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Cupcake eating my donut!

I managed to build Donut source tree for Dream. But the stupid thing shows Cupcake 1.5 in the phone settings.
Any idea why?

donut is almost identical to cupcake, for now.

vishurao said:
I managed to build Donut source tree for Dream. But the stupid thing shows Cupcake 1.5 in the phone settings.
Any idea why?
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So you have flash in the browser

Yeah, there hasn't been any work done in the donut branch yet. So, at the moment, it's the same code as 1.5

nabzilla1990 said:
So you have flash in the browser
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Build is broken for the browser. I was getting a lot of compilation errors. Didnt look that deep into it. Just removed browser app from build structure.

you got any update for us to see or some pic

Smokuevo said:
you got any update for us to see or some pic
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First thing i saw was Settings->About Phone.
It said Firmware Version 1.5. Build number 1.5 Cupcake.
i didnt take another second to flash Jf1.5. took me 1 whole day to solve compilation issues and saw 1.5 cupcake in the end.

Words like "cupcake" and "donut" are not equivalent to version numbers like 1.5 and 2.0. They are moving targets. As noted above, if you download donut today, you will get nearly the same code as cupcake.

jashsu said:
Words like "cupcake" and "donut" are not equivalent to version numbers like 1.5 and 2.0. They are moving targets. As noted above, if you download donut today, you will get nearly the same code as cupcake.
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Then whats the fuzz about Magic using donut?

vishurao said:
Then whats the fuzz about Magic using donut?
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You've been reading too many rumors.

2.0 IS a far way away. The hype lately is not for it. The Hype is for the HTC Hero Port by Haykuro. The 1.5 Cupcake build has new UI and New cosmetic updates that the community would love to see.

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2.0 IS a far way away. The hype lately is not for it. The Hype is for the HTC Hero Port by Haykuro. The 1.5 Cupcake build has new UI and New cosmetic updates that the community would love to see.
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Not to mention FLASHPLAYER!!!

frim what i had seen of the build timeline, it apears that 2.0 may actualy get skiped, there currently working on 3.0

i didnt find a flashplayer change in the browsers tree? http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/packages/apps/Browser.git;a=summary

siriuz said:
i didnt find a flashplayer change in the browsers tree? http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/packages/apps/Browser.git;a=summary
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Cos there is none? Just because someone casually mentions "flash player" doesn't mean anything of the sort is in. In fact, id say these days a good 90% of the posted content on Dream android dev is just noise. A waste of bandwidth. A load of horse sh-t. etc etc.

siriuz said:
i didnt find a flashplayer change in the browsers tree? http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/packages/apps/Browser.git;a=summary
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That's because Google didn't add flashplayer, HTC did. The source tree is the open source code from Google. I'm talking about the closed source version that HTC is working on, on there own, for the HTC Hero. Improvements made by outside companies won't show up in the Google source tree.

here's' your flash player live and on a G1 like you want
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghIGj9r3_vc&feature=player_embedded

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Cos there is none? Just because someone casually mentions "flash player" doesn't mean anything of the sort is in. In fact, id say these days a good 90% of the posted content on Dream android dev is just noise. A waste of bandwidth. A load of horse sh-t. etc etc.
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It was more than a casual mention and rumors. It was stated directly by HAYKURO, hence the excitement. But don't take my word for it:
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hmph. i find it rather annoying that you guys are listening to this forum that is simply using a completely pre-alpha build i provided to give you guys feedback.
the browser they have in that build has the flash player libraries, if you run the browser test, flash is supported.
the profile (which i posted earlier) does not mention flash, thus websites doesn't believe we have flash. above that, the browser.apk is INCOMPLETE as i've been saying.
flash IS supported, and WILL work, as soon as i receive the tutorial build.
please stop posting rumors discovered on any other website. unless it is stated directly by me, Darkrift, or anyone else who is officially testing my latest roms.
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testing567 said:
It was more than a casual mention and rumors. It was stated directly by HAYKURO, hence the excitement. But don't take my word for it:
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That flash plugin is a HTC product, not a part of the AOSP. I'm referring to rumors of flash in the AOSP, although frankly we haven't seen anything promising about the HTC flash plugin either, aside from a screenshot of the plugin directory.

WIFI Proxy?

Is it possible to set-up proxy for wifi? at school we are using proxy to use the internet. i'm not a iphone fan but its really easy on the iphone and would like to know if it was possible with hero/android
if this is not possible will it come later to android?

