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WM 6.5 Vs 6.1

I don't know what about you guys, but I think that our phone cannot "carry out" the load of the WM 6.5.
I have tried all the great ROM's up to now - indeed great improvement, but still not getting to the latest performance, stability as well as power consumer as the 6.1.
We need to admit that our Polaris does not meet the "Vista" of the mobile requirement - and frankly, it is not expected to be like that.
From my point of view, we need to focus over the latest WM6.1 but to update it always with the latest application available in the market.
No other choice but to wait for WM7, maybe it will be lighter and faster than the 6.5.

Objections!
There is some drop in performance and battery life on Polaris with 6.5 compared to 6.1 but it is barely noticeable in day-to-day use (I use pcarvalho's 6.5 ROM - no complains).
As to the most important part - focusing on 6.1... it is like telling people to get to Windows 98 from XP. WM 6.5 has some framework features under the hood that are just unavailable in 6.1 and I mean not just Titanium or honeycomb menu... 6.1 is a bye-bye past and it is just pointless to waste time on "making it better".
Yet another thing. I think most of people here would agree that they live by the principles of "what if..." and "why not?". I think people here are driven by the process of exploring and testing new stuff itself, rather than by the results it may bring Than the idea of using slower, battery-hungrier, buggier WM 6.5 would not sound stupid.

I've tried both and I can understand what you're saying here, but then again you need to remember a lot of these cooks include lots of programs that a lot of people can do without (ie Remote desktop, MSN Money, etc...). Even if they're not running, the more free program memory you have on the device, the easier it is for it 'breathe'.
I remember updating my first HTC from 5.0 to 6.0 actually made it run faster on its OMAP 200mhz CPU. My second HTC upgrading from 6.0 to 6.1 also felt a bit faster, but not as much as 5.0 to 6.0.
6.5 undoubtedly is slower for me, I was using udk's 6.1 and now pcar's 6.5 (just for the record, they are BOTH VERY TALENTED cooks), but I think it's slower because as you said the device is reaching its limits with what the new OS's are offering.
A nice idea is if some people can maintain on the main forums a standardized benchmark of WM OS's on different devices, based on their naked version to compare as much as possible. I think when I have time I’ll benchmark the different ROM's offered for the Polaris and share with everyone.
On either case, you have to love this community & cooks for always breathing in new life to all our devices, I really encourage people to donate whatever to the site or cooks you are downloading from, it does help encourage them... at least show them some gratitude!
As for my next device, I believe the HD2 is for the first time a MAJOR upgrade for HTC devices with its snapdragon 1Ghz processor and increased RAM...I’ll probably keep the Polaris for at least another 6 months so that I can buy the HD2 at a less-premium price. I just hope the whole camera issue is fixed...they've always had problems with that - there's no point in having a 3MP camera if it has a really slow fps rate and can't get a proper focus on pics!
Well, that was my ramble!
Best regards,
Alan

DesertsStorm said:
Objections!
There is some drop in performance and battery life on Polaris with 6.5 compared to 6.1 but it is barely noticeable in day-to-day use (I use pcarvalho's 6.5 ROM - no complains).
As to the most important part - focusing on 6.1... it is like telling people to get to Windows 98 from XP. WM 6.5 has some framework features under the hood that are just unavailable in 6.1 and I mean not just Titanium or honeycomb menu... 6.1 is a bye-bye past and it is just pointless to waste time on "making it better".
Yet another thing. I think most of people here would agree that they live by the principles of "what if..." and "why not?". I think people here are driven by the process itself, rather than by the results it may bring
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I agree on this - I was writing my post just as you posted yours. I'm using pcar's and no objections for me, although I believe a lite\naked version could help with the response rate of the device (it's not slow at all, but udk's was just REALLY fast).
I've already asked pcar for a LITE\NAKED version, but poor guy is already giving so much of his time developing the new ROMs as well as the support...i've never seen a cook so active and dedicated...probably the best quality in a cook as you have the confidance that he will work & solve all issues & improvements. But hopefully he will manage to offer a stripped-down version.

