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When I found out that 2.2 wasnt coming out from this phone I decided that I would root the phone and load a 2.2 ROM, etc. etc. So I started researching all of these about 2 days ago... and for the past 2 days I have read so much information on this that I am now currently so mixed up and lost. There are soooo many different ROMs, different ways to do this, that, etc. I see some people do one thing that it works great, another person do the exact same thing and they havent the same luck.
Even when getting ready to just root the phone, I found an awesome post that had great information... but, then when I looked at it the post was from 7 months ago and in the N1 forums. So, I started to 2nd guess.
I suppose basically what Im in need of is possibly a normal/basic recommendation to get moving on this... Would a possible recommendation be to root the phone with the 1 click root being run through a file manager, then create a nandroid backup, then go with something popular like Cyanogen6 RC1? Its just that mod -seems- to be what a good bit of people have, and problems seem limited on it. But then again, ive read about 10 other ROMs that appear to be just as good, and people like just as well... so agian, this choice leaves me frozen as well.
Im just so overwhelmed with information ive just about frozen up... I think it need to bring it back to a basic simple plan to get moving on this. Everything I read in these forums sounds so awesome and just plain ole fun.... but like I said im currently frozen/lost. Please help if my request isnt too much...
Thanks! Any help with this will definitely melt this horrid ice!!!
Use this to root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=753910
Just do as it says and follow directions. I rooted both of my brother's phones this way. It works.
Then do as you were thinking: nandroid then install CM6 RC1. It will probably be your best bet for a solid 2.2 experience.
here's what I posted on my carriers facebook page. I kept things simple and to the point, and the point was to install 2.2 on a hero.
1. go to settings, applications and check allow installation from unknown sources.
2. install bar code scanner from the market if you don't have it.
3. scan the qr code from here: http://bit.ly/d1f0RN
4. download and install the app
5. open universal androot and click root
6. go to the market and download rom manager
7. open rom manager and click flash clockwork mod recovery
8. click backup current rom (you can always restore your backup later to go back to exactly how your phone was)
to load the rom after rooting:
1. download both the rom and google apps from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755795
2. copy the zip files to your sd card
3. open rom manager and click install rom from sd card
4. choose the rom file you copied to the sd card and click add zip, then choose the google apps file you downloaded earlier. Click ok and choose backup current rom and wipe data.
5. Enjoy android 2.2 on your Hero!!
(be careful restoring stuff using mybackup, open source roms and htc roms don't store data the same way. applications are safe to restore but system settings can potentially break things requiring you to wipe and reload again)
Not because it is my root method, but I would actually recommend using my root method and following all of the steps. It has you flash a custom recovery and patched boot.img so you keep full root via adb.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
CM6 is the ONLY 2.2 ROM for the Hero at this point. But know that it doesn't have much of the Sprint/CDMA or HTC SenseUI functionality and stuff that you're used to from your current phone....like updating Profile and PRL; Sprint Navigation/Football/Nascar/etc.; your Contacts, Dialer, Messaging, and some other menus will be a little different....that's just a few things off the top of my head.
So if you kinda LIKE the way your phone is now (except maybe for some lag/slowness), CM6 won't be a very similar ROM. But you won't know unless you try it out Just offering some helpful info. Good luck -- we're here to help.
I have not found a 2.2 FroYo that I like for the Hero, it's rooted and running Fresh 2.3.3
http://geekfor.me/new-release/fresh-hero-233/
Awesome... the community here is absolutely incredible. Although I am literally tryin my best to read the ****in manual, I continue to fear that im reading something too old or outdated, or that there is something newer (easier) that I should be doing instead. I did the rooting with the 1click which was so simple... I cant believe I even spent that much time on it.
Thinking next the nandroid/recovery image thing would be a breeze, but it appears to almost be the hardest step. I see on most posts that they always tend to mention Nandroid for backups - is there a particular reason that I should use that one? Some other ones appear to be easier, but not as interesting or fun. However, im fearfully coming across a lack of exact guides that explain the process.
I truly think that once I can get the recovery image done, and I can start trying out other ROMs and such... this will become too much fun. But again, im getting so mixed up by should i do this, that, or maybe this... or wait, is that too old of information?
Regardless, thanks for all the help!
Download ROM Manager from the Market. From ROM Manager you can flash ClockworkMod recovery or Flash Alternate Recovery (I prefer this option RA Recovery) there is a newer relase but this works fine.
You can then reboot and go into recovery, back up your system as it is right now, that way you can always go back to the basic root version that you have right now. That my friend is a Nandriod back up. now you can install a ROM of your choice, once it is installed and functioning the way you like make a Nandriod back up of it, that way you always have a good platform to start from if anything isn't playing nice.
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When I found out that 2.2 wasnt coming out from this phone I decided that I would root the phone and load a 2.2 ROM, etc. etc. So I started researching all of these about 2 days ago... and for the past 2 days I have read so much information on this that I am now currently so mixed up and lost. There are soooo many different ROMs, different ways to do this, that, etc. I see some people do one thing that it works great, another person do the exact same thing and they havent the same luck.
Even when getting ready to just root the phone, I found an awesome post that had great information... but, then when I looked at it the post was from 7 months ago and in the N1 forums. So, I started to 2nd guess.
I suppose basically what Im in need of is possibly a normal/basic recommendation to get moving on this... Would a possible recommendation be to root the phone with the 1 click root being run through a file manager, then create a nandroid backup, then go with something popular like Cyanogen6 RC1? Its just that mod -seems- to be what a good bit of people have, and problems seem limited on it. But then again, ive read about 10 other ROMs that appear to be just as good, and people like just as well... so agian, this choice leaves me frozen as well.