Check this out:
http://code.google.com/p/proxysetting/
It appears to be an app that will do it for you. It might be on the market too, I haven't checked. Just did a quick google search and it was the first thing that came up.

Why isnt it build in? Will it be build in with later releases of android?
I will look at the link maybe i will find something great

That should do the trick, that is exactly what I'm searching for!!
I'll test it at work tomorrow and let you know if it worked, I allready set the proxy, really simple prog to work with. I REALLY hope it works.

Hmm, the programme doesnt do anything. Still cant connect to the internet. Anybody got other suggestions..?

Trenchor said:
Hmm, the programme doesnt do anything. Still cant connect to the internet. Anybody got other suggestions..?
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Your phone may need to be rooted for this to work... that's just a shot in the dark. As soon as I get my Hero (yeah, I'm trolling the forums before Telus even has them in stock) that's the first thing I'm gonna do, but some people are more cautious, so it's up to you if you wanna bother rooting your phone on the off chance that it'll get the app I linked to work.
EDIT: My bad, if you check the "issues" page on the site, you'll see that it hasn't been updated to work on cupcake. :/

will there be proxy settings in donut?

commodoor said:
will there be proxy settings in donut?
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It's hard to say. I found this "complete" list of donut features:
http://www.betanews.com/article/Android-Donut-SDK-released-Whats-new-inside/1253057624
I wouldn't be surprised if the inclusion of full VPN support also brought proxy settings with it, but it's hard to say.

Thnx for the article, its great.

Is the new version (donut) already released? Or when will that be?
Oh yeah, how will Hero users be able to work with the new version of android?
Because we got htc 'sense' above android, so I guess HTC also has to release a new version of the 'sense'??

Trenchor said:
Is the new version (donut) already released? Or when will that be?
Oh yeah, how will Hero users be able to work with the new version of android?
Because we got htc 'sense' above android, so I guess HTC also has to release a new version of the 'sense'??
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Yes, donut was released on September 15th, but there are no phones that come with 1.6 on them. The CLIQ is supposed to be the first one, I think. Cupcake applications are expected to run on Donut, so I see no reason why a Hero update (both official and non-official) wouldn't be too far down the road.
I don't have a Hero yet, but I've been running Android on my Vogue for over a year now, and last week I actually ran a Donut build. It's very nice, although the vogue build is missing a lot of apps, like GMail, and contacts don't sync, so it's not really feasible for us to use until more development is done on it.

donut wasn't released but the SDK. with SDK can developers edit(if its needed) their programs to make it work in donut or just test it before the donut comes out. htc will make there sensui work in donut because it would be there shell for android and wanna us it with new htc android phones. but if it comes to hero i don't know i hope so or i will feel like i left behind.
sensui is nice but i think it slows down the phone but thats what i think. i would prefer the speed above sensui.

commodoor said:
donut wasn't released but the SDK. with SDK can developers edit(if its needed) their programs to make it work in donut or just test it before the donut comes out. htc will make there sensui work in donut because it would be there shell for android and wanna us it with new htc android phones. but if it comes to hero i don't know i hope so or i will feel like i left behind.
sensui is nice but i think it slows down the phone but thats what i think. i would prefer the speed above sensui.
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Yes and no... the SDK is what was officially released on the 15th yes, but google has been adding donut into the android source tree for a while now. The SDK includes a donut system image to run in the emulator, and which can also run on phones (as this is what I've run on my vogue) but of course is missing several google apps. The market and youtube are included though. The source for donut is all in the git tree along with cupcake and... 1.0, whatever its codename is. It's just up to phone manufacturers to take the source and build specific images for their devices at this point, although I'm sure google still has updates to add to it as well.

question on all vogue-android builds

which is the most stable for everyday use right now? also what happened to this tattoo build for us on qvga, i don't see it anywhere?

If you want something truly stable and fast, use the standard Ion build. Other than that, most of the Ion/Cupcake builds are very good for use. Such as the xRom builds or something like that.
The tatoo/hero/pulse/etc. builds are in the works and are not really stable. The ones which are "stable" usually run kind of slow on our hardware. Even though they are definitely cool and look awesome. They aren't really practical for everyday use imo.