It's right! WM6.5 on Polaris is not for a daily usage. I'm so satisfied with 6.1-3lit3VIII.

Well, i do believe wm 6.5 is very good with all new features, but it's just too much for polaris to handle. The best option would be to have all improvements from 6.5 core(HSUPA f.e.) minus all that flashy menus and such.
Also, i cannot stand the way it wants me to use it(mainly fingers), I like my stylus, and i don't want to smudge it with my fingers. Why there isn't a option to let me choose how do i want to control it?
tl;dr make a naked version of 6.5

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DesertsStorm said:
Objections!
There is some drop in performance and battery life on Polaris with 6.5 compared to 6.1 but it is barely noticeable in day-to-day use (I use pcarvalho's 6.5 ROM - no complains).
As to the most important part - focusing on 6.1... it is like telling people to get to Windows 98 from XP. WM 6.5 has some framework features under the hood that are just unavailable in 6.1 and I mean not just Titanium or honeycomb menu... 6.1 is a bye-bye past and it is just pointless to waste time on "making it better".
Yet another thing. I think most of people here would agree that they live by the principles of "what if..." and "why not?". I think people here are driven by the process of exploring and testing new stuff itself, rather than by the results it may bring Than the idea of using slower, battery-hungrier, buggier WM 6.5 would not sound stupid.
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I agree with the concept of what you have written, however if we will be case specific, the 6.5 version is to "heavy" for our "not young" Polaris. up to WM6.1 (XP) the system could be optimize for very good performance, but since WM6.5 (Vista), the Mobile is consuming 30-40% power (why?) and the response display can be really feel on daily use.
I don't think that this is compare to win98 - it is relative to XP that still continue to be use today, although the Win7 is out....
Mainly on the daily bases you don’t care which OS you have, as long as it runs fast and stable

100% correct
alanazar said:
I've tried both and I can understand what you're saying here, but then again you need to remember a lot of these cooks include lots of programs that a lot of people can do without (ie Remote desktop, MSN Money, etc...). Even if they're not running, the more free program memory you have on the device, the easier it is for it 'breathe'.
I remember updating my first HTC from 5.0 to 6.0 actually made it run faster on its OMAP 200mhz CPU. My second HTC upgrading from 6.0 to 6.1 also felt a bit faster, but not as much as 5.0 to 6.0.
6.5 undoubtedly is slower for me, I was using udk's 6.1 and now pcar's 6.5 (just for the record, they are BOTH VERY TALENTED cooks), but I think it's slower because as you said the device is reaching its limits with what the new OS's are offering.
A nice idea is if some people can maintain on the main forums a standardized benchmark of WM OS's on different devices, based on their naked version to compare as much as possible. I think when I have time I’ll benchmark the different ROM's offered for the Polaris and share with everyone.
On either case, you have to love this community & cooks for always breathing in new life to all our devices, I really encourage people to donate whatever to the site or cooks you are downloading from, it does help encourage them... at least show them some gratitude!
As for my next device, I believe the HD2 is for the first time a MAJOR upgrade for HTC devices with its snapdragon 1Ghz processor and increased RAM...I’ll probably keep the Polaris for at least another 6 months so that I can buy the HD2 at a less-premium price. I just hope the whole camera issue is fixed...they've always had problems with that - there's no point in having a 3MP camera if it has a really slow fps rate and can't get a proper focus on pics!
Agree with every single word, I have nothing to say about the great and huge cookers and there very good work, I just wanted to "heads up" people to re-think again about the current HW Vs the New OS - sometimes, it doesn't work well not meter what you are going to do...
By the way, this is why there is new 1 GHz CPU
Probably I'll stay with the latest 6.1 version up to the time I'll replace my mobile.
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Im using PCarvalho latest build 23053 and i have almost no complains...its fast and battery is normal as in 6.1.all i do is run cleanram twice a day.
Sometimes it does freeze and i have to soft reset but not often enough to piss me off,and theres a problem with scrolling big lists in file explorer.

