I find it insanely ridiculous that this Skype update didn't bring Video calling to the Xoom ( hell, not even to the Thunderbolt). Is there anybody working on a customized apk to have video calling work on the Xoom( unrooted, just install the apk no mods or anything). Link to a thread? Thanks
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glad you asked as I want to know the answer too
I am sure I saw a tweet about a modified version which worked on Thunderbolt..
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/04/11/download-skype-with-video-chat-for-the-htc-thunderbolt/
that's what I saw I think - any idea if that works?
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glad you asked as I want to know the answer too
I am sure I saw a tweet about a modified version which worked on Thunderbolt..
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/04/11/download-skype-with-video-chat-for-the-htc-thunderbolt/
that's what I saw I think - any idea if that works?
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Not sure, I did see an apk for other devices (Sensation, Samsung Galaxy S 2, etc) but none for Xoom. Anyone have a clue if this has worked for Xoom?
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I find it ridicuolous that they couldn't release support more phones and devices. Can someone post the apk?
Here you could find modified apk that works with other devices. I tried to install it on the XOOM, but I couldn't pass registration page. It's just return you to main screen without any feedback.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1148708
DEVs please modify it that we could use it on our XOOM tables.
Anyone here working on it?
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Guys I got a Skype update for my Transformer via Android Market and it sort of looks like a tablet app. High resolution graphics and stuff, you know. Also, it mentioned video calling on start up, I think - but I couldn't figure out how to use it. This is definately coming, give it a few more days
Skype almost worked
I downloaded and installed Skype awhile ago and was able to create an account but then it said it was unable to connect me to the network
Dunno why it wouldn't connect to my wi-fi network ... but it was exciting for a few minutes when it looked like it was going to work. After creating an account it went into connecting mode and until the error message popped up about not being able to connect it looked like it was going to work.
So close ... it almost made it. Perhaps it would work for someone on Verizon.
So far the only device added to the list of compatible devices is the Nexus S 4g. Not a single tablet.
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Skype with video chat for the thunderbolt was leaked like 3 months ago. I'm surprised it wasnt released during the official launch especially since the Thunderbolt was the first device skype with video was supposed to launch on.
Yeah I find this all very weird. Who knows, they did stop making Skype a Verizon exclusive... maybe that's why
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Well Verizon just unloaded that turkey to Microsoft. It's their problem now. Lol.
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I think what's obvious is that the skype video is basically a hack and not like google talk video since its so phone specific
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Be aware that Skype is based upon a distributed network. This means that when you are connected to Skype your computer is part of their network and can/will be used to connect other users together without asking your permission.
Quite possibly phones and tablets are less than ideal mechanisms to be integral parts of their sharing network.
I have uninstalled Skype from my computers to prevent this indiscriminate use.
edengberg said:
Be aware that Skype is based upon a distributed network. This means that when you are connected to Skype your computer is part of their network and can/will be used to connect other users together without asking your permission.
Quite possibly phones and tablets are less than ideal mechanisms to be integral parts of their sharing network.
I have uninstalled Skype from my computers to prevent this indiscriminate use.
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Not quite accurate. Skype has a distributed network of supernodes, true. It is also true that supernodes are regular skype clients (much as bit torrent and other p2p networks are). It is not true that all clients are supernodes. Only clients on public addresses not behind a proxy are eligible as supernodes. Android clients are not eligible (skype does not have root privileges and can not open a port on 80 and 443), nor are clients behind a NAT.
Feel free to not use the service, but do not do so based on a misunderstanding out how skype works.
EDIT: explained in greater detail why android in specific can not act as a supernode. (Discounting the fact that supernodes are chosen based on cpu power and bandwidth, making its selection unlikely even if it were possible.)
JanetPanic said:
Not quite accurate. Skype has a distributed network of supernodes, true. It is also true that supernodes are regular skype clients (much as bit torrent and other p2p networks are). It is not true that all clients are supernodes. Only clients on public addresses not behind a proxy are eligible as supernodes. Android clients are not eligible (skype does not have root privileges and can not open a port on 80 and 443), nor are clients behind a NAT.
Feel free to not use the service, but do not do so based on a misunderstanding out how skype works.
EDIT: explained in greater detail why android in specific can not act as a supernode. (Discounting the fact that supernodes are chosen based on cpu power and bandwidth, making its selection unlikely even if it were possible.)
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Thanks for correcting my post. I will still refrain from using Skype.
