Hi all,
I was interested to know if it is possible to use Voip or Skype over a bluetooth connection.
I currently sync via bluetooth using my HTC Himalaya, which allows me to access the internet at my home.
I tried using Skype Mobile on my phone but it only seems to allow 3G or WiFi connections.
I don't want to use my phone as the headset, connecting through my PC's Skype, I want it to work standalone ie Be able to connect to the Skype Network/VOIP network using software on my phone, connecting to the activesync bluetooth connection.
Any ideas?
it's transparent to most programs which connection they use as long as it's fast enough
and my tests and tests i've sene indicate that bluetooth is not fast enough to do talk with skype
but you can chat but then so you can using gprs
Even BT 1.x should be able to provide enough bandwidth for Skype or VoIP applications as in the worst case you will need 64 kbps up- and downstream (using G.711 like codecs). The problem for VoIP / SIP is probably that it won't run over the ActiveSync connection... which is very limited anyway. There might not be a way to do what you want, but it would be interesting if someone could correct me.
Bluetooth Activesync Works
Well I just configured and managed to use Skype over Bluetooth Activesync....and it worked OK.
The sound was identical to that which I get on my SDIO 802.11G Wifi Card, so I am not complaining.
I was unable to "chat" with someone though, as in typing (I could type but they couldn't see it, possibly because I was logged in elsewhere), but I was able to use the Echo call function, and it worked.
So. It works. But more testing is needed.
It saves me having to carry around and purchase extra wifi equipment when I can do the same over Bluetooth...
Do many people know how to do this? Do you think I should make a post in the development and hacking or general forum?
works great
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596682 . d
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Just for once, I have a cheap SD Wifi card that works well in my MDA Compact! I have no connection with Ebuyer, just pointing out a cheap card for the Magician, other cards are more than twice the price! -Joe
http://www.ebuyer.com
Quickfind code: 89714
reviewed and discussed elsewhere by me!
watch out for driver problems. it casused my activesync to screw up once.
V
SD Card
There's so much posting here, I missed your original post.
Just to report, I've had no problems so far surfing, Activesync and using the utility.
Joe
joe2316 said:
Just for once, I have a cheap SD Wifi card that works well in my MDA Compact! I have no connection with Ebuyer, just pointing out a cheap card for the Magician, other cards are more than twice the price! -Joe
http://www.ebuyer.com
Quickfind code: 89714
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Cheers Joe,
Been thinking of one of these for a while for when travelling and that price its a must. Already on it way thanks and thanks also for the instructions and suggestions,
M.
yep.. ordered one for my to-be phone!
waiting for both my s110 and the el-cheapo sd wifi to arrive next week =)
started reading for software reviews aswell...
what drivers do you recommend using with this sd wifi card?
Drivers
Hi,
This was against the first reviewer on eBuyer for the WIFI card, think it will help. Now to look into this extended ROM hack!!!!
M.
The phone runs \"Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition\", and the card worked straight out of the box once drivers installed. However, \"worked\" is a difficult issue. The card did exactly what it\'s supposed to. BTW - the drivers include a tool to scan the local area for wifi, so it\'ll be useful for finding open connections in coffee shops etc, no other tools needed. Shows signal strength, WEP, data rate etc, most of what you\'ll need.
As I said, the card does what it says on the tin, found an open network and connected to it no problem. However, setting up the Pocket PC to use the connections can be tricky, so have a look at this site http://wifi.aximsite.com/wifi_net.html
Basically, you have to use your \"Work\" connection, and tell the PPC not to use proxies. After some trial and eror, got it all working perfectly, although I blame Microsoft, not the card for the difficulties in figuring out the Networking Settings.
Next ActiveSync: follow this page
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/bowman_september24.mspx
Basically, in your \"network card\" settings, choose wlan adaptor, and then \"Name servers\" tab, and in WINS enter the IP address of your host (desktop) computer that you want to sync with. Ensure you have ethernet syncing enabled on the desktop, and then open activesync on the PPC to sync through the air
If you have a Magician, I recommend doing the \"extended ROM\" hack to give yourself 27mb of \"storage\", and stick all your browser goodies in there so that you can remove your storage card and still have access to programs installed.
Cheap Wifi Card mini-review
Just to comment on latts post, I honestly do nothing but leave defaults on for browsing (connect using Work Network being the only change). I have never had to alter anything for network Activesync in terms of nameservers etc, just ticked the box on the A/sync page.
My mini review:
Activesync over Wifi is much more reliable than Bluetooth, 100% reliability so far
Wifi connection attempts to take place as soon as the card is inserted, I have to manually choose my home network, but the WiFi utility is easy to use and accesses my protected network (SSID hidden, MAC access control & WEP encryption) without any dramas.
