Opera 9 crash, i need help.!! :( - Touch HD General

Hi.!
I've a big annoiance problem...so, i use opera browser and during the navigation it's all ok..but when i finish, i press exit and after the phone freeze up; i'm constrict to soft reset or kill the process with Sktool's task manager..i'm going crazy for find the cause that generate this crash..can anyone help me.?

opera on my phone is not stable at all
it often hangs and closes itself ...........
not happy with opera 9.5 and it also never gets replaced or reinstalled ..........

commando0 said:
opera on my phone is not stable at all
it often hangs and closes itself ...........
not happy with opera 9.5 and it also never gets replaced or reinstalled ..........
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Can be a bad setting that create those crashes.? what's your opinion.?

The cause of this problem is \Windows\htcapi.dll. Uninstall the program that put it there and you'll be fine. Or just delete the file. If it came with a custom ROM rename it to something like htcapi.dll.bak.

vangrieg said:
The cause of this problem is \Windows\htcapi.dll. Uninstall the program that put it there and you'll be fine. Or just delete the file. If it came with a custom ROM rename it to something like htcapi.dll.bak.
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This .dll is attached on other critical component inside the PDA or i can change the extension without any problem .?

It's not part of stock ROM, doesn't exist in your device as it comes from HTC. It's added by some programs like "Diamond Hologram", some tweaks intended for "optimizing" device performance, and sometimes ROM chefs include it in their custom ROMs. So if you get rid of it some programs will stop working. I've never seen an important program use it though, so it's safe to at least try. The problem with this dll is that it's taken from some other devices and isn't made for HD.

vangrieg said:
It's not part of stock ROM, doesn't exist in your device as it comes from HTC. It's added by some programs like "Diamond Hologram", some tweaks intended for "optimizing" device performance, and sometimes ROM chefs include it in their custom ROMs. So if you get rid of it some programs will stop working. I've never seen an important program use it though, so it's safe to at least try. The problem with this dll is that it's taken from some other devices and isn't made for HD.
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Ok i've changed the extension and soft reset..the browser seems to be ok now.! i've tryed to open/closed 3 or 4 times and the phone won't crash..! amazing.! but, why this .dll create this conflict with opera.?

I have no idea why this conflict exists, but generally if you take a driver from one device and try to use it on another you're asking for trouble.

vangrieg said:
I have no idea why this conflict exists, but generally if you take a driver from one device and try to use it on another you're asking for trouble.
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Oh is right.! have you seen that in April will go out Touch HD 2.? the camera will have flash.! but i think that the Touch hd 1 remain the good choice..what do you think about.?

This is completely off-topic, but yes, I think HD2 will be my next phone. And yes, HD is a very good device to my taste.

but i am having problems with opera in default rom which is from orange
and even updating with new orange rom opera is not stable especially after enabling plugin in settings of opera
its all with out tweeks and moding

I have no idea what that Orange ROM is like. If there htcapi.dll in \Windows? If yes, rename it and see if it helps.
Apart from that, what plugin are you trying to enable?

vangrieg said:
I have no idea what that Orange ROM is like. If there htcapi.dll in \Windows? If yes, rename it and see if it helps.
Apart from that, what plugin are you trying to enable?
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unable to find file htcapi.dll in windows folder
i do not have exact idea of these plugins(i believe it to be java ) but opera settings >advance settings have option to enable plugins

The fact that there is a setting doesn't mean you have to change it, especially when you don't know what you're doing. Just disable them and live happily ever after.

commando0 said:
unable to find file htcapi.dll in windows folder
i do not have exact idea of these plugins(i believe it to be java ) but opera settings >advance settings have option to enable plugins
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I use Total-Commander for find this library.dll in Windows folder because if you use the normal finder in the phone, it doesn't reveat the system's files (i think for a security prevenction)...try this and say us if you have solved..in any case be happy, we will find the cause of your problems

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WM5.o Compatible close button needed!