Hello,skype don't work with honeycomb.
stobal02 said:
Hello,skype don't work with honeycomb.
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That's a load of crap. I run Skype all the time on my Xoom.
LiViD said:
That's a load of crap. I run Skype all the time on my Xoom.
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With video, the point of using Skype on a tablet...
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So wait, I got a XOOM, and SKYPE works in general, can chat and voice talk, but NOT Video talk.... am I missing something?
Thanks
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Skype is long overdue for Android. There was supposed to be support on the Xoom tablet, but reports show yesterday that they withdrawed their business/services for the tablet and future laptop/devices .Its word going around that now they will continue to work on a better agreement to bring video chat to the platform. I looked online and alot of Androidians (lol) arent too happy with this. Everyone is wondering was there a Apple pay-off and what is taking so long. Will Skype video chat/3g calls every come to us?
Don't know why Google didn't write their own freaking application for it. I video call through gmail on my laptop fine, seems like the logical step to integrate their phones and tablets into that.
Seriously if Google isn't going to step up and write some BASIC polished apps for their own platform rather than having devices being released half-baked, apple is going to continue to dominate the tablet market.
dinan said:
Don't know why Google didn't write their own freaking application for it. I video call through gmail on my laptop fine, seems like the logical step to integrate their phones and tablets into that.
Seriously if Google isn't going to step up and write some BASIC polished apps for their own platform rather than having devices being released half-baked, apple is going to continue to dominate the tablet market.
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I think its ridiculous. Its taking way too long.
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Unless things like this change, I won't be using the Android platform in the future. One of my top priorities/needs is great app support. If you don't have that, all this new hardware is useless IMO.
meetagrawal said:
Unless things like this change, I won't be using the Android platform in the future. One of my top priorities/needs is great app support. If you don't have that, all this new hardware is useless IMO.
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i can agree with that. i was happy to get a front facing camera but i have yet to use it. so whats the point. i could have kept my g2 around.
Well Google released video chat on the Xoom via google chat so hopefully it wont be long until they integrate it into phones
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Well Google released video chat on the Xoom via google chat so hopefully it wont be long until they integrate it into phones
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hopefully it may come
It's not just Android, if you check the last update for the Linux client, don't be surprised how long ago that was (January 20, 2010; 13 months ago from Wikipedia).
I've already completely lost faith in Skype, I don't trust them anymore.
ehm??? no 3G calling?
what have i been doing the last few day's?
you can call with 3G.wel atleast i can.
Using skype over 3g service and video calls. And no you haven't been doing it
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I don't think that Skype has any intention of releasing a free Android app. They seem to only be interested in installing video-enabled Skype on devices sold by manufacturers/carriers that will pay them directly. e.g. Verizon or Nokia.
Of course, the strange part of all this is that Skype w/video is available for iPhone 4.
Oh well, if Google releases video chat before skype does, then my skype account, along with the rest of my family's, will be gone.
Sorry if this is a noob question but is it possible to extract the apk of Skype from a Verizon phone and install it on others?
Carne_Asada_Fries said:
Sorry if this is a noob question but is it possible to extract the apk of Skype from a Verizon phone and install it on others?
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i have been questioning this as well. why it didnt happen yet.
unless :
- there is no phone that is out right now and has skype video call in it
OR
- even if they managed to do so, it wont connect to skype network so it was useless " something to do with skype knowing your phone before it connect to the server, and if the phone is not registered in their database, it wont connect.
There's always Fring;
http://www.fring.com/android/
That said, as a Skype subscription holder it'd be nice to have video supported.
Think about the legal ramifications. Google talk is praticially installed on every device and can't be uninstall. Remember way back when Netscape sued Microsoft for having monopolistic capatilism with having IE installled by default? Eventually they got told By the surpreme court that they have to allow more competitive practice with third party vendors. as far as I can see Google is allowing third party vendors to coexist with their own apps...and thank good. I lovvvve my choices. I'm sure we'll see a filtered down version of honeycomb to smartphone. I bet Google chat will even come as a newly downloadable app from the market with such features. Google certainly have their hands fill. I'm pretty sure they got their hands fill for coding for tablets and smartphones at the same time.
Btw I hate using Skype...why doesn't the app have a turn off button?
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There's always Fring;
http://www.fring.com/android/
That said, as a Skype subscription holder it'd be nice to have video supported.
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How dare you....
