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**Please develop this clever people**

I'm sure many people here agree that it's very annoying when you're speaking on the phone and your ear accidentally opens up windows and programs or even worse - ends the call!
Surely one of you very clever chaps can make an app that uses the light sensor so that the Diamond knows you are speaking and therefore locks the screen.
It would help so much,
S.

The clever people already did it but because we, normal people, are too lazy to search through, can´t see it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425650
...and this is just one example

I'm aware of this software but how does it work within phonecalls? I'm not talking about when the phone rings, I mean post-unlock during the phonecall...

read the post man, it`s not very large and you will find it like I did

The program doesn't do what I describe above, although the idea is brought up a few times in the thread. It can switch off the screen but i'm talking about the light sensor doing this automatically...

The Diamond already turns off the screen when you hold it to your ear (by using the light sensor)...

I thought the diamond shut off the screen on speaking/connecting the call? Plus, it doesn't turn back on without pressing the power button...

the light sensor is not sensitive enough for this use.

:-( Damn! That's a shame.

Blazeitup123 said:
the light sensor is not sensitive enough for this use.
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Interesting, the light sensor of my phone can do this. Initially, the screen turned off whenever I picked up a call. I found it annoying because many a times, I need to use the screen to key in some numbers (pin, a/c numbers, whatever). Then, I used Adv. Conf. to turn this feature off. And I found it even more annoying as I actually hanged up twice by my ear accidentally touching "end call" button. Now, I turned this back on again.... still annoying but less....
I think your light sensor should be able to do this. Maybe you can check this feature on Adv. Conf. to see if it's turned off by accident.

The only things that were turned off in adv.config were 'sleep during call' and 'fast sleep'. I have switched these on and the screen does switch off but is this due to the light sensor? I now use S2U2's feature to switch the screen off as it's faster (screen switches off on connection)...
But, with all these options, I also find it annoying when I have to key in my pin etc. That's why utilising the light sensor so when you take the phone away from your face it switches back on, would be great.

this is really funny! some ppl want this thing off and some ppl want this thing on.
for the record:
the diamond is by default switching off the screen after a few seconds. when i said the diamond i meant the light sensor.
now, from the history:
long, long time ago (about 3-4 months ) the devs here were trying to switch off this feature because if you have to dial one more number or want to switch yr speaker you'll face a black screen (just touch the middle/enter button and you are back in business). some said it is the light sensor, some said it is a timer.....mostly they tried by registry tweaks, don't even remember who was the first to succeed but it was a great victory ...hahahaha
today we have a few options. one of them (the most popular one i think) is schap's advanced configuration. another was is the famous twaek 3.2 (today is 5?).
on the last month we have a few ROMs that already had this tweak built in. i think our friend here has one of those ROMs of them (because he ha sit tweaked already).
m8 i think you can switch this option back to default (switch off the screen) with the advanced config tool.
this one is an example (i think this one was the first):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2278799&postcount=1-tweak no 8.
you can also look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406151&highlight=screen+call
or this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406094&highlight=screen+call
one more:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415356&highlight=screen+call
and so on ....everything a search away (i used "screen+call")

Thanks for the post, my issue wasn't how to get the screen off during a call. It was what causes it to go off and if it is the light sensor, could an app be made so that when the phone is taken away from your face, the screen switches on again.

I agree. I would love it to switch off as default, but also TURN ON when I pull the phone away from my face... I can't understand why this is not the default behaviour. I have some time later on this month I will look at this more carefully and possibly program the solution.

Sprint Diamond
I agree that would be great. My screen on my Sprint Diamond has never turned off during a phone call. I didn't even know that was a feature on some diamonds until this thread. I have tried making a call and then covering the light sensor but nothing happens. So, here is my vote for the ability to get a screen that turns on and off as you put it to your ear and take it away.

just work exactly the same as iphone and the problem will be solved.......

light sensor app like Iphone (incall screen off)

I was wondering if there's a app that allows the screen to turn off when you put the phone to you head? Then when you bring it out and in front of you, it turns back on. My Iphone did that and I loved that feature.

upping cause i'm intersted too

im believe this feature on the iphone is provided by a proximity sensor, you can probable do this with the light sensor but it would only work in the day time bc at night the screen would always be off...

not unless you use the gsensor too? i think if you work with the light sensor and the gsensor..you can get it to work. maybe have it only work when theres a active call.