TheKartus said:
If you want something truly stable and fast, use the standard Ion build. Other than that, most of the Ion/Cupcake builds are very good for use. Such as the xRom builds or something like that.
The tatoo/hero/pulse/etc. builds are in the works and are not really stable. The ones which are "stable" usually run kind of slow on our hardware. Even though they are definitely cool and look awesome. They aren't really practical for everyday use imo.
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yeah i tried the motorola build and it just stayed in a boot loop i call it. maybe ill wipe my card and try xrom again. i was hoping for this tattoo build because i hear it is native qvga.

fixxxer2008 said:
yeah i tried the motorola build and it just stayed in a boot loop i call it. maybe ill wipe my card and try xrom again. i was hoping for this tattoo build because i hear it is native qvga.
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I'm using the motor build at 240 x 320 & 110 lcd density... very nice. A few hiccups but this looks like my fav build so far. Once you get to homescreen let it settle down for a bit and it works well. Gps, native camera.... need to figure out how to fine-tune this puppy

none of these builds are functional enough for me to use everyday, im soo disappointed. that and now i can't buy the hero until next year because of $$ issues. im stuck with the damn vogue and winmo hell.
edit: i also didn't mean any disrespect to any of the devs on here either, you guys have done a great job. it's just been a bad day for me and i can never get any of these builds to run right on my vogue like some of you do.

fixxxer2008 said:
none of these builds are functional enough for me to use everyday, im soo disappointed. that and now i can't buy the hero until next year because of $$ issues. im stuck with the damn vogue and winmo hell.
edit: i also didn't mean any disrespect to any of the devs on here either, you guys have done a great job. it's just been a bad day for me and i can never get any of these builds to run right on my vogue like some of you do.
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I've been using xROM 1.5 for about 2 months with no issues what so ever. Why is it not functional enough for you to use? Everything works except bluetooth.

fixxxer2008 said:
none of these builds are functional enough for me to use everyday, im soo disappointed. that and now i can't buy the hero until next year because of $$ issues. im stuck with the damn vogue and winmo hell.
edit: i also didn't mean any disrespect to any of the devs on here either, you guys have done a great job. it's just been a bad day for me and i can never get any of these builds to run right on my vogue like some of you do.
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Any of the Ion builds are great for use everyday. All you lack is bluetooth and MMS but Android makes up for that with its other benefits. Ion is perfectly stable and fast.

right now im running zens xrom and it seems to be pretty stable soo far. ill give it a go this weekend.
couple questions.... can we take a screenshot at all yet? also is there a way to remove the clock from the taskbar? i find it stupid to have a clock on the taskbar and then a clock widget on the home screen.

fixxxer2008 said:
right now im running zens xrom and it seems to be pretty stable soo far. ill give it a go this weekend.
couple questions.... can we take a screenshot at all yet? also is there a way to remove the clock from the taskbar? i find it stupid to have a clock on the taskbar and then a clock widget on the home screen.
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yea follow this guide for screenshots. it worked for me. you have to download the sdk and use ddms in the tools akaik, its in the guide http://www.downloadsquad.com/2008/10/22/taking-screenshots-on-an-android-based-phone/

jamezelle said:
yea follow this guide for screenshots. it worked for me. you have to download the sdk and use ddms in the tools akaik, its in the guide http://www.downloadsquad.com/2008/10/22/taking-screenshots-on-an-android-based-phone/
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wow all of that to take a shot? i know there's an app for rooted users on the market.

fixxxer2008 said:
wow all of that to take a shot? i know there's an app for rooted users on the market.
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We don't have root access though.

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We don't have root access though.
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yeah i know, i was just saying. im shocked no one has tried to make a screenshot app for us vogue users.

fixxxer2008 said:
yeah i know, i was just saying. im shocked no one has tried to make a screenshot app for us vogue users.
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yeah but thats all we have to work with for now

fixxxer2008 said:
none of these builds are functional enough for me to use everyday, im soo disappointed. that and now i can't buy the hero until next year because of $$ issues. im stuck with the damn vogue and winmo hell.
edit: i also didn't mean any disrespect to any of the devs on here either, you guys have done a great job. it's just been a bad day for me and i can never get any of these builds to run right on my vogue like some of you do.
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I would recommend using SPB Mobile shell 3.1 or 3.5 and then adding the Revolution theme. It's a rip off of the Hero UI and SPB Mobile shell is the MOST stable Today plugin that I have used to date.
They made it over in France so use this link to translate for you.
Sence le Revolution

You have root access through su. And to take a pic you can use the debugger in the sdk.
And hero runs sense ui just fine so no need to fake it.

woke up this morning and my data connection went down in xrom. i had to reset the modem. what would cause this? this is one reason ive not been successful in using android for very long.

