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hello xda members,
how do i get a new windows on my mobile phone?
can somebody help me?
i'm a little confused about this here.. my friend told me i should look into this here but informiation is too much for me. we both got this trinity phone from our provider but functionality is poor ... i read somewhere it would have also gps? so how do i activate/use this?
cheers
hugo
some more details how to flash your phone.
Not that i am going to write you the whole procedure but...
1. Choose the rom with the proper language. WWE for English, FRA for French, etc.
2. There are several very good cooked roms in this forum. All will be WM6.1 with different 'borrowed' features from more advanced phones than ours, who is pretty 'old' in phone years..
3. download the rom package. It is normally ZIP or RAR. Extract them to your PC, have the phone connected (Active Sync must recognize your phone), and run the application to flash the rom. check the right boxes and it supposes to flash your rom. make sure your battery is at 50% at least, and do not stop this process until it finishes.
4. Some phones may get errors trying to flash. In that case you should make your phone start in IPL mode (push power, camera and stylus push the reset button for more than 1 second) until you get the right screen. I assume your phone is unlocked. If it is, and have hard SPL ready, see next item. If not, start doing some massive reading on the forum what needs to be done.
5. better read this link before you start: http://www.trinityguides.info/index.php . It's the best source for answering most of the questions you may have.
6. Don't ask people what rom is the best. You will get more answers than roms... You have to try and flash few until you get the one you like.
7. The best home plug-in currently is Manila 2D . Most cookers will have it with and without it. Try one with it, as it is better to get it cooked than added later. However, it is a matter of taste and memory management, so you may want to have one without.
8. Lastly- there are lite, medium and full blown roms. Again- it depends what your needs are.
So, it's a trial and error, my friend. Get ready for some sleepless nights.
Good luck
BigE
BigE said:
... So, it's a trial and error, my friend. Get ready for some sleepless nights.
Good luck
BigE
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Nice reply BigE. Great to see more experienced xda users helping newcomers.
Mattser
WHY
Halpefull thread, thanks to all of us newcomers.
why some themes have diamond in the name and are in p3600 forum...what is the diference in skin and theme?
danilo01 said:
Halpefull thread, thanks to all of us newcomers.
why some themes have diamond in the name and are in p3600 forum...what is the diference in skin and theme?
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Basically, "skin" and "theme" mean the same thing. They both refer to changing the screen display on a device.
One popular "theme" in the Trinity forum is making the screen display look like that of the HTC Diamond device. That is why the themes have the word "diamond" in their name.
Hope this helps,
Mattster.
i tought so
si needed for diamond skins to download manila or something?thanks
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si needed for diamond skins to download manila or something?thanks
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The Choice is yours.
Flash a Manila ROM and install m2dc customiser (some roms come with it already installed), you will have easy access to many, many themes that will change the appearance of your home screen and launch screens (messages, contacts, settings, etc.) It does use more memory and slow your phone down slightly, but for some that is not a problem.
Flash a non Manila ROM: you are more limited, but you can simply change the background artwork of your screen ("wallpaper") using .tsk files. There are also tweaking programs that allow you to change font sizes & colours. There is also pay for software out there (like spb mobile shell) which allows you to install themes, and xda does have threads for them.
If your main enjoyment is playing around with themes (as opposed to relying on the phone for memory intensive applications), I recommend you read as much as possible on the manila2d skin threads, then flash a Manila rom and use m2dc customiser. Searches on xda will explain all.
Hope this helps,
Mattster.
Aha thanks
XDA-Team_Manilla2D WORCKS SO FAR IT IS OK THANKS!
I hope this is ok here, I have searched a lot and my question is not directly answered (or I can not find it)
I have just had a new HD turn up, had one when they first came out but liked iPhone so much, could not stop using it, so Touch HD went back.
Just been through lots of different phones again, as at last I am finding iPhone limiting in the things I want to do. Just rejected a TP2 as it has no 3.3mm socket, and is a bit heavy, quite happy with soft keyboard now from iPhone use, so I think Touch HD will suit me fine.
OK, I really liked the TP2 feel, and software, but I also liked using SPB Mobileshell 3 on it, so I plan to use this on my HD.
Now, finally my question
I have never understood why I might want to put a custom ROM on my device. I have read all the guides, and the dummies guide, but although that helps me understand HOW to do it, not sure why I would WANT to do it?
I can understand for those people that have a horrible Orange branded one or something, but mine is standard 1.56.405.1 from HTC, unbranded.
So, I see that Custom ROM can have programs already in them, and they add features like the new TF3D on the TP2, which I liked, but since I am gonna use SPB MS3 is there any point?
Sorry if I sound like a total noob, I really am not (just flashed an Orange Samsung i8910 from and to Orange 4 times so I can follow these things), but in the case of the i8910, I could see why I would flash new ROM, to get rid of Orange crap, but here, just really confused.
Thanks in advance for any insight, if I have posted in wrong place, please point me to correct place.
Kev
I also use MS3 and have been wondering if it's worth upgrading to a new ROM as most are TFL3D.
I guess after upgrading to a new ROM that the provider details will need to be reset - but that's not a bigee as the OS looks up the details right ?
<draws up a chair>
A small list of pro's & con's below:
Pros:
- New features - A lot of new features first arrive on cooked roms like new touch flow interface from the new rhodium and topaz htc phones. Obviously most stock roms now have this, but originally they didn't. Without flashing, this wouldnt have been available.
- New manila which makes customization easier
- You can install new OSs such as windows mobile 6.5
- Various types of roms available, i.e. "lite" ROMs which have very little features and as a result are faster or "heavier" ROMs which tend to be a bit slower though gap in speed has dramatically decreased with newer versions.
- Have many features/apps already "cooked" into the ROM to save you installing them yourself after a hard reset
- Some have new drivers which improve performance.
- Some have custom interfaces
- Process isnt that hard once youve got hardspl/uspl sorted (and that gets easy after a short while too). its all run through an app on your computer with your HTC connected via activesync to your computer which is about as easy as installing a program (just click next, i agree etc.)
Con's
- Can take a bit of time to get used to the process. But once you have it becomes vry quick
- Need to use backup software as all your apps and contacts (everything on the main memory is wiped clean. Information on SD is left untouched). Recommend Sashimi, PIM Backup & SPB Backup.
If you use your HTC for more than just its basic features and want to get the most out of it, definately flash a new ROM. The performance increase is noticeable going from a stock ROM to a well cooked ROM. You'll have to use HSPL or USPL on your phone first. My mate cRaCKwHoRe has provided this excellent guide
new manila which makes customization easier, offers landscape all over, better speed all over, even under heavy stress....my absolute favourite, Start is no longer that ugly WinMo '90s look-a-like square drop down menu, it's a program launcher i can open from any tab, program, whatever, so it's oh so easy to open anything from anywhere in two very fast and smooth clicks
can't even remember does the stock have whole Facebook profile linking to Contacts profile, saving pic and birthday (which i then sync to Outlook, which syncs it to Calendar)....oh, manila calendar, the WinMo thing is just awful, i'd rather use pen and paper
the whole experience is much much prettier, more user friendly and faster at that....with every update there's less WM and more manila, which is what everyone probably wants (from HTC or generally) :/
OK, so Manila and TF3D are exactly the same thing?
So assuming this is true, all the stuff I could do on the TP2 I had would be doable on this Touch HD if I put a cooked ROM with Manila 2.5 on?
Kev
Fallen Spartan said:
A small list of pro's & con's below:
- Can take a bit of time to get used to the process. But once you have it becomes vry quick
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Thanks so much for taking the time to do that. I think I am getting.
As I ask someone else, Manila and TF3D are the same thing right?
So, this HardSpl and softSpl, I have read the guide, but am still not clear why I would use one over the other?
