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Windows 6.5 ROM questions...

Hello Guys
1. Does Itjes 6.5 ROM simply upgrade the 6.1 to 6.5 still giving me the option to add any other roms in there ( i.e TOUCH IT or perhaps even original)?
2.How can i revert back to 6.1?
i have other question but ill ask them i guess once people get interested in replying...
Thanks

Yes, U can. Because I have tried it

thanks for you response, but YES to which question.

If I understood everything right, you flash a new ROM, e.g. the 6.5 ROM, then you can do a hard reset and you'll still have the 6.5 ROM, if you don't like it, you can flash another ROM, e.g. the default ROM, then you're back at 6.1... there is in my eyes no difference between a custom 6.1 and a custom 6.5 ROM (beside the changes from 6.1 to 6.5 ) if you want to flash it back...

what i mean is.
windows 6.1 or 6.5 is the OS.
the ROM from what i understand is completely different from the OS. For example my xperia is Windows 6.1 (OS) with SE R2A(ROM). What i was wondering is if i flash to 6.5, which im still under the impression is basically a beta upgrade to the OS its self. Can i hypothetically upgrade to R3A rom or Touch IT v4.5 and such?

the ROM from what i understand is completely different from the OS.
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nope you're wrong. the rom includes the os.
if you flash 6.5 rom you get win mobile 6.5 beta and other stuff packed inside the rom. if you flash touch-it (insert lame version number) you will get win mob 6.1 AND tochflo etc.
you should read the boards .... x1 rom development.... Before you flash anything to your X1 you should actually know what a rom and a flash is . Otherwise your device may be damaged or you loose personal data.
A rom is the Operating System (OS) packed with programms and tweaks the cook likes.

the rom can be compared to the hd image of a computer
which include the operating system and all other programs
you can't replace the rom without replacing the os
even if it's with another os of the same version

thanks a lot Bros'

I would just like to point out that a new ROM version does NOT mean it is a new OS version too.
A manufacturer may release a new ROM version to fix a problem (eg. fix the camera software) but it does NOT update or upgrade Windows Mobile at the same time.
The new upcoming X1 R3A ROM i think will still be Windows Mobile 6.1, NOT 6.5. However, there are a LOT of updates in the R3A ROM, including new panels, panel manager, new camera software (now with auto-flash YAY!!! and GPS YAY!!!) and improved speed and stability. This has NOTHING to do directly with the OS (although SE might have done some tuning to WM6.1).
Feel free to correct me if wrong

pls advise....
hi, i had some question hope you can help me...where can i download wm6.5 for the x1? isn't stable?
I have problem to syn my x1 with microsoft outlook,it keep saying desktop problem hav to launch outlook in safemode and contact not able to syn..I had hard reset my fone n reinstall outlook and active syn reinstall as well same problem..pls advise.tks
johnchan78 said:
I would just like to point out that a new ROM version does NOT mean it is a new OS version too.
A manufacturer may release a new ROM version to fix a problem (eg. fix the camera software) but it does NOT update or upgrade Windows Mobile at the same time.
The new upcoming X1 R3A ROM i think will still be Windows Mobile 6.1, NOT 6.5. However, there are a LOT of updates in the R3A ROM, including new panels, panel manager, new camera software (now with auto-flash YAY!!! and GPS YAY!!!) and improved speed and stability. This has NOTHING to do directly with the OS (although SE might have done some tuning to WM6.1).
Feel free to correct me if wrong
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I had that too
winedrop said:
hi, i had some question hope you can help me...where can i download wm6.5 for the x1? isn't stable?
I have problem to syn my x1 with microsoft outlook,it keep saying desktop problem hav to launch outlook in safemode and contact not able to syn..I had hard reset my fone n reinstall outlook and active syn reinstall as well same problem..pls advise.tks
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Yea it happens, I use outlook and Sync Center too, times when it told me that its a desktop error means that Sync software simply can't sync as original parameters had changed and don't match. Mine reason was when I was using tweaking apps to change things on X1 such as what the contacts are sort by (firs-last, last-first); email settings changed; same with calendar. So just keep them original or try to reestablish your partnership with Sync Center, works with me.

wm 6.1 support titanium???

