3 (UK) have just announced they are to start selling the HTC Hero, which will be bundled with 2 free years of Spotify premium.
More info here: http://www.three.co.uk/Internet_Services/Spotify
This is good news for me as I'm a 3 customer on an unlocked Hero. Hopefully we'll get the 3 skype application on android too!
Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere or is old news :S
Yeah I was about to post this too! Hopefully we should get the Skype app for our Heros as well! But let's hope 3 does allow us to use Skype as they would on their own Hero handset. You never know.
@cambria83 and @ alphabanker
Just in case if you are not aware, I and possibly some more users are already using Skype on 3 network as we would on 3's "skype compatible" phones.
There is a thread within Dream Application or search for iskoot for skype
Post your Qs if you need help.
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@cambria83 and @ alphabanker
Just in case if you are not aware, I and possibly some more users are already using Skype on 3 network as we would on 3's "skype compatible" phones.
There is a thread within Dream Application or search for iskoot for skype
Post your Qs if you need help.
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As a matter of interest, why use iSkoot instead of Skype Lite? Neither are "true" VOIP products, and I presume that neither is able to take advantage of 3's free "Skype to Skype"?
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Dave
Damn, beat me to report this news!
Its certainly good news and according to http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2009/10/20/238204/unlimited-spotify-music-on-3s-htc-hero-handset.htm it says that the package includes "free skype-to-skype calls" -- I guess a working "iSkoot" (or something similar) is coming out for android!
@foxmeister, you are right that neither is a true VOIP software, but iSkoot calls a special voice number to give you free skype-to-skype calls (but at the moment, iSkoot isn't calling that special number!)
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As a matter of interest, why use iSkoot instead of Skype Lite? Neither are "true" VOIP products, and I presume that neither is able to take advantage of 3's free "Skype to Skype"?
Regards,
Dave
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I use Sipdroid for Sip calls and "iskoot for skype" for skype calls. iSkoot for Skype works like normal skype for mobile and can make or receive calls from online skype contacts using data.
Yes, I must say that iSkoot for Skype as is, will use your minutes or credits so for most people it is not a viable solution but for those who are 3 PAYG or contract users can use it for free but the solution is a workround as mentioned in the "iskoot for skype" thread in Dream application section.
@tweedie, It works just like users have it on Nokias! But to push that .xml file the handset has to be rooted.
Edit: I just had a brief conversation with a 3 CS and was informed that Skype will be available, I have no idea if he was just assuming or advising me from the specs he might be quoting.
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I use Sipdroid for Sip calls and "iskoot for skype" for skype calls.
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Are you using Sipdroid with pbxes.com? I had Sipdroid up and running "direct" on my G1 with my Vonage softphone account, but with the Hero it seems to register ok (indicator "led" goes green) and after about 10 seconds yellow disconnects and registers again. It does this continually making it unusable at present.
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Dave
@tweedie, It works just like users have it on Nokias! But to push that .xml file the handset has to be rooted.
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There is another way if you don't have a rooted device (details at #9 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=546178)
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Are you using Sipdroid with pbxes.com? I had Sipdroid up and running "direct" on my G1 with my Vonage softphone account, but with the Hero it seems to register ok (indicator "led" goes green) and after about 10 seconds yellow disconnects and registers again. It does this continually making it unusable at present.
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Hi,
Yes with pbxes.org I tried with voxalot where I has 4 or 5 sip providers registered but voxalot wont work on sipdroid. Only one way audio.
It seems to work fine with pbxes. Mine is a free account I dont mind becoming a paid user but than I will expect them to deliver.
Skype is something new in latest sipdroid application but as far as I know no one has configured yet! There are some questions at the parent website sipdroid.org and click on users discussions.
Its amazing that no one from the core team led by Pascal has replied or offered any help.
On a sideline, Fring may be launching their client soon and could be followed by Nimbuzz and perhaps Octrotalk.
Regards.
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On a sideline, Fring may be launching their client soon and could be followed by Nimbuzz and perhaps Octrotalk.
Regards.
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Nimbuzz is out on android now, but no idea if its has SIP stuff.
At present Nimbuzz offers chat only.
Nobody mentions anything about Spotify?
I think this package is nice in idea, but rather expensive at £35 per month for 24 months, plus £99.99 for the phone.
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Nobody mentions anything about Spotify?
