WIFI Proxy? - Hero, G2 Touch General

Is it possible to set-up proxy for wifi? at school we are using proxy to use the internet. i'm not a iphone fan but its really easy on the iphone and would like to know if it was possible with hero/android
if this is not possible will it come later to android?

Check this out:
http://code.google.com/p/proxysetting/
It appears to be an app that will do it for you. It might be on the market too, I haven't checked. Just did a quick google search and it was the first thing that came up.

Why isnt it build in? Will it be build in with later releases of android?
I will look at the link maybe i will find something great

That should do the trick, that is exactly what I'm searching for!!
I'll test it at work tomorrow and let you know if it worked, I allready set the proxy, really simple prog to work with. I REALLY hope it works.

Hmm, the programme doesnt do anything. Still cant connect to the internet. Anybody got other suggestions..?

Trenchor said:
Hmm, the programme doesnt do anything. Still cant connect to the internet. Anybody got other suggestions..?
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Your phone may need to be rooted for this to work... that's just a shot in the dark. As soon as I get my Hero (yeah, I'm trolling the forums before Telus even has them in stock) that's the first thing I'm gonna do, but some people are more cautious, so it's up to you if you wanna bother rooting your phone on the off chance that it'll get the app I linked to work.
EDIT: My bad, if you check the "issues" page on the site, you'll see that it hasn't been updated to work on cupcake. :/

will there be proxy settings in donut?

commodoor said:
will there be proxy settings in donut?
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It's hard to say. I found this "complete" list of donut features:
http://www.betanews.com/article/Android-Donut-SDK-released-Whats-new-inside/1253057624
I wouldn't be surprised if the inclusion of full VPN support also brought proxy settings with it, but it's hard to say.

Thnx for the article, its great.

Is the new version (donut) already released? Or when will that be?
Oh yeah, how will Hero users be able to work with the new version of android?
Because we got htc 'sense' above android, so I guess HTC also has to release a new version of the 'sense'??

Trenchor said:
Is the new version (donut) already released? Or when will that be?
Oh yeah, how will Hero users be able to work with the new version of android?
Because we got htc 'sense' above android, so I guess HTC also has to release a new version of the 'sense'??
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Yes, donut was released on September 15th, but there are no phones that come with 1.6 on them. The CLIQ is supposed to be the first one, I think. Cupcake applications are expected to run on Donut, so I see no reason why a Hero update (both official and non-official) wouldn't be too far down the road.
I don't have a Hero yet, but I've been running Android on my Vogue for over a year now, and last week I actually ran a Donut build. It's very nice, although the vogue build is missing a lot of apps, like GMail, and contacts don't sync, so it's not really feasible for us to use until more development is done on it.

donut wasn't released but the SDK. with SDK can developers edit(if its needed) their programs to make it work in donut or just test it before the donut comes out. htc will make there sensui work in donut because it would be there shell for android and wanna us it with new htc android phones. but if it comes to hero i don't know i hope so or i will feel like i left behind.
sensui is nice but i think it slows down the phone but thats what i think. i would prefer the speed above sensui.

commodoor said:
donut wasn't released but the SDK. with SDK can developers edit(if its needed) their programs to make it work in donut or just test it before the donut comes out. htc will make there sensui work in donut because it would be there shell for android and wanna us it with new htc android phones. but if it comes to hero i don't know i hope so or i will feel like i left behind.
sensui is nice but i think it slows down the phone but thats what i think. i would prefer the speed above sensui.
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Yes and no... the SDK is what was officially released on the 15th yes, but google has been adding donut into the android source tree for a while now. The SDK includes a donut system image to run in the emulator, and which can also run on phones (as this is what I've run on my vogue) but of course is missing several google apps. The market and youtube are included though. The source for donut is all in the git tree along with cupcake and... 1.0, whatever its codename is. It's just up to phone manufacturers to take the source and build specific images for their devices at this point, although I'm sure google still has updates to add to it as well.

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Cupcake eating my donut!