Is there any way to make titanium works in wm 6.1???

Wrong place to post a question you didnt read?
WM6.1 + Titanium... I dont think so...
Mods... do your dids...

Technically, yes & no. As of right now, there is no 6.1 rom version successfully running Chome without bugs. There are packages that would need to be cooked & drivers that need to be replaced for it to work.
However, I have to say that YES, it can be done. It takes a bit of work & really the rom is considered more of a Hybrid than strictly a stock 6.1 rom. I have had it working on 6.1 hybrid cores, albeit with several issues, but nothing that couldn't be fixed by someone smarter than I with more time on their hands.

I tried installing a mod version of 6.5lock cab file in a 6.1 ROM and it wont install! But I am sure it can be done with some tweaks!

New to HTC Mega

heya guys.
i just bought myself a new Mega last week, and i kinda wondering can you guys recommend which ROM should i pick to flash it? i browsed the ROM section but i don't know which one i should pick. and some of the roms are filled with programs that i don't even know of. which is why i ask for your recommendations.
thanks in advance.

Hello, think that you have to ask yourself why you want to change the stock ROM? Not happy with it? What do you want to see improved? Do you want a lite version or full version?
Ideally you try a few of them and see which one you like best. But first of all would read the posts with the various Rom's so you have an idea what they offer.
Personally can recommend the Rom of Billabongstaff which I use myself. Also read the "new to Rom's" thread.
Succes.

heya again.
i've explored every thread about roms on HTC Mega but i can't seem to find any suitable roms that i really want to use. there's a few nice ones but i don't even know some of the programs installed in that roms. so i need someone to answers me these questions so that i could decide which roms that i should flash.
1. My HTC mega version is
ROM: 1.28.707.3 (66092)
Radio Version : 3.49.25.05
WinMo : 6.5 Pro (build 21854.5.0.80)
Is this an old rom version? Should i upgrade it or stick with it?
2. If i should upgrade it, can i flash 6.5.5 rom onto my phone? what's the difference with original 6.5?
3. If i should stick with it, can anyone suggest what good programs that i may install to this phone? so far i only find SPB Shell and Facebook that's good enough for me.
thanks in advance.

amienzero said:
heya again.
i've explored every thread about roms on HTC Mega but i can't seem to find any suitable roms that i really want to use. there's a few nice ones but i don't even know some of the programs installed in that roms. so i need someone to answers me these questions so that i could decide which roms that i should flash.
1. My HTC mega version is
ROM: 1.28.707.3 (66092)
Radio Version : 3.49.25.05
WinMo : 6.5 Pro (build 21854.5.0.80)
Is this an old rom version? Should i upgrade it or stick with it?
2. If i should upgrade it, can i flash 6.5.5 rom onto my phone? what's the difference with original 6.5?
3. If i should stick with it, can anyone suggest what good programs that i may install to this phone? so far i only find SPB Shell and Facebook that's good enough for me.
thanks in advance.
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Amienzero, would be nice if that is available but do not expect a resume of all Rom's for Mega....
1 If you can not decide on a Rom because you do not know the programs used than the search function can help you so it becomes quickly clear what they are about.
2 The Rom you have is pretty new for 6.5. You can upgrade to built 21912 (or 21909 in custom Rom) but do not expect a lot of difference.
3 WM 6.5.5 is more finger friendly than 6.5 but it is also a matter of taste.
4 To decide which program you need or like simply read about the application section in Mega or general Windows Mobile but foremost try them yourself. If you read the posts you notice a few popular ones mentioned.
Succes.

thanks Frank C for answering my questions.
okay, i've looked up about WinMo 6.5.5 and i'm interested with it. say if i use HSPL, then flash the 6.5.5 rom. then if i'm not satisfied with it i can just perform a hard reset, right? then i'll be back to the original 6.5?

