front facing camera.
I'm sure you know Nexus also has noise canceling mic and wireless N. Evo lacks the mic.
Display DPI, another axle in accelerometer, gyroscope and glass (?) aside - they're advanced. Might be important, might be as needless as noise cancelling mic (the only thing it's good for, it seems, is not allowing people to speak to the phone from a distance). Pentaband is a function of antennas, which might be supported on current HW (need to ask RF people, don't have enough knowledge to tell).
On the other hand, how do you compare lacking features? For example, being so excited about DPI, how do you compare smaller or larger screen sizes - what counts as an advantage? OLED vs IPS paned LCD - for what reason do manufacturers need to go back, Samsung already proved that OLED can be made to work great in direct sunlight? How do you compare lack of HDMI out, weak camera, lack of WiMAX/LTE support, lack of removable battery (for as simple a reason as being capable to execute forced shutdown, for example)?
I'm far from being a fanboy for any technology. It's just technology.
P.S. And even if I dig into specs of future phones that aren't rumored on the net yet, I wouldn't disclose them on the forum, don't you think?

What phone/criteria will make you switch?

It seems that the majority of Nexus owners here aren't too impressed with the new Nexus S. The manufactor is samsung, the specs are tame, and the hardware is at the current market's standard; more or less. The only reasons I see for an upgrade is for having the status and guarantee of getting future update first, pure google experience, and a slight update to the Nexus One. Gingerbread is moot since we'll be getting it as our last priority update.
With that being said, what device will stray you away from the best android phone ever? Any dual core slut? A hardware beast like the EVO?
The only phone that's stopping me from purchasing a Nexus S is the LG Star with dual core. However, do we know if this phone will follow Samsung's strategy of releasing to multiple carriers? Will it be a pure google flavor? Updates will surely be slow but how will the development community be for this phone?
Honestly my only criteria comes down to which device will be supported by this community. Software is a moot point when you have great developers improving it in everyway possible. I would really like to know what device Cyanogen will fall in love with!
Fairly cheap (yeah right)
Dual core
5mp or higher camera
Sexy looks
Notification led (seriously, why are manufacturers leaving this off?)
Hard keyboard (preferably)
Camera flash
HDMI out
Trackball
Good battery life (I guess this can be worked on by devs)
Seperate audio out jack
Good screen (bright, scratch resistant, non smudge, etc.)
No pointless search button (it just annoys me)
At least 1gig of ram (at the VERY least!)
Decent internal storage
Can't think of anything else.
Yeah... I think ill be waiting a while
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Non-Samsung stock android phone.
I for one prefer Samsung hardware... sure it may be more plasticy than HTC phones, but the hardware is superior. The Galaxy touchscreen is far more accurate and smoother at tracking, can also handle up to 5 simultaneous inputs (MT4G can only do 4 and choppier). You'll never have dust under the screen with their AMOLED screens since the glass is practically on top of the screen, unlike HTC devices. The camera unit is superior to all HTC 5mp sensors (just by looking at it, the aperture is larger). The external speaker on the Galaxy S line is also superior to the N1's, MT4G, G2, etc. - better bass reproduction and less tinny, also louder. The quality of audio through headphones... also better because of Samsung's sound chip. All in all, there's not many things from a hardware perspective that HTC does better. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Non-Samsung stock android phone.
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Camera nexus one is better - more pixels not mpx but some more pixels, sound through headphones is dependent on equaliser and stuff so with CM6 and poweramp u get mind blowing sound, EVO and incredible can handle infinite touches, u can stick any glass to the screen. Thing thing is if glass breaks screen is gonna break 99% and if its not stuck to screen there are chances the display will remain good. It has both good and bad points. Every screen doesnt have dust under it, None of my HTC phones ever did, dont know about speaker but audio through did sound awful on galaxy s
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Fairly cheap (yeah right)
Dual core
5mp or higher camera
Sexy looks
Notification led (seriously, why are manufacturers leaving this off?)
Hard keyboard (preferably)
Camera flash
HDMI out
Trackball
Good battery life (I guess this can be worked on by devs)
Seperate audio out jack
Good screen (bright, scratch resistant, non smudge, etc.)
No pointless search button (it just annoys me)
At least 1gig of ram (at the VERY least!)
Decent internal storage
Can't think of anything else.
Yeah... I think ill be waiting a while
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this and decent build quality, like the nexus one.
one thing i'd really need is a better/louder speaker, the n1 one sucks soooo much.