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Think about the legal ramifications. Google talk is praticially installed on every device and can't be uninstall. Remember way back when Netscape sued Microsoft for having monopolistic capatilism with having IE installled by default? Eventually they got told By the surpreme court that they have to allow more competitive practice with third party vendors. as far as I can see Google is allowing third party vendors to coexist with their own apps...and thank good. I lovvvve my choices. I'm sure we'll see a filtered down version of honeycomb to smartphone. I bet Google chat will even come as a newly downloadable app from the market with such features. Google certainly have their hands fill. I'm pretty sure they got their hands fill for coding for tablets and smartphones at the same time.
Btw I hate using Skype...why doesn't the app have a turn off button?
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You can uninstall any app on the phone if your rooted. And there is a log off/turn off button in skype.
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Carne_Asada_Fries said:
Sorry if this is a noob question but is it possible to extract the apk of Skype from a Verizon phone and install it on others?
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Not a noob question. The xoom would have had it but skype pulled out. There is no android device that has it. The xoom and the thunderbolt were supposed to be the first to have it.
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Not a noob question. The xoom would have had it but skype pulled out. There is no android device that has it. The xoom and the thunderbolt were supposed to be the first to have it.
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heh that means my theory is right. damn i am good
There is a Skype app. It does make (voice only) calls over 3G (and 4G if you believe all the marketing hype). I use it quite regularly to talk with my family back in the US.
As for Google taking forever to put out all these apps, you have to understand that they are subject to the same dev process all other app developers are. They have to wait until the SDK is available. Yeah, they may get it a bit sooner than other devs, but I'd say only a week at most before. It doesn't benefit them to hold out just to get their stuff (apps) out first. And it takes time to produce [email protected]$$ apps. If you dev outside of an existing engine, even longer.
I praise Google for what they've done so far and I look forward to their contributions.
Free T-Mobile Msg: Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing access may be blocked unless you add a Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing plan available at my.t-mobile.com
followed by this within seconds of the first msg :
Free T-Mobile Msg: Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing access has been blocked. Please add a Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing plan available at my.t-mobile.com
I remember them talking about cracking down on people tethering without a tether plan
but didn't think it was possible
I didn't get that message
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Do you tether often? Or download a lot when you tether?
Maybe you're just one of those users that has exceeded what they consider "normal" and "average" usage.
How much data do you use a month?
Never download. but I'm sure it's being exceeded when I play starcraft II lol.
I did stream Netflix heavily and would get capped to edge after hitting 5gb+ but that was months ago. I never received messages or got regulated after I stopped up until today while I was browsing casually.
This crap should be illegal.
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I had heard that was going around, anyone know how they are doing it?
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I think they are randomly sending ppl messages. They sent my gf a message today saying about parental control for 4.99 so kids dont go over minutes or messages. We have 3 lines and all three have unlimited everything so message was pretty lame.
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Never download. but I'm sure it's being exceeded when I play starcraft II lol.
I did stream Netflix heavily and would get capped to edge after hitting 5gb+ but that was months ago. I never received messages or got regulated after I stopped up until today while I was browsing casually.
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That's probably how they busted you, not quite aware of any phone that can play Starcraft II, all they would need to know is the servers used for the game... might have just been excessive use I suppose.
played SCII while tethered from my phone to PC is what I meant. Not directly from my Nexus 1, lol.
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played SCII while tethered from my phone to PC is what I meant. Not directly from my Nexus 1, lol.
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That's exactly what I meant, the only way you could do it would be through tethering...
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Free T-Mobile Msg: Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing access may be blocked unless you add a Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing plan available at my.t-mobile.com
followed by this within seconds of the first msg :
Free T-Mobile Msg: Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing access has been blocked. Please add a Phone Tethering & Wi-Fi Sharing plan available at my.t-mobile.com
I remember them talking about cracking down on people tethering without a tether plan
but didn't think it was possible
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Sent them an official letter asking them how they have come to this conclusion.
Have they been monitoring your traffic? If yes, did they have police permission to do so, and if yes on what grounds. Declare that you consider taking legal action against them for privacy concerns.
Yeah there have been rumors that they'll start charging for those they believe are tethering without permission.
The only way they can discover this is if they are sniffing/recording your packets, and this is a major privacy concern, as even secure (https) communication can be read if they record the keys in a packet stream.
All your bank info, and email, and any other service you use, via tethering or just on the phone is potentially at risk if they are snooping around to see if you're tethering.
Not really...
Your device broadcasts it's ID pretty much everywhere it goes. All they have to do is look for tablets going through their servers...