has anybody come across a one button close all application for WM5.0? Spb 3.0.1 is too slow on WM5 and Wisbar Advance 2.4.....is also too much for what is needed. Something like Magicbutton but written for WM5.0 would br nice, nothing that requires much memory, but something that enables the closing of running apps without having to go into start/settings/system/memory...etc.
Wouldn't it be nice if Microsoft had just written in that piece of code, as they are well aware that since PPC2000, that every application opened, remains so unless you manually close it down in memory (therefore hogging memory resources!) :evil:
Well if anyone knows of a WM specific solution, please do share.
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has anybody come across a one button close all application for WM5.0? Spb 3.0.1 is too slow on WM5 and Wisbar Advance 2.4.....is also too much for what is needed. Something like Magicbutton but written for WM5.0 would br nice, nothing that requires much memory, but something that enables the closing of running apps without having to go into start/settings/system/memory...etc.
Wouldn't it be nice if Microsoft had just written in that piece of code, as they are well aware that since PPC2000, that every application opened, remains so unless you manually close it down in memory (therefore hogging memory resources!) :evil:
Well if anyone knows of a WM specific solution, please do share.
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I added couple files which they are usefull for you and they include the closeall app.
Install the cab files you'll see the close all, Reset and Running programs, which they can be clicked from the systray directly, after the installation they require a soft reset or else you go to Start>Programs>System open TrayLaunch and press Enable
GSPocketMagic++ is the most stable program I've tried. You need to put some amended bitmaps in to get it to integrate with WM5 but it works well...
http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=1276
Thanks guys. I'll try them both and let you know how I get on.
Damn!! My Jasjar is a Rocket!!
sub69 said:
GSPocketMagic++ is the most stable program I've tried. You need to put some amended bitmaps in to get it to integrate with WM5 but it works well...
http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=1276
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sub69: I don't know what kind of coding they used in that software you recommended, but it has boosted refresh rates and performance in general by at least 30%!! I know this sounds crazy but it's true! My opinion has completely changed about the speed of the Jasjar. It seriously Rocks! I couldn't care less if it doesn't stay this way, because it shows me conclusively, that future ROMs' will probably address the issues I have had thus far.
I needed this. Thanks a bunch sub69; best link I've had with regards to Universal software.
OK 1 gripe only: I've lost my two soft buttons on the bottom bar (any ideas?). It comes back and stays operational after a soft reset, but as soon as I use the 'close all' option of the program, I loose the soft keys! Damn..there's always a hitch!
Another positive though, the speed boost remains even after I have exited the program and revert to standard WM5.0 launcher!
P.S. I had at least 12 programs running simultaneously with no slow downs at all and 15 megs of Memory still available (tried to run out of memory, But couldn't). Very pleased at the moment, this is what I was expecting from the HTC Universal!! I'll test extensively before I comment further.
Thanks again sub69, u da Man!!
Mental...I didn't realise it was that good!?!
Not sure about the soft buttons, although come to think of it I have noticed they've disappeared a couple of times. Must've been when I hit "Close All" too?
Glad I could help, anyway. Do let us know how things go...
Re:getting better all the time!!
sub69 said:
Mental...I didn't realise it was that good!?!
Not sure about the soft buttons, although come to think of it I have noticed they've disappeared a couple of times. Must've been when I hit "Close All" too?
Glad I could help, anyway. Do let us know how things go...
