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GPRS 'G' no longer there after O2 Update...

Mmmm - just noticed this one...
My little square G for GPRS symbol no longer STAYS on the status bar at the top.
It appears as I soft reset, and find a network, but then disapears.
If I click my signal bar gauge however, the G symbol is shown there.
I know they have changed the Signal Status notification box to list Airline mode now, instead of Wireless off...
So is this another new change, or are the rest of you getting the G to stay on?
I ask, because I actually use my XDA2 on Orange UK, unlocked, but before the Upgrade last night, I still got a solid G stay on with Orange.
Thoughts or comments anyone?

I've actually never seen the "G" stay on the bar with mine, and have been thru several different roms, Qtek, I-mate, T-mobile.
It does exactly as you describe. Personally I don't need to see it all the time.

me too, ever since it never stayed on just popped up to indicate that you've connected to gprs but goes away after a while (started with a 1.52.00 rom)

Same goes for me. I always see the G appear at a start up but never have had the G remain on the screen for more than a few seconds.
On my unit after the Aisa update I can confirm the change in wording to "Turn on flight mode" from "Turn wireless off"
Ed

Aha...
I guess I have already sussed it, but can you guys confirm what type of devices and ROM's you had/have.
As i am certain as can be that my XDA2 USED to keep the G symbol on permanent, just like my SmartPhone Orange E200 does now.
But now, after the new UK ROM update, it doesn't stay on.
Now that I know this is by design, and that the initial appearance is to assure you you have a GPRS signal, and that you can check it any time by tapping on the signla bar, I have to say i much prefer this new method of informing you.
I just wanted to check it wasn't an error first - but I can happily send and receive MMS so it must be working fine.

my xda1 with 2002(org rom) dident keep the icon
my xda1 with 2003 dident keep the icon
and my
xda2 (qtek2020)(org rom) dont keep the icon

Xda II, Phone Edition or Moble Network Problem ??

I've had this problem for some time now and I have no words to describe this symptom ... I know I'm not alone as I know a few other people have the same problem:
The signal bar on Xda II shows ok, green LED still flashes like normal, even my Phone Dashboard showed that I'm connected to my mobile operator with signal strength >90% ... Nothing is suspicious until you start making calls, everything stays at "Dialing ..." and there will be no dialing tone !!! Make another call, same ...
Then you'll use the landline to call yourself on the mobile, it goes to the voice message ... All those time, you were actually not connected to the mobile network! When you realise this, the only remedy is to turn on and off Wireless / Flight Mode.
Now, have you had similar experience ?
I think, somehow the mobile network lost you, and Xda II didn't even notice it therefore did not bother to reconnect as it thought it was still connected. Is this it ? Or anyone has any other theory or solution to this irritating problem ~ which I genuinely have no idea who to blame ?

i think i know what the problem is
:idea: try to download and install this software,
http://www.gb-soft.cz/xdaii/product_gprs_tweak_en.htm
and in "gprs settings", disable "gprs always online", and set it to "search gprs on start gprs connection".
that way, you will be connected to your operator as simple gsm phone, not a gprs one.
the mobility managment in this status (imsi attached, instead of combined attached) is more simple to the network, and you won't lose service.
Hope it will solve your problem,
please update...
Tomer

thanks i have downloaded it and installed, and set the "GPRS always on" to false, but the other one was default ticked ("Search GPRS on start GPRS conn").
i will start my observation today and see if the problem reproduce itself.

Chris
did this solve it for you?

Coming into the 8th day with this Tweak installed, with GPRS set to search on GPRS start (not radio start). So far, the network problem has not occured. I would like to give it another 2 to 3 weeks before announcing the problem solved.
However, just one little note, after installing the Tweak ... a day or two I noticed that the BT Icon no longer shows on the main screen task bar even after numerous soft reset. Not sure what causes it.