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Your device broadcasts it's ID pretty much everywhere it goes. All they have to do is look for tablets going through their servers...
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You're going to have to define what you mean, because being in Networking/IT for 8 years, I know what you're saying but they still have to sniff your packets.
I think they're going based on data amount, from what people are saying. Which is why my family has not gotten a notice.
I definitely abused the tethering privileges. I'm probably one of the select few to get this notice.
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Sent them an official letter asking them how they have come to this conclusion.
Have they been monitoring your traffic? If yes, did they have police permission to do so, and if yes on what grounds. Declare that you consider taking legal action against them for privacy concerns.
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But aren't you also breaking the rules since you're tethering without a tethering plan?
My concern isn't about tethering my concern is that they are spying on data itself to tell that you are tethering. I work for a company that uses https for web mail. And that's a major privacy concern since we handle sensitive data.
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flibbertigibbet007 said:
You're going to have to define what you mean, because being in Networking/IT for 8 years, I know what you're saying but they still have to sniff your packets.
I think they're going based on data amount, from what people are saying. Which is why my family has not gotten a notice.
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Well, from my limited knowledge, I believe that a service broadcasts certain information about itself in order to communicate effectively with other devices...
Hulu block android.
Web pages render for mobile devices.
When I log on to my bank from a new device, I have authenticate it (and it's not cookie based).
Digital fingerprints contain a ton of information that you, the user, make available to any service you interact with...
My guess is that the carrier looks at large data users, and scrutinizes the use. I would also say that the carrier is well within their rights to confirm that services using their network are authorized to do so?
Correct me if i'm wrong - it won't be the first time... xD
What I don't agree with is the fact that, if I pay for 5G of data, what the hell does it matter how I use it? If I tether my nook to download music it's wrong, but if I download it on my phone and transfer via SD that's OK? Just wierd to me...
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Hulu block android.
Web pages render for mobile devices.
When I log on to my bank from a new device, I have authenticate it (and it's not cookie based).
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+Hulu, can tell based on browser data that is sent over http. and I believe flash also provides data about what system you're on. (also they can tell by your public ip address what you're probably using their service from, like a cell phone)
+Webpages, also they get browser responces in headers over http. And redirect you to a mobile page. (eg. m.website.com)
+Bank accounts, I know exactly what you mean about this, they normally can tell from IP address only. But other than that it's cookie, and Mac address(probably from a java call?)
In my opinion, I believe it's going beyond the Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 2000:
http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/judiciary/hju67343.000/hju67343_0.htm
But I don't know the full details of the act, I'm going on my understanding.
Of course I'm talking only about US Customers of ATandT.
Edit: So from what I've read, the privacy act would only not allow any information they can provide about how they know you're using tethering as evidence in a court case, so a lawsuit against them would ultimately win in the customers favor.
So..
Skype got updated and video call is now supported on some handsets (Desire S, Xperia, Nexus etc)
Nice new interface also..
Anyway some devs can get video working on our tablets ???
Tango works perfectly and its free, you can download it at Market.
Cheers!
meh on Tango. Installed the Thunderbolt version of Skype on my HTC Sensation and video worked fine. I wonder if it would work on the Iconia
Yep, screw tango, skype is allover the world, works on my epic with video but not on iconia (no video).
Skype uses NEON and Tegra 2 doesn't have it.
FearL0rd said:
Skype uses NEON and Tegra 2 doesn't have it.
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Does this mean Skype video will most likely never work for the Iconia a500?
I'm really going to be disappointed if this is the case... been waiting for video support for a while now.
I, like other, have tried the new skype 2.0.0.47 'hack' by theos0o (v5 i believe) but surely, skype crashes with the 'enable video' checked in the advanced menu.
Anyone?
I have been considering other video app options, only most of my friends and family are skype users... also I have been using skype for many years now, so it sucks their rotten suppprt for us android users...
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I really hate that we have to jump through hoops to have video chat on an Iconia. You see, it's really a selling point to have a front facing camera on a tablet. Automatically you would assume that since it has a front facing camera, it would have some video chat suite included..
lynxznet said:
I really hate that we have to jump through hoops to have video chat on an Iconia. You see, it's really a selling point to have a front facing camera on a tablet. Automatically you would assume that since it has a front facing camera, it would have some video chat suite included..
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It does, and it's included. It's called Google Talk, or on our tablets simply labeled "Talk". You can video chat with anyone on another tablet, pc, or even a mac.
kjy2010 said:
It does, and it's included. It's called Google Talk, or on our tablets simply labeled "Talk". You can video chat with anyone on another tablet, pc, or even a mac.
