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Thought maybe by now someone would make a workable flashable zip to flash basically stock vibrant firmware with the nand fix (the real method, not with 130 mb limit). If it is out there I apologize, but i'm almost sure I haven't seen it on here. And I'm referring to flashing via clockwork recovery. I've come from a G1 and really never had to do anything but download and hit the "flash any zip" option from recovery, and its a method i'm most comfortable with. Thanks for any direction you might provide.
This ROM doesn't use the NAND, it uses an EXT2/EXT3 partition on your SD card.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743506
javacody said:
This ROM doesn't use the NAND, it uses an EXT2/EXT3 partition on your SD card.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743506
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How is it working for you?
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Thought maybe by now someone would make a workable flashable zip to flash basically stock vibrant firmware with the nand fix (the real method, not with 130 mb limit). If it is out there I apologize, but i'm almost sure I haven't seen it on here. And I'm referring to flashing via clockwork recovery. I've come from a G1 and really never had to do anything but download and hit the "flash any zip" option from recovery, and its a method i'm most comfortable with. Thanks for any direction you might provide.
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..since there is no way to magically make nand bigger than 128 megs (without soldering new chips on) I suspect "the real method" is the apps2sd method..
Disconn3ct said:
..since there is no way to magically make nand bigger than 128 megs (without soldering new chips on) I suspect "the real method" is the apps2sd method..
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Both Methods require ROOT*
*Method 1 limits the space of app data, which can possibly cause issues*
*Method 2 requires writing a new Kernel, which comes with it's own possible issues*
I'm just getting irritated. I have a 1ghz phone with lag/gps problems. It seems whenever I need to whip out my phone for something quick those are always the times it screws up too, so i get 10x more frustrated but I didn't want this to become a phone i'm constantly flashing and its already happening because it wasn't made right in the first place. Anyone with lag fix able to post a backup they might have made? I'm just looking for solutions, and easier ways to get there.
Plus maybe i'm just biased but creating an EXT? I thought those days were over when I cashed in my G1. I just dont understand how using an ext on your SD can be faster than storing the data internally.
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Plus maybe i'm just biased but creating an EXT? I thought those days were over when I cashed in my G1. I just dont understand how using an ext on your SD can be faster than storing the data internally.
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Read the linked thread above and you'll learn. It's pretty simple.
MTC44 said:
Read the linked thread above and you'll learn. It's pretty simple.
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So I need to create an EXT partition first before flashing the above mentioned ROM? What are the recommended settings if any for size? And I partition through clockwork orrrr? I know there's probably an answer for all these questions but between people using UK firmware/unfamiliar terms I don't want to jump into anything without missing a step.
Just go to the userinit thread and apply it... No need to flash a whole rom... Just partition your sd and flash the zip...
I ran jf rom on my g1 for like 2 months before a rom that dramatically changed anything...
We were so gracious for just that... Be patient this is new hardware.. Look at the international development section... We have made a lot of progress in 3 weeks..
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Why waste time asking questions when you can answer them yourself?
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Why waste time asking questions when you can answer them yourself?
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I dunno, why waste time posting that question when you can simply read on if you have no advice? The strange things we do. And yes it is new hardware, hence why I ask these questions before I dive into something I'm unfamiliar with. Id rather ask questions and wait than waste hours trying to get my phone to turn on again after jumping the gun. My question that still stands is with the partitioning. With my g1, it was cut and dry on Amon Ra, did it right in recovery, so is there anything like that for us vibrant owners? I've never used ADB or anything of that nature, so I come from a download and flash world, so excuse my unfamiliarity and please dont take it as me complaining that it's not easy enough to do.
Look how long it took for the g1 to get where it is at now? Eventually it will come. You think your the only who would like to have a lag free rom? If you would have done some reading on the development side, you would have noticed there were a couple of fixes and also some progress. Ask questions on those threads over there as far as the speed and if it will suit your needs.
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I dunno, why waste time posting that question when you can simply read on if you have no advice? The strange things we do. And yes it is new hardware, hence why I ask these questions before I dive into something I'm unfamiliar with. Id rather ask questions and wait than waste hours trying to get my phone to turn on again after jumping the gun. My question that still stands is with the partitioning. With my g1, it was cut and dry on Amon Ra, did it right in recovery, so is there anything like that for us vibrant owners? I've never used ADB or anything of that nature, so I come from a download and flash world, so excuse my unfamiliarity and please dont take it as me complaining that it's not easy enough to do.