No if you do hard reset, the rom won't change.
You have to install original rom again.

Find attached comparison between WM 6.5-6.5.3-7......
And the article:
http://winmo.techparaiso.com/windows-phone-7-series-specs-and-comparison-to-previous-versions/

thanks everyone for replying.
but now i have a new problem. i haven't flash any roms yet but now the today screen shows clock instead of battery. how can i fix that? before it shows the battery indicator but recently i did a hard reset (i messed up the touchflo2d ) and now instead of battery, it shows the time. now i got 2 clock on my today screen. please help.

Try:
Start/Settings/Clock & Alarms and uncheck the box saying 'display clock on title bar in all programs'
This should sort it

sweet! that fixes it. thanks! i wonder how that got ticked.
time to get back hunting clean 6.5.5 rom or wait for that android.

okay, one last question.
my mega uses qwerty input to enter text. is there a way or a program that can change the input to numpad text input? when i pressed the keyboard button in the middle, it only gave me the qwerty and input method (Pin Yin) option.

HTC Touch Hd problem

Hello guys,
I have recntly joined the htc HD club i m not much into technical side
I m having some problems regarding this cell fone:
* Phone is really slow n not responding well and at times i really need to tap hard on screen to open a program...
* Time for received SMS is 1 hour later..
* is there any updates available?
Windows 6.5 is installed in it...
OS version 5.2
Manila version 2.5
ROM version 1.56
Rom date 11/10/09
Waiting for experts....

In Settings/system/screen you can Align the screen. This might resolve the tapping problem.
You don't have an official HTC ROM. It is custom made by a HD owner. You might want to change to another ROM. It is also possible that an installed program is slowing the HD down. Try to install some programs in settings/system/remove programs.
If you have a taskmanager, find out how the taskmanager is configured. X to close or to minimize. May be you have to many programs running.

HTC0017 said:
In Settings/system/screen you can Align the screen. This might resolve the tapping problem.
You don't have an official HTC ROM. It is custom made by a HD owner. You might want to change to another ROM. It is also possible that an installed program is slowing the HD down. Try to install some programs in settings/system/remove programs.
If you have a taskmanager, find out how the taskmanager is configured. X to close or to minimize. May be you have to many programs running.
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I have hard reset the device and speed is improved to some extent but not fully..
can u tell me how to upgrade enrgy rom? i need full procedure

It's already told:
Use HSPL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377
and
http://blog.silverstone.nu/2009/08/29/howto-flash-your-htc-touch-hd-with-custom-rom/

HTC0017 said:
It's already told:
Use HSPL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377
and
http://blog.silverstone.nu/2009/08/29/howto-flash-your-htc-touch-hd-with-custom-rom/
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i need to know that can i directly install a custom rom or first i have to perform HSPL?
Windows 6.5 is installed in it...
OS version 5.2
Manila version 2.5
ROM version 1.56
Rom date 11/10/09

aqibkhan28 said:
i need to know that can i directly install a custom rom or first i have to perform HSPL?
Windows 6.5 is installed in it...
OS version 5.2
Manila version 2.5
ROM version 1.56
Rom date 11/10/09
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Maybe you should first search / read stickies.
Flashing Blackstone is well documented.
Also, you should check is your Blackstone already HSPLed (also well documented).
And finally, you might want to try it with latest original WM 6.1 ROM, so you will have then platform for comparison. Blackstone was not meant to run under WM 6.5

Bodisson said:
Maybe you should first search / read stickies.
Flashing Blackstone is well documented.
Also, you should check is your Blackstone already HSPLed (also well documented).
And finally, you might want to try it with latest original WM 6.1 ROM, so you will have then platform for comparison. Blackstone was not meant to run under WM 6.5
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there is alot of data available, i m confused abt it

[Q] ROM (builds and kitchen)