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I don't even think my Rom came with Google Talk, lol. Either way, I tried to use some google talk substitute before (can't recollect exactly what it was called), but.. it was quite bad =P
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Tango works perfectly and its free, you can download it at Market.
Cheers!
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Everybody i know uses skype. Do we expect them all to change just so I can use the iconia for vid conferencing?
Tango doesn't work that well... Personally I tested it and it has a lot of audio problems. Anyway that's not the majoir problem with it. Tango is not a pc platform. I want be able to talk to anybody not just to the ones having a smartphone or a tablet. That's why Skype is superior, cause it works on every platform, and that's why it would be great having video support. It's all theoretical of course, cause, due to the fact our a500 mic is the worst mic ever built, to talk to somebody is impossible for the ones not living in the middle of a desert... To use voice I have to yell so loud that I could wake up ppl living 2 miles from my house.
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Everybody i know uses skype. Do we expect them all to change just so I can use the iconia for vid conferencing?
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Well, actually, yes. Skype is not very well supported on most mobile devices, as it is more of a PC app.
In my opinion, the best multi-platform thing going is Google Talk. It works on all of my current devices -- phone, tablet, desktop and notebook PCs. Anyone that I know who won't switch to Google Talk will only get to talk with me when I'm in front of my PC, and since I got the A500, the time spent in front of my PC is lessening every day.
If Skype doesn't quickly start improving support for mobile devices, it's only a matter of time before it starts quickly losing popularity.
lynxznet said:
I don't even think my Rom came with Google Talk, lol. Either way, I tried to use some google talk substitute before (can't recollect exactly what it was called), but.. it was quite bad =P
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You didn't think it came with GTalk?!?
Do you really own an A500?!?
A GTalk substitute is not the same as GTalk.
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Well, actually, yes. Skype is not very well supported on most mobile devices, as it is more of a PC app.
In my opinion, the best multi-platform thing going is Google Talk. It works on all of my current devices -- phone, tablet, desktop and notebook PCs. Anyone that I know who won't switch to Google Talk will only get to talk with me when I'm in front of my PC, and since I got the A500, the time spent in front of my PC is lessening every day.
If Skype doesn't quickly start improving support for mobile devices, it's only a matter of time before it starts quickly losing popularity.
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Exactly! And if you have a PC, or Mac, all you have to do is login to your gmail account and you can GTalk video chat right in your browser.
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Except ours with video chat, but GTalk does video chat across all platforms ugh!
How do I explain my grandma to create new Google account so she can use gtalk when she uses skype for at least 10y, her answer is Why.
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dito33 said:
How do I explain my grandma to create new Google account so she can use gtalk when she uses skype for at least 10y, her answer is Why.
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You already have your answer. Why? Because Skype does not work on your tab, but Google talk does work. Skype is not a part of the Google family of products.
dito33 said:
How do I explain my grandma to create new Google account so she can use gtalk when she uses skype for at least 10y, her answer is Why.
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Get a new grandma! lol
I too wish Skype would just add video chat capabilities for all devices. It can't be THAT hard. I've got plenty of friends who use Skype, but I have absolutely NONE that use Google Talk and again, none of my friends' friends use it either so it wouldn't be possible to start converting them to Google Talk.
The simple fact is that Skype is way, WAY more popular than Google Talk.
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I too wish Skype would just add video chat capabilities for all devices. It can't be THAT hard. I've got plenty of friends who use Skype, but I have absolutely NONE that use Google Talk and again, none of my friends' friends use it either so it wouldn't be possible to start converting them to Google Talk.
The simple fact is that Skype is way, WAY more popular than Google Talk.
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When I got my tablet, no one used Google talk for VC, but all I had to do was ask, n it was easy cuz if you have a gmail account, which almost everyone does, either by choice or by Droid, you can chat. You don't need another account, another program, anything! And for the (very!) Few I come across that 1) want to VC with me, 2) have a Skype, 3) don't have a Droid, and 4) somehow missed the gmail revolution, I convert them. They get to talk to me, AND get better email. Win-win. N seriously, how often do you come across someone that fullfills all of those criteria? Cuz if they are missing any of those 4, you're set
Look.
http://f.cl.ly/items/043W2g391H0j2Z3m2n0N/IMG_7008.JPG
It is legit and will probably be finished in not too long. (I'm not the dev, hexxeh is.)