Im just so overwhelmed with information ive just about frozen up... I think it need to bring it back to a basic simple plan to get moving on this. Everything I read in these forums sounds so awesome and just plain ole fun.... but like I said im currently frozen/lost. Please help if my request isnt too much...
Thanks! Any help with this will definitely melt this horrid ice!!!
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I know exactly what you mean. I've rooted my Hero the day the universal 1 click came out,but as yet have been reading everything I can on which new Rom to install first.
I went out and bought a new 16 gig sd card for more storage as well. I've been trying to read up on how and what is the best way to do all of the various partitions on it cause some say to just have a ext 2 partition,and others say have a ext3/4 partitions on it.Unfortunately I haven't found a easy way to make this happen except by using the FroydVillain 1.4.3 rom and I don't know if it will work with a cdma Sprint Hero or not yet.
I love the phone,and want to upgrade it to the best stable over clocked rom that will allow me to use it for everyday usage,but it doesn't look like it is going to easy as rooting the damn thing was. Seems to me that you need to be a programmer in Linux to make it work the best
I hate posting a bunch of neewb questions about it but I guess I will
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Awesome! Okay perfect... it worked perfect! I know have CyanogenMod running - yeah, it def different. Seems like it will take some time to get used too. Esp since its so far from SenseUI off the bat... err well, just the way that it handles things and such.
I will definitely give it a fair shot before I even try out some other ones... but I def want to try to use one of those Fresh Roms as well.
Thanks a ton for all the help! Most appreciated!
Hi everyone. I'm totally new to Android. My relative have bought an a500 for me, and I should receive it in a couple of days. I'm very eager to join you guys .
I have read your forum vigorously for 2 months, since I started looking for a tablets. And I understand the risk of using Custom ROMs, since I used them on my Samsung i8910 (I know it's obsolete, but I will stick will it).
I have some questions about my coming a500:
1/ Look like it will definitely come with stock 3.2, so if I want to root it (in order to install ROMs), I will have to revert back to earlier version. I read the guide to revert to 3.0.1 carefully, and it seems that Method 2 is much easier. Can I use that method immediately when I got my hand on the a500?
2/ I read somewhere that I will need the UID if I happen to brick my a500. Do I really need it?
3/ Can I skip the step of backing up my device, since I don't have anything on it yet?
4/ If I follow the Method 2 above, after flashing the unstable 3.0.1, I will have to root it with Iconiaroot, and then install CWD? The CWD 1.6 from tegraowners site seem complicated for me to install . Can I install Acer Recovery Installer from Market, and then update CWD to 1.6 ? To update, just download 1.6, copy to micro sd and then boot into CWD, select update option? Can anyone please give me a short guide to do this .
5/ After having a rooted 3.0.1 with CWD installed, I can flash any ROMs I want? First, download the ROM, copy to micro sd, then boot into CWD, wipe everything (data, cache, dalvik cache), then select flash from zip file?
6/ I'm thinking of getting either Taboonay or Thor's. Which one is better? I heard that Thor's is faster, but no hardware screen rotation lock (still can use software lock), and no auto-brightness. I want everything work like champ (I can accept two above bugs), I don't need GPS, but stable Wifi and Bluetooth is must-have. I need recommendation, please.
7/ I don't have plan for 3G dongle right now, but maybe in future. So in that case, which ROMs is right for me? And is getting those dongles work hard to do? I read that patching the 3g patch in Thor's 14.2 cause battery rain fast (whether the dongle is in or out).
8/ There are also some news that ICS will be released by Acer in mid Jan, so is it worth install a custom ROMs now? Or I should wait?
Thanks a lot in advance.
redguardsoldier said:
1/ Look like it will definitely come with stock 3.2, so if I want to root it (in order to install ROMs), I will have to revert back to earlier version. I read the guide to revert to 3.0.1 carefully, and it seems that Method 2 is much easier. Can I use that method immediately when I got my hand on the a500?
Answer = Yes. But seriously, you may want to check it out for a couple of hours or so, to make sure there are no defects. No sense in creating headaches if you have to return it. Also, it may come with 3.1, so check it first.
2/ I read somewhere that I will need the UID if I happen to brick my a500. Do I really need it?
Answer = Depends on how bad you screw it up. But it's always good to have the number, just in case.
3/ Can I skip the step of backing up my device, since I don't have anything on it yet?
Answer = Yes. You can skip any step you wish. Just don't come crying when you fubar your device. Always do a recovery before flashing. Unless you just like to live on the edge.
4/ If I follow the Method 2 above, after flashing the unstable 3.0.1, I will have to root it with Iconiaroot, and then install CWD? The CWD 1.6 from tegraowners site seem complicated for me to install . Can I install Acer Recovery Installer from Market, and then update CWD to 1.6 ? To update, just download 1.6, copy to micro sd and then boot into CWD, select update option? Can anyone please give me a short guide to do this .
Answer = Root it and run the Acer Recovery tool. You wanna short guide? Ok. Run Acer Recovery. Install recovery. .
5/ After having a rooted 3.0.1 with CWD installed, I can flash any ROMs I want? First, download the ROM, copy to micro sd, then boot into CWD, wipe everything (data, cache, dalvik cache), then select flash from zip file?
Answer = Yes. Please do not do a n00b move and flash a kernel instead of a rom.
