Hi pals!
all of us that have an imate, we have to turn it on if we whant to see the hour. Im guessing if it is possible to turn off but seeing the hour in the screen. The imate still blocked till you press the on button.
Any one knows?
Thanks
That's... kinda pointless. Not to mention impossible, since it conflicts with "turning off".
If the screen is off it won't display anything, ever. The alternative is to leave your device on, and instead lock keys, but you know how that's a battery eater because your screen's on all the time.
Thats right but maybe, if the backlight is off and screen in black with the clock in white, the battery could last the same.
In any case, if there is no application for that, then nothing.
Thanks for the reply
I think SPB time can be used as a 'screensaver' for your non-WM5 phone.
Hmmmmmm
I'll try.
Thanks
No way, it works as a screensaver but you cannot turn off the screen and see the hour.
Any ideas?
Thanks
have an 02 xda “wizard” and the light of my camera is always on even when the phone is off but the battery is in. It is dull but on and running down the battery. Does anyone how I could get it off, also are their any other os’s that you can install that are better, like linux..
Thanks for any help
Sounds like you have a fault (hopefully a software). You can try getting into the camera application and swith it on and off, see if that works.
No Linux for Wizard yet, you can try WM6 (non official) if you want.
tried the camera thing, no joy, its even on when the phones of given me no more than an 8 hour battery
hardreset?
Whats that, just holding in the tiny reset button on the side
read the xda-wiki (on top of this screen)
Hi all, i've just bought a new htc hd2 from vodafone and i was amazed by every aspect of the terminal but the battery time. I had initialy the RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_EastEurope_1.66.479.2_Radio_CRC_Signed_15.32.50.07U_2.07.51.22_2_Ship ROM and i thought that i should change it to a more optimized and newer version but that didn't happen with the new ROM : Duttys_Leo_Sense_2.5_5.21905.5.0.93_2.13_Radio_2.11.50.20_HG_V3.8 - still horrible battery time
I even tried some other optimization and tweaking tools : Advanced_Configuration_Tool_v3.3.cab & BsB Tweaks 1.6.cab with no visible results.
After a full charge leaving the phone in standby with only phone link + data link over HSDPA (no music listening, no web browsing and the weather, stocks at the max sync time available) i can get a max of 8h standby time which is plain horrible.
I have tried different combinations of things nothing worked.
I have just deleted all links from windows/startup after a new full charge and turned off all radio operations. After 15-30 minutes of standby the terminal is already at 93%.
So i think i have a problem. Is it a bad battery ? If not what could be eating up so fast the battery even in "flight mode" with all radio turned off ?
Did you guys ever encouter such a thing ?
What should i do ?
another weird thing : i did install a hspl in order to put in the new rom but i did it directly from a working environment cause i cannot seem to be able to either hard reset (vol up + vol dn + power) or enter bios (vol dn+power).
i saw another guy on another thread with the same issue.
i will not tempt fate and reflash it although i did it 4 times already with different roms.
is that even possible ?
how can i fix it ?
PS : although i am new to htc hd2 ... i still have and rommed like a 1000 times an old mio a701 so i consider myself knowledgeable.
update : after 90 minutes of plain standby with all radio off i am at 85% charge - so i am officially worried and need your advice on this !!!
Just a suggestion concerning the hardreset/bootloader: Did you really hold the Vol.Buttons until the tri-coloured screen appeared or did you release them before?
i had the buttons pressed all the time no tri color hspl screen , just the plain htc white screen normal boot. even tried it after a shutdown and reinsertion of the battery to be sure. same result:
normal boot : no hard reset or enter bios/hspl/tri color screen (which i can only see if i install a new rom using usb within the working OS, force reboot and enter hspl from the custom rom install program)
Did you use HSPL2 (recommended) and chose HSPL 2.08 or the normal/old one? Did you already try to install HSPL again?
i have installed the original hspl only once. no hspl2.
cristian.sava said:
i have installed the original hspl only once. no hspl2.