Going to be awesome, apparently everything is working atm, except some HW acceleration stuff, due to chromium having some weird bugs.
Currently booting from a USB Stick via the Dual Boot android method posted by lilsteve (I think this is how he did it not 100% sure) So dual boot with Android should be very, very possible.
I want this...
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TheDeadCpu said:
Look.
http://f.cl.ly/items/043W2g391H0j2Z3m2n0N/IMG_7008.JPG
It is legit and will probably be finished in not too long. (I'm not the dev, hexxeh is.)
Going to be awesome, apparently everything is working atm, except some HW acceleration stuff, due to chromium having some weird bugs.
Currently booting from a USB Stick via the Dual Boot android method posted by lilsteve (I think this is how he did it not 100% sure) So dual boot with Android should be very, very possible.
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Thanks TDC. This is great.
Read somewhere ChromeOS is highly reliant on the cloud, hence not much can be done without an active internet connection.
klau1 said:
Read somewhere ChromeOS is highly reliant on the cloud, hence not much can be done without an active internet connection.
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True .
Wow...
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klau1 said:
Read somewhere ChromeOS is highly reliant on the cloud, hence not much can be done without an active internet connection.
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So how often would you open Chrome on your TF without an active internet connection?
This is awesome. Thank for the news, can't wait.
Oh yes!!!
Xxq TZ pxX said:
So how often would you open Chrome on your TF without an active internet connection?
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How often do you use post without trying to seem like a smart ass?
How often do you use an OS that only works with an Internet connection?
how about a video of it running?
klau1 said:
How often do you use post without trying to seem like a smart ass?
How often do you use an OS that only works with an Internet connection?
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It will work with dual boot with android...
Ellerbestyle said:
how about a video of it running?
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Will get that when it's publicly available.
IMO I don't see the point of running ChromeOS on an Android device, ChromeOS is essentially just a web browser that runs web apps where as you can do all sorts of things with your Android device.
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IMO I don't see the point of running ChromeOS on an Android device, ChromeOS is essentially just a web browser that runs web apps where as you can do all sorts of things with your Android device.
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It's cause it's awesome and chrome os would probably be more web-compliant and you would probably have more luck runing websites that wouldn't normally work on android like, say, a java site, or even hulu
But lets face it, browsing in android is far from perfect, and Linux isnt completely working yet , so this is a great option. If you dont care about it, then simply ignore this post.
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Ellerbestyle said:
how about a video of it running?
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This.
The key to this being widely accepted is how well it performs, such as boot time and loading speed of HTML5 and Flash web pages. Chromebooks are designed to be instant-on devices, and if it still takes a good 45 seconds to boot up on a Transformer, then there's no point to running it over Android.
Seems more like a Trojan Horse from Google, for when they start issuing subscription fees to use their cloud base services.
Then you'll have to pay them because you've outsourced your PC for a LCD.
Soon enough, you will actually own NOTHING other than the LCD, with everything else being the property of the Cloud provider.
Do you want to become an constant source of income for Google or any company for that matter?
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Seems more like a Trojan Horse from Google, for when they start issuing subscription fees to use their cloud base services.
Then you'll have to pay them because you've outsourced your PC for a LCD.
Soon enough, you will actually own NOTHING other than the LCD, with everything else being the property of the Cloud provider.
Do you want to become an constant source of income for Google or any company for that matter?
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Umm...too many things to say, wont bother.
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klau1 said:
How often do you use post without trying to seem like a smart ass?
How often do you use an OS that only works with an Internet connection?
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I have a cr48, i love it.
Also this would be great for a 3g transformer.
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klau1 said:
Seems more like a Trojan Horse from Google, for when they start issuing subscription fees to use their cloud base services.
Then you'll have to pay them because you've outsourced your PC for a LCD.
Soon enough, you will actually own NOTHING other than the LCD, with everything else being the property of the Cloud provider.
Do you want to become an constant source of income for Google or any company for that matter?
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That's just a stupid reason to not use cloud service. Whoever doesn't backup locally is an idiot. People worried about losing files on Google Music/Doc when they start charging doesn't make any sense. Are you going to stop using gmail as well and host your own email server? There are always alternatives on internet.
People have been talking about charging fees for gmail, youtube, facebook...but it never happened.
Guess what, technology evolves. The cost of storage and server will drop lower and lower.
Please stay on topic - asking just about the phone capability please.
I have spent an hour searching the web and no thread indicates whether it is data only or also voice/phone capable.