6/ I'm thinking of getting either Taboonay or Thor's. Which one is better? I heard that Thor's is faster, but no hardware screen rotation lock (still can use software lock), and no auto-brightness. I want everything work like champ (I can accept two above bugs), I don't need GPS, but stable Wifi and Bluetooth is must-have. I need recommendation, please.
Answer = Try them both and decide. Both are good.
7/ I don't have plan for 3G dongle right now, but maybe in future. So in that case, which ROMs is right for me? And is getting those dongles work hard to do? I read that patching the 3g patch in Thor's 14.2 cause battery rain fast (whether the dongle is in or out).
Answer = too many dongles out there. Get one first, then come back and ask.
8/ There are also some news that ICS will be released by Acer in mid Jan, so is it worth install a custom ROMs now? Or I should wait?
Answer = If you believe that, I have a bridge in the Mohave Desert to sell you. They will release it, "when" they release it. And it will probably have a different bootloader, so the root methods may not work, which could take some more time. And, it will probably be offered on their newer Tablets first.
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redguardsoldier said:
1/ Look like it will definitely come with stock 3.2, so if I want to root it (in order to install ROMs), I will have to revert back to earlier version. I read the guide to revert to 3.0.1 carefully, and it seems that Method 2 is much easier. Can I use that method immediately when I got my hand on the a500?
Answer = Yes. But seriously, you may want to check it out for a couple of hours or so, to make sure there are no defects. No sense in creating headaches if you have to return it. Also, it may come with 3.1, so check it first.
2/ I read somewhere that I will need the UID if I happen to brick my a500. Do I really need it?
Answer = Depends on how bad you screw it up. But it's always good to have the number, just in case.
3/ Can I skip the step of backing up my device, since I don't have anything on it yet?
Answer = Yes. You can skip any step you wish. Just don't come crying when you fubar your device. Always do a recovery before flashing. Unless you just like to live on the edge.
4/ If I follow the Method 2 above, after flashing the unstable 3.0.1, I will have to root it with Iconiaroot, and then install CWD? The CWD 1.6 from tegraowners site seem complicated for me to install . Can I install Acer Recovery Installer from Market, and then update CWD to 1.6 ? To update, just download 1.6, copy to micro sd and then boot into CWD, select update option? Can anyone please give me a short guide to do this .
Answer = Root it and run the Acer Recovery tool. You wanna short guide? Ok. Run Acer Recovery. Install recovery. .
5/ After having a rooted 3.0.1 with CWD installed, I can flash any ROMs I want? First, download the ROM, copy to micro sd, then boot into CWD, wipe everything (data, cache, dalvik cache), then select flash from zip file?
Answer = Yes. Please do not do a n00b move and flash a kernel instead of a rom.
6/ I'm thinking of getting either Taboonay or Thor's. Which one is better? I heard that Thor's is faster, but no hardware screen rotation lock (still can use software lock), and no auto-brightness. I want everything work like champ (I can accept two above bugs), I don't need GPS, but stable Wifi and Bluetooth is must-have. I need recommendation, please.
Answer = Try them both and decide. Both are good.
7/ I don't have plan for 3G dongle right now, but maybe in future. So in that case, which ROMs is right for me? And is getting those dongles work hard to do? I read that patching the 3g patch in Thor's 14.2 cause battery rain fast (whether the dongle is in or out).
Answer = too many dongles out there. Get one first, then come back and ask.
8/ There are also some news that ICS will be released by Acer in mid Jan, so is it worth install a custom ROMs now? Or I should wait?
Answer = If you believe that, I have a bridge in the Mohave Desert to sell you. They will release it, "when" they release it. And it will probably have a different bootloader, so the root methods may not work, which could take some more time. And, it will probably be offered on their newer Tablets first.
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Great answer, great sense of humor lol
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Moscow Desire said:
redguardsoldier said:
1/ Look like it will definitely come with stock 3.2, so if I want to root it (in order to install ROMs), I will have to revert back to earlier version. I read the guide to revert to 3.0.1 carefully, and it seems that Method 2 is much easier. Can I use that method immediately when I got my hand on the a500?
Answer = Yes. But seriously, you may want to check it out for a couple of hours or so, to make sure there are no defects. No sense in creating headaches if you have to return it. Also, it may come with 3.1, so check it first.
2/ I read somewhere that I will need the UID if I happen to brick my a500. Do I really need it?
Answer = Depends on how bad you screw it up. But it's always good to have the number, just in case.
3/ Can I skip the step of backing up my device, since I don't have anything on it yet?
Answer = Yes. You can skip any step you wish. Just don't come crying when you fubar your device. Always do a recovery before flashing. Unless you just like to live on the edge.
4/ If I follow the Method 2 above, after flashing the unstable 3.0.1, I will have to root it with Iconiaroot, and then install CWD? The CWD 1.6 from tegraowners site seem complicated for me to install . Can I install Acer Recovery Installer from Market, and then update CWD to 1.6 ? To update, just download 1.6, copy to micro sd and then boot into CWD, select update option? Can anyone please give me a short guide to do this .
Answer = Root it and run the Acer Recovery tool. You wanna short guide? Ok. Run Acer Recovery. Install recovery. .
5/ After having a rooted 3.0.1 with CWD installed, I can flash any ROMs I want? First, download the ROM, copy to micro sd, then boot into CWD, wipe everything (data, cache, dalvik cache), then select flash from zip file?
Answer = Yes. Please do not do a n00b move and flash a kernel instead of a rom.
6/ I'm thinking of getting either Taboonay or Thor's. Which one is better? I heard that Thor's is faster, but no hardware screen rotation lock (still can use software lock), and no auto-brightness. I want everything work like champ (I can accept two above bugs), I don't need GPS, but stable Wifi and Bluetooth is must-have. I need recommendation, please.