I'm hoping the Motorola Olympus on ATT will be as good as the rumors - I'm on an ATT Nexus One since March, and have got the upgrade bug for a few reasons:
1. bigger screen - 3.7" is too small for me. 4.3" would be ideal, but I need a phone on ATT because I'm due for an upgrade and I can sell the N1 for about what I'd get a new phone on contract on ATT.
2. better touch screen, the N1 has occasional (although rare) issues with touch screen accuracy, not to mention no true multitouch. (not really a problem, other than in an occasional game or rotating in some apps)
The additional upgrades, such as the rumored 1GB of ram and the upgraded cpu/gpu, are all icing on the cake. Hopefully it'll be compatible with Netflix's requirement for additional DRM on Android phones, and that's gravy on top of the icing on the cake.
1GHz+ Dual core processor
3.7" display
1,024 MB RAM
850/1900 MHz 3G bands
Aluminum unibody design
At least 16 GB of storage (whether onboard, or available slot for expansion)
Better speakerphone
Dual Core!
1GB Ram
3.7" (no larger than 4")
SD Card Slot *cough*
Non-plastic
Stock Android
I guess it's pretty much the same thing as the Nexus One but Dual Core and higher Ram. I'm hoping next year's Google's "baby" will be back to HTC (please don't make it Samsung or Moto)
I know we're all excited about dual core but do you think Android will take advantage of it? Is the speed really going to be noticable?
I really just want dual core for the battery savings aspect and better gaming.
utcarbs said:
I know we're all excited about dual core but do you think Android will take advantage of it? Is the speed really going to be noticable?
I really just want dual core for the battery savings aspect and better gaming.
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You're almost guaranteed dual core will make battery life worse, not better.
For a dual core to be any better, the computation efficiency needs to have a sharper gradient than that of the power efficiency. Or else, running a single core for X time might mean less power than running 2 cores for Y time.
Besides, the reason i hate my nexus one is the abysmal touch screen. It gets confused ALL the F'ing time.
* 1gb Ram
* min. 8 GB internal Memory
* outside microSD Card Slot
* Audio Jack
* phy. TRACKBALL with notification (frozen bubble anyone?)
* sexy design like my N1 <3
Like the N1 the use of a next Gen chip.
Comparable or superior camera/camcorder than iPhone.
SOME kind of colored notification system. Whether led or led trackball.
Min 4" screen preferably 4.3
HD display.
App storage...Touch screen...GPS/wifi/3g etc..batterylife.
None of those things should be an issue.
Give me at least 2-3 of the top portion...and all of Tue bottom I'd switch asap.
Hmmm
The Nexus One is near perfect.
If I had to upgrade I would consider the following:
Sexy Looks
1ghz Processor; probably Dual Core since that seems to be the direction we're heading
4" Max Properly working Super/Amoled Screen
Front Facing Camera for laughs
Enough Ram
Rootable Android
TrackBall or Smart Dpad
I LOVE the trackball on the Nexus. I have a BlackBerry Tour with an optical sensor and I hate it. While it DOES work, it lacks sensitivity and accuracy. Both gaming and office/texting/website entry all benefit from having a trackball. Selecting text on my Blackberry is a pain. Also using a full touch method blows chunks too, similar to the iApple and Android Web Browser method. It's hard to select JUST the text you want.
Other stuff should just work. Also a hot-swappable microSD card would be nice. Although I really never have to remove it using Android, the occasional pulling of pictures and stuff is faster to just pull the SD card = no phone.
Even though I don't currently use the Desktop or Car port, I think the idea of having such is great. I'm wanting a few Desk docks for my office and bed side but waiting on some good prices.
Honestly, I don't see any amount of hardware changes that would make me switch, that is until Honeycomb comes out. The Nexus, while having it's fair share of issues, is getting Gingerbread before even most new phones will get it and will run the new software just fine. So to me there's no point switching to any other phone except the Nexus S and that's only if you want the latest gadget/tech toy. I know alot of you guys drool over dual core but it's not like android is pushing 1st gen snapdragons to the limit yet. I'll let the software catch up to the current tech before I make a switch.
My dream phone? It'd have:
fastboot oem unlock
A trackball, or an optical one but with a rim that lights up (for notifications), a la E71
A processor speedy enough to carry day-to-day stuff, not necessarily dual-core
A LARGE /data partition (at least 1GB)
Working multi-touch
A keyboard (I got used to touchscreens for typing, but I still consistently type faster with my N900, even though I barely use it today)
At least triband HSPA/HSPA+ (900, 1700, 2100), like the Nexus One has, when I have to go to North America (I'm currently in Europe, and no, we don't only use 2100 MHz, we're slowly switching everything to 900 MHz)
Quality materials, like the N1 has
Basically, I want a Desire Z but easily unlockable by supported methods, and tri-band HSPA+. I know it's stupid to avoid the DZ because of the radio, but if I buy it in Europe with the right keyboard layout for my language (French AZERTY), I also want to be able to use it in NA.