I agree with Yinnon-I also tried 6.5 (Costas early version wich was great),but I saw that the performance in 6.1 is better and got back to M-Amine 6.1-till I buys my new device.

ys222 said:
Mainly on the daily bases you don’t care which OS you have, as long as it runs fast and stable
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Oh, I do!!! I so MUCH do!! Remember those Win 98 times when you would loose all your work and were forced to reboot just because any inserted corrupt floppy disk or media player that stopped responding would DEFINITELY result in BSOD??? And it didn't matter for me back then that my PC would run like 50% slower with Win2000 because I knew stability and reliability is sometimes more important than speed.
As to the features of WM6.5 I'll repeat that in day-to-day use (like 3 weeks since I've installed pcarvalho's latest ROM) I don't see any major performance problems on my Polaris whatsoever. Battery life is shorter, that's it. Media or GPS software, M2D v.2.0, Camera, 2G calls, you name it - everything runs good and stable. Not rocket-fast, like on some naked 6.1 ROMs but I just don't care, cause 6.1 is a thing of past for me.
P.S. Wanna see some real problems with performance? Try installing 3D drivers and Touch Flo 3D

ZED_pt said:
Im using PCarvalho latest build 23053 and i have almost no complains...its fast and battery is normal as in 6.1.all i do is run cleanram twice a day.
Sometimes it does freeze and i have to soft reset but not often enough to piss me off,and theres a problem with scrolling big lists in file explorer.
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This is not a performance problem? To use "clean ram" twice a day is normal?

Wazowski68 said:
This is not a performance problem? To use "clean ram" twice a day is normal?
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I'm just afraid to think using larger cache in Opera 9.7 in wm6.5...

Wazowski68 said:
This is not a performance problem? To use "clean ram" twice a day is normal?
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But of course its wrong to run clean ram twice a day! Oh my god! ... manually! Twice a day!!! I would just write a script to do that for me!
No, seriously, people thats for everyone personally to decide what to use and what ROM to cook (maybe those cooks are bored with 6.1 and had enough of it already - didn't you think about that? ) . But don't forget that if there is a problem, it doesn't mean the whole thing is bad and should be abandoned. Maybe you will find it more interesting to try to solve the problem.

I do not know... the polaris has four major drawbacks from my point of view: the camera should be better, it has no accelerometer, has no TV/music out mode and the technology of the screen is "primitive". For the rest I think the polaris was so well equiped that even now can resist hardware comparison with newer machines. After two years my polaris was stolen and I had to buy a new htc and after comparing I ended with another Polaris.
In my opinion, the big issue is about how many people are there developing software, drivers, roms, etc. People around has been able to install wm6.1, 6.5, android, unix, 3d drivers... it is only a matter of software and unfortunately, most of polaris users in xda have moved to newer devices.
Regarding your question I love naked versions: if you like pcarvalho try 21820 LT, I did not upgrade anymore after that version. You can also try mine Lite rom too, I think it is fast ... but it is just born I am a new to cooking. If you go for 6.1 naked I recommend swtos roms better than any other ones, even the one you mention (at least at the time I had it installed).
I personally would never go back to 6.1 and not even in another life to windows 6.0. I only feel bad about not discovering/daring custom roms before. For me 6.5 battery life is only noticeable when using gps outdoor in the mountain: 4 hours and my phone is dry, which is something you do not want to happen in the mountain, so I have learned to use the GPS only for finding my way when I have problems rather than recording all the way. WM 6.5 more than anything offers me thumb.friendly menus and scrolling. Polaris continues to offer me a good all-in-one choice. If you can live without high demanding UI (lots of things in memory and lots of scrolling and redrawing) I think 6.5 is still a bearable OS for our old Polaris. The difficult point becomes then how to strip the core wm6.5 from the fancy UI around it.
Let's wait for a com5 kitchen of for a naked pcarvalhos rom !!!