Answer = Try them both and decide. Both are good.
7/ I don't have plan for 3G dongle right now, but maybe in future. So in that case, which ROMs is right for me? And is getting those dongles work hard to do? I read that patching the 3g patch in Thor's 14.2 cause battery rain fast (whether the dongle is in or out).
Answer = too many dongles out there. Get one first, then come back and ask.
8/ There are also some news that ICS will be released by Acer in mid Jan, so is it worth install a custom ROMs now? Or I should wait?
Answer = If you believe that, I have a bridge in the Mohave Desert to sell you. They will release it, "when" they release it. And it will probably have a different bootloader, so the root methods may not work, which could take some more time. And, it will probably be offered on their newer Tablets first.
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1/ My a500 is the BestBuy 229usd version, specs reviews said that it come with 3.2. I think my relative got enough time playing with it before hand it to me .
2/ Ok, I will get my UID, and store it somewhere, just in case .
3/ Did you mean backup the recovery image?
4/ Thks.
5/ I understand kernel vs ROM .
6&7/ Ok, look like I will go with Thor's. Since I know that Huawei dongles are working, I will exchange my gf's E173 for a new one. Anyway, haven't decide to go with 3g or not yet.
8/ Ok, stick to custom ROM .
Thanks a lot for your answers.
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kjy2010 said:
Great answer, great sense of humor lol
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Yeah, things have been way to serious around here lately
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redguardsoldier said:
Moscow Desire said:
3/ Did you mean backup the recovery image?
Answer = Not exactly. Before you make major changes like flash a rom/kernel, you should boot your tab to recovery, and make your recovery image from there. This generally creates the file on your sd card, where it's generally safe when you do your 3 wipes and flash.
6&7/ Ok, look like I will go with Thor's. Since I know that Huawei dongles are working, I will exchange my gf's E173 for a new one. Anyway, haven't decide to go with 3g or not yet.
Answer = Like I said, play with a couple of the roms out there. After you do this a couple times, you can flash 1 in about 10 minutes or less. Generally, you get a good feel for a rom within the first 30 minutes after flashing. Before loading it up with apps and customizing. Also, some kernels work better with some roms.
8/ Ok, stick to custom ROM .
Answer = Yeah, I think it's going to be awhile til a good solid usable version of ICS comes along. The devs are making good process and actually have something good enough for a daily driver... sort of, but, the real strides will be made after some of the newer devices are released. Best to wait for awhile, especially if your device is "mission critical", like mine. But it's ok to flash some of the stuff in work.
Thanks a lot for your answers.
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No Problem. Welcome to the "Gang"
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I bought it and it appears to have ICS because the Android version is 4.0.3 but that is all I really know right now. I expect that it was never updated OTA though because the guy I bought it off had it for 2 months and he was not the one who rooted it. I was going to leave it as is because I bought it for my 10 year old daughter...but the camera takes very blurry, kind of grainy looking pictures.
I am not afraid to root because I had a Samsung Fascinate and I loved the custom roms I downloaded to it. It had been over a year since i had the Fascinate so i am a little rusty when it comes to all if this. My problem is not knowing where to start with this A500 because I am unsure what has already been done to it.
The guy who sold it to me said he did a factory restore, but when I ran the check root app it does state that it's rooted and I figured it was because there is a app called superuser on the device. I don't know what kernal it has. I don't know if it has a bootloader and/or the version number. I don't know if it has CWM and/or the version. number.
What is the best way to proceed? By the way, the tablet is very clean with absolutely no scratches anywhere. Not a bad buy for $175 with a leather case...
Setting > About tablet. That should tell you quite a bit of info about it no?
download the acer recovery app , it will tell you what Bootloader you have and what recovery
Thanks for the replies! When I get home I will check. I don't want to brick the thing. I ordered a micro SD today and I will get it in 2 days so there is no hurry for me to proceed. Is it worth it to keep it rooted? Is the OTA ICS good enough? I don't think my daughter cares if the tablet is overclocked but if the roms are much better than stock than I would keep it rooted and then download a preferred rom.
Vintage144, in another post you specified that there is a Acer recovery beta...will I need that or would I just get the one from google play? Also when I find out which version of recovery and bootloader I have...I am not sure what to do with the information. Could AfterOta help me accomplish what I want if my goal is to try and fix her camera issue...either by going back to stock or updating the kernal and rom.
I don't want to seem like a noob but my only rooting experience was with my Fascinate which I did everything from stock. Now that I am not coming from stock, I am unsure where to go with what I have. It's like trying to get to a goal but not sure what step to start at. If I was starting from stock I could follow some of the threads here but it's not stock.
What info will I need to post here to let you guys know what is in my A500? I know that the Android version is 4.0.3 , what else will I need to post?
well the beta copy I believe is at thors tegra forum , but its by euclids brother (thats his name on xda) anyway if you've upgraded your BL it will tell you version you have and might give you accurate Recovery as well, if the device is only for your daughter and she's too young to really do anything I would stick with a stock rom and realistically I would upgrade the boot loader , why be left behind?
Theres no reason to root if you dont plan on doing anything major with it,that being said you wont be able to get a newer Boot Loader or custom recovery without it, and custom recovery is well worth the effort!
You guys are the pros so I will take your advise. I don't mind it being rooted and if there are some really nice roms I expect my daughter would like the different looks...it would seperate hers from others.