At first glance, it would make sense to only use Hard? Why might someone not want to do that?
Kev
huh, i use USPL because it's a small program you run, it takes about 10sec to load and you're done, ready to flash....HSPL seemed like more hassle to begin with and USPL is really easy and simple :/ somehow even if i flashed 10 times a day, i wouldn't really see a problem with just running USPL :/
manila 2.5 is leaked, not officially out on any phone, 2.1 is out on TP2....and 2.5 is bugged, probably just a fun thing to try, not really use daily and seriously....2.0 and 2.1 are your every day options, and yes, probably everything on TP2 is in some of the ROMs cooked for Touch HD
Ah, OK so USPL would be good for me as I do not intend to flash new ROM very often?
It seems HardSPL would be for people that would be flashing all the time?
I read the bit where you say you would use USPL even if flashing lots, but surely if you were, HardSPL would be better?
Ok, so forget 2.5 Manila then, (just saw a Video and thought it was common), look for ROM with 2.1?
What version do we have on stock HD?
Thanks for answering.
Kev
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Thanks so much for taking the time to do that. I think I am getting.
As I ask someone else, Manila and TF3D are the same thing right?
So, this HardSpl and softSpl, I have read the guide, but am still not clear why I would use one over the other?
At first glance, it would make sense to only use Hard? Why might someone not want to do that?
Kev
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HSPL is an user-modified SPL that you have to flash to your phone. It overwrites the existing SPL on your device with a "hacked" one so to say. It allows you to bypass the HTC certificate check and flash unsigned or CID-mismatching roms to your phone. You only have to flash it once and then you can flash roms anytime.
USPL is a temporary solution. It takes advantage of an exploit in the existing SPL and then loads a modified one to memory, effectively allowing the same thing as HSPL. However, since this is only memory-resident you have to do it each time you want to flash unsigned or CID-mismatching roms to your phone, because this exploited state is lost upon reboot. With USPL you must still have the right version of the HTC SPL that is compatible with the rom you want to use.
Basic difference is that HSPL is permanent and voids warranty and USPL is temporary and thus doesn't void warranty. However, once you use HSPL you can flash any radio & rom any time you want, but with USPL you need to reuse it before every flash to new radio or rom.
If you put HSPL on your device you can remove it by following procedure at bottom on first post in this thread.
There are 2 versions of HSPL, 1.14 & 1.56. Make sure you use the correct version for whatever rom you intend to flash to, i.e.
HSPL 1.56 is for roms based on 1.56+
HSPL 1.14 is for roms based on pre 1.56
kevwright said:
Ah, OK so USPL would be good for me as I do not intend to flash new ROM very often?
It seems HardSPL would be for people that would be flashing all the time?
I read the bit where you say you would use USPL even if flashing lots, but surely if you were, HardSPL would be better?
Ok, so forget 2.5 Manila then, (just saw a Video and thought it was common), look for ROM with 2.1?
What version do we have on stock HD?
Thanks for answering.
Kev
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Ok, go to settings tab in TF3D and scroll down to 'About'. It should state something like TouchFLO 3D 2.1.38147.5. I highlighted the version in bold i.e. In this case its manila version 2.1
Ok, I think I need to flash a ROM, as I am finding the Touch HD a little less exciting than the TP2 I just sent back.
I liked the TP2 but it was heavy and had no 3.5mm jack, but it seemed quite a bit faster than this HD. Screen seemed much brighter as well, is that possible?
Anyway, now I have decided, I really don't have a clue what ROM to use. I have been reading this site for the last 4 hours, and am no further forward.
Kev
I'm hoping to get some answers out of this thread as well Kev - without hijacking though
If I want to keep all my current program settings and the like, is there a foolproof method by which I can restore programs from a backup on my Stock rom, onto a newly flashed cooked ROM.
I am looking for the newer features of the latest manilla but I don't want to lose any of my current data and go through the process of reinstalling the programs again.
I have pimbackup so know that will be a synch!
lol, well, Dutty 3.9XT is a huge hit, i love it and think it should be made stock, so you can go with that one....i also tried Laurentis26 latest one and it was lightning fast and smooth and is based on TP2 ROM so that's another option
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537948
manila 2.1 can have an sms bug, not everyone has it, but even TP2 suffers from it and there's still no official HTC fix....some people can't send 2 sms in a row to a same person, i am one of them and that's why i stick to manila 2.0 :/
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I'm hoping to get some answers out of this thread as well Kev - without hijacking though
I have pimbackup so know that will be a synch!
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Hijack all you want mate, we will get better answers!
I want to flash before I get it all setup, and I need to hide my iPhone away, the screen is so much brighter than this HD :-(
I keep thinking though, all my old WM devices were based on standard software and SPB Pocket Plus, and I do like the standard today screen. With this in mind, how much will I benefit from a new ROM since they all seem to be based around really good inplementation of TF3D.
Kev
kevwright said:
Hijack all you want mate, we will get better answers!
I want to flash before I get it all setup, and I need to hide my iPhone away, the screen is so much brighter than this HD :-(
I keep thinking though, all my old WM devices were based on standard software and SPB Pocket Plus, and I do like the standard today screen. With this in mind, how much will I benefit from a new ROM since they all seem to be based around really good inplementation of TF3D.
Kev
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Although a lot of roms are based around good implementation of TF3D, they are also cutomized for speed, performance & stability of phone overall. So a cooked rom should out perform a stock rom in almost all categories
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Although a lot of roms are based around good implementation of TF3D, they are also cutomized for speed, performance & stability of phone overall. So a cooked rom should out perform a stock rom in almost all categories
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..and what about my particular question relating to restoration of stock rom backup (programs, not rom files obviously)
Just to add my own view to this as I have had the same dilemma in the past.
I stayed with stock....basically because I have quite a few apps installed on my device, and it seems that almost every other day updates are coming out to cooked ROMs to fix bugs, and it takes half a day to reinstall my apps and set them up. if ROM updates are coming out every few days I would spend half my life updating to the new one to fix a bug and then having to reinstall my apps.
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..and what about my particular question relating to restoration of stock rom backup (programs, not rom files obviously)
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am afraid there's no way to restore programs, they have to be reinstalled since flashing is just like hard reset/clear storage, deletes everything on the device (not the storage card) :/
also, with flashing you're upgrading manila and most other programs to latest released built, so you don't wanna restore old files as they might not work with newer versions :/
i use Outlook to re-sync my contacts and calendar and Microsoft MyPhone to restore sms messages....also have opera6.adr file on my storage card which i just copy into /Windows/Opera folder to restore my bookmarks....RSS Hub i set to use Storage Card for data, then it says i already have some settings there and asks do i want to overwrite, select no and i have my old channels set
rest i do by hand, but post-flash set up takes 30min once you get used to it :/ many programs/icons/stuff require a restart after installation, one just remembers which and does them one after the other and then, after you installed taskbar, clock, icons, s2u2, such, you do one restart and it's all done in minutes
@twisted-pixel: yes, it can happen that you flash weekly to correct bugs....however i'm on the same ROM now for month and a half, did flash last week, 3 times in a day, but i was bored and wanted to try out stuff went back to the same ROM again at the end of the day
I have NRGZ28's ENERGY ROM, its worth flashing it, if for nothing else, the SPEED. My HD had all the 'Orange' crap on it and it was so slow compared to how it is now....go ahead....FLASH!! (your rom, that is)
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am afraid there's no way to restore programs, they have to be reinstalled since flashing is just like hard reset/clear storage, deletes everything on the device (not the storage card) :/
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Just to update you all on this.
Throy's latest roms have included an auto-install for apps when flashing. I've tried this and it works a charm. See quote below.