I know that we can pull a phone application, but the question is if the modem is phone capable or not.
If you answer please link to your source, or share how you know.
I think for many if this is also a phone (and not just a VOIP sub-par option) it could go head to head with a Note2, with a reduced budget.
Thanks.
Even i am looking for this questions answer but not getting proper answer..Its not confirmed yet abt voice calls/sms
Add one more to the list of people who would like to know the answer to that question. I'd like to upgrade my Galaxy S, which is getting a bit long in the tooth, and I wouldn't mind to loose the back camera (I seldom use it anyway, plus I actually have a digital Point-and-shoot). Also, since I don't make that many calls, a small, cheap tablet makes total sense for me...
My guess is that, if the Nexus 7 with 3G is anything like the original Galaxy Tab (probably one of the original Android Tablets) on that department, then voice is a given. But you never know if the modem is crippled in any way...
Also, since we're on this topic, any news if the launch date is global, or only for the US? And if the 3G will be Europe-friendly, for that matter?
Miguel
I have used Line 2 on mine, so I don't see why it wouldn't work.
Interested in knowing too.
Interesting topic..i've plan to upgrade my n7 to n10 or n7 3g..
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This is exactly what I would like to know. Is there hardware that needs to the N7 to make it 3g capable or will Google send and an update to current N7 owners?
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Is there hardware that needs to the N7 to make it 3g capable or will Google send and an update to current N7 owners?
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As far as I know, currently shipping N7s completely lack any kind of 3G-capable hardware. It's simply not installed, period. And, since that hardware it's a tiny chip with even tinier contact points that needs to be soldered at manufacturing time (not to mention the rest of the supporting hardware, including the antenna, and already supposing the PCB actually has the required traces in place, which may or may not be the case), then ANY currently N7s being sold will never be 3G capable by themselves. Unless someone develops some kind of dongle to be added, though I don't even know if that's possible...
So, unless I'm terribly wrong, to get an N7 with 3G, you'll need a new one.
Now, one question that popped into my mind in the meanwhile. There was at least one review that took the N7 apart that found out the PCB for the N7 actually has a mounting area for a back camera, and probably all the PCB traces are in place, too. At the time, the reviewer said it could have been a leftover from the design phase, or something that had to be cut back due to the target cost. With these new SKUs popping up, do you think Google will eventually throw the back camera in at some point?
Miguel
i,ve asked google customer support several days ago on this same question but not yet get an answer. one thing i,m certain is that this all depends on the modem.that is, the modem may be data connection capable only, or may also be capable for making voice calls.
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decemberpei said:
i,ve asked google customer support several days ago on this same question but not yet get an answer.
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How did you manage to do that? I've been all over Google's support pages and have found nothing that even remotely looked like an e-mail address where we could ask for questions. Or a support form, for that matter...
any news regarding that? i really want to know!
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any news regarding that? i really want to know!
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My guess is, unless someone can get their hands on one of them before November 13th, we'll have to wait until at least then to get this question answered.
Also, a bit OT, but does anyone know launch dates for all countries? It would suck so much to have to cross the border just to get my hands on one... Right now, you can only get the 32GB Nexus 7 in Portugal (we completely skipped the 8GB and 16GB versions, they were never even available, though the good news is that we got the 32GB version along with the US), though only through retail (no Play Store for anything other than apps).
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How did you manage to do that? I've been all over Google's support pages and have found nothing that even remotely looked like an e-mail address where we could ask for questions. Or a support form, for that matter...
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I can't remember very clearly . i just playing around at android.com looking for some customer support page,where i could ask questions via email since i am not at us. i finally made it at some page like 'my order'. i filled in some personal info,and managed to sent out my question to google. the 'order id' field was not required, but after that i was not able to find the page anymore. the support pages really sucks. just toooooo much links and i keep jumping everywhere and finally get lost,
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If its no voice calls then i will not buy i guess,better i will buy galaxy tab 2 but NoT sure but on gsmarena.com they mentioned that ONLY DATA,NO VOICE CALLS on uppar side of specs.
I have been trying to find the answer to this question as well without any luck. Would be nice to get this confirmed or denied in a official way but i guess we wont know untill nov 13th
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How did you manage to do that? I've been all over Google's support pages and have found nothing that even remotely looked like an e-mail address where we could ask for questions. Or a support form, for that matter...
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here the response from google customer support: The Nexus 7 3G version currently does not have a built-in phone app, so it will not be capable of making any phone calls. It has 3G data connectivity and Wifi as of now and currently may be used with any carrier that supports GSM/UMTS/HSPA+.