I think this package is nice in idea, but rather expensive at £35 per month for 24 months, plus £99.99 for the phone.
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Yeah the price would put me off too! I'd be tempted by the monthly price if I didn't have to pay for the phone as well. I guess the price sort of covers the free spotify anyway!
I am due an upgrade on 3 at the moment, but I already bought a Hero and don't really know what to do.
I hope its possible that if you already on a 3 network, got a htc hero with premuim spotify account, then free download of music without it using your internet allowance would be do-able.
Guys, Im really struggling here....
I bought an unlocked HTC Hero a few weeks before 3 announced their package...
I'm not getting my head around the iSkoot workaround. I understand why I need to do it, to allow my handset to dial over the 3 network to the "magic" 3 mobile to allow a virtual sykpe to skype conversation, but I can't understand how to achieve it. I'd rather not root just now and there was a glimmer of hope in this thread mentioning that it was not necessary.
If anyone can help, it would be great and would make our wedding (on 1/10/10 does anyone else see the binary joke?!) next year easier to plan as we live in different countries right now.
Any help/suggestions would be gratefully received - feel free to PM.
Thanks
No need for iskoot stuff. Look on the market for 'skype for 3'. It's a proper Skype software for the 3 network
Don't get the joke. Isn't that binary for 1/2/2 which that date has gone?
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Yeah the price would put me off too! I'd be tempted by the monthly price if I didn't have to pay for the phone as well. I guess the price sort of covers the free spotify anyway!
I am due an upgrade on 3 at the moment, but I already bought a Hero and don't really know what to do.
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It's not really 'free' - both Orange and T-Mobile will do the Hero free on a £25 contract, and Spotify is £10 a month.
By sticking with T-Mo, I've saved the £100 upfront price of the phone, and I can cancel my Spotify at any time if I don't like it and just pay my basic £25 talk/text/internet fee. Oh, and I've been with 3 twice now since they started and their service is abysmal
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Guys, Im really struggling here....
I bought an unlocked HTC Hero a few weeks before 3 announced their package...
I'm not getting my head around the iSkoot workaround. I understand why I need to do it, to allow my handset to dial over the 3 network to the "magic" 3 mobile to allow a virtual sykpe to skype conversation, but I can't understand how to achieve it. I'd rather not root just now and there was a glimmer of hope in this thread mentioning that it was not necessary.
If anyone can help, it would be great and would make our wedding (on 1/10/10 does anyone else see the binary joke?!) next year easier to plan as we live in different countries right now.
Any help/suggestions would be gratefully received - feel free to PM.
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I replied to your PM,
anyway there is a solution here Talkonaut 1.0 for Google's Android platform
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I have been looking for answering machine for my HTC, Imate unfortunately I never come across this. I any one in the forum or developer of software for mobile can develop this or is it not possible. We have many software in market and many developer but I don't see why is not been develop.
Looking forward your comments and wishing every one in this forum
Happy New Year and All The best
It's called voice mail and it comes with pretty much every phone plan on earth. That's why there's no development for such a product - there is no need for it.
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It's called voice mail and it comes with pretty much every phone plan on earth. That's why there's no development for such a product - there is no need for it.
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answering machine isnt like voicemail, with answering machine you could listen to the caller leaving a message, just as you would on a home answering machine, then pick up if you wanted, I had that option in my old sprint flip phone sanyo 4500.
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It's called voice mail and it comes with pretty much every phone plan on earth. That's why there's no development for such a product - there is no need for it.
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Yeah and with every phone plan on earth, it is very restricted unless you are willing to pay a fortune to the provider.
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Yeah and with every phone plan on earth, it is very restricted unless you are willing to pay a fortune to the provider.
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Restricted how? I have AT&T and VM is included for free. I can check it from anywhere very easily. It does exactly what I want it to do.
with htc there seem to be a pretty steap deviding between pda and phone when it comes to speakers
do a search for requests for recording conversations
do a search for answering machine
do a search for getting the "phone" speaker to work with skype and other VOIP
it seem to be a hardware design issue
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Restricted how? I have AT&T and VM is included for free. I can check it from anywhere very easily. It does exactly what I want it to do.