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Learn ADB if you want to hack a Vibrant. Without a keyboard, we can't do shells in recovery without it. There are tutorials, so I won't repeat them. Logcat is also very useful and low level devs won't be able to help you if you run into problems and can't provide a log.
Partitioning. DO NOT USE CLOCKWORK/ROM MANAGER. Right now it will partition the phone's INTERNAL flash, which is cause boot loops and you will have to Odin flash the phone back to stock to make it boot again. Use a computer and a card reader with Paragon, Gpartd, etc.. Or a G1 with Amon RA, or adb shell into clockwork recovery and use fdisk.
EXT size, doesn't really matter. You don't need a ton. I use 1GB and it's using about 180MB. For EXT type, use ext3 with the stock kernel, or, if you install JACs kernel, ext4 is faster and more reliable.
Note that partitioning on the phone in recovery via fdisk won't format the partitions. Flash my e2fsprogs ZIP file in JACs kernel thread for the versions that support ext4.
Before you start messing with this stuff, download the stock Odin flash files from the thread in development. If you mess something up, you can get back to stock. You should also get ADB and the Samsung drivers installed. Then get Titanium backup and make backups. When you install Clockwork, do a nandroid as well. Backups are GOOD.
Keep in mind, we are in the early stages of learning how to hack on these phones. We won't get to the level the G1 is at for a while. Go read the threads in the G1 dev forum from a year ago and you will see a lot of recommendations for learning adb, partitioning manually, and all the other stuff we are doing here on the Vibrant. It's a process. If you want flash and forget, you need to wait a while still. We're working on it, but we aren't there yet. This is new hardware and a whole new way of doing things.
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Learn ADB if you want to hack a Vibrant. Without a keyboard, we can't do shells in recovery without it. There are tutorials, so I won't repeat them. Logcat is also very useful and low level devs won't be able to help you if you run into problems and can't provide a log.
Partitioning. DO NOT USE CLOCKWORK/ROM MANAGER. Right now it will partition the phone's INTERNAL flash, which is cause boot loops and you will have to Odin flash the phone back to stock to make it boot again. Use a computer and a card reader with Paragon, Gpartd, etc.. Or a G1 with Amon RA, or adb shell into clockwork recovery and use fdisk.
EXT size, doesn't really matter. You don't need a ton. I use 1GB and it's using about 180MB. For EXT type, use ext3 with the stock kernel, or, if you install JACs kernel, ext4 is faster and more reliable.
Note that partitioning on the phone in recovery via fdisk won't format the partitions. Flash my e2fsprogs ZIP file in JACs kernel thread for the versions that support ext4.
Before you start messing with this stuff, download the stock Odin flash files from the thread in development. If you mess something up, you can get back to stock. You should also get ADB and the Samsung drivers installed. Then get Titanium backup and make backups. When you install Clockwork, do a nandroid as well. Backups are GOOD.
Keep in mind, we are in the early stages of learning how to hack on these phones. We won't get to the level the G1 is at for a while. Go read the threads in the G1 dev forum from a year ago and you will see a lot of recommendations for learning adb, partitioning manually, and all the other stuff we are doing here on the Vibrant. It's a process. If you want flash and forget, you need to wait a while still. We're working on it, but we aren't there yet. This is new hardware and a whole new way of doing things.
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Thank you very much. Now this is a respectable response. i'll find some time next week to learn this ADB stuff.
joe.kerwin said:
I dunno, why waste time posting that question when you can simply read on if you have no advice? The strange things we do. And yes it is new hardware, hence why I ask these questions before I dive into something I'm unfamiliar with. Id rather ask questions and wait than waste hours trying to get my phone to turn on again after jumping the gun. My question that still stands is with the partitioning. With my g1, it was cut and dry on Amon Ra, did it right in recovery, so is there anything like that for us vibrant owners? I've never used ADB or anything of that nature, so I come from a download and flash world, so excuse my unfamiliarity and please dont take it as me complaining that it's not easy enough to do.
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No one is asking you to take a chance on bricking your phone hard or soft. I was implying more that you could learn or develop your knowledge of what others have placed in front of you. Everything takes time, rather "wasting" it on a procedure you don't understand, "waste" it on learning it, then do it. You have everything you want to know right in front of you. If you searched and read hard enough you'd now be able to "answer the questions yourself" to where you understand it.