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Still cannot believe it!! It's still going strong. Sussed the soft button thingy:Under start (GSPocket)/options/settings...uncheck the 2 tabs for'use exten task close' & 'Use Today skin'. That's it. It runs absolutely perfectly for me & with no need for amended bitmaps too! It fits right in wih my red or blue border themes (I only use my own jpegs now instead of themes - in the hope that I get no performance issues.....so far so good). Under menu settind tab I only select close all & setting (which gives me quick access to all settings in WM5.0..personal & system) and under 'click' tab I leave it as default 'Menu'. I'm so impressed with this software, I didn't think non-specific WM5 software coul be this good!
That site you recommended is also tops!
This software is so good that I must put up a new thread to inform all of your wonder find. I just hope all who try it get the same experience I'm getting. Thanks again sub69....I don't even feel the need for the next ROM update/grade...though I won't be turning it away.
Hmmm, not sure why you're that stunned. I'm finding it just fine - but certainly no faster than my JJ runs under PocketPlus 3.01, and the non-VGA graphics are a real step backwards. Anyone know how to solve this?
You mention a speed improvement; can you clarify: Before this, how long did it take to rotate the screen, and how long does it take now?
MagicButton (mbutton) works with batterymeter
Hi All,
I installed MagicButton (freeware) om my K-Jam. It works so far!
Cheers,
CookieM
pocketpcfreewares.com is great! They do an RSSfeed showing all new and updated software, too, so its a permanent fixture as a "Live Bookmark" on my Firefox bookmarks toolbar.
I must fiddle with some .bmp's for GSPocketMagic++...
Can someone tell me how to install this? In laymans terms
It's simpler than you think
trapper said:
Can someone tell me how to install this? In laymans terms
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Carnivor said:
CJSnet said:
Which CAB file do I install?
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GSPMagic.xscaleE.CAB for english on JJ
Sub69, nice start button, now the flawless look sets it off
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That's the file you need to download for the Jasjar, then if you have an SD card reader, you can transfer it directly to it and install the .cab file by selecting it! If you don't have a card reader, let's hope you have a bluetooth dongle, as it's a small file then you can bluetooth it over. However if you have no problems with your activesync connection, just use that to dump the .cab file on your storage card somewhere or into 'My Documents' on the jasjar.
It's not complicated.
Read the posts craigiecraigie4!
craigiecraigie4 said:
Hmmm, not sure why you're that stunned. I'm finding it just fine - but certainly no faster than my JJ runs under PocketPlus 3.01, and the non-VGA graphics are a real step backwards. Anyone know how to solve this?
You mention a speed improvement; can you clarify: Before this, how long did it take to rotate the screen, and how long does it take now?
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craigiecraigie4 said:
I can confirm that this programme is small and perfectly funcitonal for closing apps. If you're battling with PocketPlus for some reason, then this is definitely the way to go.
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mackaby007 said:
For anyone like sub69 who have experienced relatively few problems with their universal, you might not notice any difference, but for anyone who is still suffering performance issues
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Read the following thread and you'll see that I had performance issues with my jasjar, hence these posts:
Link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=30443
ramram said:
I added couple files which they are usefull for you and they include the closeall app.
Install the cab files you'll see the close all, Reset and Running programs, which they can be clicked from the systray directly, after the installation they require a soft reset or else you go to Start>Programs>System open TrayLaunch and press Enable
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Good App ! made my day, very useful and simple
Cheers
hrb
Yep, using it myself now - but no speed change over PocketPlus (even after hard reset to remove PP). Using it cos I like menu and PP didn;t offer all that much more that other apps don;t give me.