Android
4.0.3
Kernel version
2.6.39.4+
Image version
Acer_AV041_A500_RV16RB02_WW_GEN1
Build number
KJY2010lcylicious
Anything else I will get when I get home.
I would like to know how to get through all this in case I decide to get myself a A500 it's a really nice tablet.
Okay
Recovery Version: Revamped for Iconia 3.16
Bootloader Version: 3.01
With all the above information what would be my next step?
Sorry
Recovery Version: RA Revamed for Iconia 3.16
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You're already running an older custom rom...
You have root - your words not mine...
You can download another custom rom, put it on the sd card/ internal memory and reboot into recovery. You need to wipe cache, dalvik cache and do a data wipe(factory reset) after which you can install zip from sd card. Go to the rom zip file you put there and install...
Wait until it boots...
I don't know if you're running the new ICS bootloaders or not.
BEFORE FLASHING - make a nandroid backup. If things go bad then you can go back and restore the tab to before the flash...
It's worth getting your CPUID and keeping it safe somewhere and you might think about installing the ICS bootloaders (I'd do it just to be sure I have them) but thats you're choice...
Good luck...
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You're already running an older custom rom...
You have root - your words not mine...
You can download another custom rom, put it on the sd card/ internal memory and reboot into recovery. You need to wipe cache, dalvik cache and do a data wipe(factory reset) after which you can install zip from sd card. Go to the rom zip file you put there and install...
Wait until it boots...
I don't know if you're running the new ICS bootloaders or not.
BEFORE FLASHING - make a nandroid backup. If things go bad then you can go back and restore the tab to before the flash...
It's worth getting your CPUID and keeping it safe somewhere and you might think about installing the ICS bootloaders (I'd do it just to be sure I have them) but thats you're choice...
Good luck...
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Probably want to hold off on flashing roms a second.
He's running an HC Bootloader. I'm 99% sure of this. Reason, RA Revamped 3.16 doesn't work with ICS Bootloaders. So you can install an ICS Rom, but, it has to be an ICS Rom for the HC Bootloader. And the performance under HC BL is not near as good as ICS BL.
I would do like UltraMag mentioned as far as install steps and such. It's how we install roms.
Check this thread;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622425 (steps 1-6)
, and install an unlocked ICS Bootloader and a CWM 7 or 7.2 recovery. Then install one of the Roms made for the ICS Bootloader.
I know AfterOTA will do some of this for you. But this thread gives a good idea of what's going on.
Thanks for your help. I will be getting my micro sd card on Friday. In the mean time I will do a bunch of reading about the things you guys told me to do...again thanks a lot. I really appreciate the help.
I am the kind of person that really wants to know what I am doing...I don't expect all the answers, I just don't want to brick this device.
Forstir9,
Moscow Desire is a great dev on this board, his information about updating the bootloader is dead on. I recommend reading the entire OP in that thread, and then re-read section listed as Automated Flashing Tools, it really helps tremendously if you are a person familiar with root, but not extremely dynamic with making these changes.
I've rooted several BN Nooks and my A500 many many times and love it. I had the Honeylicious ROM that you listed prior to what I'm currently running. KYJ had a great HC ROM with that one! Personal preference currently for me on the ICS ROM is FLEXREAPER from Civato, poster of the referenced article from MD above, you can find that ROM info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22964651&postcount=1 Lots of cool features and step by step directions, which are what UltraMag69 listed in their post. There are many many different options though and I recommend reviewing several and then settling in on one when you find the one that fits your (or your daughter's) preferences best.
If you enjoy doing this and playing with the tablet your daughter may not keep it and may end up getting something different, because you may have too much fun with it...good luck, have fun, don't be scared to try things and ask questions (after you read first), and most importantly BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP...
Good luck,
-DB
Let me get this straight then.
1) boot into recovery and make a nandroid backup.
2) within that backup I should be able to find the CPUID on my sdcard...I will want to write this down and the write it down again somewhere else...out this number on my phone and computer...pretty much don't lose this number.
3) follow steps 1-6 from the link that Moscow Desire posted.
I am going to go with the Flexreaper rom...should I go with the extreme one or is there another Flexreaper rom that isn't extreme?
4) I think the 6 steps above will install a ICS bootloader
5) find and install the newest recovery
I only have 2 questions
How many of these steps does the Afterota app get Rid of?
Should I use the Acer recovery app to install the bootloader and/or the recovery?
forstir9 said:
Let me get this straight then.
1) boot into recovery and make a nandroid backup.
2) within that backup I should be able to find the CPUID on my sdcard...I will want to write this down and the write it down again somewhere else...out this number on my phone and computer...pretty much don't lose this number.
3) follow steps 1-6 from the link that Moscow Desire posted.
I am going to go with the Flexreaper rom...should I go with the extreme one or is there another Flexreaper rom that isn't extreme?
4) I think the 6 steps above will install a ICS bootloader
5) find and install the newest recovery
I only have 2 questions
How many of these steps does the Afterota app get Rid of?
Should I use the Acer recovery app to install the bootloader and/or the recovery?
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First off. Thanks for thinking I am the "God" of the 501". Yeah, I know it pretty well.
Second, Ultramag, is is one of my right hand men. So I suggest you heed his advice well. I always trust his judgement. Am sure he has puled my arse out of the wringer a few times. Well, maybe not, but you get the picture. Some of us on XDA, support each other. That's how it is. I just noticed the bootloader version, And being one who likes flashing experimental code, well, I noticed.
So;
1. ALWAYS make a recovery backup. Then, restore it to make sure it works. (lots of people don't do this and they get fubar'd later).
