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Ok. Please don't tell me to search. I have. If you have found the magic cure, then can you possible and nicely show me there this thread is?
PROBLEM:
No internet access for Laptop on 1.5 hour train trip.
However, TMOBILE XDA phone has good GPRS signal.
REQUIREMENT:
Share GPRS internet connection coming through XDA with laptop.
SOLUTION (?) :
None found. Might test this one : http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cach...aptop-howto.pdf+gprs+laptop+ir&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
Alt Link to above: http://tomt.ath.cx/attachments/gprs-turkcell-laptop-howto.pdf
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I understand boot mode (wallaby) where it can be used as traditional cellular modem. That's limited to speed problems, and I don't wish to pursue that.
I also found a link in Microsoft newsgroup (recaptured in google groups), but I need to track those individuals down:
http://groups.google.com/[email protected]&rnum=1
Thanks, hope we all can figure this out.
With wm2003 4.00.33 German there is the "Wireless Modem" application built in which works with my MDA. I don't know if that application also works with an english ROM. Maybe there is a ROM-Update out there and the wireless modem is included.
Fidl
Thanks. I just checked both PROGS and CONNECTIONS, no such thing.
New to my ENG 4.05.00 is GPRS AUTHENTICATION in the connections/networking seciton, but nothing else.
wize_1 said:
Thanks. I just checked both PROGS and CONNECTIONS, no such thing.
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I know that the wireless modem is NOT included with your 4.00.05 ROM. It was included in the 3.17.03 ENG ROM from O2.
Maybe you give a try to the wmodem.exe i extracted from my german ROM.....
Good Luck!
Fidl
Great!!! I'll try tonight installing that and will let everyone know.
One question, however. From reading other threads (I finally found some), I noticed that the laptop should be running XP.
I guess the question really is, what are the step-by-step instructions to complete the configuration and get the laptop on the internet. I would think that they were:
(1) Getting the phone to have WMODEM [complete]
(2) Powering the phone up, and running WMODEM app [complete]
(3) Powering up the laptop, and then discovering a device [unknown]
(4) Creating a new DUN (dial up networking) connection on the laptop and using the mystery modem device just discovered [unknown]
(5) Configuring SOME NUMBER to dial as the connection parameters [unknown]
(6) Connecting
I would think that the phone would accept the incoming 'request' for it to act as a wireless modem, and initiate a gprs connection, and then do some sort of NAT.
Does ANYONE have ANY more information on how this might work?
Is XP required?
GPRS Settings
You need a Serial Cable or an Irda COM Port available. XP is not required. I do Irda on W2k (it also works with XP)
Check this link for Instructions and the Irda-Driver:
http://www.myxda.com/html/HowToUse/XdaII/How to setup Wireless Modem for IrDA.htm
The important thing is to install a Standard Modem over some COM port and use Advanced Settings for your AccessPoint i.e
AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","web.one.at","",0,0
You then dial "*99#" (without the quotes)
Fidl
I gave up and bought an aircard!
:lol:
Where do we stand on the best solutions?
I have the same problem except I am also interested in getting the XDA to act as a wireless modem for circuit-switched data calls (7Kbps pipe).
I first saw the most pertinent information at http://www.xda-developers.com/modem/ but the page is labeled "superseded". As I understand, as soon as we get ROM 3.16.43 or above, all the "intrusive" trick posted on the page originally is obsolete.
My first question is about the "intrusive" trick there. It sure looks like the trick will get the XDA to act as a wireless modem for your laptop to make circuit-switched data calls (consuming minutes, 7Kbps only). Does it get the laptop to make GPRS connection (45Kbps) as well, assuming I subscribe to T-Mobile's data plan ($20/mo, unlimited data under promotion)?
My second question is, once we get a ROM version that gives a "wireless modem" program, can I make both types of data calls? Sounds like yes for the answer.
If so, great. Let's assume so. T-Mobile US is at ROM 3.14.40 ENG right now. In a matter of a month or two, they are going to post the upgrade for Windows Pocket PC 2003. A tier 2 tech guy told me that it will probably come with a ROM upgrade. I feel that the chances are high that that ROM version provides this "wireless modem" program. If so, isn't it true that the upgrade basically converts our XDA's into a Sierra Wireless AirCard 750, and then some? Or I am off track somewhere?
The tech support told me that the AirCard 750 approach calls for a SIM card for the air card. You would have to either open a new line for a new SIM card, quite costly, or eject the SIM card from your PPC and place it into the air card each time you use it, quite a hassle. Hardware capability wise, XDA is just an AirCard 750, and then some. It's rediculous that it was not made as such to begin with. Maybe it was just a matter of development phases to roll out functionalities gradually and we are getting there?