fixxxer2008 said:
woke up this morning and my data connection went down in xrom. i had to reset the modem. what would cause this? this is one reason ive not been successful in using android for very long.
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edit: i just read users of the real hero are having the same issues with data connection on top of a ton of other major issues. i think ill hold off buying the hero until a fix comes out. sprint cannot afford another failure at this point.

i think you need to just use windows mobile my friend. i've seen you bash and complain about this project enought times even on ppcgeeks. you never provide any usefull info besides what doesnt work. i use nfsfans latest winmo rom it's real nice but not prefect but i dont go creating my own thread just to complain about it

zenulator said:
i think you need to just use windows mobile my friend. i've seen you bash and complain about this project enought times even on ppcgeeks. you never provide any usefull info besides what doesnt work. i use nfsfans latest winmo rom it's real nice but not prefect but i dont go creating my own thread just to complain about it
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i didn't bash any devs on here, im having issues and im posting them, just like everyone else. i like android/hero but in my experience soo far i cannot find a build that is near functional for everyday uses. im going to buy a hero and pray it is more functional but ive been hearing owners say it has alot of issues as well. my vogues on its last leg and i need to upgrade. im running nfsfans rom and while its good, i hate winmo like most of you do.

fixxxer2008 said:
i didn't bash any devs on here, im having issues and im posting them, just like everyone else. i like android/hero but in my experience soo far i cannot find a build that is near functional for everyday uses. im going to buy a hero and pray it is more functional but ive been hearing owners say it has alot of issues as well. my vogues on its last leg and i need to upgrade. im running nfsfans rom and while its good, i hate winmo like most of you do.
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What about the ion build? That's every day usable in my eyes. And I've had problems with Windows mobile locking up and missing calls even on a stock Rom/radio...but to me I see more complaints from you than anyone else. I know things aren't prefect but users of other HTC windows phones would love to be able to run android as well as vogue/kaiser.

Which 2.XX Rom is the best so far? What are you using?

im currently running AOSP 1.6 rom with gbhil custom kernal with setcpu, I really wanna switch to a newer ROM im reading alot about.
1. flipz n toast 2.1 v1.8-7
2. darchstar Cyanogen (like) 2.0.1
3. darchstar AOSP 2.1
which seems to be the best ROM with the most features and close to everything working correctly?
What is everyone using?

BAttitude7689 said:
im currently running AOSP 1.6 rom with gbhil custom kernal with setcpu, I really wanna switch to a newer ROM im reading alot about.
1. flipz n toast 2.1 v1.8-7
2. darchstar Cyanogen (like) 2.0.1
3. darchstar AOSP 2.1
which seems to be the best ROM with the most features and close to everything working correctly?
What is everyone using?
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Still using fresh 1.1 Rom, going to try darchstar's AOSP 2.1 today. I will post when finished and let you know how it goes.

i won't use any 2.1 rom until the official comes out.

Now that multi touch and open gl is out thanks to toast, the sense 2.1 build has everything but the camara , mms receive at least for me it isnt working, and vvm
But I like the cyogen like 2.0.1 build a lot

I'm having problems in all of 'em. I like the live wallpapers, market, and maps of the AOSP 2.1, but there are quite a few bugs of things working then not working, then crashing, then working a little.
The Sense 2.1 is kinda nice, but no paid apps in the market and no live wallpapers.
I like the browser in AOSP more than the sense browser.
I haven't tried the 2.0 yet.
I don't think any of 'em are ready for prime-time. They're need, but all have critical issues.

official 2.1 is coming out soon, so I don't see much motivation to go for a custom 2.1 ROM.

Using darchstar's 2.1 right now and it is really fast!! The camera not to big of a deal(not working), But other than that should really give it a test try!!

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official 2.1 is coming out soon, so I don't see much motivation to go for a custom 2.1 ROM.
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The date of release for sprint/htc 2.1 was pushed to 2H2010.

I'm using *LOOK IN SIG* right now. works great!

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The date of release for sprint/htc 2.1 was pushed to 2H2010.
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Really? I thought it was 1H2010 and then 2Q2010, which is practically the same damn thing....

Darkshneider said:
Really? I thought it was 1H2010 and then 2Q2010, which is practically the same damn thing....
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Aye, he's wrong, it's 2Q. I think I heard that sprint said it should be out next month.

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The date of release for sprint/htc 2.1 was pushed to 2H2010.
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nah, it was officially set at 2Q2010, which should be not too far off.
I agree with others, despite the massive amounts of work going into getting the kernels and roms working correctly, I will wait untill the official 2.1 as well...

wow either no one else here is trying Darchstar's 2.1 or 2.01 or im just lucky. I think his 2.1 is the best rom out, and I am including all the 1.5 and 1.6 roms in argument. Its my everyday rom, and I am a HEAVY user.