For me, it would have to be the camera and hardware of the phone (style). I don't really give a toot about processor speeds.
One phone that really fits my criteria is the Nokia N8 but, unfortunately, the software on that phone is terrible. If it had Android on it, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

[Q] What Are Our Options Now?

I tried the Atrix and HTC Inspire in-store, and while I absolutely want an upgrade, I'm not convinced either is good enough, and am looking beyond to the next wave of Android phones on AT&T, unless nothing better is coming anytime soon.
I am subject to an odd process where I put in for an upgrade now and will get approval in four months, at which point I get to choose a new phone, which means I merely need to know that a phone I want will be available four months from now. If a good phone is coming in 5 or 6 months, it makes sense to wait, otherwise, I can put in now and see, four months from now, if the Atrix's bootloader has been smashed to hell and good custom ROMs are available, and if not, get an Inspire.
So, what good-looking Android phone are here or on the way. Here's what I've been able to determine, with pros and cons:
Motorola Atrix
Available Now
Pros:
Dual core 1 GHz Tegra 2
1 GB RAM
Fingerprint scanner
Front-facing camera
"4"G
HDMI out
Giant battery - 1930 mAh
16 GB internal memory
Highest resolution screen - 540 x 960
Gorilla Glass
Cons:
Past experience with AT&T says that custom ROMs will be few and far between
Froyo (and lack of ROMs means we can't fix this ourselves)
Slow webtop experience (we can't, yet, fix ourselves)
Internet speeds were terrible in store
4-inch screen (not necessarily a bad thing, but a point to consider)
HTC Inspire
Available Now
Pros:
4.3-inch screen (bigger than the Atrix)
HTC (ROMs galore!)
8 Megapixel camera (Atrix has 5)
Cons:
No front camera
Much smaller battery - 1230 mAh
4 GB internal memory
1 GHz Snapdragon single core processor
768 MB RAM
Lower screen resolution than the Atrix - 480 x 800
Lousy speakerphone
No HDMI
Samsung Infuse
Available Mid-2011
Pros:
1.2 GHz Hummingbird (single core, but faster)
8 Megapixel camera with 1080p video
Front facing camera - 1.3 Megapixels (four times the Atrix)
Super AMOLED Plus screen
Decent battery (1750 mAH)
As flashable as any Samsung (much better than Motorola)
16 GB internal memory
Cons:
4.5 inch screen (tablet territory, some may love it)
Lower screen resolution than the Atrix - 480 x 800
Only one core
RAM unknown
LG Optimus 2X
Availability: Who knows?
Pros:
Tegra 2, like the Atrix
Decent 1500 mAH battery
HDMI out
Gyroscope
Cons:
No carriers announced
8 GB internal memory
Samsung Galaxy S2
Availability: Q2
Pros:
Ships with Gingerbread
Exynos 1 GHz dual core processor
4.3-inch Super AMOLED Plus display with Gorilla Glass
16 GB internal memory, 32 GB on some models
8 Megapixel camera with 1080p video and image stabilization
Front facing camera - 2 megapixels, almost 7X the Atrix
Gyroscope
Excellent 1630 mAH battery (no Atrix, but pretty good)
Quad core GPU
NFC (some versions)
HDMI out
Bluetooth 3.0
Cons:
Lower resolution than the Atrix - 480x800
Not yet announced for AT&T (but probably coming)
Looking at all that, I'm thinking that the best bet is that the only true Atrix competitor is the S2, and assume that it will come out mide July, like the Captivate. I can put in for an upgrade in late March, which should give the S2 enough time to come to market and be reviewed, plus the Atrix to hopefully get some ROMs, and make the call.
Are there any other phones worth looking forward to? Is there any other reason to choose the Inspire or Infuse, or to not put my chips on the Atrix or Infuse?
There is always going to be a group of new phones coming out soon. I'd say just pick the one you like the most at the time. If something else you can't live without comes out in a few months (and it will) just sell the phone you bought to cover most of the out of contract price of your next one.
I returned my Inspire to get the Atrix so that's where I stand there.
I would never buy another Samsung Android device unless the show a commitment to upgrading. They tend to just want you to buy the next phone instead.
LG Optimus looks nice, but I hate LG phones so I'd stay away. Generally poor build quality and software.
These questions may be better answered in the General forum, not the Atrix specific General forum.