The card is quite small, jutting out about 10mm, which isn't as bad as it sounds (remembering my Palmone card!). Power drain is not nearly as bad as I expected either.
Overall, a bargain card that *just works*. Recommended.
Joe
latts - that's my review
I also use blutetooth network - cheaper at £6, but not as fast. But works well enough. But wifi browsing is great on the street!
V
Good one Vijay, hope you didn't think I was taking your glory. :wink:
It works
Hi,
Received the WIFI card last week but just picked it up this weekend. Very small (only about 5mm sticking out of the top) and very easy to use.
I installed the driver, the utility (as per instructions) stuck the card in and it worked, brilliant.
Going to try Skype out tonight but mail etc. works a dream.
If only everything in life was as easy,
Thx,
M.
Internet as apposed to Work connection
Hi,
Just one question for you lads, you mention that when you use the WIFI card you should connect through the WORK connection, why is that?
It seems when I connected mine I either - or it automatically - selected the Internet connection rather than the work connection. It works fine for downloading mail and internet however I noticed a few voice problems on Skype which I am putting down at the moment to Skype version 1.1.066
Anyway, just wondered why Work. I have two connections set-up on my QTEK:
1. Internet - for mail and surfing
2. Work - For MMS
If I use the internet connection - as I am - for WIFI then While the card is in I am still free to use the MMS connection which I don't suppose I could use via WIFI, correct?
Any help or answers to these questions would be appreciated.
Thanks,
M. :lol:
Any other place I can get this card for a reasonable price that does ship internationally?
I need it shipped to Holland.
Re: Internet as apposed to Work connection
Hi Latts,
I've just read your posting about your wifi card and using skype with it. I've got a SPV M500 and am also thinking of getting this Wifi card. The main reason for this is that the Bluetooth just doesn't have the bandwidth for Skype or the open standatd VoIP SIP. I've been waiting for a positive Skype of Softphone SIP test before buying this wifi card though. I was wondering what skype problems you where experiencing. I can then compare them to my USB and bluetooth Skype experiences (well i'll have to try it again to compare) and see if its a software bug or a bandwidth issue.
In case you need it, i'm sending you the X-Tem softphone (SIP). I case you've not heard of SIP, its an open standard VoIP but has higher compression so i hear, so may be better for our phone / PDAs.
Thanks again for your posting. Very useful
Neil
latts said:
Hi,
Just one question for you lads, you mention that when you use the WIFI card you should connect through the WORK connection, why is that?
It seems when I connected mine I either - or it automatically - selected the Internet connection rather than the work connection. It works fine for downloading mail and internet however I noticed a few voice problems on Skype which I am putting down at the moment to Skype version 1.1.066
Anyway, just wondered why Work. I have two connections set-up on my QTEK:
1. Internet - for mail and surfing
2. Work - For MMS
If I use the internet connection - as I am - for WIFI then While the card is in I am still free to use the MMS connection which I don't suppose I could use via WIFI, correct?
Any help or answers to these questions would be appreciated.
Thanks,
M. :lol:
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is there any way on my mda i can use the wifi to browse the web while i talk on the phone via bluetooth or even wired? i heard theres a reg tweak but i cant locate it after many searches. please give me sum knowledge!
Not possible at the same time with GPRS/EDGE because your phone is class B. No class A phones are sold retail yet.
Yoıu have to suspend the call and browse the web or vice versa..
That's funny I can surf (either using WiFi or GPRS) and speak at the same time!
It was one of the main reasons I chose the qteck 9000.
OK! I edit..
You can not use GPRS/EDGE at the same time with phone call. One must be suspended. You CAN use wired or Wifi while talking on the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=54738&highlight=
if you use UMTS connection and your provider is supporting it, you CAN surf while talking on the phone.
I confirm, Orange France does allow simultaneous 3G web + voice access I did the tests:
Was on a call switched to email picked up new mail, switched to PIE surfed some news sites as I kept on chating on the phone!
I thought the same was true with GPRS but I never did the above test over a GPRS connection...
It also works for T-Mobile in the UK, I use my MDA PRO as a 3G modem plugged into my PC via USB all day long, and can have phonecalls at exactly the same time as using the internet.
Neither one has to be "suspended", they both work at the same time (although internet use is a bit slower when you're on a call, because they both use the same bandwidth).
I haven't tested it with GPRS, that might well be different as 3G has a lot more bandwidth available than GPRS/CSD...
A few questions for sl9:
1. do you use the included Wmodem program to do this or did you configure something on your PC manually?
2. could you do the same with a BT connection from the WM5 machine to your PC (instead of using the USB cable)?
3. would using BT lower the available surfing speed on the PC?
4. what sort of data plan do you have to be able to "be connected all day"?
Thanks!
edeplano said:
A few questions for sl9:
1. do you use the included Wmodem program to do this or did you configure something on your PC manually?