U icon instead of E

Ok simple and possible stupid question...
All yesterday my phone was displaying the E icon next to my antenna showing that there was the possiblity of connecting to the Edge network... Now I happen to work in a area where 3G is not supported but I live in one where its spotty.
I went home last night and while fooling with the phone I noticed the U icon instead of the E... Note I'm NOT using the MEdia connection either, I know this is just simply stating that 3G is currenty avilable where I am.
Now I'm back at work today and the U icon is still there, so I got to test it and when I connect it connects with a mini E above the antenna bars.... So why does my major network icon never change showing me whats avilable?
I installed the HTC Kaiser Dialer + 3G-Batt Icons for my vp3G rom, so I dont know if maybe thats causing it?
I just signed up for media maxx today so I'll test my media connection when I get home to see if it shows up with a 3G...

It doesn't show you what's available. It shows you how you connected, if you are connected.

Um, no it shows whats avilable because this is showing up when my phone is not connected to the MEdia Net service.
Right from the manual.
The LARGE U an E icons are the ones I'm talking about...
Either way I removed the HTC Kaiser Dialer + 3G-Batt Icons program, and it went back to a E icon
so I think it had something to do with that.

The manual is wrong. I am in a 3.5G area, and my connection icon routinely changes from E to U, even while using it.
You're trying to solve something that is not only not solvable, but is also not a big deal anyway.

GPRS / EDGE Icon

Hello,
Does someone noticed about gprs or edge icon in htc wizard.
When the edge icon is disabled ( i.e In default settings ). It shows G Icon at the top of screen, that is normal. BUT when we press the power button at the top of the device and press it again, The device wakes-up. But the G icon changes to E icon and resets after softreset ( i.e G icon )
Points:
1. G icon changes to E icon when we wakeup the device!
2. Only After softreset it goes to normal. i.e G icon but same probem after wakeup!
I tried all the roms in this site but same problem. Also changed the radio rom.
Please someone check this in your phone
Many Thanks
Srikanth.K

The GPRS / EDGE Icon 'E' or 'G' changes according to the service available in the area of use.If the Edge sevice is available in some area,it'll automatically change to 'E',otherwise,it'll remain 'G' as default.

zabardast_1 said:
The GPRS / EDGE Icon 'E' or 'G' changes according to the service available in the area of use.If the Edge sevice is available in some area,it'll automatically change to 'E',otherwise,it'll remain 'G' as default.
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Hello,
Ok, but why the icon should change only after I wakeup the device.
Another thing I noticed that:
When I connect to internet via GPRS but it shows as connected to EDGE in brackets when I click on that E icon. I do not have any EDGE connections only GPRS!
Thanks for reply
Srikanth.K

GPRS icon not visable after wakeup
Hello.
No reply
Just uploaded some screenshots...
After I start/boot my htc wizard it will be like G icon in top of the bar ( i.e screenshot_1 )
After I press power button the device will go to sleep mode and again I press the some button ( i.e power ) the device will wakeup. but the G icon will be conveted to E icon ( i.e screenshot_2 ) that's the problem.
Another thing I noticed that:
I connected to internet ( i.e GPRS ) before going to sleep mode and I clicked on that G icon and it showed as "connected to GPRS). But when it goes to sleep mode and when I waked it and the icon has changed to E icon. And again I clicked on that E icon and it showed "connected to EDGE" instead of showing GPRS.
I have disabled the "EnableDifferGprsEdgeIcon" setting in registry. Plz you also disable this before you test the my problem.
Plz anyone check it and tell me.
Many thanks
Srikanth.K

GPRS/EDGE is the same thing. gprs is a slower network than edge. it still comes from the same provider. If you notice, in a city you will have EDGE almost always, while in some parts of the country you only have GPRS because they have no need to update towers.
as far as the wizard is concerned I do not believe it is capable of 3G so it will only get EDGE/GPRS.
I tried to use a sim card from ATT but it did not get 3G speeds. My friends phone is also not 3G capable even though it came from ATT.
I'm not sure what your concern is. if you have E vs G it means there is a better network around, but it still comes from the same carrier.