Opera crash

Hi all,
each time I shut down Opera, it crashes, and I have a screen explaining me Opera crach ......
I've the stock release.
This issue appeared one day but I don't know when, maybe a problem with an installed application ????
Any idea to fix it ?
Kaz
Did you install Flashlite 3.1 ? That program makes opera slow and unstable.
thx for your answer,
no flashlite on my phone .......
Kaz
I have the same thing, I have installed quite a few things lately though.
Guess the only option is to hard reset and start over.
i have the same prob. installed latest beta last night still has the same prob. means i cant change the settings and save them, so cant impliment that iplayer fix as a result.
I think I solved the problem. In my case it appeared after I played with build 2808. Opera started crashing on exit and even hanging the device. It turned out that while I didn't have Flash installed, opera.ini still pointed to a non-existing plugin folder, \Windows\Opera9\plugins. So I simply went to opera:config, found the path setting, reset it to default (blank), and the problem is gone!
No, today it started crashing on exit again for no apparent reason, and what's worse, it hangs the device completely!
Does anybody have stock unmodified files so I can try to replace what I have in \Windows\Opera9?
when you say crash, is this when you get the thing asking you to send an error report to m$? if so i get the same thing. i'm unsure whats causing it and dont want to hard reset. the way i olook at it currently is it doesnt seem to crash when i actually use opera so i try and ignore it
Found it!
I had installed that Seismo thing that needs HTCAPI.DLL in the windows folder.
When I removed that, no more Opera crash (yes the one where it asks to send a report to MS)
And I did a hard reset for that!
Pierced Soul said:
when you say crash, is this when you get the thing asking you to send an error report to m$? if so i get the same thing. i'm unsure whats causing it and dont want to hard reset. the way i olook at it currently is it doesnt seem to crash when i actually use opera so i try and ignore it
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In my case it was sometimes hanging the whole device. I had to reset it using the button in the battery compartment.
I solved the problem finally (at least it's been working for a whole day without any crashing) by uninstalling .Net CF 3.5 and Gyrator 2
HugoTouchHD said:
Found it!
I had installed that Seismo thing that needs HTCAPI.DLL in the windows folder.
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I still have HTCAPI.dll in my \Windows, no crashes.
HugoTouchHD said:
Found it!
I had installed that Seismo thing that needs HTCAPI.DLL in the windows folder.
When I removed that, no more Opera crash (yes the one where it asks to send a report to MS)
And I did a hard reset for that!
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Confirmed. I did it as well. I tried it before removing and got the crash. i removed it, loaded opera, exited it and no crash.
I installed that .dll because VR Hologram needed it.
frustin said:
I installed that .dll because VR Hologram needed it.
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Same here. Although the strange thing is why it's not crashing with this dll in my \Windows folder.
Maybe it's a trilateral conflict between Opera, .NET CF 3.5 and the dll, and removing one of the three solves the issue?
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Same here. Although the strange thing is why it's not crashing with this dll in my \Windows folder.
Maybe it's a trilateral conflict between Opera, .NET CF 3.5 and the dll, and removing one of the three solves the issue?
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That sounds plausible, I still have .NET CF3.5 without the DLL and have not had Opera crashing since removing HTCAPI.DLL, I need .NET for more than that DLL.
Added this to the HD Wiki page
HugoTouchHD said:
Found it!
I had installed that Seismo thing that needs HTCAPI.DLL in the windows folder.
When I removed that, no more Opera crash (yes the one where it asks to send a report to MS)
And I did a hard reset for that!
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I confirm. Removal of the htcapi.dll file also solved my opera crash problem.
HTCAPI.DLL versions
Hi All,
I had the same problem with Opera crashing the phone on exit.
today I found that I have 2 htcapi.dll on my desktop that it seems I have downloaded. I was about to delete one of them when I realized that they have different sizes. one around 7KB and the other one around 4 KB.
so I checked the one installed on my HD and it was the 7KB so I replaced it with the smaller one, and so far no crash anymore.
I hope this will help you guys.
I am attaching the file for you to try.
Regards
Bassem
Hey all. I am still having this problem even after deleting the above .dll. Basically when I go to exit opera, the whole phone locks up and I have to hard reset or remove the battery and reset the phone that way. Any suggestions as to what could be going on? It only started this 3 days ago, and I ahven't installed any new apps/programs in the past week.
Edit, solution found in other thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468861