Oh and just to let you know there is a flashable "lag-free" Rom in the Dev forum. While its bare, it is still doing wonders on this phone!
@ttabbal- You're the man!!! Don't know how you do it... lol
could someone that doesn't mind walking me through the correct partitioning method and getting this rom to work at it's max.. send me a private message so we can talk through gtalk tonight?. Im a fast learner, just purchased an 8gb class 4 sd card. I want to be safe.
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@ttabbal- You're the man!!! Don't know how you do it... lol
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I'm glad my stuff has been useful to the community. I'm a little shocked to see it integrated into a ROM and a kernel so far.
As for how I do it, what's the quote about standing on the shoulders of giants? I learned a ton reading posts and scripts from Cyanogen, Firerat, Eugene, and many others. Combine that with running Linux boxes for a few years, and you pick up enough to contribute a bit. Most of what I'm doing is adapting G1 hacks to work on the Vibrant, but I'm glad people like them.
Now if we could just get Samsung to give us decent GPS and compass drivers, maybe a tasty Froyo?
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How is it working for you?
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Haven't tried it yet, my friend.
I'm using the patch mentioned above.
I am also using ADW instead of TouchWiz, which seems to help quite a bit.
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How beneficial is it to do this? Should I wait for better ROMs? I am nervous about rooting my device as many are defective after a week or two and need shipped back.
Hey guys,
I am new to flashing and rooting and stuff and am needing some help with all this. I'm kinda getting lost in the forums, reading all this stuff I have a stock Vibrant that i want to root and put a Froyo rom on it. I am currently on 2.1 of course. Can anyone kinda guide me through this?
Thanks!
I would suggest starting here:
Vibrant Guides
And here:
Newb Guide
Get the basics and understand what you will be doing. These guides can help you allot. If then you still don't understand then come back with a more specific question.
Good luck and have fun!
everything is here hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732458 (change xx for tt). read, its good for you
Thanks guys, I'm going to have to read this more carefully apparently. Let me ask this before i do anything to the phone. What backup program should i get if i need to restore it back to stock everything? I want to make sure i have that done before i try any of this. I've done Iphones and stuff, unlocking them and jailbreaking them, those were a piece of cake, but never done a custom rom on an android phone before, nor have i ever rooted one. so im kinda nervous at all this
you should make a nandroid backup, that will be a failsafe but your lifesaver will be odin. when you think you bricked your phone it will rise from the grave. i love odin
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Thanks guys, I'm going to have to read this more carefully apparently. Let me ask this before i do anything to the phone. What backup program should i get if i need to restore it back to stock everything? I want to make sure i have that done before i try any of this. I've done Iphones and stuff, unlocking them and jailbreaking them, those were a piece of cake, but never done a custom rom on an android phone before, nor have i ever rooted one. so im kinda nervous at all this
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Use Odin to get back to Stock. The Bible in the Development thread has the links for Odin download, also the links for the stock android ROMs to odin back to. Make sure you can get into the Download mode before doing anything. Especially using your hardware keys. (to verify that your phone is not hardware locked). If it is you have to install the JI6 to get the hardware key issue fixed.
Also read the wiki page http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S_SGH-T959
my noob guide (signature) has videos... you can use your pc (ODIN) and have a rooted 2.2 phone in like 2 minutes!
sisco22 said:
Hey guys,
I am new to flashing and rooting and stuff and am needing some help with all this. I'm kinda getting lost in the forums, reading all this stuff I have a stock Vibrant that i want to root and put a Froyo rom on it. I am currently on 2.1 of course. Can anyone kinda guide me through this?
Thanks!
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Hey bud. If you need some visual help, I should have my videos up by tonight and ready for viewing tomorrow morning. I've dubbed it my choose your own samsung vibrant adventure, so hopefully you can see what it looks like and get your questions answered.
thanks guys, the videos are a big help. 2 things that im trying to find is the Odin download and the Nandroid download. Can't seem to find a link for those.
^ the noob guide has a link to download ODIN (and the files needed).
The ALT METHOD listed is Froyo with root already enabled... doesnt get much easier! It's in my signature, or the sticky in the Q&A section.
Also, to clarify, once you use ODIN and flash this (which gives you froyo+root) you can download Rom Manager from the market.... you use it to instal clockwork recovery.... you use clockwork recovery to make a nandroid backup of your system. You can't do this until you have root.