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Then try HSPL2 instead. Its more secure, you can choose the version and easily return to stock SPL:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433
DONT USE IT IF YOU HAVE A USA TMOB HD2 (But as i saw in your 1st post you dont have a 102MB Leo, right?)!!!
yes you are correct it is not a 1024 mb version.
i've just installed hspl 2.08 but before that i checked again the battery status : after 3 standby hours with all radio off the battery is at 70%.
just tried entering hspl : same result : it will not work by using hardware keys. it only works if it is initiated by usb via pc with a installer that tells the device to enter hspl. i am attaching a capture to confirm.
cristian.sava said:
just tried entering hspl : same result : it will not work by using hardware keys. it only works if it is initiated by usb via pc with a installer that tells the device to enter hspl. i am attaching a capture to confirm.
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Hmm only thing i can imagine is a defective hardware. Do your Volume buttons (especially Vol.Down) work properly when using the device...?
the volume hardware keys are working just fine for volume operations.
can this be some kind of vodafone thing ? Although i bought it from them
it isn't locked or with a vodafone logo on it.
cristian.sava said:
the volume hardware keys are working just fine for volume operations.
can this be some kind of vodafone thing ? Although i bought it from them
it isn't locked or with a vodafone logo on it.
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No it has definately nothing to do with VF. To more suggestions. Try the following:
Take out the battery for at least one or two minutes, take out the storage card, insert battery and try HR again.
In the past i made two mistakes because of which a HR didnt work:
1. i HELD the powerbutton instead of tapping it (but u can also try holding it, maybe its different on your device... saw p.ex. starbase 64 doing this on youtube)
2. i didnt press the two volume keys hard enough and released them too early ( i know i already mentioned that but just to be sure )
tried it both with tapping and holding down power button (while holding down volume down button) without the 8gb storage card in it ... no effect whatsoever...the first thing it does is vibrates and starts up normally with the white htc boot screen.
and of course the same is with the hardware reset .... i am wishing that i never bought this phone ... let's say that the hardware reset of hspl issue isn't that pressing ... but the battery issue is actually making me think of throwing it down the toilet ... but i'll refrain for after i get and test a new original battery.
Witht the 2.11.50.20 radio my hd2 with standard battery is using less than 1% of the battery per hour in standby mode. In full usage, with the wifi on and the cpu being hammaered it's 3% per hour at the most. I have fully discharged my battery several times when it was new. so you may want to let the battery run a dead a few times in a row or mebbe replace the battery.
A hard reset took me two atempts the first time. Holding both volume buttons down just right is a little tricky. So i seriously doubt that the phone is defective or vodafone have modified it (vodafone actually have a policy of not making any modifications to the devices themselves) but i think it is a small case of user error
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In full usage, with the wifi on and the cpu being hammaered it's 3% per hour at the most.
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LOL sure !!! What do you have? A nuclear-battery? A car battery? 33Hours of full usage? No way!!! People in this forum are talking about max 6-7 hours WiFi surfing or 4-5 hours of movies (both far away from using 100% backlight --> 40% or similar) and you tell us you can use your phone for 33 hours? Do me a favour, dont make users who already feel uncomfortable with their phone even more uncomfortable. That confuses users and is just not true.
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LOL sure !!! What do you have? A nuclear-battery? A car battery? 33Hours of full usage? No way!!! People in this forum are talking about max 6-7 hours WiFi surfing or 4-5 hours of movies (both far away from using 100% backlight --> 40% or similar) and you tell us you can use your phone for 33 hours? Do me a favour, dont make users who already feel uncomfortable with their phone even more uncomfortable. That confuses users and is just not true.
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Calm down!!! I was talking about a combined cycle and i turn things like the wifi off when i'm not using them and it's not like i have the time to spend 6 hours straight using the wifi. I always put the phone into standby when i'm not using it and never put it on charge untill the battery get's below 5% full. I also never use bluetooth. I have no need for it.