Autoinstall thanks to my Good friend Tom: [ FAST and Fantastic.]Create folder in Root of Storage Card called [ Autoinstall ]
Copy all your cabs in that folder
After Flash , and during customisations all your cab will be installed.
Also set your cabs to read only
So get Your Storage Card prepared with all your Cabs to install.
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Only drawback on this is that all apps are installed onto main menu, so if you want any apps installed on your SD Card you will have to install them manually or alternatively use Sashimi backup which also auto-installs apps etc
Hi all,
Newbie here
EX iPhone 3g user now HD user
I would like to ask, is it possible to change the People Tab on the HD to one like on the Touch Pro2 as an example.
I would prefer to have squares of faces than the flip faces that there are now.
all the best...
Any help is appreciated.
chill.
If I understand you correctly, you are referring to the difference in Contact tabs between Manila 2.1 (also known as HTC's TouchFlo 3D), and Manila 2.5 (known as HTC Sense), which will come out on the new HTC devices such as the Leo (also known as the Touch HD2).
As far as I know, the only way to use the new interface is to flash a ROM that has Manila 2.5.
I currently use Dutty's Leo R6 with WM6.5 and Manila 2.5. I really like it.
You can find it here. You'll have to register to be able to download it.
BTW - Welcome to the forum!!!!!!
Thanks Chris Cross,
This is what I am looking for.
Hope I have explained it right.
Not sure what Manilla 2.1 or 2.5 are, but thanks.
If I was to install the Dutty rom, would I loose any features ? Could I return to Original rom if I needed ?
Sorry for too many questions..
chill....
Yes, that is a picture of Manila 2.5.
Okay, I'll explain what Manila is.
Windows Mobile phones have a generic windows interface. HTC came up with their own layout and called it Manila. The more common name was TouchFlo. First was TouchFlo 2D, then came TouchFlo 3D, and now the new one is called HTC Sense (I guess they wanted to change the name now. ). In terms of your phone, you will see that the name Manila is still used (for example in registry settings etc.).
So, when you start your phone, it automatically goes into the Manila layout from HTC. In other words, the whole concept of having the slider at the bottom which takes you to the different tabs (and each of their sub-menus) etc.. is the Manila interface. Other Windows Mobile phones that are not from HTC don't have that (unless they have tried to copy the concept).
So, Manila version 2.1 (=TouchFlo 3D) had a Contacts tab with the little slider on the right, to switch between contacts (or you could flip through them too). Now, Manila 2.5 (which ships with the new HTC phones) changed that layout to look like what you are referring to - i.e. the big square pictures. You see 9 right away, and if you flip up, then 6 more appear for a total of 15. That is just one of the layout changes that are new in Manila 2.5. You will also see a new change in the Home tab, where below the clock, you now have Quick Links. They also look like squares and you can link them to a contact or a program for quick access directly from the home tab. Like I said, there are several new changes like that in Manila 2.5
I'll leave it at that for now. I need to stop for a second, but I'll come back to this same post and give you some info on flashing a new rom.
EDIT: see post below for info on flashing roms
chill today said:
.... If I was to install the Dutty rom, would I loose any features ? Could I return to Original rom if I needed ?....
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Flashing a new rom means that you will completely erase the entire drive on the phone and you will install a brand new system. So... yes, you will lose everything that is in the internal storage (but not in the SD card).
You can go back to the rom your phone came with (referred to as a "stock" rom). To do that, you would have to flash (= install) the stock rom, and once again, you would lose everything you have at that point and you would end up with your phone as it came out of the box.
There is also backup software you can buy to backup all your programs, files etc.. in case you ever flash the stock rom again and you want things the way they are today. As far as I know, you cannot (or at least - should not) use that backup file on a rom other than the one that was installed when the backup file was created.
I have had my HD for 11 months. I flashed a new rom for the first time about 2 weeks after buying my HD. I think it is totally worth it. There are a lot of rom cooks out there that do a great job at making solid, stable roms. Dutty is definitely among the most well known and respected for the quality of work he does. He tries to keep his roms as close to stock as possible, but he makes changes that improve the speed and overall user-friendliness of the rom.
You do have to keep in mind, that if you flash a new rom with Manila 2.5 and Windows Mobile 6.5, some things might not work 100% right away because those are new releases. Dutty is constantly updating his rom to fix any known issues. Whenever an update is made, you flash that updated rom - and once again it means you lose your settings. But, the benefits of having a nicer rom outweigh the cons of having to set up your phone as you like it again. Eventually, the rom becomes really stable and you can go months without needing to flash anything.
If you are interested in flashing Dutty's new rom, let me know and I can give you links that explain how to do that.
All sounds very interesting. I'll chew on this a little.
Its not like I am unhappy with the HD, but just the People tab is a little frustrating to use.
I'll have a good look over at the roms section, and if I do give it a shot, I'll be knocking
I have flashed a HTC Touch before. A bit scary doing it, but went OK in the end.
The phone was freezing up, and was out of warrenty, so nowt to lose.
If its a similar process, then not to scary after all.
thanks
chill......
Yeah, it's the same thing. It's not too scary, but you just have to make sure you read about how to do it the first time, so that you don't make big mistakes. Technically, you could turn your phone into a brick (i.e. permanently dead), but that's really only if you somehow cut power to the phone during the process (e.g. if you unplug the cord or start with a low battery). If you just follow the steps - you'll be fine, and it will take about 10 minutes of actual flashing time. Once you have done it, you realize it is no big deal.
Check out the ROM threads - especially this tutorial!!! Depending on what type of ROM you have right now, you might need to do extra steps before flashing a newer version ROM. It is all explained in that tutorial. And Dutty's latest Leo R6 ROM can be found here. You can follow any developments or bug reports and fixes etc. regarding Dutty's Leo ROM in this thread.
Also, you might want to look and see if your stock ROM is available for download (in case you later want to go back to it - but I doubt you will). You can also go back to other stock ROMs if you want.
Just ask if you have questions.
Thanks a lot.
I've only been here 5 minutes and all this help. Nice place here.
There are Lots of Roms, so would need to chose carefully. I have been trying SPB Mobile Shell, which is quite nice. Not a full replacement rom, but a nice touch.
Thanks again, I will read on.
chill.......
Seems my question has been asked before.Contacts
Any freeware versions of a program similar.
chill......
chill today said:
Seems my question has been asked before.Contacts
Any freeware versions of a program similar.
chill......
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Since I've never used one, I am not too familiar with freeware for it. But, I did find this website. Their program "Avatar" might be what you are looking for. The author also has a thread for Avatar on XDA Forums. It definitely seems worth the try.
Thanks again Chris Cross,
I will try them today, cheers for the link.
chill......
Before people tell me to search the forums, that's what I've been doing for the longest time, trying every ROM on the Vogue forum. And before you tell me to try Android, I've done that too, and while I like it, I prefer Windows Mobile on this particular phone at the moment, but may put Android on it again sometime in the future.
The closest that I've found is NagROM V0.19 Touch, which is just a touch too basic. I'm looking for something like that, but with M2D and M2D Customiser, the HTC Cabs and Ringtones, the EZInput keyboard like in NFSFan's ROM, and Office 2007 or 2010. While I like the ROMs that come with other programs cooked in, such as Total Commander and PHM Registry Edit, I prefer the ROM coming without them so that when I go to install an updated version, I don't run into a problem. Too many times I've had problems installing a newer version of a program when it comes up telling me it has to uninstall the previous version, but can't, sometimes leaving me with just the old version, or both versions.
And before anyone says to cook my own, I've looked into guides, tried cooking my own, and the past few times I've tried, it wouldn't even boot up for the first time after flashing. I've tried numerous kitchens, some of which are supposed to be basic ones, perfect for beginners, but end up with one of a few problems: Not compatible with 64-bit windows, virus scanner blocks a crucial part, not meant for the Vogue, etc.