No camera = deal breaker for some.

no mms.. deal breaker.. But I use Sprint PIcture messaging website to get the missing pictures.. lol... and so I still use Darch's 2.1

the main purpose of the eclair i dev for is actually hopes of getting all hardware working in eclair with a .27 kernel. with that being said once sprint releases a 2.1 build for us we will be able to use a custom kernel in it. allowing for mods that extend beyond the build itself. the gsm hero devs know about this advantage as the .29 kernel they have runs slower then their .27 kernel in the builds. ive actually been passing my work on to lox as we fix things. trying to get them closer to a fully working 2.x build with .27 kernel under the hood also. all the 2.x builds will be buggy until we get atleast one official one to nab apps from and such. im thinking of the future right now. when sprint releases a rom and everyones pissed about source again. plus what we learn now will help us all later. i cant say one build is better then another. i guess its if u like sinse or aosp. or want this but not that. to me im just glad we are as far as we are. think about this... the dream guys dont even have opengl (as dream devs have come already looking to use our work) in their 2.x builds and the camera is half baked. also multitouch is a app hack. we have all but camera supported in a little .27 kernel and weve only had source for a few months. most said we wouldntve gotten this far in such little time. but we proved them all wrong.

I have been happy with every rom that I've found on this forum.
Gumbo 1.5c was the first I tried, and it was great. Some minor lag issues, but everything worked.
Now using toast + flips 2.1, and it's amazing. I miss my camera, but I'm not going to complain about it, because having multi touch and the consistency of how the phone runs is whats doing it for me. Thank god, I don't have to wait until Sprint releases one!

No offense to toast or anyone working on the 2.1 Sense ROM, but I tried it, and for me, it just didn't feel right. It was somehwat fast, but it did have moments of lag. Also, I didn't like all of the HTC stuff that came with it. I flashed darchstar's 2.1 AOSP, and WOW. It hit the spot. It's snappy because of the AOSP, and it has nothing "junky" in it. All I've done is flashed the HTC keyboard to it, and now it's wonderful Snappy, 2.1, AOSP, it's great. I don't really care about the live wallpapers, althought the Duck Hunt one was pretty nice.

tyrnight said:
no mms.. deal breaker.. But I use Sprint PIcture messaging website to get the missing pictures.. lol... and so I still use Darch's 2.1
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Can we access picture mail from our phone browser and how do you know when you get a new message?

I'd like to throw it out there that after removing HtcCopyright.apk from darchstar's 2.1 AOSP, I've gotten rid of a lot, if not all, lag from the ROM. The speed also got ridiculously faster.

htc legend already shipping

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/10/htc-legend-already-trickling-into-customers-waiting-hands/
so it seems some people are getting these phones early now if im correct this phone runs android 2.1 with sense. maybe someone who gets one of these can get us a dump for the devs.

I've had the whole ruu for a few weeks and ported it to work. It's basically the same as the 2 2.1 roms everyone is building from now. Other then fm radio that we already know won't work on our devices. The legend builds are also older builds then the Eris build I ported. The heroc build fresh released with the .29 kernel is actually newer then the Eris build by one day. And the most current build of 2.1 I've found. The only reasons I haven't released the legend build. Is for one we have newer builds and two it has issues with our speaker and Mic. The build is exactly the same as flipz heroc build. So were not gonna gain much from building off of if. It's also a gsm build that will need a lot of fixing to be as functional as the current newer builds. In my opinion its not worth the time to port something older then the current builds.

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I've had the whole ruu for a few weeks and ported it to work. It's basically the same as the 2 2.1 roms everyone is building from now. Other then fm radio that we already know won't work on our devices. The legend builds are also older builds then the Eris build I ported. The heroc build fresh released with the .29 kernel is actually newer then the Eris build by one day. And the most current build of 2.1 I've found. The only reasons I haven't released the legend build. Is for one we have newer builds and two it has issues with our speaker and Mic. The build is exactly the same as flipz heroc build. So were not gonna gain much from building off of if. It's also a gsm build that will need a lot of fixing to be as functional as the current newer builds. In my opinion its not worth the time to port something older then the current builds.
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The one thing i saw on the vids, of note, was the browser's enhanced text selection features (think it had translate, wikipedia, n some other stough whenever you select text)..is that something port-able?