I managed to build Donut source tree for Dream. But the stupid thing shows Cupcake 1.5 in the phone settings.
Any idea why?
donut is almost identical to cupcake, for now.
vishurao said:
I managed to build Donut source tree for Dream. But the stupid thing shows Cupcake 1.5 in the phone settings.
Any idea why?
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So you have flash in the browser
Yeah, there hasn't been any work done in the donut branch yet. So, at the moment, it's the same code as 1.5
nabzilla1990 said:
So you have flash in the browser
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Build is broken for the browser. I was getting a lot of compilation errors. Didnt look that deep into it. Just removed browser app from build structure.
you got any update for us to see or some pic
Smokuevo said:
you got any update for us to see or some pic
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First thing i saw was Settings->About Phone.
It said Firmware Version 1.5. Build number 1.5 Cupcake.
i didnt take another second to flash Jf1.5. took me 1 whole day to solve compilation issues and saw 1.5 cupcake in the end.
Words like "cupcake" and "donut" are not equivalent to version numbers like 1.5 and 2.0. They are moving targets. As noted above, if you download donut today, you will get nearly the same code as cupcake.
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Words like "cupcake" and "donut" are not equivalent to version numbers like 1.5 and 2.0. They are moving targets. As noted above, if you download donut today, you will get nearly the same code as cupcake.
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Then whats the fuzz about Magic using donut?
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Then whats the fuzz about Magic using donut?
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You've been reading too many rumors.
2.0 IS a far way away. The hype lately is not for it. The Hype is for the HTC Hero Port by Haykuro. The 1.5 Cupcake build has new UI and New cosmetic updates that the community would love to see.
DeadPhoenix said:
2.0 IS a far way away. The hype lately is not for it. The Hype is for the HTC Hero Port by Haykuro. The 1.5 Cupcake build has new UI and New cosmetic updates that the community would love to see.
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Not to mention FLASHPLAYER!!!
frim what i had seen of the build timeline, it apears that 2.0 may actualy get skiped, there currently working on 3.0
i didnt find a flashplayer change in the browsers tree? http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/packages/apps/Browser.git;a=summary
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i didnt find a flashplayer change in the browsers tree? http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/packages/apps/Browser.git;a=summary
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Cos there is none? Just because someone casually mentions "flash player" doesn't mean anything of the sort is in. In fact, id say these days a good 90% of the posted content on Dream android dev is just noise. A waste of bandwidth. A load of horse sh-t. etc etc.
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i didnt find a flashplayer change in the browsers tree? http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/packages/apps/Browser.git;a=summary
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That's because Google didn't add flashplayer, HTC did. The source tree is the open source code from Google. I'm talking about the closed source version that HTC is working on, on there own, for the HTC Hero. Improvements made by outside companies won't show up in the Google source tree.
here's' your flash player live and on a G1 like you want
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghIGj9r3_vc&feature=player_embedded
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Cos there is none? Just because someone casually mentions "flash player" doesn't mean anything of the sort is in. In fact, id say these days a good 90% of the posted content on Dream android dev is just noise. A waste of bandwidth. A load of horse sh-t. etc etc.
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It was more than a casual mention and rumors. It was stated directly by HAYKURO, hence the excitement. But don't take my word for it:
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hmph. i find it rather annoying that you guys are listening to this forum that is simply using a completely pre-alpha build i provided to give you guys feedback.
the browser they have in that build has the flash player libraries, if you run the browser test, flash is supported.
the profile (which i posted earlier) does not mention flash, thus websites doesn't believe we have flash. above that, the browser.apk is INCOMPLETE as i've been saying.
flash IS supported, and WILL work, as soon as i receive the tutorial build.
please stop posting rumors discovered on any other website. unless it is stated directly by me, Darkrift, or anyone else who is officially testing my latest roms.
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testing567 said:
It was more than a casual mention and rumors. It was stated directly by HAYKURO, hence the excitement. But don't take my word for it:
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That flash plugin is a HTC product, not a part of the AOSP. I'm referring to rumors of flash in the AOSP, although frankly we haven't seen anything promising about the HTC flash plugin either, aside from a screenshot of the plugin directory.