2. UID. Seriously. Ok, the link on the many ways to get it. You don't want to get it, well... your;e pretty much fubar'd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1624645
3. He has the normal, and one with a kernel you can overclock. Your choice. Really, if you don't OC, then you run the same as the original. Please don't ask me the names of Civatos roms. The extreme will be fine for you. Just don't overclock it if you don't want to. Only difference is the kernel. Not the OS.
4. Yes.
5. For recovery, I would say CWM 1.7.2. Should work for you. 1.7.0 is also ok. Publick recovery is ok too.
6. Never ran After OTA. But hear it is good when you already have ICS.
Forget AcerRecovery. You will already have bootloaders and recovery installed.
MD
Know I'll probably get a bashing out of this but there's a V1.7.3 recovery on the site that must not be named (cough, tegraowners, cough) that supports the Aroma installer - on Thor's ICS rom anyway...
Just thought I'd throw that in too...
I am ready to do a backup...it's asking me what I want to backup...it has a (X) next to the following...
Boot
System
Data
Cache
Flexrom
Is this correct the way it is?
EDIT: ignore this post I didn't see page 2 -_-
Sorry that I didn't post this in Friday...but I really want to thank everyone for their help. It went very easy and it want too much different than my fascinate.
The camera still takes grainy pictures and a few apps has sounds issues but she really likes the rom a lot.
Thanks again for the help.
Hi!
I'm new here but I've been searching and reading for a while about how to flash a ROM in my A500.
I've already rooted it, but the battery doesn't run as long as it did when it wasn't rooted so I thought about flashing a ROM.
Here's my doubt, I don't use ir for very special purposes, I just use it for browsing on the Internet and such things like this. In your opinion, installing a ROM would be the solution? If so, which one would you recommend me to flash? I've readed about Thor one but I'm not quite sure about it.
Moreover, I've been reading how to flash a ROM but the most I read, the worst it is. Depending on where I read it says something different. So, on the whole, can somebody link me to a good tutorial which I could follow? I've just rooted it, but I've done nothing about the bootloader or the recovery.
Thanks to everybody.
eherranzr said:
Hi!
I'm new here but I've been searching and reading for a while about how to flash a ROM in my A500.
I've already rooted it, but the battery doesn't run as long as it did when it wasn't rooted so I thought about flashing a ROM.
Here's my doubt, I don't use ir for very special purposes, I just use it for browsing on the Internet and such things like this. In your opinion, installing a ROM would be the solution? If so, which one would you recommend me to flash? I've readed about Thor one but I'm not quite sure about it.
Moreover, I've been reading how to flash a ROM but the most I read, the worst it is. Depending on where I read it says something different. So, on the whole, can somebody link me to a good tutorial which I could follow? I've just rooted it, but I've done nothing about the bootloader or the recovery.
Thanks to everybody.
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Rooting the tab has nothing to do with your battery life. All it does, is allow you access to the protected system of the OS. If you have no need to "experiment" with custom ROMs, and don't like to mess around with things, then it's probably best if you left it alone. If not done properly, installing new bootloaders and Recovery images can lead to a lot of time consuming problems. Just read the Q&A threads about "bricked" devices. Although Dev's try to make things as easy and trouble free as they can, problems can and do happen.
As with your battery, Take a look at Settings/Apps/Running. See how many you have running. It's possible you have some apps that are running when they don't need to. Also apps you downloaded (FB apps, Social networking, News apps etc). These apps do "synchs" and "updates" and too many of them, and also widgets, can use a lot of battery. If possible, set the synch or update period to a longer time. Instead of 5 minutes for a FB update, set it to 30. You would be surprised how much this helps.
MD
Moscow Desire said:
Rooting the tab has nothing to do with your battery life. All it does, is allow you access to the protected system of the OS. If you have no need to "experiment" with custom ROMs, and don't like to mess around with things, then it's probably best if you left it alone. If not done properly, installing new bootloaders and Recovery images can lead to a lot of time consuming problems. Just read the Q&A threads about "bricked" devices. Although Dev's try to make things as easy and trouble free as they can, problems can and do happen.
As with your battery, Take a look at Settings/Apps/Running. See how many you have running. It's possible you have some apps that are running when they don't need to. Also apps you downloaded (FB apps, Social networking, News apps etc). These apps do "synchs" and "updates" and too many of them, and also widgets, can use a lot of battery. If possible, set the synch or update period to a longer time. Instead of 5 minutes for a FB update, set it to 30. You would be surprised how much this helps.
MD
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The problem is that nothing was changed after the rooting (except the installation of Whatsapp) and after this, the battery life is, moreless, half of the original was. I've been looking in the task killer and there are plenty of apps which are auto-executed, and even if I kill them, they are still running. So my idea is to install a ROM like the Thor one, with no apps installed by default by Acer and this should make the battery last longer.
Now, what I'm not sure is what is the exact process. Correct me if I'm mistaked. What I should do first is to unlock the bootloader, shouldn't I? (Any tuto?) After this, I should install the Acer Recovery Installer app which would help me to install the recovery and after this I have to copy the .zip file to the SD card and, from the recovery menu, flash it. Is everything correct?
Thanks to everybody.
EDIT: I've already read somewhere else a ver "easy" step by step tuto. It only consists of installing an app called ROM Manager. From it install the recovery ClockworkMod and, from the recovery ClockworkMod, flash the ROM. Will this tuto work for the Iconia A500?
eherranzr said:
The problem is that nothing was changed after the rooting (except the installation of Whatsapp) and after this, the battery life is, moreless, half of the original was. I've been looking in the task killer and there are plenty of apps which are auto-executed, and even if I kill them, they are still running. So my idea is to install a ROM like the Thor one, with no apps installed by default by Acer and this should make the battery last longer.