Basically what I'm asking is: Are there any basic ROMs with nothing more than M2D (and HTC cabs and Ringtones, and M2DC), EZInput, and Office Mobile 2007/2010 cooked in, or can someone HELP me with trying to cook my own (so that I can have it preconfigured for Verizon, MMS working and GPS set up)?
Hey, Ill cook you up a rom with the things you want. Should be done here in a little while!
Hey - that's a dev for you, man. Ask and ye shall receive!
I'd encourage you to hit barogi's donate link if he's got one.
Sent from my Full Android on Vogue using XDA App
mrkite38 said:
Hey - that's a dev for you, man. Ask and ye shall receive!
I'd encourage you to hit barogi's donate link if he's got one.
Sent from my Full Android on Vogue using XDA App
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Love to provide for the community! Im actually uploading the rom right now... As for donations, i dont have a link seeing how i am only 17 years old.
Anyways thanks for the kind words.
Here you go http://www.4shared.com/file/K700wk8F/23138_light_rom_upload.html
Build 23138 (Wm 6.5.3)
Code:
Includes:
M2d
M2dc
Office 2010
Ringtones
Htc apps
Ezinput
Other necessary stuff... such as Bluetooth..
Enjoy!
Barogi44 said:
Love to provide for the community! Im actually uploading the rom right now... As for donations, i dont have a link seeing how i am only 17 years old.
Anyways thanks for the kind words.
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17??! That explains the free time! keep up the good work!
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mrkite38 said:
17??! That explains the free time! keep up the good work!
Sent from my Full Android on Vogue using XDA App
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Yep 17
Thanks!!
Haha, wow. I never expected someone to actually make it fer me! I'll have to try it out tomorrow as it's late now. Also, what kitchen do you use, Barogi? I still do plan on learning. (I'm a mix of hands on learning and being shown/flat out told what to do for the first time or three lol). Also, I assume it is set up as a Generic ROM (without the provisioning cab, MMS cab and settingsh, and Registry settings for GPS)? Also, as time goes more things come to mind to be cooked in (hence wanting to learn how to cook a ROM personally, and slowly becoming less basic ) lol. Still, thanks, majorly. I'll let you know how it works out when I try it tomorrow =3
Oh, and what version of EZInput is cooked in? I know I said "like the one in NFSFan's ROM," but that's only because I was unsure of the version (which I know now is 1.5.)
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Haha, wow. I never expected someone to actually make it fer me! I'll have to try it out tomorrow as it's late now. Also, what kitchen do you use, Barogi? I still do plan on learning. (I'm a mix of hands on learning and being shown/flat out told what to do for the first time or three lol). Also, I assume it is set up as a Generic ROM (without the provisioning cab, MMS cab and settingsh, and Registry settings for GPS)? Also, as time goes more things come to mind to be cooked in (hence wanting to learn how to cook a ROM personally, and slowly becoming less basic ) lol. Still, thanks, majorly. I'll let you know how it works out when I try it tomorrow =3
Oh, and what version of EZInput is cooked in? I know I said "like the one in NFSFan's ROM," but that's only because I was unsure of the version (which I know now is 1.5.)
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I use ppckitchen.org Buildos 2.0.0 And yes it is generic meaning you will need a carrier cab, Once you do install your carrier cab everything should work such as mms and gps. As for Ezinput i actually use a newer version than Nfsfans its (pcarvalho_ezInput_2.1_QVGA). If you want some help with cooking your own rom, just install ppckitchen buildos 2.0.0 since thats the only one ive ever used and know how to use and then send me a message on whatever you need some help with! Also if you want something changed in the rom i have already made for you before you get a chance to build your own, just let me know and ill do it.
EDIT: Had posted the wrong link to ppckitchen its supposed to be ppckitchen.org not .com
Hope you like it.
Barogi44 said:
I use ppckitchen.org Buildos 2.0.0 And yes it is generic meaning you will need a carrier cab, Once you do install your carrier cab everything should work such as mms and gps. As for Ezinput i actually use a newer version than Nfsfans its (pcarvalho_ezInput_2.1_QVGA). If you want some help with cooking your own rom, just install ppckitchen buildos 2.0.0 since thats the only one ive ever used and know how to use and then send me a message on whatever you need some help with! Also if you want something changed in the rom i have already made for you before you get a chance to build your own, just let me know and ill do it.
EDIT: Had posted the wrong link to ppckitchen its supposed to be ppckitchen.org not .com
Hope you like it.
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PPCKitchen BuildOS 2.0.0 is what I was using as well. I've used enough generic ROMs to know how to get it all working, so that's simple to do. Was just curious about that. I've gotten one ROM working through there, but somehow ended up with the Windows Mobile 6.1 splash screen (even though I changed it lol.) I'll try out your ROM, and I"ll keep playing with BuildOS. Hopefully I can get the file size down, and figure out how to cook in my own things, not just what's listed on the build menu lol. I'm kind of a hands on learner, kind of need to be shown multiple times, so playing around with it (though will take MUCH longer) SHOULD help me figure it out, but I'll keep in mind to PM you if I have any questions.
Toddle said:
PPCKitchen BuildOS 2.0.0 is what I was using as well. I've used enough generic ROMs to know how to get it all working, so that's simple to do. Was just curious about that. I've gotten one ROM working through there, but somehow ended up with the Windows Mobile 6.1 splash screen (even though I changed it lol.) I'll try out your ROM, and I"ll keep playing with BuildOS. Hopefully I can get the file size down, and figure out how to cook in my own things, not just what's listed on the build menu lol. I'm kind of a hands on learner, kind of need to be shown multiple times, so playing around with it (though will take MUCH longer) SHOULD help me figure it out, but I'll keep in mind to PM you if I have any questions.
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Ok great!
Alright, I'm trying out the ROM, and so far it looks great. Just one slight thing... I see you put in PHM RegEdit (an add on program I said I prefer installing myself so that when I go to update it I don't run into problems lol) Other than that, so far it looks perfect. Now if I could figure out how to cook a ROM where it isn't bigger than the stock, with just a few add in things as I think of them that I use regularly (and cook it as a Verizon specific ROM) then yay. Time to start playing with BuildOS while setting up my phone again lol
Toddle said:
Alright, I'm trying out the ROM, and so far it looks great. Just one slight thing... I see you put in PHM RegEdit (an add on program I said I prefer installing myself so that when I go to update it I don't run into problems lol) Other than that, so far it looks perfect. Now if I could figure out how to cook a ROM where it isn't bigger than the stock, with just a few add in things as I think of them that I use regularly (and cook it as a Verizon specific ROM) then yay. Time to start playing with BuildOS while setting up my phone again lol
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Ahh sorry about that Its just one of those programs that i figured you might want but perhaps had forgotten to ask for
Also i realized that after i had uploaded the rom that i forgot to add the reg edit to fix the 2016 date error on sms messages... Not sure if that affects you on Verizon, because i do not get it on Bell.
If you want... I can give you a list of the necessary things you should put in your own roms to make it function to its fullest.. like all the necessary bluetooth items and such?
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Ahh sorry about that Its just one of those programs that i figured you might want but perhaps had forgotten to ask for
Also i realized that after i had uploaded the rom that i forgot to add the reg edit to fix the 2016 date error on sms messages... Not sure if that affects you on Verizon, because i do not get it on Bell.
If you want... I can give you a list of the necessary things you should put in your own roms to make it function to its fullest.. like all the necessary bluetooth items and such?