This link should get you to where you can download what you need:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771111
^ to even make it THAT much easier.... here is the thread that I was referencing (and is in the sticky)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=799105
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^ to even make it THAT much easier.... here is the thread that I was referencing (and is in the sticky)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=799105
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Thanks! I was looking at it and i found this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...ost in all this stuff haha! its alot of info.
^ please read both sticky's in my signature before you proceed. If you read those, this is very straight-forward.
You would need to root and download rom manager
install clockwork recovery
move the .zip to sdcard/ (internal memory)
reboot into recovery
flash the file
reboot
but please read my guide... if it doesnt make it obvious, please let me know what needs to be updated.
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^ please read both sticky's in my signature before you proceed. If you read those, this is very straight-forward.
You would need to root and download rom manager
install clockwork recovery
move the .zip to sdcard/ (internal memory)
reboot into recovery
flash the file
reboot
but please read my guide... if it doesnt make it obvious, please let me know what needs to be updated.
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Thanks for your help! I finally understand all of it. Apparently the Flash Clockworks didn't install correctly...so when i tried to open the zip it would open. I installed Axura on it just now and it looks like its running smoothly! Thanks for everyone's help and sticking with me!
Hey guys, got my mytouch 4g on opening day and I loveeeee every part of it. Coming from an unlocked iphone. I've been reading about flashing roms, kernels, visionary, terminal, and things like that and I have NO idea what any of those mean nor what to do. I really hate the bloatware that comes on my phone and I'd love to learn everything behind rooting. I've been reading around but I can't really seem to understand this stuff!
any help would be appreciated,
thank you
Ok to flash a rom you first need to root your phone, to root your phone follow this very simple guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858021
then when you reach the flashing portion of that tutorial download the iced glacier rom from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844594, then flash it by following the previously mentioned tutorial.
the iced glacier rom is pretty much the same as the default rom that came with the phone, without all the bloatware plus a few aesthetic differences.
enjoy
Okay I'll help you out. Flashing roms is like upgrading from 3.x firmware in iphone, to 4.0. Different roms offer different things. Ex-iced glacier rom. It is still stock rom but without the bloatware that T-Mobile put in. So each rom offer different things and different features if you will. The cyanogenmod rom is highly sought because of its stock froyo. Froyo is just the os. The mytouch has froyo but it has espresso instead of stock. Espresso with sense ui (mytouch 4g) allows things like automatic speakerphone if you put your phone face down while on a call. Little features like that are what make different os desirable. Keep in mind that sense ui slows down phone and can make buggy.
Terminal. Terminal emulator is like command prompt for windows.you can have your phone perform certain functions or change files through terminal emulator. Like if you downloaded a file and you wanted it to run through terminal emulator, all ud have to do is type in the path, then the file, and it will do its thing. Kind of like when you jailbreak an iphone and wanna change the Alpine and root login since its the default username, you would have to use terminal (assuming you have) I too came from iphone world.
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Visionary allows you to "jailbreak" your android phone. You can customize it greatly like the iPhone should you have the right files and edit the right folders. Visionary gives you the administrator access you need to write to the actual system on the phone allowing you to do anything to your phone.
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And mods. Mods are moderators in xda. They regulate forums which I'm sure you know. These types of topics go into "general" or "Q&A" forums. Android development gets filled with software, mods, roms, anything that will progress the development of the phone, not questions. Just letting you know for future references as the moderator will probably tell you as well
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wow thanks for the information guys!
couple more questions though,
what do people mean when they refer to nandroid backups, titanium backups, and kernels? how would i back up my files?
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Hey guys, got my mytouch 4g on opening day and I loveeeee every part of it. Coming from an unlocked iphone. I've been reading about flashing roms, kernels, visionary, terminal, and things like that and I have NO idea what any of those mean nor what to do. I really hate the bloatware that comes on my phone and I'd love to learn everything behind rooting. I've been reading around but I can't really seem to understand this stuff!
any help would be appreciated,
thank you
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First, if you have questions (usually thoughts starting with who, what,where, when, why or how) they should be posted in the Q&A section, and I'm sure when the mod logs in it will be moved.
Second, there are at least 4 guides in this section outlining how to root. If you're trying to follow one of the particular guides and have a question do NOT start a new thread, ask your question in the guide and the OP will often answer your question or work with you (especially grankin01 he's really good about it). Also if the person who wrote the guide is busy the community is generally willing to help you with your issues as well.