This is an extremely good idea!

now if I was only a programmer

i'd love to see this feature on my diamond/blackstone too, i always have problems with the cursor jumping somewhere else when taking a note while in call...
theres already a thread about that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=451456

sweet. thanks

I really love that fuction on iPhone as well. I found some program that can adjust the Light Sensor to dim the back light as you want. I never try it but surely not work in the dark. If any news on this issue, pls advise!!

I think the g-sensor is the answer, off course in combination with light sensor. If someone could make an app that would turn off the backlight during an active call AND when phone is in vertical position; this could resolve difficulties with light sensor.

aonavy said:
I was wondering if there's a app that allows the screen to turn off when you put the phone to you head? Then when you bring it out and in front of you, it turns back on. My Iphone did that and I loved that feature.
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There are a couple out there that attempt to solve the same problem the iPhone does.
One I know of is Touchlock Pro - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444215
It is free but it still has a little way to go before it is a polished solution
The other is PocketShield -- http://www.pocketshield.net/
It's not free but I found it so effective for the in-call problem as well as general locking/unlocking that it was worth paying for
I've also, as a developer by trade, played with the light sensor, g-sensor, and stylus sensor APIs and tried to create a basic proof of concept that solved just the in-call problem very well and found that without the approach taken by Pocketshield it just was not reliable enough for me.

fireweed said:
There are a couple out there that attempt to solve the same problem the iPhone does.
One I know of is Touchlock Pro - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444215
It is free but it still has a little way to go before it is a polished solution
The other is PocketShield -- http://www.pocketshield.net/
It's not free but I found it so effective for the in-call problem as well as general locking/unlocking that it was worth paying for
I've also, as a developer by trade, played with the light sensor, g-sensor, and stylus sensor APIs and tried to create a basic proof of concept that solved just the in-call problem very well and found that without the approach taken by Pocketshield it just was not reliable enough for me.
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All these programms are great software but are nowhere near the iphone solution... like i already said, the problem is e.g. that if you are on the phone and the person on the other end tells you a phonenumber you need to write down - the cursor always jumps to somewhere else as soon as you put your phone back to your ear (and then take it away again ofcourse to continue to notice the number).

ive messed with those apps before with no luch for what i was looking for. Simple app...JUST for incall and end call. light goesout..then comes back in. those other apps are pretty detaild

pitchbend said:
All these programms are great software but are nowhere near the iphone solution...
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Very true, but unfortunately this hardware does not have the same sensor as the iPhone so you can only fake it so much.

I'd love to see this developed as well. But just wondering as some have mentioned using the gsensor; what if your laying down using the phone?

any developers out there. this would be awsome. make it simple. only works when the phone is in call. the gsensor sensing the phone from 0-45 degrees and only 0-5% light. seems sorta simple when u look at it like that.

hey everyone. My HTC Touch Pro came with this functionality out of the box. And i really don't like it at all. I think the difference to the iphone is that the screen does not turn back on until the power button is pressed.

millab said:
hey everyone. My HTC Touch Pro came with this functionality out of the box. And i really don't like it at all. I think the difference to the iphone is that the screen does not turn back on until the power button is pressed.
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My diamond does this already?

mine didnt. very weird.

For what it's worth, S2U2 v.1.42 has an option called "blank screen on call" which essentially disables the touch screen and makes it turn off when a call is connected (both sent and received). To get the screen to turn back on, simply press any hardware button. (Note though that pressing the END button while on a call will end the call as well as turning on the screen.)
I've found this feature to be VERY useful and figured it's as close as we're going to get for the time being .

G-off Display

"Description:
With G-off display you can turn off the screen by rotating and holding the phone upside down and holding it like that for a second.
To save battery while listen to your favorite music, simply point your phone downward, light off. All background processes remain.
Require G-sensor found in the latest HTC devices like Diamond / Pro / HD, etc."
Download

Just what I need! but...
Hi
This is a nice app that i've wanted. I know I could use Changescreen as it has a similar feature, but a standalone like this is more preferable for me...
But I just can't download from Rapidshare...
Is it possible to load the .cab here since its only 345kb? or a mirror to somewhere else...
Anyways, Thanks for pointing this App out...

bulletproof_78 said:
Hi
But I just can't download from Rapidshare...
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I haven't got any problem downloading

thanks a million bro...
Works like a Charm!!!!