Touch Flo

Hi guys,
first of all I would like to congratulate all of you for apps & info. The phone would be a disappointment for me if xda-developers didn't exist.
As I am a newbie in the winmo family I need some info. I want to install touch flo (I don't care which edition, as long as it is a cab) and I have some questions:
1. which cab should I try? Please don't propose any roms, I am not ready for that step yet . I want a stable and not battery-thirsty version, don't care if the best would be 2D or having to wait for touch flo 3D 2.
2. Can I install it on the memory card? If yes, do you know what are the pros/cons?
3. Will I be able to uninstall it and how?
4. Any other advice???
As I have noticed on the many touch flo related threads, there are a lot of people having the same questions. Please help us all!
Thanks in advance
My personal and honest opinion follows.
1 - Install nothing. Touch Flo sucks big time. (great job to the people who ported it to the x1, but the app itself sucks)
2 - See point 1.
3 - As far as i know it cannot be installed and you have to do a hard reset. My info is outdated though. Maybe with the newer version you can do it???? Again see point 1.
4 - See point 1.
Agreed
I ran it for a little while, but the performance was appauling, a cooked ROM with it should be faster because it's in the ROM and works differently.
Without TouchFlo my Windows folder takes 3 seconds to load, with it, the Windows folder takes well over 30 seconds.
I decided to just install some simple things like the task manager, the volume control and the mp3 trimmer. Kept everything else stock and just installed some nice HomeScreen plugins to make it do what i want.
Even if you get TouchFlo, they aren't all landscape compatible, only tyhe new TouchFlo 2(?) and as far as i know even with those some things like the cammera buttons (on screen, not physical) don't work.
vector4agn said:
1. which cab should I try? Please don't propose any roms, I am not ready for that step yet . I want a stable and not battery-thirsty version, don't care if the best would be 2D or having to wait for touch flo 3D 2.
2. Can I install it on the memory card? If yes, do you know what are the pros/cons?
3. Will I be able to uninstall it and how?
4. Any other advice???
As I have noticed on the many touch flo related threads, there are a lot of people having the same questions. Please help us all!
Thanks in advance
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1- try itje's manilaHD cab. you'll find in this forum
2- no
3- yes, same way as all programs (always DO a backup before you install something huge or intrusive like tflo3d, I suggest spb backup)
4- I simply love tflo3d and suggest you to try a rom with new manila cooked in. It's faster for interface and for all the rest as cooked roms comes with all brand new build and drivers. go trough the forum, read and flash... don't be scared, just follow the procedures
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Without TouchFlo my Windows folder takes 3 seconds to load, with it, the Windows folder takes well over 30 seconds.
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lol, it's obvious... you have a 50% number of files in it... manila installs itself in windows directory -_-'
alias_neo said:
Even if you get TouchFlo, they aren't all landscape compatible, only tyhe new TouchFlo 2(?) and as far as i know even with those some things like the cammera buttons (on screen, not physical) don't work.
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manila2 roms from itje and jackleung works flawlessy. please don't give incorrect info
guap said:
manila2 roms from itje and jackleung works flawlessy. please don't give incorrect info
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Yeah, the ROMS work fine but the cabs outthere are crab. They are far from being stable, fast or useable.
I prefer the SE panel because all the information is on one page there without the need of flipping around.
My suggestion: If you really want TF3D, then flash your phone with a custom ROM (Itje's for English language, YYYYY has mad a fine ROM in German). That is the only way to have a fast and stable TF3D and also the option of using the panels!
Lol
guap said:
lol, it's obvious... you have a 50% number of files in it... manila installs itself in windows directory -_-'
manila2 roms from itje and jackleung works flawlessy. please don't give incorrect info
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Well obviously I know this, otherwise why would I make a reference about how it takes significantly longer to load the windows folder?
But 100% more files? Surely then it takes 100% longer to load, not 1000%.
And I gave no incorrect info, I said "they aren't all landscape compatible, only tyhe new TouchFlo 2(?)" - The question mark means I wasn't entirely sure on the name, so it's Manila 2, all the same to me.
Also, "and as far as i know even with those some things like the cammera buttons (on screen, not physical) don't work." - This means I'm not entirely sure if this is the case and it should be looked into.
and Finally "manila2 roms from itje and jackleung works flawlessy." - I specifically remember the OP asking for a cab and not a ROM. Which is where my information was directed.
guap said:
lol, it's obvious... you have a 50% number of files in it... manila installs itself in windows directory -_-'
manila2 roms from itje and jackleung works flawlessy. please don't give incorrect info
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hmm why would they install it in the windows folder and not in windows/manilla/ or something?
it's not a secret that filesystems on embedded devices are generally slow
Thanks
Thanks to everybody!
I'll probably backup everything and start trying cabs and roms.
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But 100% more files? Surely then it takes 100% longer to load, not 1000%.
And I gave no incorrect info, I said "they aren't all landscape compatible, only tyhe new TouchFlo 2(?)" - The question mark means I wasn't entirely sure on the name, so it's Manila 2, all the same to me.
Also, "and as far as i know even with those some things like the cammera buttons (on screen, not physical) don't work." - This means I'm not entirely sure if this is the case and it should be looked into.
and Finally "manila2 roms from itje and jackleung works flawlessy." - I specifically remember the OP asking for a cab and not a ROM. Which is where my information was directed.
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Well, I think Guap is mostly right and you simply know nothing what you really talking about. Let me give you some fact:
1. First, you got to understand it's "non rom" files under /Windows tax more on performance. A clean WM has only about ~20 "non rom" files under \Windows, TF3D 2 alone (not including all the complicated dependence like camera, album, audio manager ..etc) put 2219 files to /Window if using cab (TF3D 1 is ~ 2000 files). Therefore, it's normal it's take 1000% more time.
2. From your words, it simply show you did not try enough custom roms before you made yr comment. All my rom (from 2.2 to 2.7) do not have camera button problem. Obeviously your "as far as i know" isn't far enough.
I stated earlier in other thread already. If you really want to use TF3D (v1 or v2), pick an custom rom and forget about CAB. Using a cab for TF3D is simply hiting yr toe w/ a rock because you will be disappointed by the speed and compatibity issue.
duplicated post.