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It's alright, I think PHM is one of the ones that can be updated even if it's cooked in without any problems. And yes, the 2016 problem will affect me on Verizon. I had it happen to me on NagROM before, but already had the fix downloaded (someone made it into a cab) so I installed it to be on the safe side. As for the list of things to make it function to the fullest, please do. And if there is another way to contact you other than on here, can you tell me in PM? I'd like to contact you off of here for help with cooking a ROM. I've tried again, and it wouldn't even finish building this time. Out of about 8 times of cooking a ROM, it succeeded only once, but I forgot to compress it (this was before you made this ROM for me).
Also, slight problem, and quick question.
The problem is on M2D. The music tab. It says that it can't play the audio file and opens Windows Media Player. I haven't found anything on this yet and had it happen to me on a few ROMs. If it can't be fixed, that's fine, i can just take off the music tab (because I don't always slide along the bottom, I'll use the D-pad at times, and if other people play with my phone)
The question... Where can I find the default background for M2D? I changed the background using M2DC so it'll be on all the tabs, but you can't see the white text, so I wanna change it back until I find a different background.
Toddle said:
It's alright, I think PHM is one of the ones that can be updated even if it's cooked in without any problems. And yes, the 2016 problem will affect me on Verizon. I had it happen to me on NagROM before, but already had the fix downloaded (someone made it into a cab) so I installed it to be on the safe side. As for the list of things to make it function to the fullest, please do. And if there is another way to contact you other than on here, can you tell me in PM? I'd like to contact you off of here for help with cooking a ROM. I've tried again, and it wouldn't even finish building this time. Out of about 8 times of cooking a ROM, it succeeded only once, but I forgot to compress it (this was before you made this ROM for me).
Also, slight problem, and quick question.
The problem is on M2D. The music tab. It says that it can't play the audio file and opens Windows Media Player. I haven't found anything on this yet and had it happen to me on a few ROMs. If it can't be fixed, that's fine, i can just take off the music tab (because I don't always slide along the bottom, I'll use the D-pad at times, and if other people play with my phone)
The question... Where can I find the default background for M2D? I changed the background using M2DC so it'll be on all the tabs, but you can't see the white text, so I wanna change it back until I find a different background.
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Ill send you a pm with my cell number. Also I have always gotten that message when trying to use music tab. I dont think a fix has ever been mentioned... I know that it usually defaults to using audio manager and not the windows media player, perhaps that could be the problem?
The background... I think that you have to back up the default in M2DC before changing it in order to get it back, so that you can reload it. Just so you know, I don't use Manila at all on my phone, so im not quite sure how to fix many things on it. And remember that most issues are do to the fact that Manila is not made for our phones and has been ported over. But I will try my best to help you out.
Barogi44 said:
Ill send you a pm with my cell number. Also I have always gotten that message when trying to use music tab. I dont think a fix has ever been mentioned... I know that it usually defaults to using audio manager and not the windows media player, perhaps that could be the problem?
The background... I think that you have to back up the default in M2DC before changing it in order to get it back, so that you can reload it. Just so you know, I don't use Manila at all on my phone, so im not quite sure how to fix many things on it. And remember that most issues are do to the fact that Manila is not made for our phones and has been ported over. But I will try my best to help you out.
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I've had the music tab working before. I think NFSFan's ROM. And I'll just find a different background. I'll send you a text tomorrow before my class.
Toddle said:
I've had the music tab working before. I think NFSFan's ROM. And I'll just find a different background. I'll send you a text tomorrow before my class.
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Yeah NFSFAN always cooked Audiomanager into his roms... you could put it in your own as well and it probably would stop the error.
Barogi44 said:
Here you go http://www.4shared.com/file/K700wk8F/23138_light_rom_upload.html
Build 23138 (Wm 6.5.3)
Code:
Includes:
M2d
M2dc
Office 2010
Ringtones
Htc apps
Ezinput
Other necessary stuff... such as Bluetooth..
Enjoy!
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Barogi...can I hit you up for a more basic one that that? I need the lighted WM ROM there is. I basically need Windows Mobile 6.5.3 and that's it...no extras.
If you could make one that has everything removed except Windows (even ezinput, office, ringtones, htc apps, etc...then I would be very appreciate
Of course if you have a kitchen link I can do it myself - thanks !!
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any screen shots avail?
Hi all,
Since I was beta testing fxdj's 6.1 clean rom and different versions, I have created this thread. I have sent few feedbacks already in 6.5 thread but since that was cluttering too much for that particular ROM, I've decided to put everything here and if fxdj wants, he can continue his further developments and updates on this thread. I am happy to rename the thread if needed later on.
DOWNLOAD LINKS NOW AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO BETA-TEST THIS 6.1 ROM-IN-MAKING
All credit goes to:
Fxdj for cooking
Mangasora clean 6.1 rom
feropont's kitchen
So here is the feedback for 3 clean versions and 4th Version which is nearly release candidate 1.
Fxdj said: "Version 1 (click to download): Should have about 4MB more RAM, be stable but may be lagy?"
My beta test results are:
Flashed using fxdj sddl+ as .tsw file and it took 2 minutes to flash.
Boot status – Normal boot – no issues
Screen alignment – Very quick
Auto cab install – 35 seconds
[*]Issues: After cab installation, the phone soft-resets and then freezes at Green Welcomehead screen. Battery had to be pulled out in order to restart the phone.
[*]Issues: The home button does not take me back to my today screen. I am not sure if in 6.1 ROMs the home button is meant to take me out of any program and bring me to today screen. I am presuming ideally that is what it should do. But in this rom, it's not doing that.
Performed the hard reset once the phone was on
[*]RAM after hard reset: 151.07 mb
[*]ROM after hard reset: 330.12 mb
Comments: Works very fast. No lags, no hangs, no freezes, all programs work as normal. Wasn’t able to test the call quality, but since it’s radio 1600, it is the one that’s worked the best for me.
Fxdj said "Version 2 (click to download): Should have about 4MB more RAM, but I do not know it is stable in all conditions"
My beta test results are:
Flashed using fxdj sddl+ as .tsw file and it took 2 minutes to flash.
Boot status – Longer boot. ‘Toshiba’ logo stays for longer time, don’t get scared. It goes away in few more seconds.
Screen alignment – Very quick
Auto cab install – 25-30 seconds
[*]Issues: The home button does not take me back to my today screen. I am not sure if in 6.1 ROMs the home button is meant to take me out of any program and bring me to today screen. I am presuming ideally that is what it should do. But in this rom, it's not doing that.
Performed the hard reset once the phone was on
RAM after hard reset: 151.83 mb
[*]ROM after hard reset: 330.12 mb
Comments: Works very fast. No lags, no hangs, no freezes, all programs work as normal. Wasn’t able to test the call quality, but since it’s radio 1600, it is the one that’s worked the best for me. Although I don't see much difference between the first two versions, I think the second version is more snappier than first. The speed for both versions is outstanding.
Fxdj said: "Version 3 (click to download) is "connection" of both above. Should have about 8MB more ram"
My beta test results are:
Flashed using fxdj sddl+ as .tsw file and it took 2 minutes to flash.
Boot status – Normal boot
Screen alignment – Very quick
Auto cab install – 25-30 seconds
Issues: Home button issue again – it doesn’t take us to ‘today’ screen.
Performed the hard reset once the phone was on
RAM after hard reset: 155.61 mb
[*]ROM after hard reset: 330.12 mb
Comments: Works very fast. No lags, no hangs, no freezes, all programs work as normal. Wasn’t able to test the call quality, but since it’s radio 1600, it is the one that’s worked the best for me.
But, BUT – yes BUT : This version, seems a little only a tad slower than first 2. You can only notice this slowness when you have quite a few programs running. e.g. I had ALL the start menu apps running i.e. “MULTI-TASKING” and I found it only a little slow (in microseconds) – I won’t call it slow personally.