These are all tips that allow a very long cycle between charges. If users are uncomfortable with their devices then they have 2 choices. Get something else or do what i do and treat it with a massive amount of respect. They can also try updating they radio firmware from 2.06, 2.07 or 2.08 and use 2.11.50.20 because in standby it barely uses any power at all. I'm also using a 3.01 based rom which also seems to help lower battery consumption.
hi guys
well ok here is the story
I got htc touch elf
in past i have flashed many roms, upgraded radio,uspl & all & everything was working fine but today phone was in my pocket & when i take it out no display but network led flashing, so I soft reset it but it didn't turned on. I even tried charging but the orange LED light didn't come on(even after 10 mins of charging). than i removed my battery & after 10 minutes i placed it in & turned on my phone this time it starts. So i quickly hard reseted the device & it worked fine. But within few minutes when its customizing the device it turned off & screen goes black. I tried turning on & it turned on & quickly adjusted back light settings. & was editing time it hangs & again turned off. I tried again & again sometimes it turns off at smart mobility screen. & later it didn't even turn on & no charging light even when plugged into charger. I took out battery again & placed it in & it utrnd on but turns off in few minutes.
My touch is almost 2years old & orignal stock battery since i purchased touch
i guessing that it may be battery issue cause i was able to go in try colour boot loader screen but it fades & changed in to dim white screen.
It also happens in smart mobility screen & turns reddish or blue & than turns off.
any ideas guyz
watz this issue
I am guessing battery issue but in try color screen it fades to dim white screen & from past 20 minutes its still in that dim white light(picture attached)
so is battery corrupted or any hardware issue.
any help will be so helpful
thanks
waiting for your replies
PS:- & when i was able to log in windows i checked battery status it says 70%. after 10 minutes of without battery I reinserted battery & goes to tricolour boot loader screen This time it didn't fades.
But when i soft reset device it stays in red colored smart mobility screen see pic attached
no one wid any idea
here's what u can do...try to hard reset till u see the tri color screen and then flash it with a stock ROM with the W/O 6.1 it should turns into green color..then just configure it as usual.
Try with a fully charged battery, if battery is not the issue then put in a fully charged battery and then flash a stock ROM, don't risk a flash with this battery, it may die in between of a flash ( maybe battery cycle issues 2 year old batteries can give these ). Flash stock with a new battery which is charged to 100%.
If not just manage a flash to stock and go to HTC support, maybe issues with harware.
You sure no moisuture/water went it ? These phones are tricky if moisture goes in and creats issues with motherboar an the tocuh screen can cause re-boots etc etc.
thanks for your reply guyz
I visit service center & they told me that its motherboard issue.And they cant fix it..have to buy new motherboard but as it costs 70% of the price of mobile so better to buy a new one
After searching web for it I found that HTC has these motherboard issue. There hardware is not long lasting.
As promised, just replying to this now. have just seen your last post. It does indeed sound like a hardware issue - I was going to guess at the mainboard. Have you tried flashing on a different ipl/spl etc? I wonder if that may be de stabilising your device for some reason? Also, guess you could try another radio. I have 3.21.90 on both of mine. Can't remember what IPL/SPL combo I have going.
Sorry to not be of more use. By all means feel free to see what JTAG can do for you, but I seriously doubt you will be able to alleviate this situation, and at the same time, HTC/Service Centre would be a little less willing to help.
They also tried to charge me £90 GBP to fix an ELF.... that is more then I can buy them for!
Stu
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As promised, just replying to this now. have just seen your last post. It does indeed sound like a hardware issue - I was going to guess at the mainboard. Have you tried flashing on a different ipl/spl etc? I wonder if that may be de stabilising your device for some reason? Also, guess you could try another radio. I have 3.21.90 on both of mine. Can't remember what IPL/SPL combo I have going.