Installed on my TP doesnt seem to work and no progam icon to make any type of changes?

great idea. tried on my Omnia, works fine. but screen powers on only with Power button

installed on my touch pro, but doesnt seem to do anything any ideas, would really like to have it working am on WM6.5 if that makes any difference...
cheers!

Installed on my Diamond
it's ok

After a call is not working so
only works after soft reset.
Anyone same problem? solution?

Thejackal_71 said:
After a call is not working so
only works after soft reset.
Anyone same problem? solution?
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Same problem here. I have to kill it with task manager and run it again It's faster then softreset...

Hello
how about battery drain pls?

not working on HTC Rhodium (TP2) - also I can't see it in programs, etc. Do I need to do anything else after install?
I got a question are there any options? like on conference call (when using loud speakers - device is upside down), will it ignore the g-off? Because I am not sure what would happend if I would press POWER BUTTON in the middle of the call just to get the screen back ..

Not working in my Touch Pro, too
Using latest WinMobile 6.5.21935.
I also did a softreset after installation!

Mashe said:
not working on HTC Rhodium (TP2) - also I can't see it in programs, etc. Do I need to do anything else after install?
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You don't see it. But it is there. Go to the Program Files and the directory with the same name. Click once on it, and tune the device upside down. It will switch it off.Not ON again.
You can link to it.
I got a question are there any options? l..
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No options. no nothing! It does work on my TD 1
origin of g-off display
Beware! I am NOT the programmer. I don't know who is either. I just found it.
btw ChangeScreen has a "display off" option too.

worked on the tilt 2
it needs dot net compact framework 3.5 and then it loads on startup... closing the title bar that comes up doesn't seem to stop it from working. however, having said this, i can't say that perhaps the tilt 2 didn't have the behavior before i installed this... it took me a while to realize that upside down doesn't mean face down, which is what i had wanted. but having said that, turning it upside down works great because you can put it in your pocket upside down (which basically you might do anyway).
also, indeed, to get it back on, one has to push the power button. but that's good in case the device moves out of tolerance for downward position it won't be going on and off unintentionally--except that even after the screen is already off it will keep executing--i know this because it vibrates when the screen goes off as well, and if i take it out of upside down position and then put it back without turning screen on again, it will vibrate again. this said, walking with it in a pocket didn't seem to keep triggering it, so overall this is a really cool hack.
now for figuring out why my t2 doesn't turn its speakerphone on when placed face down during a call (i was thinking face down should always turn the screen off by way of proximity sensor--which does work on my device because during a call holding finger over ear speaker turns off the display--just doesn't turn speaker on). wait... just realized... if it did then it would have to assume that just putting it to the ear should turn on speaker. so, i'd say what we have here is a challenge... integrate the proximity sensing with the g-sensor to always turn off the display when face down on a flat, reasonably level surface-- and during a call turn on the speaker too.
if this can be done, then combined with the g-off existing functionality it'd be really sweet--i wouldn't have to turn it upside down _before_ placing it flat on a table while listening to music. and the proximity could help make it less worrysome to just automatically turn the screen back on when picked up.

worked on the tilt 2
it needs dot net compact framework 3.5 and then it loads on startup... closing the title bar that comes up doesn't seem to stop it from working. however, having said this, i can't say that perhaps the tilt 2 didn't have the behavior before i installed this... it took me a while to realize that upside down doesn't mean face down, which is what i had wanted. but having said that, turning it upside down works great because you can put it in your pocket upside down (which basically you might do anyway).
also, indeed, to get it back on, one has to push the power button. but that's good in case the device moves out of tolerance for downward position it won't be going on and off unintentionally--except that even after the screen is already off it will keep executing--i know this because it vibrates when the screen goes off as well, and if i take it out of upside down position and then put it back without turning screen on again, it will vibrate again. this said, walking with it in a pocket didn't seem to keep triggering it, so overall this is a really cool hack.
now for figuring out why my t2 doesn't turn its speakerphone on when placed face down during a call (i was thinking face down should always turn the screen off by way of proximity sensor--which does work on my device because during a call holding finger over ear speaker turns off the display--just doesn't turn speaker on). wait... just realized... if it did then it would have to assume that just putting it to the ear should turn on speaker. so, i'd say what we have here is a challenge... integrate the proximity sensing with the g-sensor to always turn off the display when face down on a flat, reasonably level surface-- and during a call turn on the speaker too.
if this can be done, then combined with the g-off existing functionality it'd be really sweet--i wouldn't have to turn it upside down _before_ placing it flat on a table while listening to music. and the proximity could help make it less worrysome to just automatically turn the screen back on when picked up.