Now, what I'm not sure is what is the exact process. Correct me if I'm mistaked. What I should do first is to unlock the bootloader, shouldn't I? (Any tuto?) After this, I should install the Acer Recovery Installer app which would help me to install the recovery and after this I have to copy the .zip file to the SD card and, from the recovery menu, flash it. Is everything correct?
Thanks to everybody.
EDIT: I've already read somewhere else a ver "easy" step by step tuto. It only consists of installing an app called ROM Manager. From it install the recovery ClockworkMod and, from the recovery ClockworkMod, flash the ROM. Will this tuto work for the Iconia A500?
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DO NOT INSTALL OR USE ROM MANAGER. You will brick your tablet. That app,is made for phones, and phones only.
What you need to do, is go to Civato's thread on how to install the unlocked Bootloader & Recovery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622425
It's best to download a custom rom.zip to your ext Sd card first, that way after doing bootloader and recovery, you can install the new rom.
As always, follow all instructions, and read them many times till you understand what you're doing. If you have a question, ask the question in the correct thread (bootloader questions in the bootloader thread, rom install questions in the Rom thread, etc)
Good Luck
MD
Should I root My Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 ?
Model : GT-N8000
Country : Malaysia
BTW will root cause the Tab to become slow ?
Do I need stock recovery to get OTA ?
As always if you have to ask then the answer is no .
You root when apps or mods require root only .
Root voids warranty ..
This is not the Tab forum do not use any firmware or mods from here on a Tab .
Do I need stock recovery to get OTA
Yes stock and original with no root for OTA .
jje
If you are happy with your Note, than it's not necessary.
I rooted mine, because it was still on 4.0.3, and that is the reason for the many bad reviews on the internet.
After upgrading to 4.1.2, it was like a whole new tablet.
JJEgan said:
As always if you have to ask then the answer is no .
You root when apps or mods require root only .
Root voids warranty ..
This is not the Tab forum do not use any firmware or mods from here on a Tab .
Do I need stock recovery to get OTA
Yes stock and original with no root for OTA .
jje
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This is not the Tab forum
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What you mean ? I tot I am at the correct forum ?
ic3tea said:
What you mean ? I tot I am at the correct forum ?
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You're from Malaysia..me too.
Btw you're in correct forum.When you wrote tab people will confuse it with galaxy tab and root will not slowing down your note.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
I actually liked my Note even at 4.0.3.. but I rooted so I could use the Multiwindow manager for multiwindow.. EVERYWHERE!
asdfuogh said:
I actually liked my Note even at 4.0.3.. but I rooted so I could use the Multiwindow manager for multiwindow.. EVERYWHERE!
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So that I will try and root but BTW just asking is HighXXXXXXXX CMW Recovery good or Darkman Recovery Good ?
TWRP is only for stock rom right ?
There are many benefits to root. All the flashable files here require it.
But technically you will void your warranty.
However there are ways to get back to stock and "unroot" so mostly no one will know the difference if you have to return it.
Both recoveries are good, but HighOnAndroid supported a couple ROMs that Darkman didn't, though I'm not sure this is still the case
blud7 said:
There are many benefits to root. All the flashable files here require it.
But technically you will void your warranty.
However there are ways to get back to stock and "unroot" so mostly no one will know the difference if you have to return it.
Both recoveries are good, but HighOnAndroid supported a couple ROMs that Darkman didn't, though I'm not sure this is still the case
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How about TWRP Recovery ? TWRP Recovery only work in stoock rom ?
ic3tea said:
So that I will try and root but BTW just asking is HighXXXXXXXX CMW Recovery good or Darkman Recovery Good ?
TWRP is only for stock rom right ?
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You will need to flash the HighXXXXXXXX CMW in ODIN to get root and cwm. You can then flash either darkman recovery with CWM, TWRP recovery or stay as is..
TWRP recovery isa modified recovery like the other 2 and requires root to use. If you look around you'll find the stock recovery too.
I root my tab with Darkman Recorvey is easy then I tot . Thx you guys .
Sent from my GT-N8000 using XDA Premium HD app
Yes! Rooting is the way to go. There are ways around the warranty issues.
My main reason for rooting is for these essential apps:
Titanium Backup
Ad Blocker
Mobile ODIN
Triangle Away
ROM Toolbox Pro
and many more apps that have useful extended capabilities once rooted.
Some Con's of rooting
1) good mobile app no longer works after rooting.
So if u use good mobile for checking corporate emails, rooting device will break this.
2) there will be some overhead for you to upgrade device when any new firmwares are released. If u are a very busy professional, then this is an overhead you can live without.
3) there are and there always will be chances that you may brick your device.
4) I think u legaly void warranty on device by unlocking it. (I am assuming u want to root to load different firmware)
I am not discouraging.. just givin you other side of the coin.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk
smrsxn said:
Some Con's of rooting
1) good mobile app no longer works after rooting.
So if u use good mobile for checking corporate emails, rooting device will break this.
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Sorry to bump a three month old thread, but would anyone know whether the Lotus Traveler app used for syncing corporate email and calendar works after rooting? Good is trash, so I'm not surprised it wouldn't work. There's not much of a downside finding out for myself by rooting my Note 10.1 because I intend to keep flying stock on my Note 2; but I thought someone might save me the time and trouble.