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Canada for instance, don't know about other countries, you either pay $7-10 for three VMs or pay 15 or more for a few more, so no it is not always included in the plan.
here voice mail is included in all subscriptions i believe
never heard of anybody having to pay extre for it
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here voice mail is included in all subscriptions i believe
never heard of anybody having to pay extre for it
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Unlike other countries where little competion exists but carriers are intent on providing the maximum services, Canadian providers are exceptionally greedy. They've got the cash cow all to themselves and milking every last drop out of it. Hopefully this will change soon...
Rudegar said:
here voice mail is included in all subscriptions i believe
never heard of anybody having to pay extre for it
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Unfortunately not all countries are built the same (mind you prices have gone down - but still not included), all providers in Canada are about the same, see below:
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Skyfire looks great shame it's not available for anyone but US users.
Thanks Anyway
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Skyfire looks great shame it's not available for anyone but US users.
Thanks Anyway
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At last!
Ive been waiting for skyfire to "jump the pond" for what seems like forever!
I have probably checked Google everyday since the origional Beta was first mentioned in the hope that it would be listed with a UK release date.
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Ive been waiting for skyfire to "jump the pond" for what seems like forever!
I have probably checked Google everyday since the origional Beta was first mentioned in the hope that it would be listed with a UK release date.
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It took me almost a year to get my original invite.
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Ive been waiting for skyfire to "jump the pond" for what seems like forever!
I have probably checked Google everyday since the origional Beta was first mentioned in the hope that it would be listed with a UK release date.
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Tell us if you make the cut!
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Still nothing, but i did recieve a newsletter! Whooowhoo!
Is there a VOIP application with Video support available for Windows Mobile?
The new Skype still doesn't support this.
Yes there is, tivi uses standard SIP and VOIP protocols, you can for example call someone on other sip accounts with tivi. Also take a look at the following post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458257
Looks like there's nothing stable out for it yet if I read the post under the link.
Wierd, I'd think that this is the future of communicating.
All these Phones with camera's and wifi and no video chat app?
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Looks like there's nothing stable out for it yet if I read the post under the link.
Wierd, I'd think that this is the future of communicating.
All these Phones with camera's and wifi and no video chat app?
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Don´t forget that most providers don´t want this and most sold cellphones ar bought with a contract of one of these providers. Furthermore, some providers in europe don´t allow VoIP via 3d/HSDPA. So there is simply nearly no market except for some nerds like us
As your providers hotline would answer: "Simply use the build in video-call"
Flanders said:
Don´t forget that most providers don´t want this and most sold cellphones ar bought with a contract of one of these providers. Furthermore, some providers in europe don´t allow VoIP via 3d/HSDPA. So there is simply nearly no market except for some nerds like us
As your providers hotline would answer: "Simply use the build in video-call"
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Well, regardless of what providers may or may not want, this question is still about the software.
Nobody can forbid me to use Wifi (hotspots) to use this functionality.
And I'm definitly looking towards the future. I believe video communication is going to be a standard.
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..I believe video communication is going to be a standard.
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So were we told around year 2000 as UMTS/3G came on the table. Today it works but nearly no one uses it. I don´t think it will change with VoIP in the mobile sector. People don´t want it.
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OK we do like it. But even we don´t need it really. It´s just for fun. The other thing is Vid-oIP from Netbooks to hold connection to People (loved ones) who are maybe overseas.
For example, Apple irgnored these function completely when construction iPhone 2 (3g). So their analysts came to the result that the marked is not interested.
Deadbeef, yes I am also looking for this kind of application, sitting in a cafe and video-chat with other pc-skype people...
I find it insanely ridiculous that this Skype update didn't bring Video calling to the Xoom ( hell, not even to the Thunderbolt). Is there anybody working on a customized apk to have video calling work on the Xoom( unrooted, just install the apk no mods or anything). Link to a thread? Thanks
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glad you asked as I want to know the answer too
I am sure I saw a tweet about a modified version which worked on Thunderbolt..
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/04/11/download-skype-with-video-chat-for-the-htc-thunderbolt/
that's what I saw I think - any idea if that works?
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glad you asked as I want to know the answer too
I am sure I saw a tweet about a modified version which worked on Thunderbolt..
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/04/11/download-skype-with-video-chat-for-the-htc-thunderbolt/
that's what I saw I think - any idea if that works?
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Not sure, I did see an apk for other devices (Sensation, Samsung Galaxy S 2, etc) but none for Xoom. Anyone have a clue if this has worked for Xoom?