2. could you do the same with a BT connection from the WM5 machine to your PC (instead of using the USB cable)?
3. would using BT lower the available surfing speed on the PC?
4. what sort of data plan do you have to be able to "be connected all day"?
Thanks!
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1. Yes, I am using WModem with the USB cable so the MDA PRO acts like a 3G broadband modem to my PC.
2. There should be no reason why you can't do the same with Bluetooth. But bear in mind Bluetooth is SLOWER than 3G (it's about as fast as GPRS), so if you want to use the full speed of 3G, you need to use the USB connection. IR (Infra-Red) is much faster than Bluetooth and faster than 3G, but slower than USB.
3. Yes - see no. 2 above for the reason why.
4. I am on T-Mobile UK's Web & Walk Professional, "unlimited" 3G and GPRS data use (they say 2GB max usage per month, but I never get near that). So I stay connected to my home PC from my office PC all day long with remote desktop :mrgreen: Surprsingly, this doesn't use too much bandwidth - this month I used about 600MB which is far below the 2GB they allow.
T-Mobile in the UK have the best data tarriff by FAR, I have this bolted onto a superb base voice tarriff too which is Flext 20 - a brilliant companion to WnW PRO in fact probably the best combo tarriff there is on any network, in any country :mrgreen:
Note: You can also use activesync at the same time as 3G WModem and making a voice call(!).
I have tested connecting to my PC with Activesync over bluetooth, connecting my PC to the internet using WModem over 3G with USB, and then making a voice call on my phone. It all worked! I could surf the net whilst talking on the phone and ActiveSync was busy synchronizing my calendar and e-mails at the same time. This is truly an amazing device, I love my MDA PRO :mrgreen:
Thanks for the quick reply!
OK guys.. the first post was about MDA, you are talking about 3G and MDA :?
I only mention about GPRS/EDGE not 3G/wired or smth. else..
I think we are not on the same thing. Forgive me if I am wrong..
do i have to change any settins to get wifi/phone call to work? because i cant seem to get it to go yet
For wi-fi + phone I o not think there is any settings that need changing.
Are you sure you have enough battery? If the level is low it could be possible there is not enough power to handle both radios...
Also are you sure both wi-fi and telephone work correctly if used by themselves?
Finally do you have an MDA IV (ie HTC Universal) because otherwise your in the wrong forum from the start!
i`m sure the wifi and the phone work themselves. and i have a tmobile mda tthe us version... i`lll try again and let u guys know what happens
Hey there,
I've been searching the net and this forum for a long while but did not find anything close. Here's what I have in mind:
I have a mobile plan that allows free calls within the provider network. I have a couple of phones, normal mobiles, but also three HTC devices.
I would like to place one HTC device (WM5 or WM6 with Wifi or via ActiveSync) at home, where it will always stay on and is connected to the Wifi or the internet via ActiveSync. This device contains a SIM CARD and therefore is callable.
Now, when I am out, I'd like to use my other phone and basically dial-up the phone at home for a data connection (DUN). This part should be easy.
The tough part is: How do I get my phone at home to pick up the call, treat it as a data call and route the data through the Wifi or ActiveSync to provide internet over this call/connection.
Anyone done anything like that? Ideas?
Is this wat ur looking for ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=251957
second page
well, thanks for the hint. This would only solve part of the problem, but I am more worried about the modem part.
Now, I've changed the scenario a bit and I think this should be doable, yet I fail to get Vista to setup a incoming connection via Bluetooth modem...
New scenario:
Vista Internet PC connected to HTC WM5 via Bluetooth, Bluetooth Modem detected and useable on PC.
In Win98, I think, I was able to set up an incoming modem connection, so it would pick up automatically and take the call as a data call and route it over the local network. This would be perfect!
In Vista, I don't manage to find this incoming connection option anymore.
Yet, this solution would need a running PC all the time, not perfect. So if anyone has an idea on how to do this solely on a HTC WM5 device, this would be brilliant!
Hello,
I've been searching the whole forum, but I cannot believe nobody is having the same problem (or idea) as I have:
BA is still great, but nowadays it's lack of 3G internet speed capability (no HSDPA or HSUPA, only gprs.. is becoming more and more quite a problem...
So I thought, wait, I'll connect my BA via bluetooth to another cell phone with 3G, HSDPA, etc. capabilities and basically connect to the internet through that phone, and have high speed internet!
However, I can't figure it out.
First I tried through DUN, but it turns out MS removed DUN from wm 6.1, and from what I can see, Internet sharing is not intended for this task. Or is it?
Can we have high speed internet on BA?
Thanks,
pooksee1802
I couldn't get it to work - but I have just got a 3G USB dongle which I hope will (with a connector cable) provide the old BA with 3G access..
I'm hoping I can configure the BA as if it were going through the USB activesync to the PC and so to the internet.