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decemberpei said:
here the response from google customer support: The Nexus 7 3G version currently does not have a built-in phone app, so it will not be capable of making any phone calls. It has 3G data connectivity and Wifi as of now and currently may be used with any carrier that supports GSM/UMTS/HSPA+.
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Still can't find anything besides a "send feedback" link over at Android.com. I think you were extremely lucky
Anyway, that reply might be a good thing after all: we all know the phone app is disabled for the N7, it has been said before. However, as someone also already mentioned, it's usually possible for people to enable that app, even if you need a custom ROM for it. So, assuming the whole "does not have a built-in phone app" thing only means "we didn't enable voice capabilities because, frankly, it would cannibalize our other offerings, but the underlying hardware is perfectly capable of doing that" (not that you would actually hear anyone from Google saying that, or have them write that down... lol), we'll be golden.
Is any way you can reply to that e-mail and specifically ask which is the baseband/chipset they will be using for the data capabilities? If we had that tidbit of information, we should be able to know if voice could be unlocked or not...
What a way to start my day, with a hopeful news... Nice!
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Still can't find anything besides a "send feedback" link over at Android.com. I think you were extremely lucky
Anyway, that reply might be a good thing after all: we all know the phone app is disabled for the N7, it has been said before. However, as someone also already mentioned, it's usually possible for people to enable that app, even if you need a custom ROM for it. So, assuming the whole "does not have a built-in phone app" thing only means "we didn't enable voice capabilities because, frankly, it would cannibalize our other offerings, but the underlying hardware is perfectly capable of doing that" (not that you would actually hear anyone from Google saying that, or have them write that down... lol), we'll be golden.
Is any way you can reply to that e-mail and specifically ask which is the baseband/chipset they will be using for the data capabilities? If we had that tidbit of information, we should be able to know if voice could be unlocked or not...
What a way to start my day, with a hopeful news... Nice!
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i reply the customer support's email with another question but they didn't give me the direct answer!
my qusetion was:
"thanks for your kindly help. would you tell we if the hardware modem itself supports voice calls? as you know,in android,a 3rd party phone app could take the work of the built-in phone app. so lack of built-in phone app really doesn't matter much. eager for your reply and thanks again!"
their response:
" The N7 3G version can be used for Voice over IP calls, such as Skype, or Google Voice, etc but you will not be able to use the tablet as a phone. Hope that helps."
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their response:
" The N7 3G version can be used for Voice over IP calls, such as Skype, or Google Voice, etc but you will not be able to use the tablet as a phone. Hope that helps."
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I think that kind of confirms where the blogsphere is currently on this topic.
No cell for us
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How did you manage to do that? I've been all over Google's support pages and have found nothing that even remotely looked like an e-mail address where we could ask for questions. Or a support form, for that matter...
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Apparently you did not look that hard..
Google Contact Page
Device Support Number 1-855-836-3987
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Werwood said:
I think that kind of confirms where the blogsphere is currently on this topic.
No cell for us
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Technically No...
It doesn't answer whether or not the modem(radio) inside the device has been limited (hardware wise) to only a Data connection.
The N7 runs the tablet version of Android, which means the Phone Feature (dialer, etc) has been removed.
The phone dialer you see on some tablets, are custom to that manufacturer, not added by Google.
What we need to know is if the Hardware part of the N7 will allow for a Voice connection to be made. If so, then the Software part can be added back in. Which I'm sure if the hardware needed is there, then the many geniuses here on XDA will quickly make the Dialer appear
And I might be completely mistaken here, but SMS should be possible since its Technically Data, and only requires a Phone Number to route the messages. If SMS is possible, I would be happy with just that, as I do not use voice (if I needed to, I have a cell for that, which I pay an extreme amount for, but only make on average 2 calls a month) - But this would also require the SMS app be added back into the N7 firmware.
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I think it all come down to Waiting... Waiting for the device to be release, and someone taking it apart to see what its capable of.
Since Google employees people in their service department that are not completely "Tech" savvy, I don't think we can take any answer they give as fact.
I called them the other day, and asked about the Modem/Radio within the Nexus 7 3G.. and The CSR answer was "No you can not plug a Phone Cord or Ethernet cable into the device, and if you want to listen to the radio you must download a 3rd Party App or Try our Google Music service, but it's not a radio" - Couldn't help but laugh uncontrollably for 10min straight.