If anyone is keen , or if you are like me and have a spare headset from another phone you can use the following diagram and cable colour code to make your own video out cable.
I have used the Raphael cable for this excercise as I like my old Hermes one better.
You will need:
One Red White and Yellow RCA Cable
Step One. Remove pin four from the extUSB plug. *note this can be tricky but is necessary to allow the device to recognise the cable as a TV out cable as opposed to a Headset cable. I used a needle to bend into the middle of the plug and then used a tiny micro screwdriver to bend backwards and forwards until it broke. Be careful not to damage any of the other contacts. Please see post 20 for an easier option that doesnot involve removing pin 4
Step Two. Cut cable as close to mic piece as possible and remove outside cover.
Step Three. Solder the following pairs of cables together using the following codes:
Video positive (Yellow RCA end) --> White pvc coated cable (extUSB end).
Video sheild (Yellow RCA end), --> blue copper cable (extUSB end).
Audio Left (White or Black RCA end) --> green copper cable (extUSB end).
Audio Right (Red RCA end) --> red copper cable (extUSB end).
Audio Sheild ( both Red and White or Black RCA end --> copper cable (extUSB end), * note the copper cable is the sheild wire that surounds all the coloured wires.
The last two colored copper wires
Step Four. wrap electrical tape around the solderd wires so that they do not touch any of the other contacts.
Step Five. Plug in and play.
tomboderider said:
Aanyone know if this cable works with HTC Touch HD?
thanks
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I am unaware if this works with all devices as I only have a Raphael to test this on. If anyone does find that their device works with this cable let me know and I will post it with this post.
I think the device must have the TV out function cooked into the Rom or maybe there is a registry hack?
Current Compatable Device List
Raphael
Diamond
This is awesome. I was just going to buy one to. I think this should def be a sticky.
Thanks for sharing this! I I will try to make one from a 3.5mm adapter.
Thanks man, that's very useful
Daved+ said:
Thanks for sharing this! I I will try to make one from a 3.5mm adapter.
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Let me know how that works cause i was going to do the same.
i found a similar post on ppcgeeks a while back. Took me about 30 min to remove the 4th pin...i used a safety pin- someone at ppcgeeks offered that advice. Works like charm. But f you have no patience, buy it on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-HTC-TO...ries?hash=item439875cabd&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
http://cgi.ebay.com/TV-Out-Cable-US...ries?hash=item5ad336a8ec&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Making Video out cable from alternative mini USB cables
Daved+ said:
Thanks for sharing this! I I will try to make one from a 3.5mm adapter.
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Please note that the mini USB must have contacts on the inside of both the bottom and top. the average mini USB sync cable does not have the necessary contacts.
this is such an awsome mod, im going to try this out. lol
i removed the pin 4 as stated in the picture but the cable is not recognized as a TV Out cable and no longer is recognized as a headser, i made sure i didnt damage any other pins besides the number 4.
another thing is that i only want video i dont care about audio does the TP sense that is conected or can i just solder the two wires required to get video?
excelente post BTW
EDIT:
Does the TV out only outputs certain content or can any content can be shown on the TV
i have a 7" monitor in my car and i wanted to use this monitor to display GARMIN as its bigger screen.
im gonna answer myself
any content can be seen on the TV.
yes it does have to be conected to the TV and the TV has to be ON in order to detect the signal.
also make sure the pin is completlly removed all the way to the bottom.
IT WORKS !!!!!!
thanks one again, excellent post.
Aanyone know if this cable works with HTC Touch HD?
thanks
tomboderider said:
Aanyone know if this cable works with HTC Touch HD?
thanks
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sorry, but I am curious on this unanswered question...
Works great! Finally some use for the old, spare headphones and a/v cables I had laying around.
i imagine it would work on all htc devices that support tv out, but that is just a wild guess.
It is work on HTC Touch Cruise (Polaris)???
device compatability
tomboderider said:
Aanyone know if this cable works with HTC Touch HD?
thanks
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I am unaware if this works with all devices as I only have a Raphael to test this on. If anyone does find that their device works with this cable let me know and I will post it with the first post.
I think the device must have the TV out function cooked into the Rom or maybe there is a registry hack?