cruiserrr said:
I do not know... the polaris has four major drawbacks from my point of view: the camera should be better, it has no accelerometer, has no TV/music out mode and the technology of the screen is "primitive". For the rest I think the polaris was so well equiped that even now can resist hardware comparison with newer machines. After two years my polaris was stolen and I had to buy a new htc and after comparing I ended with another Polaris.
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I totally agree with you...not just with the Polaris but with most of the HTC devices, this is why HD2 is (FINALLY!) a leap in hardware advancements. Ofcourse it still lacks the TV-Out & not sure about the camera but hopefully the camera will be resolved with the LED lighting as it's the light-filter that slows the fps down. I just hope the next-gen devices see the same leaps in technology & power as opposed to small improvements here & there!
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In my opinion, the big issue is about how many people are there developing software, drivers, roms, etc. People around has been able to install wm6.1, 6.5, android, unix, 3d drivers... it is only a matter of software and unfortunately, most of polaris users in xda have moved to newer devices.
Regarding your question I love naked versions: if you like pcarvalho try 21820 LT, I did not upgrade anymore after that version. You can also try mine Lite rom too, I think it is fast ... but it is just born I am a new to cooking. If you go for 6.1 naked I recommend swtos roms better than any other ones, even the one you mention (at least at the time I had it installed).
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Exactly, my phone is reminding me of the days of the old pentium 1-2 & upgrading from Windows 95 to 98 to 2000, etc ...as long as the hardware can keep up performance-wise with the new software. We have an amazing community of cooks, testers, and users to keep the best coming, and while a lot of the earlier cooks left, thankfully we're still seeing some good talent coming on to the scene. And hopefully we'll be seeing more naked versions as well!
Eventually I think the polaris vs the new software generations will naturally push us to the newer\faster models with more hardware features to make the most out of... and this is before being dumped again by those cooks with more money hehe
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I personally would never go back to 6.1 and not even in another life to windows 6.0. I only feel bad about not discovering/daring custom roms before. For me 6.5 battery life is only noticeable when using gps outdoor in the mountain: 4 hours and my phone is dry, which is something you do not want to happen in the mountain, so I have learned to use the GPS only for finding my way when I have problems rather than recording all the way. WM 6.5 more than anything offers me thumb.friendly menus and scrolling. Polaris continues to offer me a good all-in-one choice. If you can live without high demanding UI (lots of things in memory and lots of scrolling and redrawing) I think 6.5 is still a bearable OS for our old Polaris. The difficult point becomes then how to strip the core wm6.5 from the fancy UI around it.
Let's wait for a com5 kitchen of for a naked pcarvalhos rom !!!
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I'm with you 100%. btw, regarding the battery & GPS, if you're running the GPS for 4 hours it's going to drain your battery regardless of the OS you're using. In that case for the mountains, consider getting a solar or AA battery-powered charger (should be just a few $).
Regarding 'com5', i've always wanted to ask what is com2, com3 etc... i searched the forums but it was hard to find the right post with those keywords...can someone please explain? Thanks!

Just my 2 cents. I came to Polaris after 3 unhappy days spent with Touch Pro (will not comment it at all) Only thing I dislike with Polaris is a yellowish color temperature of the screen. And thats it.
Wm6.5 is definitely not heavy for Polaris - unless you understand wm6.5 is all about Titanium and Honeycomb start menu. The problem is that cookers mostly post ROMs overloaded with various things that YOU might never need (and cannot edit). Try one of 6.5 kithens (Gullum's is excellent) and clear everything you don't need from it to see how fast wm6.5 can be. My Polaris has some 62 MB free with S2U2, Today Agenda, HTC Home (yep, usability over looks) and pTravel alarm running on homescreen (all cooked into ROM). It is faster compared to 3lite VI naked ROM I flashed to my brother's Polaris. (3lite VI ROM is mentioned only as example, and is one of the best and fastest 6.1 ROMs IMPO).
From my experience wm6.5 biggest advantage is in tweaked interface compared to 6.1 (for example finger friendly tree-dialogue menus, taskbar buttons on the bottom of the screen, finger friendly contacts and calendar apps etc.), with some other minor glitches of 6.1 resolved. Add to that fact that with recent builds you have visible changes between them and you can choose one according to your preferences - gives you something very promising and inevitable.