Gprs / Edge
Thanks...
By-the-way. I edited the operator name and given it as cingular. But the my default operator is cellone.
My sim is of BSNL not the at&t.
My problem is that why the icon should change when the mobile goes to sleep mode. After wakeup the icon will be changed ( i.e E icon ) and also my connection details will be changed ( i.e GPRS to EDGE ). This problem only occors upon going to sleep mode and after wakeup.
I tryed all the wm6 and wm6.1 roms in this webiste, all have same thing. But this problem will not occors in WM5. The icon will be G and will not change upon Sleep mode/wakeup.
This problem is only with WM6 & WM6.1.
Many thanks
Srikanth

thats weird.
I sometimes get pissed when im otside of a city and it turns to G. then I feel like I'm in the boonies.
I never saw the issue you are describing. maybe it is your network.

Gprs / Edge
Hi,
OK. I will try with other networks/sim cards.
Many Thanks.
Srikanth.K

Gprs / Edge
Hello,
OK DONE.
Now the E icon is stable/visible after startup and also at wakeup.
What I did is:
1. Enabled the "EnableDifferGprsEdgeIcon" setting in registry.
2. I Downloaded and installed the GB-SOFT GPRS Tweak app.
3. Opened the software and there was 6 tweaks in page.
4. I ticked on the "Search GPRS [G-E-3G] on start radio" box & rebooted.
5. Now: At the startup of my device, the G icon will not display and only the E icon.
6. And also will not change after wakeup ( Thats stable ).
Ok, now the E icon is stable. So I edited the "EnableDifferGprsEdgeIcon" and given it as 0 to disable it ( i.e To show G icon instead of showing E. )
But without luck. The problem rised again.
I think that, this problem is due to RADIO ROM.
I Tested some of other radio roms also but had no luck. Today morning I also flashed to WM5 offical rom but there is now problem with it ( i.e GPRS Icon is stable ).
Do you know which RADIO Roms is the best and fixes my problem.
I tested these 4 Radio Roms:
1. 02.07.10
2. 02.71.11
3. 02.37.11
4. 02.47.11
Many thanks
Srikanth.K

Try these both,they are considered to be the most stable and with good radio signals :-
Radio Rom 2.19.11
Radio Rom 2.69.11

Same problem
Hello
Tryed these radio rom also as you given but have same problem.
I think that the GPRS will search only when wake up but not at the startup of the device.
May be, there are some tweaks in registry that can be made to search the GPRS on startup of the device or an startup app.
Do anyone know that, GPRS and EDGE are the same sevice or thay are different?
Does anyone know that, any software/app that show where I am ( i.e Network Name, Name of area & etc )?
Many Thanks
Srikanth.K

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Hello........
I still waiting for the answer......
Thanks

GPRS icon inpalce of EDGE
I have O2 XDA mini s and I am connected to EDGE connection and my screen is showing G inplace of E. Pease advice

madan26 said:
I have O2 XDA mini s and I am connected to EDGE connection and my screen is showing G inplace of E. Pease advice
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Hi,
Try advanced config 3.3.
Thanking You

ksrikanth said:
Hello,
Does someone noticed about gprs or edge icon in htc wizard.
When the edge icon is disabled ( i.e In default settings ). It shows G Icon at the top of screen, that is normal. BUT when we press the power button at the top of the device and press it again, The device wakes-up. But the G icon changes to E icon and resets after softreset ( i.e G icon )
Points:
1. G icon changes to E icon when we wakeup the device!
2. Only After softreset it goes to normal. i.e G icon but same probem after wakeup!
I tried all the roms in this site but same problem. Also changed the radio rom.
Please someone check this in your phone
Many Thanks
Srikanth.K
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What is this grey G icon?

Does anyone know why my "G" icon is sometimes greyed?I mean, no problem it is a G, but why is it on gray background?
I don't see in the user manual anything like that..can it be because of my ROM?
In order to try to save a little battery and because i don't use data connections (wifi only), I set GSM only and deactivated HSDPA, does it have to do with it? Thanks
P.S. i've looked around for some nicer top-bar icons like some people have,but no success:any advice?link?