Third, if you don't want to flash a custom rom and are just concerned with getting rid of bloat, you can (after following a rooting guide and attaining S-OFF) install Titanium Backup. Titanium Backup will allow you to uninstall system applications. I used it to remove about 15 programs Tmo put on there that I don't want/need (ie. game demos, demo video, etc)
Fourth, I'm not trying to be a ****. just trying to show you the error of your ways. I realize you're pretty new so welcome to the community.
spazmenos said:
wow thanks for the information guys!
couple more questions though,
what do people mean when they refer to nandroid backups, titanium backups, and kernels? how would i back up my files?
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Kernel = the core of an operating system. Android runs linux so it's referring to the linux kernel within the operating system. Different kernels are compiled with different options making them able to act differently at a deep level within the operating system. (ie. allowing overclocking)
nandroid = a snapshot of your system essentially. It allows you to back the system up to a precise period in time. This is done through the system's recovery, and is highly encouraged to be done before you take any steps which could cripple your phone (ie. flashing a new rom)
Titanium Backup = A program on market which allows for the removal of protected system applications. You can also make backups of individual applications (recommended before removing)
no worries man I totally understand! I'll make sure to post in author's threads as well thanks. thing is when I see people with their sigs saying kernel and rom and backup I get so confused
It's cool man none of us here knows everything... in the future though consulting google may answer all your questions. BUT if it doesn't feel free to ask away. we just ask that it's posted in the correct section to avoid clutter.
spazmenos ... please be very very careful. I'm sure you're doing the right things by asking lots of questions (and you should!) but I'd be worried that you would turn your phone into a very expensive paperweight. If you have any friends IRL that have root-ed android phones before, perhaps you could sit with them and go through it?
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Hey guys, got my mytouch 4g on opening day and I loveeeee every part of it. Coming from an unlocked iphone. I've been reading about flashing roms, kernels, visionary, terminal, and things like that and I have NO idea what any of those mean nor what to do. I really hate the bloatware that comes on my phone and I'd love to learn everything behind rooting. I've been reading around but I can't really seem to understand this stuff!
any help would be appreciated,
thank you
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Nandroid is a backup of EVERYTHING. System configuration, call logs, text messages, everything. Say you flash a rom, rom causes problems, nandroid brings everything back to the way it was, providing you can get into recovery mode that is. Recovery mode lets you swap out roms ie. Flashing
Titanium backup is the single most needed app. You can do a backup of just about any app. You can delete apps as well. You don't want bloatware? Titanium backup is the app to do it. Before you delete ANYTHING nandroid backup. To do this download rom manager. Must be rooted first. Click on flash recovery, HTC mytouch 4g. Then make a backup of current rom. To see if it worked, click on reboot into recovery. If you see a bunch if options your good. If you see a red triangle, reflash clockwork. After you see the options they will have fastboot, recovery, image circ, etc. Recovery is where all the magic happens
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do you have to have perma-root to make a nandroid backup? I ran visionar and then tried to make a nandroid of the current OS in clockwork mod, and it said SU wasn't detected?
EDIT: I had to root it like three times with visionary, but it seems to have worked now.
Let me apologize for being a newbie as I come from 5 years of using Windows Mobile and just got my first Tab/Android 2 weeks ago. This is all new to me.
After messing up with some system files and factory applications (like I removed stk.apk and other things) I decided to do a full hardware reset. This is something I did many times in Windows Mobile... whats bad get overwriten in ROM and whats missing gets back where it was. But is seems on this Tab this is not the case.
After the full resetthings only got dramatically worse. All the missing system apps are still missing (I thought they be "restored") and nothing works, just crashes one after the next, cant use anything. I also tried with the system off the method of pressing and holding the “Volume Up” and “Power” buttons at the same time, then after recovery screen appears navigate and select “wipe data / Factory reset” and pressing the “Home” button, but after that and the system re-starts, same thing! All bad.
Can someone please explain to me how to do a full rstore where all system files, all and everythign gets back as it was in the Tab as it was shipped? What a flippin' nightmare... Windows Mobile, I love you!
Thanks in advance.
settings/privacy/factory reset.
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settings/privacy/factory reset.
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No no, that doesnt restore anything! All missing files dont get restored. I need a full stock ROM image and restore EVERYTHING. Thats what I dont know where to get and how to do...