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I find it ridicuolous that they couldn't release support more phones and devices. Can someone post the apk?
Here you could find modified apk that works with other devices. I tried to install it on the XOOM, but I couldn't pass registration page. It's just return you to main screen without any feedback.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1148708
DEVs please modify it that we could use it on our XOOM tables.
Anyone here working on it?
Sent from my Xoom
Guys I got a Skype update for my Transformer via Android Market and it sort of looks like a tablet app. High resolution graphics and stuff, you know. Also, it mentioned video calling on start up, I think - but I couldn't figure out how to use it. This is definately coming, give it a few more days
Skype almost worked
I downloaded and installed Skype awhile ago and was able to create an account but then it said it was unable to connect me to the network
Dunno why it wouldn't connect to my wi-fi network ... but it was exciting for a few minutes when it looked like it was going to work. After creating an account it went into connecting mode and until the error message popped up about not being able to connect it looked like it was going to work.
So close ... it almost made it. Perhaps it would work for someone on Verizon.
So far the only device added to the list of compatible devices is the Nexus S 4g. Not a single tablet.
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Skype with video chat for the thunderbolt was leaked like 3 months ago. I'm surprised it wasnt released during the official launch especially since the Thunderbolt was the first device skype with video was supposed to launch on.
Yeah I find this all very weird. Who knows, they did stop making Skype a Verizon exclusive... maybe that's why
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Well Verizon just unloaded that turkey to Microsoft. It's their problem now. Lol.
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I think what's obvious is that the skype video is basically a hack and not like google talk video since its so phone specific
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Be aware that Skype is based upon a distributed network. This means that when you are connected to Skype your computer is part of their network and can/will be used to connect other users together without asking your permission.
Quite possibly phones and tablets are less than ideal mechanisms to be integral parts of their sharing network.
I have uninstalled Skype from my computers to prevent this indiscriminate use.
edengberg said:
Be aware that Skype is based upon a distributed network. This means that when you are connected to Skype your computer is part of their network and can/will be used to connect other users together without asking your permission.
Quite possibly phones and tablets are less than ideal mechanisms to be integral parts of their sharing network.
I have uninstalled Skype from my computers to prevent this indiscriminate use.
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Not quite accurate. Skype has a distributed network of supernodes, true. It is also true that supernodes are regular skype clients (much as bit torrent and other p2p networks are). It is not true that all clients are supernodes. Only clients on public addresses not behind a proxy are eligible as supernodes. Android clients are not eligible (skype does not have root privileges and can not open a port on 80 and 443), nor are clients behind a NAT.
Feel free to not use the service, but do not do so based on a misunderstanding out how skype works.
EDIT: explained in greater detail why android in specific can not act as a supernode. (Discounting the fact that supernodes are chosen based on cpu power and bandwidth, making its selection unlikely even if it were possible.)
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Not quite accurate. Skype has a distributed network of supernodes, true. It is also true that supernodes are regular skype clients (much as bit torrent and other p2p networks are). It is not true that all clients are supernodes. Only clients on public addresses not behind a proxy are eligible as supernodes. Android clients are not eligible (skype does not have root privileges and can not open a port on 80 and 443), nor are clients behind a NAT.
Feel free to not use the service, but do not do so based on a misunderstanding out how skype works.
EDIT: explained in greater detail why android in specific can not act as a supernode. (Discounting the fact that supernodes are chosen based on cpu power and bandwidth, making its selection unlikely even if it were possible.)
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Thanks for correcting my post. I will still refrain from using Skype.
Hello,skype don't work with honeycomb.
stobal02 said:
Hello,skype don't work with honeycomb.
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That's a load of crap. I run Skype all the time on my Xoom.
LiViD said:
That's a load of crap. I run Skype all the time on my Xoom.
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With video, the point of using Skype on a tablet...
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So wait, I got a XOOM, and SKYPE works in general, can chat and voice talk, but NOT Video talk.... am I missing something?
Thanks
Please stay on topic - asking just about the phone capability please.
I have spent an hour searching the web and no thread indicates whether it is data only or also voice/phone capable.
I know that we can pull a phone application, but the question is if the modem is phone capable or not.
If you answer please link to your source, or share how you know.
I think for many if this is also a phone (and not just a VOIP sub-par option) it could go head to head with a Note2, with a reduced budget.
Thanks.