Fxdj said: "Version 4 (click to download) is fixed for SPB icons, is RAM optimized, has HTC menus, working home key"
My beta test results are:
Flashed using fxdj sddl+ as .tsw file and it took 4 minutes to flash.
Boot status – Normal boot
Screen alignment – Very quick
Auto cab install – nearly 2 minutes
Issues: SPB icons, still blank (same 3 icons) - see screenshot
Issues: HTC Menu - Since I've not used it so often, I might be wrong. But I think the start menu isn't displaying correctly- see screenshot
Issues: Your tweak icons are all in start menu. I have noticed they were in a folder generally in other versions - see screenshot
Performed the hard reset once the phone was on
RAM after hard reset: 145.85 mb
[*]ROM after hard reset: 295.97 mb
Comments: Home button fix works perfectly now! Works very fast. No lags, no hangs, no freezes, all programs work as normal. Wasn’t able to test the call quality, but since it’s radio 1600, it is the one that’s worked the best for me.
PLEASE NOTE:
I have followed a specific "safe" flashing procedure:
Hard reset current ROM
FLASH STOCK
Hard reset stock ROM
FLASH NEW ROM
Hard reset NEW ROM
Use it, test it, abuse it.
GO TO STEP 1
Reserved for screen shots etc.
It might be a good idea if users interested in a 6.1 ROM from fxdj, will come forward and show their interest here. Any suggestions for how the rom could be etc, would help fxdj to tweak further. Also big cooks like MIRO could tie-up with fxdj if possible to get some sort of sense (compressed one if possible) ROMs with 6.1 OS (with 155mb RAM to play, I think SENSE will flow smooooth!)
hi drupad2drupad,
thank you for opening this thread!
I am very interested in 6.1 ROMs as it seems that I get a much better battery life than with 6.5.x.
I would love a sense ROM with transcriber as an input method possible (the miro transcriber fix only works for 6.5.x ROMs).
Further it is maybe possible to somehow include a nicer built in lock screen. The problem here is that if you sync with exchange server the security policy forces you to use OS PIN lock screen of 6.1 and it is kinda ugly.
regards
drupad2drupad said:
Hi all,
Since I was beta testing fxdj's 6.1 clean rom and different versions, I have created this thread. I have sent few feedbacks already in 6.5 thread but since that was cluttering too much for that particular ROM, I've decided to put everything here and if fxdj wants, he can continue his further developments and updates on this thread. I am happy to rename the thread if needed later on.
PS: I am happy, very happy, to share the DOWLOAD LINKS with anyone and everyone who wants to test this for fxdj BUT, I will wait till fxdj confirms that he doesn't mind his work being shared. If he says he is OK, then I will add DOWNLOAD links for Beta-tests too
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Thanks a lot drupad !
Of course I do not mind anybody other test the roms so You can share the links. More tests - more knowledge whether any of the roms is worthy to deal with in the future.
It should be added , the roms are based on Mangasora clean 6.1 rom so thanks Him for this rom and
prepared in feropont's kitchen so thanks Him too for His kitchen.
drupad2drupad said:
So here is the feedback for 3 clean versions:
Fxdj said: "Version 1: Should have about 4MB more RAM, be stable but may be lagy?"
My beta test results are:
[*]Issues: After cab installation, the phone soft-resets and then freezes at Green Welcomehead screen. Battery had to be pulled out in order to restart the phone.
[*]Performed the hard reset once the phone was on
[*]RAM after hard reset: 151.07 mb
[*]ROM after hard reset: 330.12 mb
[*]Comments: Works very fast. No lags, no hangs, no freezes, all programs work as normal. Wasn’t able to test the call quality, but since it’s radio 1600, it is the one that’s worked the best for me.
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It is well known problem of home button in my roms . I guess I can fix it in the same way ( in any of these three roms ) I did it for my WM6.5 roms. I think there is something with OEM packages, I partially cleaned up few months ago when I started my adventures with tg01.
I am really astonished this version freezes. I hoped it would worked the best
It was one time freeze or every time it freezes ?
So we have 3 versions and question which should be the base for adding some software ( of course SPB shell as a first ).
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Thanks a lot drupad !
Of course I do not mind anybody other test the roms so You can share the links. More tests - more knowledge whether any of the roms is worthy to deal with in the future.
It should be added , the roms are based on Mangasora clean 6.1 rom so thanks Him for this rom and
prepared in feropont's kitchen so thanks Him too for His kitchen.
It is well known problem of home button in my roms . I guess I can fix it in the same way ( in any of these three roms ) I did it for my WM6.5 roms. I think there is something with OEM packages, I partially cleaned up few months ago when I started my adventures with tg01.
I am really astonished this version freezes. I hoped it would worked the best
It was one time freeze or every time it freezes ?
So we have 3 versions and question which should be the base for adding some software ( of course SPB shell as a first ).
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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The freeze with version 1 was only for once. It followed cab install process after flash. Once I removed battery and started my phone again, everything was normal then on. I re-flashed it later on, and then the problem was gone. Hence I dont think it was anything to do with the ROM. May be a bad flash? or me being impatient?
If I was to choose from all 3 version, I would choose definitely the ver3 as it's got highest FREE RAM. So when we use TF3D or SPB MS, we still would have plenty of free RAM. But it will be interesting to see if two things can be solved before:
a) home button (for which you already know the solution)
b) The 3 missing icons in settings after we install SPB MS on 6.1 ROMs. It's not just this rom, but all other 6.1 ROMs too, that when we intall SPB MS, the 3 icons in settings don't appear. This makes it 'appear' less functional.
I have tried SPB Shell in ver3 today and everything works perfectly normal. There is no lag as such, but I still feel it to be less smoother than ver 2.
Ver 2. was the smoothest in operation even with SPB MS on it. But since SPB is taking up to 12-14mb RAM when used with 3D acceleration, I think having extra RAM on ver 3. is beneficial.
drupad2drupad said:
b) The 3 missing icons in settings after we install SPB MS on 6.1 ROMs. It's not just this rom, but all other 6.1 ROMs too, that when we intall SPB MS, the 3 icons in settings don't appear. This makes it 'appear' less functional.
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Could You give me more details because I have only heard about mentioned problems but I do not know what is exactly on :
1) Mentioned 3 icons disappear after SPB Shell installation at all or rather we have three "standard" settings icons ( gears icons or similar )
2) For what settings are the icons responsible for ?
Because I like clunky methods to solve this or other problems, maybe I would be able to do any kind of patch.
drupad2drupad said:
I have tried SPB Shell in ver3 today and everything works perfectly normal. There is no lag as such, but I still feel it to be less smoother than ver 2.
Ver 2. was the smoothest in operation even with SPB MS on it. But since SPB is taking up to 12-14mb RAM when used with 3D acceleration, I think having extra RAM on ver 3. is beneficial.
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Yes, it may be true and caused by other way of increasing of RAM.
It would be good any other person(s) test it but even if we not await any additiona tests, I will release cooked rom but people do not complain then, if any problems occure
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
drupad2drupad said:
b) The 3 missing icons in settings after we install SPB MS on 6.1 ROMs. It's not just this rom, but all other 6.1 ROMs too, that when we intall SPB MS, the 3 icons in settings don't appear. This makes it 'appear' less functional.
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I checked it under simulator. I installed there SPB Shell 3.5.5. WM6.1 was so called
"WM 6.1 professional"
What I noticed is :
1)
a) In pure system settings->system we have 15 icons
b) In settings->system under SPB we have 14 icons. There is no icon "Encryption" available in pure system settings
2)
a) In pure system settings->personal we have 8 icons
b) In settings->personal under SPB we have 8 icons too
3)
a) In pure system settings->connections we have 6 icons
b) In settings->connections under SPB we have 5 icons. There is no "USB to PC" available in pure system settings.