Hey i found my old vogue headphones,would this also work with the vogue headphones?
mbg19 said:
Hey i found my old vogue headphones,would this also work with the vogue headphones?
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This will work with any mini USB plug that has internal contacts on both the bottom and the top (see Step One.JPG in first post). The colour of the wires may vary but I would imagine that there would be a standard colour code for all earplug cables made by HTC, however these may vary between companies.
Hope this helps.
thanks dude. Could it be done with an ordinary mini usb cable?
I tryed this and it did not work for me so I went to Amozon.com and got the Ipod RCA jack didnt cost much at all. Clean look and dont wast the nice HTC ear plugs but I guess you guys are happy with it but now I need new ear plugs...
I didn't use HTC plugs at all, bought Creative ones + 1 pound adaptor and they are way better than stocks, so yes I'm happy about that mode I've done like.. 10 mins ago?
Had some problems with all operation couse it was quite difficult to find right cables on photo that author attached (of course I really appreciate audible_paradigm work, all that mess was about different colors of my cables).
Anyway, it works veeery good and I'm one step closer to get this phone liked
Ps. You don't have to remove 4 pin in usb cable guys, just install one of the .cabs attached in THIS topic - much easier x]
Big thanks!
Related
see post #7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2515344&postcount=7
What's in the box?
I would also be curious about the box content it comes with...
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I would also be curious about the box content it comes with...
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mbarabas, szerintem a csomagnak nem része a tv kábel, de ne legyen igazam, mert én meg akarom venni a pro-t
mbarabas, according to me for the packet not his part the TV cable, but not be true, because I want to buy it the pro
I'm sure I saw somewhere that it doesn't come in the box. I've just oredered one from Expansys.
Today is the last day of the Modaco offer if you type "http://mickey.modaco.com/expansys/getcode.php?email=" into your browser adding your email address after the "=" it will send you a £10 voucher. You need to order something else to push the price of the cable over £20 so I got a 1GB MicroSD.
So all in that's a the TV out cable and 1GB MicroSD card delivered for £14.19
HTC own website states that its optional, so its highly unlikely you'll get one in the box
My cable has arrived. I'll post the pinout when I get a chance to beep it out.
pin out
These are for the pins as viewed in the plug.
1 video out
5 video ground
2 audio right
6 audio left
11 audio ground
jwitham - thanks, updated first post!
Now does anyone know where you can buy the 11pin ExtUSB plugs from? I only seem to be able to find them on audio adaptors which, I guess, only have 3 wires connected.
I was watching unboxing video, there is not a TV cable in the box
not really what the post is after but might be useful for some people, here is the link to buy the full cable from expansys:
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=170917
make one?
The HTC TV out cable cost too much! ($50)
Im gonna try my luck and make one.
Ebay sells 3in1 HTC ExtUSB adapters for about AU$15 shipped (it does say 5+6pins)
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=370079511111
and Dealextreme have Yellow+Red+White TV-out cable for a samsung phone for $5 shipped.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.5122
Should be able to use the diagram in post#7 and get it to work.
anyone see a problem with this approach?
i heard that raphael detects video-out cable presense, so there probably should be some king of resistor or somthing like that... we need to check that.
JugglerLKR said:
i heard that raphael detects video-out cable presense, so there probably should be some king of resistor or somthing like that... we need to check that.
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yeh, to check resistance between video out and video ground, as well as
between audio out and audio ground, for example, by some ohm-meter
Vladimyr said:
yeh, to check resistance between video out and video ground, as well as
between audio out and audio ground, for example, by some ohm-meter
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probably a terminator resistor of 50 ohms .. a piece of 50 ohm antenna wire will do fine ..
these cost 25 cents or less
as far as the mini usb .. its probably the same as this one motorola has..
im not sure if motorola sells these or if there are any to buy separatly.
just an idea : maybe one can convert this yellow rca videoplug (which comes standard with any videocard with tv-out) to have a miniusb plug on the other side.
da_jojo said:
just an idea : maybe one can convert this yellow rca videoplug (which comes standard with any videocard with tv-out) to have a miniusb plug on the other side.
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No problem what to convert, the question is "how"
An ExtUSB-3.5mm jack headphone adapter ($5) has the necessary connector.