Hi all.
I'm creating a Windows Mobile Rom.
1)---I want to create a rom modifying my smartphone's rom and NOT creating a rom from a clean one (it will be almost impossibile).
2)---Which kitchen can i use?
3)---Where can I download the latest Windows Mobile 6.1 and 6.5 Builds? (Da-G's download don't work anymore on Mediafire)
Thanks

Try OS Builder as this is the most advanced and all in one solution. But be aware that if you start from an already cooked ROM you may face many kinds of problems because many cooks have applied methods to prevent dumping their ROMs.
Good luck!

tobbbie said:
Try OS Builder as this is the most advanced and all in one solution. But be aware that if you start from an already cooked ROM you may face many kinds of problems because many cooks have applied methods to prevent dumping their ROMs.
Good luck!
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Thanks for you reply!
But, to pass from Winmo 6.0 to Winmo 6.1 or 6.5, do I need 6.1 or 6.5 builds (xip,sys)?
Where can I download these build?

Mich-C said:
Thanks for you reply!
But, to pass from Winmo 6.0 to Winmo 6.1 or 6.5, do I need 6.1 or 6.5 builds (xip,sys)?
Where can I download these build?
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Oh well - you are much on your own with this old stuff now. Usually you cannot do much to the XIP (Kernel) parts as they are largely HW dependent. SYS is part of the ROM anyway and so part of regular cooking. Lookup the forums for your device and download what you can get. If it is an exotic device your chances are ~zero to get anything useful. If you have no experience in cooking it is a very long way to succeed (talking in weeks and months of learning!) - and there no others fighting the same problems any more. Look up the introduction link from my signature to get an idea of how things are connected.
What is your starting point (HW, ROM) and where do want to go?

TOBBIE, in practice I want to use Os Kitchen (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628948) because it's very simple to use.(I can alredy use it).
I downloaded but when I open it, I have the first screen (that showed in the thread). Is written: "....please, select an official rom update file..." It refers to an update Windows Mobile Build for cook the Rom.
So I searched Windows Mobile 6.1 and 6.5 Builds. I found 2 very good Builds from Da_G :
-6.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547314
-6.5 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544445
But ALL Links don't work and I ABSOLUTELY need this Build, without it, I can't cook...

Sorry, I have no experience with OS Kitchen. I have only used OS Builder finally and a very old device specific batch-kitchen before this.

Thanks, Can i give you "THANKS"?
But with wich build did you used to cook?

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Thanks, Can i give you "THANKS"?
But with wich build did you used to cook?
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Well first you need to split smartphone (no touchscreen) from touchscreen devices.
I have cooked only for smartphone -> see my signature kitchen and stuff is all there.
Then find a stock ROM for the right type (smartphone or touchscreen) with largely similar properties (screen resolution, maybe also CPU/Chipset).
Can't you tell which device you want to cook for?

I want to cook for my Toshiba Portege G910 with WinMob 6 Professional.
It's touchscreen, it has Qwerty Keyboard, it has Wvga Resolution 800x480. There is not even a rom for this device.
But I want to cook in Italian language, (I'm italian )

This will be tough I guess. Mind that a new ROM will not change the kernel, so any of the new memory schemes introduced with W6.1 and WM6.5 will not apply even if you put a new OS on top of it. So basically you will not gain speed with a new ROM. Adding a language is a tricky thing but is possible, see my signature, even without cooking an all new ROM. So is there no Italian on the device at all?

Oh, I'm sad for this: no extra speed
When I bought, my phone had italian language.
The Toshiba Portege G900 is very very similar to my G910. Also the G900 has WinMob 6.0 Pro.
An Italian guy made a Winmo 6.1 rom for the G900 (in italian language), and now the G900 is very very fast. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4h23pR6JbI
I want to this with my G910, IT'S possible. Salvyc83 do this
(But now he can't help me)

Search for speed tweaks on WM6 if you are happy with the device otherwise. The effort to cook a well running 6.1 is enormous and it is not guaranteed if you get it faster on the UI then.
There are various registry settings to play with which can make the UI faster responding (cache for icons or fonts).
Good luck!

I need too to learn cooking roms. I will follow this thread.