entering windows folder very slow!

When i try to enter the windows folder i takaes "forever"...the windows logo loads util display turns off...then when i unlock the device it is already in the folder...it wasnt like that at the begining...i tryed hardreset and softreset...nothing. I'm using 1.48 rom version.
same to me. any ideas?
jujoo said:
When i try to enter the windows folder i takaes "forever"...the windows logo loads util display turns off...then when i unlock the device it is already in the folder...it wasnt like that at the begining...i tryed hardreset and softreset...nothing. I'm using 1.48 rom version.
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fazi78 said:
same to me. any ideas?
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this is because you have installed somthing that dumped allot of and or modified allot of the files in the windows directory...
I don't know what is the problem. I'm removing the device from the usb port without setting it for safty remove from windows options.When i'm ready i unplug the usb cable directly. Is it possibe to harm the device in any way? Are you doing the same fazi78?
I had the same problem with 1.48 rom. I upgraded to 1.72 and the problem was solved.
Yeah .. it's just windows after all. There is just a lot of files there. Some software can make it even worse.
But there is also problem with sorting. Sorting by name is fine. Sorting by type is so slow, it did not finish in 20 minutes on my phone (had to reset and modify registers, because it remembers both folder and sorting method).
Thanks man, it was from the sorting! Mine was type sorting, switched it to name and problem is gone! Thank you!
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Thanks man, it was from the sorting! Mine was type sorting, switched it to name and problem is gone! Thank you!
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This has been a problem for a lot of people, including me, on many different Winmo devices. This is the first promising "fix" that I've heard of. Where did you find and switch the sorting method?
Thanks in advance
Tref said:
This has been a problem for a lot of people, including me, on many different Winmo devices. This is the first promising "fix" that I've heard of. Where did you find and switch the sorting method?
Thanks in advance
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open up file manager (default file manager) see the top right? where it says name with a little arrow? click that.
If something seems too good to be true, chances are it is.
That setting would really only be likely to affect the speed at which File Explorer searches for things (and maybe PIE if opening a directory with it). But at any rate I've never changed that setting on any of my PDAs or Phones and have seen the slowness of opening the Windows directory with many different apps, including FE and PIE, Resco, NetFront, PocketBreeze, etc. But it was worth a try. Thanks for the quick reply, I just wish it had been the magic answer.
File explorer
I have had the same problem and i changed it to sort by name and "bam"...problem solved thanks a lot:d:d:d