I just need someone to check the original cable of intercontact resistence
Vladimyr said:
No problem what to convert, the question is "how"
An ExtUSB-3.5mm jack headphone adapter ($5) has the necessary connector.
I just need someone to check the original cable of intercontact resistence
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I dont think it is terminated inside the connector. The detection will be due to the internal termination of the device you connect to eg tv or projetor.
jwhitham said:
I dont think it is terminated inside the connector. The detection will be due to the internal termination of the device you connect to eg tv or projetor.
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I think you are right a tv has an composite input witch has a 75ohm resitance.
but your headset uses the same connection for his mic... for me a bummer but for you guys maybe the solution....
take a look at this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=31649&d=1164664052
it's a pinout of the headset...
i just maked one for myself (actual a home made cradle) but it just doesn't reconize the cable, audio and charging works like a charm
Build your own TV Out Cable
OK, I tried to put the pin-out together. I don't have the cable, but I played around with the Multifunction Audio Cable YC A200 which I opened up for that purpose. Only when pins 3 and 5 are connected and not 4, the TP recognizes a video cable and askes for the video norm. When using these pins as ground, there is a humming noise and the video flickers. By connecting these pins with pin A, this problem is solved. I put the info on a figure... could someone with a cable and a multimeter validate it?
I made then a custom cable to work with the Multifunction cable. For this, a 4-pin 3.5 mm plug was worked on with a Dremmel (see figure). The plug needs then to be inserted into the receptacle so that the notch is at the upper left. Just turn the plug till it is no longer identified as headset but as video cable. The extra ground connection I got from a regular mini USB cable. Tested and works without problem...
switch should be connected to mic ground probably.. can you try if this works ?
connect 3 and 5 for video switch
connect audio plug [ ]=== ground - audio right - audio left
4 - 2 - 6
connect video (o) outer 5 inner 1
Hi boys.
I found a ky in hclm/software/HTC called: TvOut = disable.
Xperia doesn't have TvOut...or yes??
Can be the same of Trinity and gps....
Anyone that have a right cable can try it?
Bye!
I don't think this is gonna work on the xperia, of course this just an assumption. I believe its HTC's proprioritary ext usb connector that allows for video out. Thats just a guess though...
Nobody have a tv out cable that can try that out?
Really want someone to try this
Kevin_seymer said:
Nobody have a tv out cable that can try that out?
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I do have the Raphael cable but it doesnt fit
Greets !
A four pole 3.5mm jack into the headphone socket should work. As discussed in another thread, the proprietary usb socket on the HTC only has 4 extra poles, and they carry the audio/tv out.
I had a TP for a short while, but never got to test the TV out feature (they didn't supply the cable), so I don't know if any additional software is needed for it to function... It might be that we have to install some software as well as edit the reg key, or it might just be the reg key, I don't know.
If I can find a 4 pole 3.5mm jack and some phono connectors I might get round to trying it, the 4 pole 3.5mm jack is a longshot though.
fotoingo said:
I do have the Raphael cable but it doesnt fit
Greets !
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Yea htc uses that ext usb that they created. Mini usb fits in their jack but their jack doesn't fit in mini usb.
Kevin_seymer said:
Nobody have a tv out cable that can try that out?
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On another thread about it, there was the notion that xperia can't have TV-out because they didn't wire it to a port.
TV-out is present in the Qualcomm chip, they just didn't bother to implement it. TV-out on the USB port is out of the question because there aren't enough pins for it. TV-out from the audio jack seems a no-go too, my hopes were for a 4 ring 3.5mm jack but that is already taken for the wired handsfree.
XavierGr said:
On another thread about it, there was the notion that xperia can't have TV-out because they didn't wire it to a port.
TV-out is present in the Qualcomm chip, they just didn't bother to implement it. TV-out on the USB port is out of the question because there aren't enough pins for it. TV-out from the audio jack seems a no-go too, my hopes were for a 4 ring 3.5mm jack but that is already taken for the wired handsfree.
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See now that just aggravates me. Why wouldn't u just run the traces to something. Oh well....
XavierGr said:
On another thread about it, there was the notion that xperia can't have TV-out because they didn't wire it to a port.