Hello! I´ve got only one problem left with the xda II
Does anybody know how it ist possible to get the shown data from the XDA2´s IE on the screen of a notebook? I have a wsp flatrate and want to read the text on a bigger screen......... ist that possible? does anybody have experience with this topic?
Re: Hello! I´ve got only one problem left with the xda II
alamor said:
Does anybody know how it ist possible to get the shown data from the XDA2´s IE on the screen of a notebook? I have a wsp flatrate and want to read the text on a bigger screen......... ist that possible? does anybody have experience with this topic?
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Well, there is this remote display application at YORCH.NET
"Remote Display Control for Pocket PC
With the Remote Display Control application, you can display actions on a Pocket PC, including user input, remotely on the display of a desktop or laptop personal computer. This is a great tool for demonstrating the power of the Pocket PC to a large audience. It also allows developers to test their applications for the Pocket PC on a larger screen.
size: 712KB"
I didn't try it yet, it sounds quite interesting for multiple purposes.
Okay, I've searched for several hours so I don't act like a true newbie and ask a dumb question that's been asked a hundred times, but I can't find anything definite on this, so here goes.
I have a new Cingular 8525 and have Cingular's PDA Connect Unlimited data plan. I am in a 3G area. I have an out of the box phone with Windows Mobile 5 with no ROM updates or hacks on it.
I would like to take my laptop in the car and hook my phone to it and have my laptop use the 3G connection that my phone is providing. I know you can setup a modem connection, and I've done that, but it only connects at 115k, which is the fastest setting the modem driver and bluetooth dongle have listed. I would like to be surfing on my laptop at the 3G speeds.
I know there are implications where Cingular may or may not charge me, because I am supposed to possibly have something called the Laptop Connect plan, but lets assume that's not an issue.
Also, whichever way is easiest, I can either use my USB cord to tether my phone and laptop together or use my Bluetooth on my laptop and connect that way.
Anyone have the steps on how to make this work?
Thanks
Did you ever get this working?
I have almost the same situation: a Tom Tom GO 720 device that will talk to the 8525's Handsfree service via Blue Tooth, but says that the phone is not advertising the DUN service.
Got it working
I did two things to make it work.
First, I got Internet Sharing working by using the cabinet called UPRREY-ICS[1].cab that you can find on this forum site. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1564979#24. This will install a link to the Internet Sharing application and show it under Programs.
That made my laptop able to use the GPRS connection. This uses the Bluetooth PAN to tether the laptop and the phone. (but be careful - your plan might not allow large data transfers).
Second, I found two files, also on this forum site, called WM6_DUN.zip (or separately as BT_DUN.cab) and MODEMLINK.zip.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/misc.php?do=showattachments&t=314371
MODEMLINK.zip has a .rgu file in it that I didn't have to mess with .. I just copied the other files to the windows directory and restarted.
Now my TomTom GO 710 finds the handsfree connection, the phonebook/object connection, and the DUN service so it can get on the internet when it needs to.
Thanks to URPREY, The.Drone, and MUN for their previous posts. You rock.
Hi
I have a tomtom gps 720 that I am trying to conntect to a HTC touch diamond, downloaded the software and have placed it into my windows directory etc.. which seems to have helped as it now shows on my tomtom that my phone supports wireless data transfers, the problem I am having now is when putting the setting in the tomtom for the wireless settings my mobile of phone does not appear so I am getting up to 65% through setting it up before I run into a wall....
any further ideas?
I would suggest using the data cable method without bluetooth headaches. Diamond has a ver poor battery, so when ised with USB cable it can stay alive but ultimately your laptop battery is drained
Diamond should have built-in internet connection sharing option. Does the prompt that appears when connecting to PC have that? If not try the HTCtoUSB PopUp cabs taken from Raphel.
Regards,
Carty..
I have no problem connecting the htc diamind or the tomtom go 720 to the PC, I'm just trying to get the wireless data to work so I can send and receive text messages through the TomTom.
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Hi all,
I was interested to know if it is possible to use Voip or Skype over a bluetooth connection.
I currently sync via bluetooth using my HTC Himalaya, which allows me to access the internet at my home.
I tried using Skype Mobile on my phone but it only seems to allow 3G or WiFi connections.
I don't want to use my phone as the headset, connecting through my PC's Skype, I want it to work standalone ie Be able to connect to the Skype Network/VOIP network using software on my phone, connecting to the activesync bluetooth connection.
Any ideas?
it's transparent to most programs which connection they use as long as it's fast enough
and my tests and tests i've sene indicate that bluetooth is not fast enough to do talk with skype
but you can chat but then so you can using gprs
Even BT 1.x should be able to provide enough bandwidth for Skype or VoIP applications as in the worst case you will need 64 kbps up- and downstream (using G.711 like codecs). The problem for VoIP / SIP is probably that it won't run over the ActiveSync connection... which is very limited anyway. There might not be a way to do what you want, but it would be interesting if someone could correct me.