Sorry to not be of more use. By all means feel free to see what JTAG can do for you, but I seriously doubt you will be able to alleviate this situation, and at the same time, HTC/Service Centre would be a little less willing to help.
They also tried to charge me £90 GBP to fix an ELF.... that is more then I can buy them for!
Stu
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yup. I tried flashing diffrent radio and roms. But it didn't worked. will flash ipl spl if it comes back to life again
thanks again for your replies
No need to say thanks. I wouldn't be on this site if it wasn't for others helping, not would I have bothered posting my attempts at jtag etc
Let us know how you get on, I am intrigued to see what could be going wrong on your phone.
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Hi all, i just got a Qtek 9090 with WM2003 (ITA). I upgraded to WM6.1, but now it has some strange problems: first of all, when it goes in standby, sometimes it doesn't wake up. If i have to reset it, most of times it doesn't boot (it shut down before WM loads) or i get R: None G: None and i have to reset again (otherwise the phone won't work).
The lock at the boot doesn't happen when the phone is connected at the USB port (i think that's because it charges, maybe it's a battery problem?)
Another thing is that i can't turn it off: if i hold pressed the power button, it deactivate the backlught but the device stays on, and if i make another long press, i get the backlight back again... I had this problem also with WM2003, maybe it's normal?
What do you think? Whan can i do?
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Have you make a HardReset?
The correct HardReset, not only reset and press Power button!!!
See in my HowTo Section...
and why not WM6.5.5 see here
yep, hard reset is a good start, but about your other problems:
the device does not really turn off, like other phones. pressing the power button makes it go to hibernate, the display turns off, depending on your settings, it locks the hardware buttons and it shuts off wi-fi, it hardly uses any energy but gsm/gprs stay on.
the device seems to be off, yet the phone is one and you can be called. that is the closest you get to switching it off. when you turn on airplane mode, the battery consumption is even less so there is not really a need to turn it off.
pressing and holding the power button always was for the backlight. many other devices open up a shutdown menu when you do that, that would allow you to turn it off, soft reset, or switch off the backlight, but for the BA, that is not the standard. however, if i read it right, d-two is working on remapping the power button, probably for that cause.
the R: none G: none issue is known and not a problem with your phone, whenever you run out of power or remove the battery for a second, the next boot will be w/o radio (R and most roms don't allow booting without it. that's why you get stuck there and have to perform a soft reset. back in the days of wm2003 i used to remove the battery when the device froze to reset it w/o the stylus, because it didn't matter then. with cooked roms, it is different, just like the booting splash screen or the way to perform a hard reset, many things change on a cooked rom.
the issue with waking up from standby, or the SOD (standby of death) is an issue, that most likely has something to do with a backup, restored after flashing another os, or maybe you didn't perform a hard reset, as stated by d-two. you should do that, now that the device is still new, you have nothing to lose
also, read through the tutorials posted by d-two and myself, whether you missed anything while flashing.
The "real" hard reset is the one i can get by pressing camera + record button and reset? If so, i already did it after flash (i use d-two 6.1 Manila ROM in WWE)
It shows me 3 options, i put on YES "Clean Registry Hive" and "Format Storage" then i press the mail button, the screen become white for a while and the next boot al seems to be ok.
It seems, because after some time i get again the "standby of death" and, if i press the reset button, the most of time it won't boot up again (it turns off before i can get to WM), if it works phone doesn't. All these boot problem can be avoided by connecting the phone to the usb cradle, so maybe it's also a battery problem, i think...
@ d-two: i'll try your new ROM, however before i've tried your 6.1 ROM
I've already read your guide because i've got Windows 7 and i couldn't flash without your tutorial
NEWS: installed d-two new ROM, after flash i made the hard reset selecting the second and the third options, then i get the blank screen and, when viewing the htc screen, it shut down itself like it did before
As always, with the usb connected, it has no problem :\
It can be battery power - battery is old, and it doesn't provide current [A], or voltage drops [V] and phone think, it's empty.