2.1 SDK Released

http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.1.html
2.1 SDK is out. Progress.
Good news.
We'll need the source before we can take advantage of it as the 2.01 audio libs don't work at all... And for anyone wondering, livewallpapers runs extremely slow and is not worth using yet.
Isn't the source available on AOSP? I thought I saw it the other day when picking through the tree?
Audio works I'm running it right now. It's pretty much the same as 2.0.1 with the addition of livewallpapers. The new launcher isn't included. Most likely because the emulator can't handle the graphics.
http://cid-26b659bcabad8994.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/2.1-SDK-Vogue.zip It's just a generic sdk build with no Google apps. Livewalls works but is slow like mssmision said. Give me a couple and I'll see what I can add.
2.1 wow! ...a while ago i made the switch from sprint to vzw & i have been off of my vogue for some time, but am now back to it -i figured out how to get it running on vzw I am looking forward to playing with all the new changes since i have been away!!
Do you think 2.1 will ever become usable on our vogues? or just bits & pieces like past upgrades?? i.e. especially google gps beta -i used that with the droid and it is incredible!
it's neat to see the familiar faces are still around this forum
btw, what do you guys think is the fastest/most stable version right now for me to use? (been away since november!!!)
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Audio works I'm running it right now. It's pretty much the same as 2.0.1 with the addition of livewallpapers. The new launcher isn't included. Most likely because the emulator can't handle the graphics.
http://cid-26b659bcabad8994.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/2.1-SDK-Vogue.zip It's just a generic sdk build with no Google apps. Livewalls works but is slow like mssmision said. Give me a couple and I'll see what I can add.
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That sucks about the launcher... How do we go about getting that? And is the little card preview thing for the home pages included?
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That sucks about the launcher... How do we go about getting that? And is the little card preview thing for the home pages included?
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Nope just the livewallpaper.
adeyo said:
2.1 wow! ...a while ago i made the switch from sprint to vzw & i have been off of my vogue for some time, but am now back to it -i figured out how to get it running on vzw I am looking forward to playing with all the new changes since i have been away!!
Do you think 2.1 will ever become usable on our vogues? or just bits & pieces like past upgrades?? i.e. especially google gps beta -i used that with the droid and it is incredible!
it's neat to see the familiar faces are still around this forum
btw, what do you guys think is the fastest/most stable version right now for me to use? (been away since november!!!)
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you could try the new improved tattoo build or any of the donut builds. they should have the new google maps with navigation. if not you can update maps from market. there is also a 2.0.1 build which is almost the same as 2.1. google has already stated that the 2.1 sdk only has minor api changes.
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Nope just the livewallpaper.
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That's a shame. There should be a Nexus dump the launcher could be pulled from? Think the graphics involved would slow us down too much?
TheKartus said:
That's a shame. There should be a Nexus dump the launcher could be pulled from? Think the graphics involved would slow us down too much?
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I had the nexus launcher running on 2.0.1 but it's slow and crashes way to much for normal use.
as well the new gallery3d has issues because of gl stuff.. It works, it's slow, and thumbs don't always display.
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you could try the new improved tattoo build or any of the donut builds. they should have the new google maps with navigation. if not you can update maps from market. there is also a 2.0.1 build which is almost the same as 2.1. google has already stated that the 2.1 sdk only has minor api changes.
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Thanks Zen! ...i didn't realize there was a 2.0.1 functioning build out. I don't really care about the minor api changes. I will go do some digging and try out that build! it's fun to be back
AOSP repo is pulling down master/eclair right now, I'm watching it update platform/packages/wallpapers/magicsmoke,musicvisualization, etc.
I'm not entirely sure how to do so, but can't we compile this as a build for Vogue?
Well i just booted the nexus dump by replacing system/lib with the one in the sdk and then adding back some missing libs. Not quite usable about as good as Drizzys Droid 2.1.
Just out of curiosity, can you boot the nexus dump @ 240x320?
Shidell said:
Just out of curiosity, can you boot the nexus dump @ 240x320?
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I would like to know this too.
Shidell said:
Just out of curiosity, can you boot the nexus dump @ 240x320?
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yes you can
Wow, interesting.
I've got the Eclair branch (or what I believe to be the Eclair branch, it's labeled as such) from AOSP. I'm building it right now.
I'm optimistic that a clean build from AOSP will run better than the ripped/converted Nexus dump, but as I've never done this before, it's just speculation.
Zen, any advice on setting this up to run natively on the Vogue post-build? Anything I can package/upload for you to play with that might help?
Realistically, what do we have to do to get OpenGL working on Eclair/Flan? Will the G1 update apply to our devices? Having no thumbnails is a real pain, in addition to the occasionally jerky animation.