Bluetooth Activesync Works
Well I just configured and managed to use Skype over Bluetooth Activesync....and it worked OK.
The sound was identical to that which I get on my SDIO 802.11G Wifi Card, so I am not complaining.
I was unable to "chat" with someone though, as in typing (I could type but they couldn't see it, possibly because I was logged in elsewhere), but I was able to use the Echo call function, and it worked.
So. It works. But more testing is needed.
It saves me having to carry around and purchase extra wifi equipment when I can do the same over Bluetooth...
Do many people know how to do this? Do you think I should make a post in the development and hacking or general forum?
works great
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596682 . d
Two phones--HP IPAQ 910 (runs WM 6.1 Professional), and a Sony Ericsson TM506 (dumbphone). I could use either, with my T-Mobile (USA) SIM card. However, although the IPAQ has 3G, that will not work on T-Mobile, which uses a different band for 3G.
The TM506 works very well as a 3G modem for my laptops, giving me a fast Internet connection on the go, when there is no available wi-fi connection. It also works well as a phone. Of course, it has much elss PDA capability than the IPAQ, much worse keyboard for text input (just a normal phone keypad), and much smaller screen.
Therefore, two phones, one SIM card, the following looks like the best solution to me--leave the SIM in the TM506, and use that as a phone. (If the battery runs out, the IPAQ could be used as a backup phone.) Also use the TM506 as a 3G modem, both for laptops, and for the IPAQ.
Use the IPAQ as a PDA, and as a small internet device, connected via wi-fi or tethered through the Tm506.
The problem is--although tethering from a laptop to the TM506 works fine, I cannot get the IPAQ to tether through it. I set up the BT pairing, I choose the DUN service, I successfully set up a connection in the Connections tab, routed through the BT modem (TM506), using the same settings as on the laptop. Everything looks like it is set up correctly.
However, when I try to connect through that connection, I always get an error message very quickly, about "cannot connect for unknown reason".
I've tried so many things, over days now, and cannot get it to work. I've scoured the Internet looking for info, and found nothing that works for me.
Does anyone here have any suggestions? Has anyone here tethered with an IPAQ 910, or at least a WM 6.1 PPC, through a different phone? (I do not mean using the IPAQ or other WM 6.1 phone as a modem for a laptop--but the opposite--connecting to the Internet on the IPAQ 910 or other WM 6.1 phone, by BT tethering through another phone.)
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance!
I tried today to tether an old PPC I have, the T-Mobile (USA) MDA (HTC Wizard, stock T-Mo AKU2 ROM, WM5) through the TM506, and it worked!
So, the problem is definitely not with the TM506, which works for tethering a laptop, and for tethering the Wizard.
The question is then--why won't the IPAQ 910 tether through it? It has all the right settings to tether (DUN) through another device, but it doesn't work. I'm wondering if I have a defective unit, or whether it is a problem with the whole model, or even of WM 6.1.
Has anyone here successfully tethered a WM 6.1 phone through another phone? Has anyone done so using an IPAQ 910?
Anyone here curious to try, and see if it works with your phone?
Could it be a problem with the Bluetooth stack? Do all WM 6.1 phones now have the MS stack, or do some have Widcomm? If there is a problem with outgoing BT DUN on the MS stack, is it possible to install the Widcomm stack? Or would that create other BT problems?
Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.
I looked at the BT specs, from systeminfo, on the 910. This doesn't mean anything to me, but I'll post it here, in case it means something to someone:
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Firmware Version A05U
Hardware Revision: BlueCore4ROM
Driver Version: BCHS_WINCE_MOBILE_4_7_3
Software Version: BCHS_WINCE_MOBILE_4_7_3
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Does that mean anything to anyone reading?
Interesting--no mention of Microsoft or Broadcomm-Widcomm in any of that. (Unless the BC at the beginning of driver and software version stands for Broadcom).
I still have not found anything in Internet searches. Although I am not very knowledgeable about the WM registry, I decided to look a little there, and see if I find anything.
I see a registry key, that to me seems like it would govern outbound BT DUN from the phone:
HKLM\EXTModems\bluetooth_dun\
(Being that this is under external modems, I assume this key has to do with the outbound DUN I was discussing-dialing with the PPC to the internet, through another phone.)
Underneath it there are three values:
string value: FriendlyName=Bluetooth
string value: port=COM5
Dword: DeviceType=7
I am wondering whether--perhaps altering the second or third value, could get this to work?
Anyone know what the third one means-DeviceType=7?
With the second value, could it perhaps not be working, in that that is the incorrect com port? How would I find out what is the correct com port for this?
IN setting up the pairing between the IPAQ 910 and the SE TM506 (initiated from the IPAQ), in the choice of services, besides the dial-up-networking service, I believe there was the serial port profile, where one could set up a particular com port. There was no mention of that being necessary for setting up DUN, so I just chose the latter. However, should I re-pair, and also choose the serial port profile, and set up a com5?