Which Items Are Safe to Remove from Start Menu?

i got an unmodded hd2 TMOUS 6.5 stock rom. i got items in my startup folder that i want to remove. below are the items. which ones are safe to remove without any problems?
- BTTrayCE
- HTCStartUp
- Instant Forward
- LockDevice
- PKG
- poutlook
- SyncManager
- Voice Command
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when im on Stock 3.14 i always remove all the items on my startup folder, and i dont have any problems or issues with my phone. My phone runs smooth without any problems.
thebest1 said:
when im on Stock 3.14 i always remove all the items on my startup folder, and i dont have any problems or issues with my phone. My phone runs smooth without any problems.
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wassup thebest1. just to let you know, i got an unmodded, stock 6.5 hd2. i got a questions please. will removing startup items increase batt life and performance?
Only knowns issues by removing it are some apps that i notice. For instance holding the power button for 3 sec quicklist (Shutdown)app will appear. Now if you remove the apps from startup folder, holding the power button for 3 sec it will take about 6-7 sec for the quicklist app to appear. Same goes with Comm Manager, it will open automaticall. But by removing the apps from startup application it will take about 6-7 sec for Comm Manager to open. I replace those 2 apps with psshutxp and cookies home tab. I hope this helps.
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Only knowns issues by removing it are some apps that i notice. For instance holding the power button for 3 sec quicklist (Shutdown)app will appear. Now if you remove the apps from startup folder, holding the power button for 3 sec it will take about 6-7 sec for the quicklist app to appear. Same goes with Comm Manager, it will open automaticall. But by removing the apps from startup application it will take about 6-7 sec for Comm Manager to open. I replace those 2 apps with psshutxp and cookies home tab. I hope this helps.
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so in other words, removing these startup items wont affect batt life or perforrnance. just that some programs will start a few secs longer.
Thats Correct. It will not affect battery life or performance.
I could be wrong but I think taking things off of your Start up has bound to help some. I mean for one when you first boot up hour device it uses the start up to know what programs it is suppose to initialize and start up and let continue to run in the background. So it would help a small bit by your device not having to start so much up and taking less time to boot. After all boot up is when your device has some of it's highest power consumtion. Also the less things running in the background the less the processor has to work and the less power consumption the device has. This is why turning HTC Sense off helps save battery because even though you canxsee it on the home screen. It is still a programthat is running in the background cause it is not part of the actual Windows OS but a theme or graphic UI for the device, now granted HTC Sense is one of the biggest power consuming programs compared to others. But thos is because HTC Sense recquires alot of,memory and resources of the device where most other programs don't. Remember I am only using HTC Sense as an example.
When you take the programs off of start up they take longer to come up because the have to cold start as to hot start if the are in start up. Cold start means it has to initialilize or started up before it can open. Hot start means it is already initialized or started ip and can just open.
T-Macgnolia said:
I could be wrong but I think taking things off of your Start up has bound to help some. I mean for one when you first boot up hour device it uses the start up to know what programs it is suppose to initialize and start up and let continue to run in the background. So it would help a small bit by your device not having to start so much up and taking less time to boot. After all boot up is when your device has some of it's highest power consumtion. Also the less things running in the background the less the processor has to work and the less power consumption the device has. This is why turning HTC Sense off helps save battery because even though you canxsee it on the home screen. It is still a programthat is running in the background cause it is not part of the actual Windows OS but a theme or graphic UI for the device, now granted HTC Sense is one of the biggest power consuming programs compared to others. But thos is because HTC Sense recquires alot of,memory and resources of the device where most other programs don't. Remember I am only using HTC Sense as an example.
When you take the programs off of start up they take longer to come up because the have to cold start as to hot start if the are in start up. Cold start means it has to initialilize or started up before it can open. Hot start means it is already initialized or started ip and can just open.
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hi t-mac.. thanks again for the reply. can you tell me to the best of your knowledge what these startup programs listed above are for?