So I can see 2 not 3 missed icons. Are above missed icons the same as in real not simulated WM 6.1 ?
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
I checked it under simulator. I installed there SPB Shell 3.5.5. WM6.1 was so called
"WM 6.1 professional"
What I noticed is :
1)
a) In pure system settings->system we have 15 icons
b) In settings->system under SPB we have 14 icons. There is no icon "Encryption" available in pure system settings
2)
a) In pure system settings->personal we have 8 icons
b) In settings->personal under SPB we have 8 icons too
3)
a) In pure system settings->connections we have 6 icons
b) In settings->connections under SPB we have 5 icons. There is no "USB to PC" available in pure system settings.
So I can see 2 not 3 missed icons. Are above missed icons the same as in real not simulated WM 6.1 ?
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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Hi,
The icons we are missing are:
System,
Personal and
Connection
The main icons. We get a text that says "system", "Personal" and "connection"
but on top of them, it's just empty space. When you hit that space, it takes us to respective sub-menus in SPB.
I guess it might be because 'system', 'personal' and 'connection' are 3 different tabs on normal 6.1 ROMS and hence have no icons of their own anyway.
drupad2drupad said:
Hi,
The icons we are missing are:
System,
Personal and
Connection
The main icons. We get a text that says "system", "Personal" and "connection"
but on top of them, it's just empty space. When you hit that space, it takes us to respective sub-menus in SPB.
I guess it might be because 'system', 'personal' and 'connection' are 3 different tabs on normal 6.1 ROMS and hence have no icons of their own anyway.
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I understand now. We have submenus but main three icons are absent - only texts say us what we have either "system" or "personal" or "connections".
Under simulator it looks better because instead any nice icon I have directory symbol connected with gear symbol. The same for all 3 mentioned icons.
So only problem seems to be how to change :
1) texts in Your case
2) this gear and directory symbols in simulator case
on any nice icons we want.
I will try to see what I can do with it. If under simulator it go ok, it should go ok in real system too.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
I understand now. We have submenus but main three icons are absent - only texts say us what we have either "system" or "personal" or "connections".
Under simulator it looks better because instead any nice icon I have directory symbol connected with gear symbol. The same for all 3 mentioned icons.
So only problem seems to be how to change :
1) texts in Your case
2) this gear and directory symbols in simulator case
on any nice icons we want.
I will try to see what I can do with it. If under simulator it go ok, it should go ok in real system too.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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Yes that's the exact problem!
I am more than happy to test version 4 with these changes, your magic and SPB Shell installed Also, is it possible to not have 'happy face' implementation and instead a 'black patch' that matches task bar colour? That way, even if by mistake a user was to click that top right corner, it would do nothing at all (in background obviously it will show this 'black patch' instead of smiley face).
This http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=580568 shows a taskbar where such patch is applied. As I know you like making your own, but if not, you could cook this patch in.
OR
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=812337
By doing this, you will more or less create a 'SPB ROM' - but with your 'double tap' implementation - it will be safe for users to still get start menu back if they tap twice on top left corner.
drupad2drupad said:
Yes that's the exact problem!
I am more than happy to test version 4 with these changes, your magic and SPB Shell installed Also, is it possible to not have 'happy face' implementation and instead a 'black patch' that matches task bar colour? That way, even if by mistake a user was to click that top right corner, it would do nothing at all (in background obviously it will show this 'black patch' instead of smiley face).
This http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=580568 shows a taskbar where such patch is applied. As I know you like making your own, but if not, you could cook this patch in.
OR
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=812337
By doing this, you will more or less create a 'SPB ROM' - but with your 'double tap' implementation - it will be safe for users to still get start menu back if they tap twice on top left corner.
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Hi drupad.
I did some experiment under simulator and changed "personal" icon ( gear + directory 'book' ) to other icon so I think that in real system there should be no any problems with it. I only have to find nice .png icons for "personal", "connections" and "system".
Maybe You can give me them ? I do not like to deal with graphic, brrrrr .
What concerns "face" , I explained You few weeks ago in any other thread that "face" is absolutely not needed in 6.1 so I am not going to use it at all. As people say, locking WM start menu in WM6.1 gives nothing as far as increase of RAM amount is concerned so why utilize it at all ? Apart from SPB menu we will "get" natural simple menu . If anyone does not want to have such menu it can be "mapped" to SPB menu as I know , in SPB shell settings. Maybe I did not quite understand Your concept ?
Rest of my software will be applied of course.
What do You think about HTC enlarge menu here ? You know my attitude to HTC but as You know I fixed existing htc enlarge menu .cab ( so can treat it as my software ) and can apply it as a .cab to all my .cab files in auto cab install.
I hope my explanations make You pleased
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fxdjacentyfxd
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Hi drupad.
I did some experiment under simulator and changed "personal" icon ( gear + directory 'book' ) to other icon so I think that in real system there should be no any problems with it. I only have to find nice .png icons for "personal", "connections" and "system".
Maybe You can give me them ? I do not like to deal with graphic, brrrrr .
What concerns "face" , I explained You few weeks ago in any other thread that "face" is absolutely not needed in 6.1 so I am not going to use it at all. As people say, locking WM start menu in WM6.1 gives nothing as far as increase of RAM amount is concerned so why utilize it at all ? Apart from SPB menu we will "get" natural simple menu . If anyone does not want to have such menu it can be "mapped" to SPB menu as I know , in SPB shell settings.
Rest of my software will be applied of course.
What do You think about HTC enlarge menu here ? You know my attitude to HTC but as You know I fixed existing htc enlarge menu .cab ( so can treat it as my software ) and can apply it as a .cab to all my .cab files in auto cab install.
I hope my explanations make You pleased
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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Hi fxdj!
Yes that all makes sense! I keep forgetting that winmo start menu saves nothing on 6.1 !!
It would be real treat to get those 3 icons. Could it be used from 6.5 ROM? Because 6.5 rom has 3 icons for these. That way it might save you time from re-sizing etc.
I also wanted to ask you if you cook 0321 version generally for your ROMs or do you prefer 1600? I was reading through radio changing kitchen thread and couldn't figure out if 0321 was giving best call quality over all for everyone.
HTC Enlarge menu_fxdjmod - Yes!! That will save us from coming across any small icons at all!! There is a 'today theme' that makes the actual line spacing in 6.1 a bit more finger friendly. I will try to dig that cab for you and put some screen shots. That will go well with HTC Enlarge menu. That will give us an option to change 'today theme' + make overall 6.1 icons smoother and finger friendly like 6.5 but won't affect the speed and RAM.
drupad2drupad said:
It would be real treat to get those 3 icons. Could it be used from 6.5 ROM? Because 6.5 rom has 3 icons for these. That way it might save you time from re-sizing etc.
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I will see whether these are free files or rather icons in any dll(s)
drupad2drupad said:
I also wanted to ask you if you cook 0321 version generally for your ROMs or do you prefer 1600? I was reading through radio changing kitchen thread and couldn't figure out if 0321 was giving best call quality over all for everyone.
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I utilized 321 radio in the past but now I have 1600.
321 the best ? Hard to say . Some people have GPS problems with it
and I can ensure You it is buggy as far as battery charging is concerned.
I wrote about it in my WM6.5 thread. Even with orignal battery driver
user can not see any progress in charging. Only after system restart one can see that battery has been charged. Anyway, like in case of my 6.5 rom I can issue it with two radios - 321 and 1600
drupad2drupad said:
HTC Enlarge menu_fxdjmod - Yes!! That will save us from coming across any small icons at all!! There is a 'today theme' that makes the actual line spacing in 6.1 a bit more finger friendly. I will try to dig that cab for you and put some screen shots. That will go well with HTC Enlarge menu. That will give us an option to change 'today theme' + make overall 6.1 icons smoother and finger friendly like 6.5 but won't affect the speed and RAM.