Any other ideas?
Thank you.
Edit--I forgot to mention, under ExtModems, besides the key bluetooth_dun, there is also a key called bluetooth_dcn. What in the world is bt dcn?
I came upon a post on Modaco from 2005, regarding tethering a WM phone through another phone, at:
http://www.modaco.com/content/blue-angel-blueangel-modaco-com/202751/bluetooth-dun-profile/
I think much of it is not applicable to my situation, as two very different phones, different version of WM, etc.
However, I found the following quote from it interesting:
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"BTW - You can't go into Settings...Connections to set up your connection. For some reason it doesn't work. Don't ask me why. I have to use the Bluetooth Manager to connect."
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Well, as described, it also doesn't work for me to connect, through Settings-Connections-Connections. However, on my IPAQ 910, WM6.1, there is no other way to connect.
The author of the post quoted above says he can connect through "Bluetooth Manager". Well, I have no applet, either in Programs or Settings, called "Bluetooth Manager". There are of course Bluetooth settings, under Settings, Connections-Bluetooth. One can set up the pairing there, but there is no way to initiate a connection from there. One has to go into the Connections-Settings-Settings screen to set up the actual connection, and try to connect. I still cannot get that to work. (And now I have tried adding a BT serial port with the same com number as the registry key, as described above. Still did not work.)
I'm wondering--if there is some way I could get the app "Bluetooth Manager", would it install and work on my IPAQ 910? Where could I get that applet? Or is that app for the other BT stack?
3G modem with TM506
No answers about connecting the ipaq with the tm506 but I was curious as to how you used the tm506 as a 3G modem? I can connect with my laptop using the GPRS network but not the 3G. I downloaded the PC software from ericsson website and everything loaded and functions smoothly but it will not connect to the 3G network. The software setup a modem connection that dials *99***5# and a long unknown password entry. Any idea of how to get this to work?
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No answers about connecting the ipaq with the tm506 but I was curious as to how you used the tm506 as a 3G modem? I can connect with my laptop using the GPRS network but not the 3G. I downloaded the PC software from ericsson website and everything loaded and functions smoothly but it will not connect to the 3G network. The software setup a modem connection that dials *99***5# and a long unknown password entry. Any idea of how to get this to work?
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Sorry for the late reply, but I have not looked here for a while.
I found it to work also using that SE software. That sets up the connections on the computer, so they can also be used without the SE software running.
Nothing special necessary to use 3G. But of course, T-Mo 3G is not spread throughout the country. Of course if you do not get a T-Mo 3g signal where you live, you cannot tether 3G. Do you get a 3G signal with the phone by itself?
I have had a kaiser for about a year. I just got a raphael. I am very impressed by the raph - everything about it is wonderful (well, 'cept the gps). I would like to use both.
Well, AT&T does not support multiple sims per plan - otherwise I could drop one in each phone, and have both to use.
So, here's what I see (in all cases with the SIM card on the raph):
1. set up wifi network sharing, connect to it via the kaiser. Still doesn't offer all functionality, but does let me use the internet.
2. Bluetooth pan internet sharing between the two. I'm not exactly sure how to set this up, though... it always gives me errors.
3. The ideal situation: SAP. If I could set it up so that the kaiser can think it has a SIM card, I would get all functionality on both sides, right? Is this possible? Would it be missing anything?
Some other thoughts:
1. is it possible to get just the GPS shared across bluetooth (use raph with kaiser's gps)? I'll figure out how to fix raph's gps eventually, but I see this as an interesting choice anyway.
2. what other profiles can I get working between the two?
I'd really like to see all of these things done in windows mobile - seeing as I only have one sd card for the moment, and it's for the raph. As soon as I fix that, I'll be more worried about leaving kaiser in android/other linuxes. Any ideas?
ATT's GPS runs via the data plan on my phone, so I tried what you're wanting to do and I had to pair the devices mapping the GPS on one of the unreserved COM ports, and on pairing enabled the outgoing COM, if you use Active Sync you should be familiar with the idea of mapping services through COM ports, on the 2nd phone that had the working data plan it would only show the shared gps service, but it wasn't called that port keys are named in the registry, and differ from phone to phone. So this isn't a pretty setup. I only got it working in google maps since you can define the gps settings manually. I would give specifics but I'm trying it with my old ppc where gps is on port 3, but has virtual serial ports mapped to 6 and 7. Again, get a good registry viewer/editor, port scanner etc so you can find out whats running where. I needed PAN to be enabled on the ppc for gps to work. I don't know if it's reporting exact locations or estimations etc. hopefully someone smarter than me can tell you.
You can get voice to work sort of, you can use handsets as headsets remotely just like any other bt headset, but thats all kind of pointless.