TV-out is present in the Qualcomm chip, they just didn't bother to implement it. TV-out on the USB port is out of the question because there aren't enough pins for it. TV-out from the audio jack seems a no-go too, my hopes were for a 4 ring 3.5mm jack but that is already taken for the wired handsfree.
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But other devices use the audio/hands feree socket with no problem, they just appear to change the circuit when TV Out is running. The HTC uses the same pins for TV out as it does for audio, it's just a usb connector with 4 extra pins on the other side of the USB pins. Those 4 pins are the ones that carry the audio/hands free *and* the TV Out, just never at the same time.
SquidgyB said:
But other devices use the audio/hands feree socket with no problem, they just appear to change the circuit when TV Out is running. The HTC uses the same pins for TV out as it does for audio, it's just a usb connector with 4 extra pins on the other side of the USB pins. Those 4 pins are the ones that carry the audio/hands free *and* the TV Out, just never at the same time.
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That's an interesting suggestion. If that's the case then it could work for xperia too if SE bothered to connect the signal to the 4th ring.
As i wrote in another thread discussing this matter, i couldn't get the HTC Video Out application to run on my Xperia.
Hopefully someone here can get it to work. Maybe there's some changes has to be made before it work? (screen resolution maybe?)
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That's an interesting suggestion. If that's the case then it could work for xperia too if SE bothered to connect the signal to the 4th ring.
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I'm almost positive it's not a case of "bothering" as much as HTC wanting the Touch Pro to have its USP (unique selling point) over the Xperia. Otherwise, the Touch Pro has nothing over the X1, which would cut into its sales.
Just a thought
The Nokia N95 has got tv-out through the 3,5mm plug. The extra ring can be used for headsets aswell, so although it is possible that xperia works the same way it'snt probable since SE says there is no tv-out.
Anyone with a n95 tv-out cable?
i have a n95 8gb tv out cable which i think is the same as n95 ones, anyone teaching me how to do it i can try out for u guys =)
some point i agree if x1 is continue to brought over with touch pro software features, x1 will out sell touch pro... althought im quiet happy about it but i think htc will not... proabably htc wont help se to oem wm devices anymore
Any development in this field yet?
why is tv out not included with the x1 then>
don't think so...
Anybody know if this might work?
http://www.jetmall.net/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=304
I don't think so -- the connector on the PDA end looks like a 4-pin microUSB, not the 11-pin ExtUSB that HTC uses.
It's apparently a proprietary connector, as you can see here.
It doesn't match the pins for the HTC ExtUSB connector.
hopper13 said:
Anybody know if this might work?
http://www.jetmall.net/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=304
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The connector is smaller dude...
anyway, I was wondering if this one may work. Although it doesn't have Audio output, but I think it would work for the video. on top of that it's only $3.53 shipped
Unless I'm mistaken, the white plug would be mono audio. However, I still do not think it would work. Best bet would be to go with the ones for approximately $20.
Cant believe its mono: the cable has 3 Cinch-cables: red and white as usuall for left & right audio channel, yellow for video signal.. as far as i know.. but im sure it wont work with tp
Greetz
Boris
Anyone find a source for USB extension cables for the Touch Pro? I want to run a cable in my car from my touch pro mount to the center counsle where I will have the audio dongle. which will branch off to a charger and line out to my Aux in. Otherwise I have to have the exposed audio adapter and then two cables running out of that instead of the one single extension cable I want to run to the center console. Really hoping I don't have to build my own.
I suspect this will be hard to find, considering it's not just a standard mini USB cable.
I like the idea behind it though. I was thinking about the same type of thing in my car and I'm waiting on getting a couple different docks so I can see if they will fit my needs once I rip them apart.
You need an extUSB extension cable. It should be around $10-$30. Depends on where you get it from. I'm thinking try eBay/expansys-usa/htc store
Kraize said:
You need an extUSB extension cable. It should be around $10-$30. Depends on where you get it from. I'm thinking try eBay/expansys-usa/htc store
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Been looking at all the normal sources, the problem is I need it to end in the same female plug that is in the Touch Pro (so I can plug the audio dongle into it). Having zero luck finding it.