HTC Hero update to Android 2.1 pegged for mid-March

HTC Hero update to Android 2.1 pegged for mid-March
By Chris Ziegler posted Feb 9th 2010 5:35PM
We've known for ages that HTC's been working on yanking its custom-skinned Hero off of Cupcake's rusty frame, but so far, the only way to drop Android 2.0 or 2.1 on your phone has been to cheat, root, and load a custom or leaked ROM in place of the official first-party firmware. If you're too straightedge for that, though, keep the faith -- your binary isn't too far off. PR released today indicates that we can expect the Hero to get an Android 2.1 update with Sense in "mid March" according to HTC's Benelux team, and it'll feature a new Friend Stream widget that aggregates user updates across services (presumably a nod to Blur), tweaked Exchange support, and a handful of other goodies. This isn't necessarily indicative of when Hero versions in other regions (Sprint's version, for instance) will pick it up, but it's a solid start.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/htc-hero-update-to-android-2-1-pegged-for-mid-march/
blah wtf!!!. Its good dont get me wrong but still sketch on the sprint update
Ugh, I'm sick of waiting. T-Mobile here I come.
And thats from HTC. So we can expect an additional wait time from Sprint doing their crappy app tweaks. Maybe they will finally get Sprint tv working.
This isn't necessarily indicative of when Hero versions in other regions (Sprint's version, for instance) will pick it up, but it's a solid start.
I heard from an HTC rep that for Sprint it will be Feb 22.
knx2 said:
This isn't necessarily indicative of when Hero versions in other regions (Sprint's version, for instance) will pick it up, but it's a solid start.
I heard from an HTC rep that for Sprint it will be Feb 22.
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Along the same lines...If sprint were to post their update after the HTC official drop does that matter? Can't this be flashed directly to our phones (with out the sprint apps obviously)?
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Along the same lines...If sprint were to post their update after the HTC official drop does that matter? Can't this be flashed directly to our phones (with out the sprint apps obviously)?
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I think Sprint has to handle getting their network settings configured, so the Hero knows what to connect to.
I just talk to an HTC rep today and they said the same thing.
I sure hope it comes soon since the Droid is getting theirs this week according to this website
http://www.facebook.com/motorola?v=feed&story_fbid=294428153158&ref=mf
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I think Sprint has to handle getting their network settings configured, so the Hero knows what to connect to.
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this!!!! i think this is whats taking all the time
So if what the HTC reps told the two above posters is correct (not holding my breath), would it be better to go ahead and go with HTC's 2.1 or wait until one of our devs cooks one up?
By the way that this forum is looking we should have a pretty good looking 2.1 here pretty soon anyway. Just wondering.
Gregalous said:
So if what the HTC reps told the two above posters is correct (not holding my breath), would it be better to go ahead and go with HTC's 2.1 or wait until one of our devs cooks one up?
By the way that this forum is looking we should have a pretty good looking 2.1 here pretty soon anyway. Just wondering.
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As soon as the HTC update drops, our devs will have it re-released for rooted users.. Probably within a day.
In short, if it drops, I'd wait at least 24 hours prior to installing the authentic version, because it'll close the loophole you used to root in the first place.
will we be able to go back?
Say we flash the rom the day it comes out...im dieing to try it... will we be able to use the recovery tools to unflash or will it somehow kill our recovery tools?
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Say we flash the rom the day it comes out...im dieing to try it... will we be able to use the recovery tools to unflash or will it somehow kill our recovery tools?
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From my experience with the PSP, DO NOT UPDATE YOUR PHONE! Give it a few days to make sure root is still possible or doable.
I'd wait until a dev cooks up a rooted version so you don't lose root.
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I'd wait until a dev cooks up a rooted version so you don't lose root.
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Here's an official build of 2.1 WITH SENSE running on a GSM Hero. Cool to see what we'll have to look forward to.
Video: HTC Sense on Android 2.1 enable pinch-to-zoom on home screen
I would rather wait for a custom Rom running 2.1 then use Sprints 2.1 Rom
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Here's an official build of 2.1 WITH SENSE running on a GSM Hero. Cool to see what we'll have to look forward to.
Video: HTC Sense on Android 2.1 enable pinch-to-zoom on home screen
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acYDNlMYAaI
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Link fails: some CGI kid on a trike
EPIC on the march update but I want it now but who doesnt? I know I cant wait to un&*^& my market for my gmail account since i upped to a 2.0 AOSP rom signed in and went back to 1.5 forgetting about that from my android-vogue days and how it basically upgrades your market account then some apps purely wont be able to be found until you go back to that ver.