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Ok, so I will apply HTC enlarge .cab
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Already extracted needed .png files
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fxdjacentyfxd
Hi.
drupad is my main tester and I sent Him today cooked rom for tests.
It should have the same functionality as my 6.5 rom. If anybody want to test it too ( maybe 3-pin methods will be required ) please let me know so I will publish link to it. drupad also has my permission to give link to anyone who will want it.
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fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Hi.
drupad is my main tester and I sent Him today cooked rom for tests.
It should have the same functionality as my 6.5 rom. If anybody want to test it too ( maybe 3-pin methods will be required ) please let me know so I will publish link to it. drupad also has my permission to give link to anyone who will want it.
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fxdjacentyfxd
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Thanks for version 4 fxdj..
Version 4 is completely safe to flash.
I have updated feedback in post 1.
SCREENSHOTS now attached.
drupad2drupad said:
Thanks for version 4 fxdj..
Version 4 is completely safe to flash.
I have updated feedback in post 1.
SCREENSHOTS now attached.
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Thanks drupad.
It seems it is time I have to flash it myself so that to fix found errors
but I will see maybe it will not be needed.
But as I can see from screenshots, system menu seems to be enlarged ? Start menu is not displayed correctly
because in my oppinion I did mistake and one can see my three directories in the start menu not original items.
I can also see that software that should be in separate directories is all in "programs".
I can see files from my "WOWHD" directory and my "Tools" directory. What about "Power" directory ? Is it absent too
and its files are in programs directory like other files ?
And what about Your feelings ? Is this rom prospective and worthy to deal with it to fix it ? It seems the forum dies
Anyway, people will be very pleased because of free RAM
Can I ask You about whole rom registry ( via fdcTaskManager ) ? Maybe I will find there some answers .
Maybe I will be able to prepare something before 16:00 so that You could test it - if You feel like of course
And finally, could You execute fxdjWM61SPBIconsSettingsFix.exe You have in \windows directory ? Tell me two things
after execution:
1) Did the software display any warning/error message
2) If it did not display anything , check whether "three settings" have still only descriptions without icons.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Thanks drupad.
It seems it is time I have to flash it myself so that to fix found errors
but I will see maybe it will not be needed.
But as I can see from screenshots, system menu seems to be enlarged ? Start menu is not displayed correctly
because in my oppinion I did mistake and one can see my three directories in the start menu not original items.
I can also see that software that should be in separate directories is all in "programs".
I can see files from my "WOWHD" directory and my "Tools" directory. What about "Power" directory ? Is it absent too
and its files are in programs directory like other files ?
And what about Your feelings ? Is this rom prospective and worthy to deal with it to fix it ? It seems the forum dies
Anyway, people will be very pleased because of free RAM
Can I ask You about whole rom registry ( via fdcTaskManager ) ? Maybe I will find there some answers .
Maybe I will be able to prepare something before 16:00 so that You could test it - if You feel like of course
And finally, could You execute fxdjWM61SPBIconsSettingsFix.exe You have in \windows directory ? Tell me two things
after execution:
1) Did the software display any warning/error message
2) If it did not display anything , check whether "three settings" have still only descriptions without icons.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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The 'power' directly comes as it self but not as an icon in 'Programs'. Its as an item in start menu.
I have attached whole start menu in screenshots with this one. You will notice that you can't see these icons when using without SPB. You can only see your 'loose' icons in Programs when we see through SPB menu.
In another screenshot - you can see that there is no 'fxdjWM61SPBIconsSettingsFix.exe ' file in /Windows directory. Could this be the reason why the icons are missing? May be it din't cook the file?
Let me know what you need to do with the Registry and I will attach screenshots for them too!
What worries me is the absence of everyone in the forum. I am getting a feeling that this forum is dying slowly. Probably because it's 'upgrade' time for most users and everyone is moving to different handsets (hopefully not iPhones!) I have my upgrade due in few weeks too but I will be around in forums from time to time as I've literally loved TG01 since day 1!
radio 321 is the best, reasonable for uk compared to the other official ROMs. Good luck
drupad2drupad said:
The 'power' directly comes as it self but not as an icon in 'Programs'. Its as an item in start menu.
I have attached whole start menu in screenshots with this one. You will notice that you can't see these icons when using without SPB. You can only see your 'loose' icons in Programs when we see through SPB menu.
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Yes, I think it is my mistake. Intersting that what worked under 6.5 ( I mean copy to created directory ) does not work here but I fixed it. I hope
drupad2drupad said:
In another screenshot - you can see that there is no 'fxdjWM61SPBIconsSettingsFix.exe ' file in /Windows directory. Could this be the reason why the icons are missing? May be it din't cook the file?
Let me know what you need to do with the Registry and I will attach screenshots for them too!
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Exactly ! Two files ( maybe ) are missing. One fxdjWM61SPBIconsSettingsFix.exe in \windows directory and fxdjWM61SPBIconsSettingsFix.lnk in \windows\startup directory ( can You check it ? ). I have problems with dsmeditor so maybe it is why it did not add the files to .dsm file.
I will do needed fixes tomorrow and I hope this version will be correct at last and I will be able to create new thread
and because I found my USB cable I will flash it too. Who knows, maybe it will be my favourite rom not 6.5.
I liked ffboy's 6.1 maybe I will like it too.
drupad2drupad said:
What worries me is the absence of everyone in the forum. I am getting a feeling that this forum is dying slowly. Probably because it's 'upgrade' time for most users and everyone is moving to different handsets (hopefully not iPhones!) I have my upgrade due in few weeks too but I will be around in forums from time to time as I've literally loved TG01 since day 1!
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Yes, it is what I said some day that without enthusiasm of drupad and Oly this forum would die. On the other hand, many people seem to have their tg01 from relatively short time. Unfortunately, many people have them bricked irreversibly.
BTH. Is the upper bar "original" ? I mean it is the same as in Toshiba WM 6.1 system ? Mangasora ported sys from xx56 to xx57 and as I remember my tests of His rom, I did not like it too much. Is it possible to change upper bar to the same I have in WM 6.5 ?
I would not like to install any "android like" and others.
And why You do not like iPhone ? I do not like too it because .... I do not like it . The same as HTC software...
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Yes, I think it is my mistake. Intersting that what worked under 6.5 ( I mean copy to created directory ) does not work here but I fixed it. I hope
Exactly ! Two files ( maybe ) are missing. One fxdjWM61SPBIconsSettingsFix.exe in \windows directory and fxdjWM61SPBIconsSettingsFix.lnk in \windows\startup directory ( can You check it ? ). I have problems with dsmeditor so maybe it is why it did not add the files to .dsm file.
I will do needed fixes tomorrow and I hope this version will be correct at last and I will be able to create new thread
and because I found my USB cable I will flash it too. Who knows, maybe it will be my favourite rom not 6.5.
I liked ffboy's 6.1 maybe I will like it too.
Yes, it is what I said some day that without enthusiasm of drupad and Oly this forum would die. On the other hand, many people seem to have their tg01 from relatively short time. Unfortunately, many people have them bricked irreversibly.
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fxdjacentyfxd
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more people will still visit the forum. i have been here from the very start when the roms were first made. the forum use to be very big then! but it has shrunk considerably. if you take a quick look at the hd2 forum, see how big it is! there are always 1000+ people browsing the hd2 forums at a time! (view at xda index) many other forums have large support aswell! soon my tg01 can become my flashing phone when i get a new one, so i'll be able to beta test.. i was actually going to order my Desire S on sunday, but o2 changed the tariffs round...
but soon i can test for all cooks but as you know fxdj.. i am busy these few weeks