sorry for the duplicate post above--tried to edit, then hit save by accident
edit... i just tried screenchange and it in theory seems to do exactly what i want, but in practice, with 2.78 and any sensitivity level and appropriate no light option checked, it turns off the display even if there is light (and lots of it to be sure). i hold the device upside down above my head and the display goes off. i'm not covering the proximity sensor. my proximity sensor does work when in a phone call. i tried rebooting. i think the proximity sensor may be off somehow on my device...maybe htc only wants it on in a phone call? i will have to see if screenchange will work right with the device in a phone call... further posts will go over with screenchange.
btw, regarding the forum... its annoying that my edit made a whole new post in the first place.

cool！！！thanks

proximity sensor speed on Leo?

Just wondering, how fast does the proximity sensor react? Does it turn on also when u move it away from ur ear?
In my HD, its pretty slow, and if i remember correctly i even had to install an aditional cab to make it turn back on.. I remember using an iphone and the second i took it away from my ear, before i had a chance to have the device in eye sight, the screen was on already..
how is this with the leo?

Your HD doesnt have a proximity sensor, it uses a light sensor? I think.
The HD2 one is PERFECT! put the to you ear, screens off instantly, take it away and the screen comes back on.

I would echo the fact that the sensor is perfect on the HD2. In fact, I think it's even a little better than 'instant'. For example, if I switch ears quickly, the screen doesn't turn on (exactly what I want), but if I take the phone away from my ear, by the time I've focused my eyes on the screen, it's on and ready for input. Works like a charm!

I'm not sure I'd say it's perfect. For instance, mine doesn't seem to work in the dark (i.e. in a dark room, outside at night, etc.) which is exactly the time I'd like it to work the most.

good to know that!
on the HD i have to wait a good 1-2 seconds for it to turn on, and its annoying what ur ready to go and input something, but u actually are waiting for the screen to turn on..
closer to the Leo..

My (old!) HD is slow too and I gave up trying to use the screen blanking because it also turned off and stopped me from entering key presses to access menu items in the call systems - even when away from my face.
My HD2 is faultless . Works exactly as designed as far as I can see and I have had many phones. If you are considering the HD2 then I would have no hesitation in recommending it.

tony.wheeler said:
My (old!) HD is slow too and I gave up trying to use the screen blanking because it also turned off and stopped me from entering key presses to access menu items in the call systems - even when away from my face.
My HD2 is faultless . Works exactly as designed as far as I can see and I have had many phones. If you are considering the HD2 then I would have no hesitation in recommending it.
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im not evaluating, it was just out of curiosity, the only thing stopping me from getting the HD2 since day 1 is my current economical status .. im a phone lover also but its still good to know what its improved since the HD.

Problem while on hands free....the phone is unlocked in pocket!!!!!

Hi all
So i got my HTC HD2 nice feel to it....but..
2 things :
1:while i have handsfree on i answer a call as always and the phone unlockes in my pocket a.s.a i answer and then...well buttons keep pushing and calls keep shutting off e.t.c
i called HTC and they said nothing they can do and that there is a 3rd party app to fix this....well i am to "stupid" cause i cant find it..
plz help.
2:Very sensitive screen and i have dificulty figuring out hoe to change that..
thnx allot guys for "listening" hope to get some answers...esspecially for nr1 its a pain....

Hi,
I know you are new on here but a few threads up from yours you would have found this one...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
Take time out to read it and you should find answers to at least some of your problems.
Good luck
WB

The screen is capacitive, so it shouldnt be possible for anything to be pressed in your pocket.

loomx said:
The screen is capacitive, so it shouldnt be possible for anything to be pressed in your pocket.
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Whilst the screen is capacitive, the material of a pocket may be thin enough to still allow a key press to register.
Also I believe the hard keys would still be available to press and could hang up the call.

I think there is an issue with the keypad becoming active while on a call.
I've used this phone since launch and it's driving me nuts.
One of the main problems is the proximity sensor which should turn off the touch screen during an active call intermittently doesn't work.
I called my wife today and cut her off at least twice because of this bug.
There is a reg tweek to reduce the sensitivity of the screen- you have to google it.
SMS is alos occasionally sticking.
I'm going to start a new thread to ask if 1.61 cure these issues.