HD Rom and Radio Recommendation Pretty Please

Good Evening everyone,
I have recently got my hands on a HTC HD with WinMo 6.1
I was wondering if someone would be able to recommend me the following:
WinMo 6.5.1 Rom with HTC Manila (Or Sense??)
What people think the best Radio is for Battery life vs signal strength? (If it helps I am on UK T-Mobile)
Thanks in advance, greatly appreciated...

Honestly, over a year I've had this phone, and I've tried hundreds of ROMs and for the last month, I'm back to stock rom. They're all great, but you must try them first, you might like them, you might not. There are too many I like for me to mention. Try http://pocketpc-live.com/touch-hd/best-rom-for-htc-touch-hd.html

As stated above, far to many roms to choose from, and everyone has different opinions so couldn't select one for you as my opinion changes daily. As for radio, this can be dependant on your location so again you would need to try a few, though there is only a small amount of radio's to choose from

In 10 days as I have Blackstone, ROM in my signature is 4th.
I guess I'll stick with it for some time since I don't see much advantage in 6.5.x ROMs...
It's my opinion.

Thanks for the replies, Just wanted to know what peoples favs are at present. I am downloading about 4 different roms to try. Currently trying Duttys as I have used his before on my TD but don't think this one is right for me so will see what the other four are like, but its going to be leaving them over night taking a long time to download ......

I've used the stock ROM 6.1 for about a year and was satisfied with it but there was nothing finger friendly there, I had to tweak font size of popup menus and such to have some kind of finger friendly device.
A month ago, I switched to the ROM on my signature and also updated the Radio to the latest release.
From a OS point of view, this ROM (6.5) just flies, this is quite incredible. I've tried several other ROMs (Xnor, PDAViet) all being 6.5.x ROMs but I reverted back. WM 6.1 and 6.5 are fine and quite speedy but 6.5.x (bottom startmenu and close button) are way too experimental yet and thus very slow and heavy to deal with everyday (at least for me). Do not misunderstand me, the above mentioned ROM are well done by their authors, I blame WM 6.5.x for all the slowlyness I faced during tests, I'm sure there was no special fault from the cooks.
I intend to cook this ROM a bit to change some aspects but nothing fundamental. I recommend it, it's very fast and stable.
From a Radio point of view, I must admit that 1.17.x (with latest RILPhone cab too) makes dialing a bit faster (less laggy) and gets signal in very adverse conditions but in the other hand, drains a bit more battery. I was previously using 1.13.x radio from the stock WWE ROM so one of these days, I'll downgrade to 1.14.x radio to see if I still get the increased battery usage.
Hope this helps a bit.

WM 6.5 New Builds Speed Change?

Just a quick one, its been a few months since i reflashed my Touch HD and i was wondering since the Dutty/ Miri days the WM 6.5 was useable but still slow when you open a few apps etc. From the top of my head i think the standard was 70% used resources compared to around 35% on WM 6.1
I noticed a fair few roms popping up with 6.5 which mention speed etc, has there been any or huge improvement of 6.5.x on the HD or is it still using masses amount of resources?
Regards,
Alex

Well i tried several com2 releases and previous version and the WM 6.5 still seems to be unusable on the touch HD. It hogs too many resources making it ok i guess for day to day with a reboot but if you want to keep the phone running longer it grinds down to a halt much faster than 6.1.
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I posted something similar to this, this morning.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=693356
It looks like I'll be looking to downgrade to 6.1 soon.