Even i am looking for this questions answer but not getting proper answer..Its not confirmed yet abt voice calls/sms
Add one more to the list of people who would like to know the answer to that question. I'd like to upgrade my Galaxy S, which is getting a bit long in the tooth, and I wouldn't mind to loose the back camera (I seldom use it anyway, plus I actually have a digital Point-and-shoot). Also, since I don't make that many calls, a small, cheap tablet makes total sense for me...
My guess is that, if the Nexus 7 with 3G is anything like the original Galaxy Tab (probably one of the original Android Tablets) on that department, then voice is a given. But you never know if the modem is crippled in any way...
Also, since we're on this topic, any news if the launch date is global, or only for the US? And if the 3G will be Europe-friendly, for that matter?
Miguel
I have used Line 2 on mine, so I don't see why it wouldn't work.
Interested in knowing too.
Interesting topic..i've plan to upgrade my n7 to n10 or n7 3g..
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This is exactly what I would like to know. Is there hardware that needs to the N7 to make it 3g capable or will Google send and an update to current N7 owners?
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Is there hardware that needs to the N7 to make it 3g capable or will Google send and an update to current N7 owners?
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As far as I know, currently shipping N7s completely lack any kind of 3G-capable hardware. It's simply not installed, period. And, since that hardware it's a tiny chip with even tinier contact points that needs to be soldered at manufacturing time (not to mention the rest of the supporting hardware, including the antenna, and already supposing the PCB actually has the required traces in place, which may or may not be the case), then ANY currently N7s being sold will never be 3G capable by themselves. Unless someone develops some kind of dongle to be added, though I don't even know if that's possible...
So, unless I'm terribly wrong, to get an N7 with 3G, you'll need a new one.
Now, one question that popped into my mind in the meanwhile. There was at least one review that took the N7 apart that found out the PCB for the N7 actually has a mounting area for a back camera, and probably all the PCB traces are in place, too. At the time, the reviewer said it could have been a leftover from the design phase, or something that had to be cut back due to the target cost. With these new SKUs popping up, do you think Google will eventually throw the back camera in at some point?
Miguel
i,ve asked google customer support several days ago on this same question but not yet get an answer. one thing i,m certain is that this all depends on the modem.that is, the modem may be data connection capable only, or may also be capable for making voice calls.
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decemberpei said:
i,ve asked google customer support several days ago on this same question but not yet get an answer.
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How did you manage to do that? I've been all over Google's support pages and have found nothing that even remotely looked like an e-mail address where we could ask for questions. Or a support form, for that matter...
any news regarding that? i really want to know!
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any news regarding that? i really want to know!
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My guess is, unless someone can get their hands on one of them before November 13th, we'll have to wait until at least then to get this question answered.
Also, a bit OT, but does anyone know launch dates for all countries? It would suck so much to have to cross the border just to get my hands on one... Right now, you can only get the 32GB Nexus 7 in Portugal (we completely skipped the 8GB and 16GB versions, they were never even available, though the good news is that we got the 32GB version along with the US), though only through retail (no Play Store for anything other than apps).
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How did you manage to do that? I've been all over Google's support pages and have found nothing that even remotely looked like an e-mail address where we could ask for questions. Or a support form, for that matter...
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I can't remember very clearly . i just playing around at android.com looking for some customer support page,where i could ask questions via email since i am not at us. i finally made it at some page like 'my order'. i filled in some personal info,and managed to sent out my question to google. the 'order id' field was not required, but after that i was not able to find the page anymore. the support pages really sucks. just toooooo much links and i keep jumping everywhere and finally get lost,
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If its no voice calls then i will not buy i guess,better i will buy galaxy tab 2 but NoT sure but on gsmarena.com they mentioned that ONLY DATA,NO VOICE CALLS on uppar side of specs.
I have been trying to find the answer to this question as well without any luck. Would be nice to get this confirmed or denied in a official way but i guess we wont know untill nov 13th
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How did you manage to do that? I've been all over Google's support pages and have found nothing that even remotely looked like an e-mail address where we could ask for questions. Or a support form, for that matter...
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here the response from google customer support: The Nexus 7 3G version currently does not have a built-in phone app, so it will not be capable of making any phone calls. It has 3G data connectivity and Wifi as of now and currently may be used with any carrier that supports GSM/UMTS/HSPA+.