JasW said:
Sorry to bump a three month old thread, but would anyone know whether the Lotus Traveler app used for syncing corporate email and calendar works after rooting? Good is trash, so I'm not surprised it wouldn't work. There's not much of a downside finding out for myself by rooting my Note 10.1 because I intend to keep flying stock on my Note 2; but I thought someone might save me the time and trouble.
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For Lotus Traveler - I have no idea. I am unlucky enough to have Lotus Domino for our corporate e-mail and I hate it with a passion.
I have installed and configured Aqua Mail to connect to our Domino server (IMAP) and I can confirm that it works perfectly after rooting. You just need your IT guys to ensure that you have web access enabled. I set mine to check for mail every 15 minutes, if it's more urgent than that then why is it an email anyway.
Rom Noob tips, from a noob, please feel free to correct, add or expand on any points
General rooting options
Titbits
- rooting under normal circumstances shouldnt slow your system, in fact most devs i believe will attempt to make their roms bring out the best performance from that particular tab/phone you may own, throught software optimizations, in cojunction with working as best as it can with your specific hardware, although, sometimes you may have a N8013(american wifi version), the dev may have the n8000(3g version).......n810 is the european wifi version...................weve been mixing and matching rom versions here, i.e. using a n8000 rom on a n8010 hardware, ive done it, as far as i know, no adverse effects, well at least no obvious signs of em
- Usually, the process of flashing a rom will first involve rooting your tablet, and then flashing a recovery, which replaces the official one that may already be on your tab, the official one is usually pretty limited in what you can do, the custom RECOVERY is flashed because it gives you these options, but not limited
-factory reset
used when, flashing new rom, best to use the recovery when ever you wanna factory reset, i dont know if this was a oje of, or just specific to my situation, but ive used the android factory reset on my tf201 asus prime, after having rooted, custom recovery and been running a custom rom for some time, and it soft brick, since thats happenened ive been shy to do it on any android device, which is cool, as the custom recovery is a beatiful thing.......maybe someone can expand on or correct that suspicion
- wipes
cache- wipe your app cache
Davlik - someone gonna have to chime in there
factory/data reset- brings back your android back to its original state, wipes your data, that means, all apps installed, all settings changed
format - allows you to format the different seperate sections of your android rom, example of the different sections would be......kernel, os, sd hardrive ........
nandroid - the best part of a custom recovery in my opinion, the ability to completely back up your rom, settings, apps, homescreens, widgets......essentially, restoring your android EXACTLY where you left off, the few seconds before, it takes to boot into recovery and start the backup procedure..........you can also backup and restore only certain sections of your rom, so you may decide to back up just the kernel, or you may decide to restore, JUST the kernel from a FULL previous backup (that is, all sections backed up, minus, the sd hardrive,
Unless you specifically FORMAT the sd card, it usually wont be touched......id advice caution and reading up, before making a decision to format sd harddrive, with a custom RECOVERY, that may not know the requirements to your android device, i.e. a custom kernel ported from another android device from another company....plus, formatting sd harddrive is not really a thing done all the time, not unless you are thinking about starting from scratch, i mean, REALLY fresh, disclaimer:this would wipe any files you have stored on your android devices, specifically, documents, pics, vids so on so forth
- stock rom
the original android OS shipped with the device
- stock based rom
tweaked stock rom, speed, battery other mods
-CM (CynogenMod)
third party rom, built from the ground up, kinda....there are other different flavors of third party roms, CM is one of them
-when flashing a new rom, it is strongly advised by most devs to wipe cache/davlick and factory reset....before flashing, this helps avoid any conflicts with the previous rom and the new rom......at this point, if you were to reboot, rather then flash the rom, you would have essentially reset the rom to its original state, that means re-entering your wifi, changing settings, installing apps, generally a pain in the ass, if you find your self having to do it to many times in a short period.....titanium backup(root) is your friend, does a good job at backing up your apps and wifi.....havent figured out how to backup the settings i change in the android setting
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup
-quick boot
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.siriusapplications.quickboot
This free app, is a life saver when your new rom doesnt give you the option to reboot into your recovery, sometime found in hold power button/restart/recovery.......just more quicker then the manual way......especially when your having to google up the hardware method because you've not done it in a while and forgotten......which i believe is power off/hold volume down key/then press hold power button/wait for samsung logo/then let go of all buttons and reapettedly press volume up key untill the recovery shows up.......if you end up in DOWNLOAD mode, hold power to switch off, and repeat the process, changing the volume key, its one or the other, one takes you to the recovery, the other to download mode......so just reverse the volume keys, same method, just up instead of down
- supersu/superuser
installable app, that hands out root permission to apps that ask for root, if you dont expresly give persmision, using a supersu app, the app asking for root permission most likely will not work.... .....this app is installed as part of the rooting process
- afwall+ (free)
third party wifi/3g firewall, requires root........allows you to control what apps are able to use your wif/3g......i think its a passive firwall, as in, it uses very little of your resources, in the way it operates
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dev.ukanth.ufirewall
- rom flashing
sometimes, if you have already flashed a custom rom, and the dev has released the next version of his custom rom, as long as no drastic changes have been made between the two versions, you are able to flash the new version over the old version, keeping all your settings/apps/homescreen/widgets.......although a cache and davlik wipe is usually suggested if doing so
ive forgotten half of what i was originally going to write, so ill just leave it there before i rack my brains .......goodluck whatever you decide
Yes :good:
if it was me?
yea i would do it. it brings life to an old tablet. the 80XX tablets were abandoned by samsung. there are custom roms for Oreo the latest Android OS for N8000. i have a 8020 but no custom roms at the moment.
Good been waiting a whole 5 years for a reply .