Guys, if you mainly want 6.5 for Sense 2.5 prettyness, the new Frankenstein WM6.1+Sense 2.5 releases are very bug free, particularly compared to the only old one (which was only proof of concept ((ty miri xoxo)))
Ive thoroughly tried the proof of concept when it was the only one available (about a month ago) and have used Cloudys for quite a few weeks now, if you want 36-40 percent ram free and use sense 2.5 the way it should run, seriously task29 ur hd and give one of the two a go
The other one is Blacknew by Kenia.
6.1 is suited for the HD's specs, all 6.5 is too demanding for it, I don't think you'll ever find a 6.5 with sense 2.5 as speedy and awesome as the Frankenstein builds.

qwertylesh said:
Guys, if you mainly want 6.5 for Sense 2.5 prettyness, the new Frankenstein WM6.1+Sense 2.5 releases are very bug free, particularly compared to the only old one (which was only proof of concept ((ty miri xoxo)))
Ive thoroughly tried the proof of concept when it was the only one available (about a month ago) and have used Cloudys for quite a few weeks now, if you want 36-40 percent ram free and use sense 2.5 the way it should run, seriously task29 ur hd and give one of the two a go
The other one is Blacknew by Kenia.
6.1 is suited for the HD's specs, all 6.5 is too demanding for it, I don't think you'll ever find a 6.5 with sense 2.5 as speedy and awesome as the Frankenstein builds.
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qwertylesh, thanks for the reply.
I was getting a bit fed up with the speed of the UI.
Someone in my thread suggested I try getting rid of Sense 2.5 which should speed things up, which is probably the first thing Im going to try.

whats your fav rom?

i just wanted to know the most faved roms out there give me sort of an idea for which one for me to choose

Jay321 said:
i just wanted to know the most faved roms out there give me sort of an idea for which one for me to choose
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Mine is MaxSense Energy. Quickest ROM I've used, most frequently updated, I haven't had to soft reset my device because of it once. Very reliable, imo

My personal favorite is the "Energy" rom... Same reasons stated above... Updated every few days it seems, very fast, stable, and looks "pretty"... Plus I get a great battery life...

Forget the ROM upgrading madness.
Check my sig.

Mine so far is Deepshining's Roms. They run smooth and battery is good. I changed to Energy cht (Dinik) rom for a few weeks loved some of the apps cooked in and really cool looking but i had to soft reset more than normal and my battery life did not last as long as i would like. i never got sod's but the reseting was killing me so i went back to Deepshining a few days ago and back to happiness!! Im not knocking energy roms but it just didnt work for me.
So i would say Deepshining is my fav at the moment, i have been looking at seeM_ZA rom, simplicity. Cause i want something with the basics and cht cooked in but that rom has no Facebook so im just a lurker for now.

hello everybody the best rom is energy rom is excelent the best

moSess said:
Forget the ROM upgrading madness.
Check my sig.
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i agree but no GPS inside and i miss 6.1 start menu that isn't here as i was thinking it would be
so more battery cause of lack of features!!
trying to find substitution for it....

Illuminati Series:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718561

Jukica said:
i agree but no GPS inside and i miss 6.1 start menu that isn't here as i was thinking it would be
so more battery cause of lack of features!!
trying to find substitution for it....
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With 1.3a, GPS works like charm. And with little bit of registry editing you get your 6.1 start menu with manila programs tab enabled. I just love the rom. Allthough Jackos has build it for maximum ram efficiency, the rom is the fastest i've used. I suggest you to try it. It sets the bar high for other roms.
Big thanks to the developer!

Deepshining for me. Its the first rom I tried and I havent tried another. Battery life is good, its stable and its updated in good time. No soft resetting issues or sods

I've tested all tp2 roms and have to say that Jackos showLITE is the best...

E N E R G Y R O M is the BEST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stock WM 6.5
I am very,very satisfied with original,stock WM 6.5 ROM.
It runs flawlessly. No objections.