In here you are limiting your population to people that are looking about Atrix specific stuff.
I'm typing this on my inspire. Saying that, I love it a lot. It is my first android, and in my opinion probably the best way to enter it.
My only complaint is the battery. Even being small, it does power management well and lasts longer than my dads iphone 3gs. (maybe some debate if that's froyo I guess)
With rooting/roms, I'm sure I could make the battery last longer by removing bloat ware and stuff.
the way I see it, phones are out matched months after they come out. Better phones will be developed even after phones are announced. That's what competition does to technology. So why torture yourself thinking about what MAY come out, when months later better suff will be out.
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Good points all around.
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These questions may be better answered in the General forum, not the Atrix specific General forum.
In here you are limiting your population to people that are looking about Atrix specific stuff.
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Perhaps. I guess what I'm really asking is that, now that the Atrix is available and people have tried it out, do they still want the Atrix, or is it worth waiting just a couple more months?
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There is always going to be a group of new phones coming out soon.
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antioch216 said:
the way I see it, phones are out matched months after they come out. Better phones will be developed even after phones are announced. That's what competition does to technology. So why torture yourself thinking about what MAY come out, when months later better suff will be out.
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Absolutely. I think that what it comes down to is:
The Atrix got us all very excited, but the excitement is fading under a number of negatives:
1 - terrible pricing on the dock and tethering policy
2 - Motorola's pointless signing of the bootloader, which only removes value from the device
3 - the laptop dock has a lot of dissapointments (touchpad, speed)
On the other hand, the Atrix is still an incredible phone, and it goes us excited for some great reasons:
1 - killer processor
2 - huge battery
3 - unique features (docks, fingerprint reader)
4 - somewhat rare features (front facing camera, lots of internal [non-MicroSD] storage, HDMI out)
What makes it tough is the Galaxy S2, which doesn't have the unique features, but has everything else the Atrix has and more
Vs. Atrix:
Atrix negatives:
2 - Samsung's are easier to load custom ROMs on
Atrix positives:
1 - Also has a killer processor, one that, when tested, could even beat the Atrix
2 - Larger than average battery
4 - better rare features (better front facing camera, more internal storage
And its own positives:
1 - better camera
2 - Super AMOLED plus screen (amazing bright colors, lower power usage)
3 - bigger screen
4 - Gyroscope
5 - 1080p video
And just one known negative:
1 - Lower resolution screen
So, what this thread should really be is:
Do you still want the Atrix, or do you plan on waiting just 5 months for the Galaxy S2?
My upgrade date is in three days, I'm hoping that they'll crack the bootloader issue for the atrix pretty soon, I will not buy the phone without it.
The only real con I see for the Atrix is the lack of an LTE radio on it, if you get one you'll be stuck with it for the next two years ( unless you want to pay full price ) and LTE should be up and running ( in some areas ) in that time frame.
Even though I've been an ATT customer for 8 years I hold no loyalty to them, I'm waiting for more info to come on the HTC " pyramid " and could switch to T-Mobile if that phone has a bigger battery than the pathetic things that HTC puts in them now. We all know HTC seems to be the devs favorite brand and CM would positively fly on a dual core phone.
After owning a Craptivate I wont even consider another Samsung phone. I don't care how impressive the specs are Samsung will find a way to screw it up. If you don't like the Atrix then just wait a few months for the next great HTC phone. The Inspire is nice, but it' s just a lightly upgraded Evo and cant compete with the Atrix.
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After owning a Craptivate I wont even consider another Samsung phone. I don't care how impressive the specs are Samsung will find a way to screw it up. If you don't like the Atrix then just wait a few months for the next great HTC phone. The Inspire is nice, but it' s just a lightly upgraded Evo and cant compete with the Atrix.
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I love HTC, and really wanted my next phone to be an HTC. But I feel like I can't rely on them to bring good hardware to AT&T. My current phone is their Rhodium, and since then I've seen:
Droid Incredible - Looks great, not on AT&T
Desire Z - Great keyboard, not on AT&T
Evo - Kinda special at the time, but not on AT&T
7 Pro - Amazing keyboard, probably never coming to AT&T
Aria - Wonderful phone, my wife loves it, but not for power users
I felt like HTC all of a sudden decided it hated AT&T. Now we've got two new ones:
Inspire - updated Evo, decent but old hat, doesn't stand up to the other phones released at the time
Thunderbolt - slightly better than the Inspire, not coming to AT&T
I hope HTC comes up with something special by summer, but I'm not holding my breath. I am on my fourth consecutive HTC phone, and right now, it looks like my last.

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