Anyone tried this yet??
hmm,
judging by the thread's view count it seems the issue is interesting, but unfortunately no answers...
c'mon guys, nobody interested in having high speed internet access on our BA's?
thank you!
in theory the scheme is simple but useless
you need laptop, 3g dongle connected to it and then BA connected to the laptop via cable (bluetooth is slow)and activesync, this is the only working way. This scheme is useless because if you carry the laptop why will do you need the BA?
there is no usb host on the BA so you can not connect the 3g usb dongle to it in any way, thats why you need the laptop
I am using BA with phone as Bluetooth modem towards HSPA network.
Actually, the initial purpose was to share one SIM card between phone and BA, which is more or less permanently installed in my car.
So far, the experience is good. I have 2Mbit HSDPA connection from Nokia E71 to my operator. Bluetooth link has a theoretical maximum speed of 1Mbit/s. In reality this is even slower, but way higher than you can get from EDGE Class 10.
The only problem is that THERE IS NO ROMs released lately, which support Bluetooth dialup. That's it.
ROMs I could get to work with phone as Bluetooth modem are WM5 ROMS and WM6 - "BA ROM CE OS 5.2.19199 (Build 19199.1.0.0 PV DVH) 16MB PP (04)" (using it now).
All later builds do not even try to connect to BT DUN on phone and immediately show "Unable to dial *99#" prompt. No idea what they did to cripple BT DUN in WM 6.1 on BA.
the old dialup was dumped in all later ba rom builds but if it is required so much i can add it in a later build of my roms
Well, I would very appreciate it, really.
Stpark - that's exactly what I was trying to do!
Regarding BA's bluetooth speed, I was aware that it's bt is only ver. 1.1, that is quite slow, but I assumed it would nonetheless still be faster than ordinary gprs. Thanks again for the confirmation.
Stpark, by the way, searching for the "missing bluetooth DUN" I came across a WM developers blog, (http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2007/04/17/why-did-we-remove-bluetooth-dun.aspx) who said that actually they didn't remove it from the ROMs completely, they just put it as an option, but due to user's demand they will return it to the standard package in WM 6.5.
Xplode, thank you for all the roms so far, and I would also appreciate very very much a rom with the DUN included, and I think many of us would as well... Thank you...
To be exactly precise on DUN... There is DUN and there is another DUN.
There is model where your BA acts as DUN host (i.e. you dial from PC using your handheld as modem).
And there is model where your BA acts as DUN client (i.e. you dial from BA using you whetever mobile phone as modem).
So far we are talking about second model, whereas Microsoft is dropping DUN for first. It means that BA as modem role is being replaced by BT PAN. I am not aware about Microsoft being dropped DUN client role in Windows Mobile.
It seem to be just an issue with composition of latest BA ROMs.
That's right, we need the "second" option, that is when the BA acts as a client connecting to a host mobile phone with 3g internet connection.
Be it as it may, because I don't know if MS did drop DUN altogether, or just the first, host mode operation, we need the second one. I'd say badly.
Now I'm hoping for a ROM with DUN in it... (xplode..xplode..
ps. I'm writing this on my BA connected to the net through gprs, speed: 5 kb/s, just like dialup, happytime...
Well i am working on 20931 rom and may publish it these days, but i still have some issues with it when i solve them i will publish it
Well i am working on 20931 rom and may publish it these days, but i still have some issues with it (due to proper translation from chinese) when i solve them i will publish it
Hi All,
I hope some one can shed some light on this.
I am using fring to connect to my SIP provider - no problems... except.... when I power off the screen the wifi connection is droped. Bad if someone is trying to call.
Is there anyway to keep the wifi connected whilst the screen is off?? All i want is for the wifi to stay connected just like The Phone Network Data connections Do....
Is this possible?
What SIP clients can you guys recommend? Isnt SIP integrated in to WM6.1??? cant find it anywhere.... and the threads about it seem to have gone cold..... any clues?
(touch HD with Telstra Stock ROM - AUS)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-446135.html
HD Tweak Win!
HD Tweak allowed the wireless to stay connected. Nice!
http://montecristoff.webs.com/hdtweak.htm
Now, SIP clients Anyone??? Been using Fring - is there anything better or integrated that is a bit cleaner?
basically all i want is to be able to recieve SIP calls whenever connected to the provider, but select how outbond calls are handled
Native SIP stack on WM6.x is not very user friendly and it lacks some major features. No echo cancellation, no earpiece support, no NAT traversal, etc...
Try AgePhone2 mobile (commercial) or PortSIP (free). Also check out this forum, there was plenty of VoIP discussion in the past 2 years or so.
sip client
the best sip client integrated with WM 6 is this. have been using it for long with sip calls
WM6VoIP.CAB & SipConfigTool_2_0_1.CAB
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