NRGZ28's most recent Cookie Energy ROM

ive been using the JackFull v1.4 rom since release Aug. 01, 2010. absolutly no major issues you find in the other mainstream roms. (sod's, memory leaks, power drainage) the rom is very smooth. the chef, jackos, is dedicated to his thread and helps resolve any issues promptly. on a fresh install, i get 310mb of storage and 95-100mb of ram. its a great "lite" rom for you to build on. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=632617

Mine is the simplicity ROM. Its been the fastest for me and has been updated during the time I've had it.

HD2 Stable Sense Rom, Decent Battery Life

Anyone know a good sense rom with decent battery life that will last over 12 hours while at work, or isn't there one out atm ? and also as a2sd onit

If you absolutely want sense, which I wouldn't recommend, 'cause it's buggy on HD2, you should try out Sense of Eclipse. People who can't live without Sense, say it's the best.

sense is not buggy on the hd2, sense3 is buggy but the older sense versions are stable for every day use

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sense is not buggy on the hd2, sense3 is buggy but the older sense versions are stable for every day use
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What sense rom would you recommend? the rom i have is pretty good and stable battery life lasts about 18 hours but the lcd density is to small, when i change it through emulator it kills battery as its using a lot of cpu

try [21 APR][RAM HD] imilka's Glacier Sense v4.0 [MT4G][A2SD][K:raf1.9OC]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919148
one of the best sense roms out there
very stable, good battery life, fast and smooth
look at post #895 for some fixes
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14844351&postcount=895

If you want a SD build Try MccMBoxmaX GS V7.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038694
My phone is now 5and 11 minutes hour of the charger with normal use.
2 calls of 5 minute's
5 time's Read SMS / Mail
And some browsing ~10 minute's
My CPU is between 245 and 1305 mhz at screen on and 245 at screen off.
My battery is now 82%

LaneyEFC said:
What sense rom would you recommend? the rom i have is pretty good and stable battery life lasts about 18 hours but the lcd density is to small, when i change it through emulator it kills battery as its using a lot of cpu
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have yolu changed the lcd denisty in the build.prop file or used the lcd density changer available fromthe market?

LaneyEFC said:
What sense rom would you recommend? the rom i have is pretty good and stable battery life lasts about 18 hours but the lcd density is to small, when i change it through emulator it kills battery as its using a lot of cpu
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I am using the same ROM you have and would recommend changing the LCD density using a file explorer and change the build.prop file from 167 to either 217 (native density for HD2) or 240 which I prefer. I have really good battery life on this ROM. The only Sense ROM that I have used that has better battery life is Cmylxgo's Desire HD(2) ROM. Best battery life at a consistent 2-3mA on stand by. But I am on a TMOUS phone. Cmylxgo does have a ROM version for EU phones but I have never tried it to compare it to the US version.

swaipa said:
If you absolutely want sense, which I wouldn't recommend, 'cause it's buggy on HD2, you should try out Sense of Eclipse. People who can't live without Sense, say it's the best.
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What planet are you living on?

slbenz said:
I am using the same ROM you have and would recommend changing the LCD density using a file explorer and change the build.prop file from 167 to either 217 (native density for HD2) or 240 which I prefer. I have really good battery life on this ROM. The only Sense ROM that I have used that has better battery life is Cmylxgo's Desire HD(2) ROM. Best battery life at a consistent 2-3mA on stand by. But I am on a TMOUS phone. Cmylxgo does have a ROM version for EU phones but I have never tried it to compare it to the US version.
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cheers mate it worked, tbh i only thought there was one way to change the density and that killed me battery in average of 8/9 hours which is below poor, thanks again bud

i don't wanna open another thread... i'll be more specific with the OP question...
I'm also looking for an Android build bo matter if it is old or new... the main request is to make this phone look as a native android phone... I mean I've head different builds... SD or NAND... but in the end I always got back to Win Mo... so is there a very stable build which has all the functions and battery ok?...