VeEuzUKY said:
No no, that doesnt restore anything! All missing files dont get restored. I need a full stock ROM image and restore EVERYTHING. Thats what I dont know where to get and how to do...
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Yeh i realized that after reading your post properly sorry man, i guess you can just flash one of roms found here, like rotos or modaco's JMI, that would atlest give you a work tab till you can find a stock samsung rom
If you dont have cwm installed you can flash with odin or heidmill (sp)
natious said:
Yeh i realized that after reading your post properly sorry man, i guess you can just flash one of roms found here, like rotos or modaco's JMI, that would atlest give you a work tab till you can find a stock samsung rom
If you dont have cwm installed you can flash with odin or heidmill (sp)
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Yeah, I enever flashed the Tab. Can U advise me on a stable "OK" ROM? Where can i find odin or heidmill and some sort of a guide to help me step-by-step? I have positively no clue what I am doing... sorry for my ignorance... I feel thoroughly stupid...
I got lucky and found this site. Hope yours is a Verizon Tab
I'm not allowed to post links. But go to google type in "galaxy tab system restore" and click on the "[How TO] Restore VZW Galaxy Tab to stock DJ11" link
It's in the droidforums. net
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Yeah, I enever flashed the Tab. Can U advise me on a stable "OK" ROM? Where can i find odin or heidmill and some sort of a guide to help me step-by-step? I have positively no clue what I am doing... sorry for my ignorance... I feel thoroughly stupid...
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First of all, you need to post what "type" of Tab you have, which is generally going to be determined by your country and/or carrier.
Flashing a new Android ROM isn't a particularly complicated process, but it can seem daunting if you've not done it before - this is especially true when using Odin or Heimdall over a "recovery" based flash.
FWIW, the reason your "factory reset" didn't work is because all is essentially does it reformat the /data partition (a generalisation, but close enough for these purposes). On a stock Tab, you cannot mount /system as read/write, so you are unable to change the contents of that partition. This means that on a stock Tab, /system should never change.
However, when you root the device you give yourself the ability to remount /system as read/write and thus make changes which are not going to affected by a factory reset.
Take a look at this thread - lots of useful information there!
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
First of all, you need to post what "type" of Tab you have, which is generally going to be determined by your country and/or carrier.
Flashing a new Android ROM isn't a particularly complicated process, but it can seem daunting if you've not done it before - this is especially true when using Odin or Heimdall over a "recovery" based flash.
FWIW, the reason your "factory reset" didn't work is because all is essentially does it reformat the /data partition (a generalisation, but close enough for these purposes). On a stock Tab, you cannot mount /system as read/write, so you are unable to change the contents of that partition. This means that on a stock Tab, /system should never change.
However, when you root the device you give yourself the ability to remount /system as read/write and thus make changes which are not going to affected by a factory reset.
Take a look at this thread - lots of useful information there!
Regards,
Dave
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Thanks for the link... yes Ive seen that master thread... I just keep reading from link to link and thread to thread and all gets more complicated, I keep downloading more files and installing more stuff but in the end Im more confused and positively going no where. There is not one simple, from start to finish guideline on how to do the process of wiping all data and installing a new ROM. Ive done this endless times on many phones under WinMo, and with more or less difficulty never had any problems getting this done. But here, the more I read the more utterly chaotically confused I am.
I am yet to have anyone explain what type of Tab I have. Its GSM, I think its Euro, bought in Hong Kong. I have found out all bootloaders and stuff seem to be cleaer and I should be able to flash anything. Its a GT-P1000 and Baseband P1000ZHJJ1. This is all I know.
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Thanks for the link... yes Ive seen that master thread... I just keep reading from link to link and thread to thread and all gets more complicated, I keep downloading more files and installing more stuff but in the end Im more confused and positively going no where. There is not one simple, from start to finish guideline on how to do the process of wiping all data and installing a new ROM. Ive done this endless times on many phones under WinMo, and with more or less difficulty never had any problems getting this done. But here, the more I read the more utterly chaotically confused I am.
I am yet to have anyone explain what type of Tab I have. Its GSM, I think its Euro, bought in Hong Kong. I have found out all bootloaders and stuff seem to be cleaer and I should be able to flash anything. Its a GT-P1000 and Baseband P1000ZHJJ1. This is all I know.
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Its pretty much the same as mine then, so i recommend you use modacos kernel and rom and installing cwm
cwm - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870690
Kernel - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925760
Rom - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=941423
If you have and external sd card (one that you put into the side of the tab)
You can flash the ext4 kernel via odin, its pretty simple, there will be instructions in the threads.