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decemberpei said:
here the response from google customer support: The Nexus 7 3G version currently does not have a built-in phone app, so it will not be capable of making any phone calls. It has 3G data connectivity and Wifi as of now and currently may be used with any carrier that supports GSM/UMTS/HSPA+.
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Still can't find anything besides a "send feedback" link over at Android.com. I think you were extremely lucky
Anyway, that reply might be a good thing after all: we all know the phone app is disabled for the N7, it has been said before. However, as someone also already mentioned, it's usually possible for people to enable that app, even if you need a custom ROM for it. So, assuming the whole "does not have a built-in phone app" thing only means "we didn't enable voice capabilities because, frankly, it would cannibalize our other offerings, but the underlying hardware is perfectly capable of doing that" (not that you would actually hear anyone from Google saying that, or have them write that down... lol), we'll be golden.
Is any way you can reply to that e-mail and specifically ask which is the baseband/chipset they will be using for the data capabilities? If we had that tidbit of information, we should be able to know if voice could be unlocked or not...
What a way to start my day, with a hopeful news... Nice!
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Still can't find anything besides a "send feedback" link over at Android.com. I think you were extremely lucky
Anyway, that reply might be a good thing after all: we all know the phone app is disabled for the N7, it has been said before. However, as someone also already mentioned, it's usually possible for people to enable that app, even if you need a custom ROM for it. So, assuming the whole "does not have a built-in phone app" thing only means "we didn't enable voice capabilities because, frankly, it would cannibalize our other offerings, but the underlying hardware is perfectly capable of doing that" (not that you would actually hear anyone from Google saying that, or have them write that down... lol), we'll be golden.
Is any way you can reply to that e-mail and specifically ask which is the baseband/chipset they will be using for the data capabilities? If we had that tidbit of information, we should be able to know if voice could be unlocked or not...
What a way to start my day, with a hopeful news... Nice!
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i reply the customer support's email with another question but they didn't give me the direct answer!
my qusetion was:
"thanks for your kindly help. would you tell we if the hardware modem itself supports voice calls? as you know,in android,a 3rd party phone app could take the work of the built-in phone app. so lack of built-in phone app really doesn't matter much. eager for your reply and thanks again!"
their response:
" The N7 3G version can be used for Voice over IP calls, such as Skype, or Google Voice, etc but you will not be able to use the tablet as a phone. Hope that helps."
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decemberpei said:
their response:
" The N7 3G version can be used for Voice over IP calls, such as Skype, or Google Voice, etc but you will not be able to use the tablet as a phone. Hope that helps."
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I think that kind of confirms where the blogsphere is currently on this topic.
No cell for us
__Miguel_ said:
How did you manage to do that? I've been all over Google's support pages and have found nothing that even remotely looked like an e-mail address where we could ask for questions. Or a support form, for that matter...
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Apparently you did not look that hard..
Google Contact Page
Device Support Number 1-855-836-3987
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Werwood said:
I think that kind of confirms where the blogsphere is currently on this topic.
No cell for us
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Technically No...
It doesn't answer whether or not the modem(radio) inside the device has been limited (hardware wise) to only a Data connection.
The N7 runs the tablet version of Android, which means the Phone Feature (dialer, etc) has been removed.
The phone dialer you see on some tablets, are custom to that manufacturer, not added by Google.
What we need to know is if the Hardware part of the N7 will allow for a Voice connection to be made. If so, then the Software part can be added back in. Which I'm sure if the hardware needed is there, then the many geniuses here on XDA will quickly make the Dialer appear
And I might be completely mistaken here, but SMS should be possible since its Technically Data, and only requires a Phone Number to route the messages. If SMS is possible, I would be happy with just that, as I do not use voice (if I needed to, I have a cell for that, which I pay an extreme amount for, but only make on average 2 calls a month) - But this would also require the SMS app be added back into the N7 firmware.
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I think it all come down to Waiting... Waiting for the device to be release, and someone taking it apart to see what its capable of.
Since Google employees people in their service department that are not completely "Tech" savvy, I don't think we can take any answer they give as fact.
I called them the other day, and asked about the Modem/Radio within the Nexus 7 3G.. and The CSR answer was "No you can not plug a Phone Cord or Ethernet cable into the device, and if you want to listen to the radio you must download a 3rd Party App or Try our Google Music service, but it's not a radio" - Couldn't help but laugh uncontrollably for 10min straight.