Maybe you can try with new battery, or buy 2 nokia bl-4c batteries and repair orginal battery (somewhere on forum there is a tutorial about that - but use bl4c, not bl5c like in tutorial - bl5c are too thick to fit)
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It can be battery power - battery is old, and it doesn't provide current [A], or voltage drops [V] and phone think, it's empty.
Maybe you can try with new battery, or buy 2 nokia bl-4c batteries and repair orginal battery (somewhere on forum there is a tutorial about that - but use bl4c, not bl5c like in tutorial - bl5c are too thick to fit)
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That's what i was thinking (and that's i hope it isn't)... Now with another recharge cycle it seems to be good also with cooked ROMs, i hope it's solved
Maybe you just have to charge/discharge it for 4-5 times, and it will restore it's capacity. Mine BA was turning off when battery indicator was showing ~60-70%, and now I'm waiting for new battery (i destroyed original )
"charge/discharge it for 4-5 times" does not have an effect on Li-ion kind of batteries. This is probably a software problem. When you turn your phone on (after removing a battery) it always shows "None" for R and G, so just press Reset button and it will be ok. I use Reset to power it on Then you can flash 6.5.5 which doesn't have problems, and do a hard reset. There should be no problem at all..
I also got the problem with the stock ROM :\
The R: None G: None error is the less important problem
Got any luck fixing it? I've had similar problems before, sometimes it turned itself off when the battery was at 60% in WM2003. Did you update to d-two's 6.5.5?
Yes, now i'm running d-two's 6.5.5 ROM.
No, i still had the problem Yesterday i called to the assistance service and they said me to remove the battery and after a while recharge it.
I put off the battery yesterday at 16 and i put it again in the phone this morning at 8, i charged it but i still have the problem
This evening i called again and they said me that i have to send it back, i'll flash the original ROM and send it on monday.
That's a shame, i really like this device, even if it's not mine, my sister uses it and she's not a pro user, what a waste
Didn't understand, what "assistance service"? This is very old phone, I just can't believe it has some kind of warranty
I have another battery, and using it the device turns it off sometimes while it's in the stand-by mode! Don't know why, the voltage on it is fine, I have measured it while working...
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Didn't understand, what "assistance service"? This is very old phone, I just can't believe it has some kind of warranty
I have another battery, and using it the device turns it off sometimes while it's in the stand-by mode! Don't know why, the voltage on it is fine, I have measured it while working...
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I bought it on an eBay market and it offered 60 days warranty. It's not official HTC/Qtek warranty, but it doesn't make difference, as long as the device will work
If for you it happens only when it's in standby, maybe you just have the standby of death, the problem Chef Tony was talking about at post 3?
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I bought it on an eBay market and it offered 60 days warranty. It's not official HTC/Qtek warranty, but it doesn't make difference, as long as the device will work
If for you it happens only when it's in standby, maybe you just have the standby of death, the problem Chef Tony was talking about at post 3?
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My Roms have no SOD
This is when vbase32 have all 01000000 base adress !!!
Search about SOD!!
No, this happens only with my old battery. I'll try it out now with this new ROM!
I was trying to understand his problem
Just to know, what kitchen do you use?
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I was trying to understand his problem
Just to know, what kitchen do you use?
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First i have create my own kitchen but then i have found the OSBuilder and this is the best kitchen ever
With this kitchen you can look the Vbase32 for SOD!!!
Well, i trust you that your ROMs doesn't have SOD problem, in fact this happened to me also with the shipped WM2003 ROM, it's a real hardware issue
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Well, i trust you that your ROMs doesn't have SOD problem, in fact this happened to me also with the shipped WM2003 ROM, it's a real hardware issue
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I think so, sorry
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I think so, sorry
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No problem, i'll send it to the assistance on monday, i hope it won't take too much time :\
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No problem, i'll send it to the assistance on monday, i hope it won't take too much time :\
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good luck But very cool that you have warranty