I have been using MccM's Sense 2.1+3.0 for a couple days now and it works extremely well. The smoothest sense build that I have tried!

Here is a good one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15020608#
I did not tested, but it will work really great. It is the newest JW MIUI and it has sense too.

MCCM HD V4.5 (SD version)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954030
After trying out so many builds I think this is the best build with almost no bugs and very decent battery life (18 hours approx). Give it a try.

chandureddy99 said:
MCCM HD V4.5 (SD version)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954030
After trying out so many builds I think this is the best build with almost no bugs and very decent battery life (18 hours approx). Give it a try.
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Sorry i had forgot to mention i was after a nand version, but my problem as been solved now thanks anyways

The original OP asked the question I wanted, but I can't see a direct reply. Rather than start a new thread therefore can I ask the original question again? I installed the original Desire HD Nand OS but found it kept freezing (especially using Copilot) so went back to WinMo. So 6 months on, is there a stable Sense NAND ROM I can look at? And yes, good or bad I would still like Sense.
I can only understand simple replies (!) as I haven't been following discussions or developments for ages so will have to re-learn how to do all the upgrade thing. Handset still has MAGLDR 1.13 and HSPL.
Cheers all!

LaneyEFC said:
cheers mate it worked, tbh i only thought there was one way to change the density and that killed me battery in average of 8/9 hours which is below poor, thanks again bud
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Glad to be of help. Now you don't have to use that emulator that is sucking your battery dry. Not sure why Pongster likes that 167 density. It is definitely too small for me to read comfortably. I guess my eyes aren't as good as Pongster's.

ccezar2004 said:
i don't wanna open another thread... i'll be more specific with the OP question...
I'm also looking for an Android build bo matter if it is old or new... the main request is to make this phone look as a native android phone... I mean I've head different builds... SD or NAND... but in the end I always got back to Win Mo... so is there a very stable build which has all the functions and battery ok?...
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800jimbo said:
The original OP asked the question I wanted, but I can't see a direct reply. Rather than start a new thread therefore can I ask the original question again? I installed the original Desire HD Nand OS but found it kept freezing (especially using Copilot) so went back to WinMo. So 6 months on, is there a stable Sense NAND ROM I can look at? And yes, good or bad I would still like Sense.
I can only understand simple replies (!) as I haven't been following discussions or developments for ages so will have to re-learn how to do all the upgrade thing. Handset still has MAGLDR 1.13 and HSPL.
Cheers all!
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Do take a look at the build i am using, here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=926507
I would recommend using V1.6, this build is really awesome, it has but a single flaw and that is copying files via usb-cable (which will make the phone reboot and endanger your sd card file structure).
There are workarounds (either using USB Mass Storage in CWM or using an app like Software Data Cable) so this isn´t really that hard to cope with
Other than that i would have to say, this feels like it was meant to run with the HD2, so if that´s what you are looking for
Battery life is great, no loss at all compared to winmo.
Whatevery build you would choose, i personally would go for froyo builds, gingerbread builds (sense builds at least) are a little too much for a stable reliable daily build, for now at least

LaneyEFC said:
Anyone know a good sense rom with decent battery life that will last over 12 hours while at work, or isn't there one out atm ? and also as a2sd onit
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There isn't one out there. The phrase "decent battery life" is totally out of place in a LEO forum and even more out of place in an Android forum. If you want decent battery life, get a BlackBerry.

xs11e said:
There isn't one out there. The phrase "decent battery life" is totally out of place in a LEO forum and even more out of place in an Android forum. If you want decent battery life, get a BlackBerry.
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i dont mean a battery that lasts like 4 days straight i ment *DECENT* the rom i use lasts around 18 hours which is fine for me as i only use it for work and charge over night alls i wanted was a sense rom that lasted 10hrs+, but as i said in the earlier thread my problem as been resolved