koolxx said:
- BTTrayCE
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This has to do with your Bluetooth on your HD2, I am not sure but I think it is the program that actually runs the Bluetooth on your HD2. I Highlyb suggest not messing with it as you possible may regret it, I have read threads of people having troubles with BBTrayCe.exe not working or giving errors. So to be safe I would not mess with it.
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- HTCStartUp
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This is something else I suggest you do not mess with as this is also something kind of vital to your HD2 working right while running Windows Mobile. It activates such things like the G-Sensor, the volume controls, USB detect5ion, and etc. So you can why you ewould not want to mess with this.- Instant Forward
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- LockDevice
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This is the .exe that starts up the screen lock program, and the security lock program (if you use it) on your HD2, if you don't use or want either of these you can remove it and nothing bad should happen, except you would probably have to manually lock \disable the screen if you wanted the display to stay on all the time.
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- PKG
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I think tjhis is a program that allows auto run programs like .cab files to run when you click on them. There is other file types it allows to run also but I just used .cab as an example as I know most people know what they are.
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- poutlook
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This enables your Outlook functions in Windows Mobile. That is the easiest way to put it.
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- SyncManager
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This .exe has to do with starting ActiveSync and all the syncing capobilities it has this includes your Outlook services too
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- Voice Command
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This one is kind of self explanatory, it activaites your voice command fuction.
T-Macgnolia said:
This has to do with your Bluetooth on your HD2, I am not sure but I think it is the program that actually runs the Bluetooth on your HD2. I Highlyb suggest not messing with it as you possible may regret it, I have read threads of people having troubles with BBTrayCe.exe not working or giving errors. So to be safe I would not mess with it.
This is something else I suggest you do not mess with as this is also something kind of vital to your HD2 working right while running Windows Mobile. It activates such things like the G-Sensor, the volume controls, USB detect5ion, and etc. So you can why you ewould not want to mess with this.- Instant Forward
This is the .exe that starts up the screen lock program, and the security lock program (if you use it) on your HD2, if you don't use or want either of these you can remove it and nothing bad should happen, except you would probably have to manually lock \disable the screen if you wanted the display to stay on all the time.
I think tjhis is a program that allows auto run programs like .cab files to run when you click on them. There is other file types it allows to run also but I just used .cab as an example as I know most people know what they are.
This enables your Outlook functions in Windows Mobile. That is the easiest way to put it.
This .exe has to do with starting ActiveSync and all the syncing capobilities it has this includes your Outlook services too
This one is kind of self explanatory, it activaites your voice command fuction.
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thanks t-mac.. can you tell me what 'instant forward' is for? thanks man.
koolxx said:
thanks t-mac.. can you tell me what 'instant forward' is for? thanks man.
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I am not positive but I think it has to do with getting instant messages from messenger programs like yahoo, MSN, Google, and etc.
T-Macgnolia said:
I am not positive but I think it has to do with getting instant messages from messenger programs like yahoo, MSN, Google, and etc.
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thank you t-mac. also, just to let you know, im thinking about installing the custom stock rom you suggested. i think the one called 'reference'. but cn one use android apps on it? i'll be posting a new thread on this. thanks.
koolxx said:
thank you t-mac. also, just to let you know, im thinking about installing the custom stock rom you suggested. i think the one called 'reference'. but cn one use android apps on it? i'll be posting a new thread on this. thanks.
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No you can not use any androidapps with Windows Mobile at all. Now if it is a Windows Mobile version of the app then yes you can use it bitcthe Windows Mobileversion will probably not be quit as good as the Android.

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