I'm not completely sure what icon you mean, but I think it is the icon that indicates that a GPRS connection is available (not connected).
To connect to the internet you can have different mobile wireless connections: GPRS (with a G-icon), EDGE (with an E-icon), 3G (with a 3G-icon) and HSDPA (with an H-icon). GPRS being the slowest, HSDPA the fastest, EDGE is not available in all country's and not every connection is available everywhere.

its saying that u are using 3G

shayan.k said:
its saying that u are using 3G
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No it's not, that's a 3G icon.

shayan.k said:
its saying that u are using 3G
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This is out of question, 3G is disabled with NoData.cab and HD Tweak.Furthermore, the name of my gsm operator changes when not in 3G.
@whizz: Thanks for your clear explanation, but as a matter of fact i have 2 "G" icons available (not at the same time), one is the white "square G" on black background (let's call it default, present in the manual) and another one wich is a normal G on grey background..curious..I'm sorry!I wish I could post a screenshot!
EDIT: Here's my guess, I am on a GPRS network but using only GSM..could it be?

Sualc, I can't answer your question but I have wondered the same myself. I also see the greyed out icons sometimes. I haven't bothered researching it becasue it doesn't seem to be a big deal but I would like to know as well.

gadgetgaz said:
Sualc, I can't answer your question but I have wondered the same myself. I also see the greyed out icons sometimes. I haven't bothered researching it becasue it doesn't seem to be a big deal but I would like to know as well.
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Thank you for witnessing the same , I was afraid people could think I had hallucinations.Yeah you're right, compared to dozens of other REAL bugs this subject is really not important, just to know...By the way..I just left my bedroom and went down the stairs and now I've got the standard icon!!Tricky, hum?

Greyed out icons mean that type of connection is available, but not in use. It's white when in use.

twinnings said:
Greyed out icons mean that type of connection is available, but not in use. It's white when in use.
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Implausible - I have my internet connection APN deliberately mis-set to prevent any data connections at all. I still get both normal and greyed out icons from time to time.

Grey G icon means bad or no gprs signal I think. I have somewhere read about it.

Thanks, anyway there is already a signal strenght indicator near the G..but if you read it somewhere no reason to doubt.

I can confirm I get that grey G icon sometimes... it might be a rendering screen bug too....

i get a E for edge and a g for 3g

It may mean a bad signal but the device polls so infrequently as to make it pointless.
Behavior just observed.....
1 - I had an H (HSDPA) with a grey background.
2 - I connect to the internet and get an H with a white background.
3 - I disconnect from the internet to try and a grey background but it is still white.
4 - I walk over to the elevator (bad signal) to try and get a grey background
5 - The data icon goes from H with white background to G with white background
Conclusion ..... non informative and quite meaningless

I am 90% sure that the grey background means bad signal... When it shows in my device, it happens always in areas that reception is poor.

Not unique to the TD2. I get the same from time to time on my Touch HD. Have mildly wondered but never bothered to research.

check out this link,
there is a picture explaning all the icon meanings on D2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=520751

It happens to me too, but not very often. It´s not about not being connected, because the white icon is there when there´s no connection.
The GPRS signal being too weak seems like a good explanation to me.

lazylilsnoop said:
check out this link,
there is a picture explaning all the icon meanings on D2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=520751
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I'm afraid the G icon we're talking about is not among the ones lsted there..so until something "official" comes out could we say that "G greyed icon" = "GPRS band selected but not availabe "?

sualc said:
I'm afraid the G icon we're talking about is not among the ones lsted there..so until something "official" comes out could we say that "G greyed icon" = "GPRS band selected but not availabe "?
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the G is there, the 2nd reply attached with the picture explains
G(dark color) = GPRS available
G(grey color) = GPRS unavailable.