I have to disappoint you: if you connect both the audio and the charger from your car, you'll get a loud noise because of lack of grounding in car
darfri said:
I have to disappoint you: if you connect both the audio and the charger from your car, you'll get a loud noise because of lack of grounding in car
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Easily fixable:Ground loop Isolator http://www.crutchfield.com/p_127SNI135/PAC-SNI-1-3-5-Noise-Filter.html?search=ground+loop&tp=2653
fishzine said:
Easily fixable:Ground loop Isolator http://www.crutchfield.com/p_127SNI135/PAC-SNI-1-3-5-Noise-Filter.html?search=ground+loop&tp=2653
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Does it work?
3in1 11 PIN ExtUSB Earphone Handsfree Adapter for HTC
Finally appeared on eBay what I was looking for a long time!!
I think that is the same that you are looking for!
http://cgi.ebay.com/3in1-11-PIN-Ext...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item3cabfd9d0b
Now I will not have a lot of wires apparent in the dashboard of my car!
not yet tested, I just bought!
i found that with a cab, the audio dongle, and an ipod/camcorder cable you can connect your device to an external monitor. Its been said to work with the touch pro and the Fuze, but for some reason I only get audio when i plug the correct cables in and run the cab....any suggestions...i have an ipod video cable and an camcrder video cable
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4355878#post4355878
-Your answer (ie, use the right cable for the job ) is already in the 'Accessories' forum
English
The link on that page isnt in english though
Try this one then:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=130310497614
since the manufacturer did not have to abide by any iso standards for this proprietary tvout, they can cross the a/v cables any way they wish. It just turns out they went the Apple way, and so the iphone's 3.5mm av cable will work perfectly ($4-5 on amazon).
alternately, if you have the standard 3.5mm camcorder cable, you'll have to switch the colors of the rca plug order, works just fine on the Fuze. Plug in Red to Yellow input, the Yellow to the White input, the White to the Red input. From this Fuze post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486916
techkills said:
dont buy an ipod cable if you have a regular camcorder cable it will also work! then u can have Tv out for $0.
only thing you have to do is use the adapter that came with the Fuze plug in the cable to it and then instead of pluging in the Yellow to the Yellow and so on, you plug in Red to Yellow input, the Yellow to the White input, the White to the Red input.
=) tada.
also don't forget to download the EnableTvout.cab
you will need it.
Let me know if this works for anyone elso, it def. worked for me
Nathalie
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Not able to...
I have a zune av cable that is identical to the ipod ones and it will not output video on my TP2 but it will do audio. i tried switching around the cables to see if it was outputing on the wrong color but it isnt. i downloaded the cab and from the programs it seems to be working but in reality it isnt doing anything other than audio. Any ideas on how to fix this other than getting the real htc cable?
same problem
i have an Ipod video out cable, and all i get is audio, even when i switch the wires around....heres the cable I have http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...cable&lp=3&type=product&cp=1&id=1134703394661
michealmyers said:
i have an Ipod video out cable, and all i get is audio, even when i switch the wires around....heres the cable I have http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...cable&lp=3&type=product&cp=1&id=1134703394661
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Your Doing it WRONG!!
Please Explain
please explain to me what it is that I am doing wrong
are you using the Ext-USB converter? and plugging the 3.5mm AV cable to it?
sure am...im using the audio dongle thing that came with it and the cable posted in the link above + the cab file
Why go to all the hassle, just buy a TV out cable. Mine cost about £15 which is nothing. It's a fairly simple cable with Video on pin 6 & Video Screen on pin 8. Audio is on 7 & 11 with screen on 5 and 10. The only hassle I have now is antenna for the radio, pin 9. With this pin connected the Rhodium assumes a headset is plugged in and disables TV Out.
cable
Ya have the real deal coming in a few days. Wasnt worth waiting for a potential cab that would work.
I have a differnet question... I have the usb to rca video and 2 rca audio outputs.
When I plug it in it disables the internal speaker and I can not figure out how to get it working without unpluging the a/v cable but I do not want too..
I want to use the T2 with a 3com mini projector and use the speaker in the phone with it.. Anyway to do this, or is there a Video only cable, I looked and did not see on.