Are you still able to go on the market? If so download the cwm app and use that so you get the awesome recovery menu and features, you can then use it to flash a new rom and make backups that are really really easy to restore. Seeing it looks like you like to mess around with stuff i suggest it the best way to go.
Hope this helps
Ok thanks for the tips. I have finally managed to get the Tab working again and flashed it with Roto JMI Pre-Rooted Firmware v2. All seems OK at this point. Ill check the links you sent me and follow-up. Flashing Roto JMI Pre-Rooted Firmware v2 with Odin3 1.7 is easy so I hope modacos kernel and rom and installing cwm are easy as well.
A little off topic:
I just got my SGT on Friday and want to root&/flash custom ROM. Gonna definitely root soon...But thinking of holding off on the custom ROM until CM7 is stable or a nice clean Honeycomb ROM is cooked
Does ClockWorkMod require root? I know Titanium Backup does. Can't really do any "fun" things with the tab until it's rooted it seems.
I have an iconia tab getting shipped to me as of this post. I fairly knowledgeable about rooting and roms ( have done many roms and recovery from my cell phone).
I am sorry if some was explained on different threads, figured I would just ask them all here.
Since I haven't messed with the os at all, is there a lot of advantages from stock os to custom os?
Is there any reason to create a ext partition on sd.?
Is custom recovery installed easy, hopefully not uninstall to easy.?
Is there anyways to get data from Titanium backup on the tablet.
I am sure I may have a few more questions when I receive the tablet.
Any help on these questions would be great.
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All your questions are answered in the forums. You'll get your answers MUCH faster if you follow the rules and actually search before asking.
To be helpful, I'll give you ONE of the answers.
Custom recovery is very easy to install IF you don't have a 3.2.1 ROM preinstalled. If you have this version, you can still install but it's a more complex process. Read the guides in the development section and DO NOT attempt to use ROM manager or a generic CWM.
if you root you can use drivemount to be able to use external hd's formatted in ntfs. Which is the reason I rooted.
1. There's no general answer, as it depends on the ROM you use (some are more-or-less stock, others aren't even based on Acer stock)
2. I haven't had any reason to do anything like that, as I keep basically only my apps (with their data) and my linux chroot on the internal memory... Other than that, search the forum for instructions on how to switch internal <-> external memory (just a config hack, nothing spectacular and completely reversible)
3. It used to be almost ridiculously easy, but a recent update made it more complex. Details are in the forum (and partly in FloatingFatMan's post above).
4. As Titanium backup even runs fine on ICS, you'd expect it to work on HC... which it does.
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All your questions are answered in the forums. You'll get your answers MUCH faster if you follow the rules and actually search before asking.
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I did do a some searches already , and found a lot of information. The people here are always helpful so I thought instead of just asking one question that I didn't know the answer to I would ask all of them I had.
To be honest I do love loading roms and enjoy the phone rooted atm, but a tablet is much more expensive device and want to try to avoid any conflicts with roms (There are so many I do not know where to start).
Here is my plans on the tablet atm.
Root it, load custom recovery (Clockwork?)
Doing a Nandroid backup of stock rom.
Loading Titanium backup and possibly transfering some data from the phone SD to acer sd, such as psx roms, and other misc stuff.
will look into different roms and see what works for my needs and hopefully avoid the rom cycle that I see with phone roms ,( Seems 3 month and support drops and different projects happen).
Plan on trying stock rom a little rooted before going into custom roms.
This is my current plan, but if anyone else has some suggestions that would be great.
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Custom recovery is very easy to install IF you don't have a 3.2.1 ROM preinstalled.
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No, actually its still really easy you just have an extra step.
download the 3.0 downgrade
place it on sd card root directory
reboot holding volume down and power
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profit!
after that, just run iconiaroot and acer recovery installer (install both before downgrading) and you're golden, root with CWM. flash a rooted 3.2.1 stock or custom, its that easy.
you are right about one thing though, you can easily find the answer to every question in this thread on these forums.
edit- also, TC, i've found the most stable and functional roms to be stock. i ran a few customs (the best of which was flexstriker) but always found stock to run better and be the most stable, both the rooted 3.2.1 a500 rom and the rooted 3.2.1 a200 port have been great for me. you can go custom if you want, I'm just putting in my two cents.