htc legend already shipping

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/10/htc-legend-already-trickling-into-customers-waiting-hands/
so it seems some people are getting these phones early now if im correct this phone runs android 2.1 with sense. maybe someone who gets one of these can get us a dump for the devs.
I've had the whole ruu for a few weeks and ported it to work. It's basically the same as the 2 2.1 roms everyone is building from now. Other then fm radio that we already know won't work on our devices. The legend builds are also older builds then the Eris build I ported. The heroc build fresh released with the .29 kernel is actually newer then the Eris build by one day. And the most current build of 2.1 I've found. The only reasons I haven't released the legend build. Is for one we have newer builds and two it has issues with our speaker and Mic. The build is exactly the same as flipz heroc build. So were not gonna gain much from building off of if. It's also a gsm build that will need a lot of fixing to be as functional as the current newer builds. In my opinion its not worth the time to port something older then the current builds.
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I've had the whole ruu for a few weeks and ported it to work. It's basically the same as the 2 2.1 roms everyone is building from now. Other then fm radio that we already know won't work on our devices. The legend builds are also older builds then the Eris build I ported. The heroc build fresh released with the .29 kernel is actually newer then the Eris build by one day. And the most current build of 2.1 I've found. The only reasons I haven't released the legend build. Is for one we have newer builds and two it has issues with our speaker and Mic. The build is exactly the same as flipz heroc build. So were not gonna gain much from building off of if. It's also a gsm build that will need a lot of fixing to be as functional as the current newer builds. In my opinion its not worth the time to port something older then the current builds.
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The one thing i saw on the vids, of note, was the browser's enhanced text selection features (think it had translate, wikipedia, n some other stough whenever you select text)..is that something port-able?
KERKEDAGAIN said:
The one thing i saw on the vids, of note, was the browser's enhanced text selection features (think it had translate, wikipedia, n some other stough whenever you select text)..is that something port-able?
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i didnt see that in it. ill boot it up tonight sometime and check.
had no idea it was gsm lol oh well. i just keep hopin to get ahold of that friend stream widget lol
too bad it's gsm. that's a sharp looking phone.
ya it sure is the unibody and all would be nice and the optical trackball
that was in the build also. lol ok fine ill fix audio and make a build it wont be tonight though. i gotta have some time. been working on this aosp multitouch issue. i dont use aosp but i want to know those who do dont have to suffer without a camera
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ya it sure is the unibody and all would be nice and the optical trackball
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http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/03/pershoots-2-6-32-kernel-tutorial/
did u see this to bad its gsm as well lol
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that was in the build also. lol ok fine ill fix audio and make a build it wont be tonight though. i gotta have some time. been working on this aosp multitouch issue. i dont use aosp but i want to know those who do dont have to suffer without a camera
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let me ask you this, why put all the effort into this 2.1 port when the official update will be coming soon and then you will have to make another rom but fully functional already.
no offense, just seems like it's kinda pointless when we have the update coming this month.
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that was in the build also. lol ok fine ill fix audio and make a build it wont be tonight though. i gotta have some time. been working on this aosp multitouch issue. i dont use aosp but i want to know those who do dont have to suffer without a camera