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The one thing i saw on the vids, of note, was the browser's enhanced text selection features (think it had translate, wikipedia, n some other stough whenever you select text)..is that something port-able?
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i didnt see that in it. ill boot it up tonight sometime and check.

had no idea it was gsm lol oh well. i just keep hopin to get ahold of that friend stream widget lol

too bad it's gsm. that's a sharp looking phone.

ya it sure is the unibody and all would be nice and the optical trackball

that was in the build also. lol ok fine ill fix audio and make a build it wont be tonight though. i gotta have some time. been working on this aosp multitouch issue. i dont use aosp but i want to know those who do dont have to suffer without a camera

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ya it sure is the unibody and all would be nice and the optical trackball
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http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/03/pershoots-2-6-32-kernel-tutorial/
did u see this to bad its gsm as well lol

toastcfh said:
that was in the build also. lol ok fine ill fix audio and make a build it wont be tonight though. i gotta have some time. been working on this aosp multitouch issue. i dont use aosp but i want to know those who do dont have to suffer without a camera
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let me ask you this, why put all the effort into this 2.1 port when the official update will be coming soon and then you will have to make another rom but fully functional already.
no offense, just seems like it's kinda pointless when we have the update coming this month.

toastcfh said:
that was in the build also. lol ok fine ill fix audio and make a build it wont be tonight though. i gotta have some time. been working on this aosp multitouch issue. i dont use aosp but i want to know those who do dont have to suffer without a camera
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if i wanted aosp i would of gotten anything besides a hero but the interface seemed so much nicer with sense it really was the whole decision for me with sense on this phone.

to me the biggest reason for continuing all these 2.1 roms. when the official comes out whenever its suppose to to me is that once the official actually does come out its alot easier to work with since the dev's are familiar with it

nbroneobi said:
if i wanted aosp i would of gotten anything besides a hero but the interface seemed so much nicer with sense it really was the whole decision for me with sense on this phone.
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well your not everyone

fixxxer2008 said:
let me ask you this, why put all the effort into this 2.1 port when the official update will be coming soon and then you will have to make another rom but fully functional already.
no offense, just seems like it's kinda pointless when we have the update coming this month.
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well just because we have a sprint 2.1 build doesnt mean we will get what all other buildsa have. we may not get friendstream and if thats the case then we will need new frameworks to support it. once sprint releases 2.1 doesnt make it the end of the road for porting other builds. one build may have some new function built into it. take espresso for example... its ui was totally different then any other. then we move on to other builds. some dont include certain htc apps. its almost like htc has a catalog with a gang load of options. the carrier or buyer may not wanna pay for a colorful ui they may only want it gray scale like eris is. or they may want all the colored icons like flipz's build and legend. every build is different. beleive this as soon as sprint gives us a 2.1 build. it will be extreamly simple to make an update.zip of it. no porting required at all. at this point i only want sprint to release because then that means we will get kernel source for .29. at that point if we already havent ported it ourselves(like last time) we can move on to bigger better things. but... as ive already seen were gonna need source for some of these new builds. our device is old and needs more space. so were gonna need to compile modules to squash the system down to a usable size and use other modules like ramswap and such to make up for or lack of hardware. were being outdated fast. android is finally developing into something to kick the other os's asses.
ps i do stuff to help everyone. whether i use their builds or not.

I am wondering about something concerning the new trackpad replacing the trackball in these new devices. How is this haedware switch going to affect recovery (if at all)? I mean will just "tapping" the trackpad work just as pushing the track button. Just something to think about.

troyboytn said:
I am wondering about something concerning the new trackpad replacing the trackball in these new devices. How is this haedware switch going to affect recovery (if at all)? I mean will just "tapping" the trackpad work just as pushing the track button. Just something to think about.
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well when u boot into recovery. it loads ur kernel and all of its drivers. im sure that it can be made aware of a trckpad if its not already.

I love the build of the device but after the hero I don't think ill settle for a inferior processor again especially after reading the reviews.

some people prefer aosp to sense. when i first bought the phone i liked sense but honestly after a few months i found that sense isnt worth the space its code takes up.

@toast
does the legend Rom have FriendStream and NewsReader?
I have been trying to get these to run under fresh 2.0 but it just will not work

zippy-man said:
@toast
does the legend Rom have FriendStream and NewsReader?
I have been trying to get these to run under fresh 2.0 but it just will not work
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hey don't mean to step on toasts toes or anything but ya i've tried to install the friendstream apk from a few different 2.1 apps and its a no go and im not sure why but as of now and from what i have seen they don't work