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if i wanted aosp i would of gotten anything besides a hero but the interface seemed so much nicer with sense it really was the whole decision for me with sense on this phone.
to me the biggest reason for continuing all these 2.1 roms. when the official comes out whenever its suppose to to me is that once the official actually does come out its alot easier to work with since the dev's are familiar with it
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if i wanted aosp i would of gotten anything besides a hero but the interface seemed so much nicer with sense it really was the whole decision for me with sense on this phone.
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well your not everyone
fixxxer2008 said:
let me ask you this, why put all the effort into this 2.1 port when the official update will be coming soon and then you will have to make another rom but fully functional already.
no offense, just seems like it's kinda pointless when we have the update coming this month.
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well just because we have a sprint 2.1 build doesnt mean we will get what all other buildsa have. we may not get friendstream and if thats the case then we will need new frameworks to support it. once sprint releases 2.1 doesnt make it the end of the road for porting other builds. one build may have some new function built into it. take espresso for example... its ui was totally different then any other. then we move on to other builds. some dont include certain htc apps. its almost like htc has a catalog with a gang load of options. the carrier or buyer may not wanna pay for a colorful ui they may only want it gray scale like eris is. or they may want all the colored icons like flipz's build and legend. every build is different. beleive this as soon as sprint gives us a 2.1 build. it will be extreamly simple to make an update.zip of it. no porting required at all. at this point i only want sprint to release because then that means we will get kernel source for .29. at that point if we already havent ported it ourselves(like last time) we can move on to bigger better things. but... as ive already seen were gonna need source for some of these new builds. our device is old and needs more space. so were gonna need to compile modules to squash the system down to a usable size and use other modules like ramswap and such to make up for or lack of hardware. were being outdated fast. android is finally developing into something to kick the other os's asses.
ps i do stuff to help everyone. whether i use their builds or not.
I am wondering about something concerning the new trackpad replacing the trackball in these new devices. How is this haedware switch going to affect recovery (if at all)? I mean will just "tapping" the trackpad work just as pushing the track button. Just something to think about.
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I am wondering about something concerning the new trackpad replacing the trackball in these new devices. How is this haedware switch going to affect recovery (if at all)? I mean will just "tapping" the trackpad work just as pushing the track button. Just something to think about.
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well when u boot into recovery. it loads ur kernel and all of its drivers. im sure that it can be made aware of a trckpad if its not already.
I love the build of the device but after the hero I don't think ill settle for a inferior processor again especially after reading the reviews.
some people prefer aosp to sense. when i first bought the phone i liked sense but honestly after a few months i found that sense isnt worth the space its code takes up.
@toast
does the legend Rom have FriendStream and NewsReader?
I have been trying to get these to run under fresh 2.0 but it just will not work
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@toast
does the legend Rom have FriendStream and NewsReader?
I have been trying to get these to run under fresh 2.0 but it just will not work
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hey don't mean to step on toasts toes or anything but ya i've tried to install the friendstream apk from a few different 2.1 apps and its a no go and im not sure why but as of now and from what i have seen they don't work

HD2, WinMo7, 6.x and VS2010...

This is a bit of an odd question, but please bare with me here.
I'm writing my thesis for the uni about C#... with the recent release of VS2010, I thought it'd be great to focus on this IDE and the new features it offers and put those in the thesis as well. I ALSO had an idea to show that one can write apps for mobile devices using C# (duh, but all's fair in the academic world ); I own a HD2, so being able to whip out the phone and show the app working would be a great way to blow some academic minds (well, not really, but I think it'd be nice).
However... VS2010 doesn't support WMo 6.X, which is a serious bummer. There are some rumours that an SDK will be released, but if and when that will happen remains a mystery.
So this leaves me WMo7, which has already been ported to HD2. However, it seems it's not public just yet. And besides not being public, WMo7 will supposedly only allow apps to be installed through MS store... so I have no idea if it'll be possible for me to write an app for that OS and actually use it (it won't be commercial in any way and 100% useless for 99% of people, as it only serves as a live example for my thesis).
To summarize:
- Is is possible for a "basement-programmer" like myself to use WMo7 to show off my own apps without the use of the MS store?
- If so, where could I get my hands on WMo7 for HD2?
- If WMo7 is not available to us mortals, could someone tell me roughly when a public release will be available?
- Or perhaps the whole idea is pointless and I should just develop my app in VS2080 and show it off with the HD2 that I currently own? (It's will be a simple app that connects to some database online without being limited to MSSQL and does something with it, where "something" is yet unspecified)
Shaamaan said:
To summarize:
- Is is possible for a "basement-programmer" like myself to use WMo7 to show off my own apps without the use of the MS store?
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developers should be able too install apps without going into the store like it is on wm6.5 atm.
Shaamaan said:
- If so, where could I get my hands on WMo7 for HD2?
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its not available.
Shaamaan said:
- If WMo7 is not available to us mortals, could someone tell me roughly when a public release will be available?
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assume currently it wont be available for the HD2, if it is then it wont be available until a few months after the release of wp7
Shaamaan said:
- Or perhaps the whole idea is pointless and I should just develop my app in VS2010 and show it off with the HD2 that I currently own? (It's will be a simple app that connects to some database online without being limited to MSSQL and does something with it, where "something" is yet unspecified)
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maybe
Xp3RiM3nT said:
assume currently it wont be available for the HD2, if it is then it wont be available until a few months after the release of wp7
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Despite the fact that WMo7 has already been ported?
maybe
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I actually meant using VS2008 BTW, typo...
Shaamaan said:
Despite the fact that WMo7 has already been ported?
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AKAIK it hasnt, there is a rom available but it doesnt run on any current device since its a beta rom for an unreleased device.
there is a chance they may get it working on the HD2 or some other phone but its not available currently.
Xp3RiM3nT said:
AKAIK it hasnt, there is a rom available but it doesnt run on any current device since its a beta rom for an unreleased device.
there is a chance they may get it working on the HD2 or some other phone but its not available currently.
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So... the whole thing about W7 having been ported to HD2 was just a rumour?
I am not sure where you heard that winmo had been ported too hd2? is a link available.
I have just checked Da_G's twitter account and he is still working on the port, he has developed several new tools too help him but is struggling to get some stuff to do with the JTAG controller.
there is a hd2 application which attempts to reimplement some of the functions you can see in the wp7 promo videos but this is not a port it is just an application that looks like wp7.
Shaamaan said:
So... the whole thing about W7 having been ported to HD2 was just a rumour?
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write your app under 2008 and for 6.5, there hasn't been any word from the source of that rumour for months. C# code is very portable between 2008 and 2010, so don't worry about that. With a little work (can be on the order of hours) you can upgrade your code to 2010 and 7.0 if it ever arrives for HD2.
uuum.. u can show windows phone 7 with a emulator on a pc.. and i think ms released the windows phone 7 tools to programm apps for it alerady..
http://developer.windowsphone.com/Default.aspx
dont know if its possible to just run the app without the market.. i hope it is, but really dont know >.<
and its impossible to port wp7 to the HD2 right now. yes, it already happened, but that version is very laggy and buggy, so its useless when u want to show it

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