Hi boys.
I found a ky in hclm/software/HTC called: TvOut = disable.
Xperia doesn't have TvOut...or yes??
Can be the same of Trinity and gps....
Anyone that have a right cable can try it?
Bye!
I don't think this is gonna work on the xperia, of course this just an assumption. I believe its HTC's proprioritary ext usb connector that allows for video out. Thats just a guess though...
Nobody have a tv out cable that can try that out?
Really want someone to try this
Kevin_seymer said:
Nobody have a tv out cable that can try that out?
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I do have the Raphael cable but it doesnt fit
Greets !
A four pole 3.5mm jack into the headphone socket should work. As discussed in another thread, the proprietary usb socket on the HTC only has 4 extra poles, and they carry the audio/tv out.
I had a TP for a short while, but never got to test the TV out feature (they didn't supply the cable), so I don't know if any additional software is needed for it to function... It might be that we have to install some software as well as edit the reg key, or it might just be the reg key, I don't know.
If I can find a 4 pole 3.5mm jack and some phono connectors I might get round to trying it, the 4 pole 3.5mm jack is a longshot though.
fotoingo said:
I do have the Raphael cable but it doesnt fit
Greets !
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Yea htc uses that ext usb that they created. Mini usb fits in their jack but their jack doesn't fit in mini usb.
Kevin_seymer said:
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On another thread about it, there was the notion that xperia can't have TV-out because they didn't wire it to a port.
TV-out is present in the Qualcomm chip, they just didn't bother to implement it. TV-out on the USB port is out of the question because there aren't enough pins for it. TV-out from the audio jack seems a no-go too, my hopes were for a 4 ring 3.5mm jack but that is already taken for the wired handsfree.
XavierGr said:
On another thread about it, there was the notion that xperia can't have TV-out because they didn't wire it to a port.
TV-out is present in the Qualcomm chip, they just didn't bother to implement it. TV-out on the USB port is out of the question because there aren't enough pins for it. TV-out from the audio jack seems a no-go too, my hopes were for a 4 ring 3.5mm jack but that is already taken for the wired handsfree.
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See now that just aggravates me. Why wouldn't u just run the traces to something. Oh well....
XavierGr said:
On another thread about it, there was the notion that xperia can't have TV-out because they didn't wire it to a port.
TV-out is present in the Qualcomm chip, they just didn't bother to implement it. TV-out on the USB port is out of the question because there aren't enough pins for it. TV-out from the audio jack seems a no-go too, my hopes were for a 4 ring 3.5mm jack but that is already taken for the wired handsfree.
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But other devices use the audio/hands feree socket with no problem, they just appear to change the circuit when TV Out is running. The HTC uses the same pins for TV out as it does for audio, it's just a usb connector with 4 extra pins on the other side of the USB pins. Those 4 pins are the ones that carry the audio/hands free *and* the TV Out, just never at the same time.
SquidgyB said:
But other devices use the audio/hands feree socket with no problem, they just appear to change the circuit when TV Out is running. The HTC uses the same pins for TV out as it does for audio, it's just a usb connector with 4 extra pins on the other side of the USB pins. Those 4 pins are the ones that carry the audio/hands free *and* the TV Out, just never at the same time.
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That's an interesting suggestion. If that's the case then it could work for xperia too if SE bothered to connect the signal to the 4th ring.
As i wrote in another thread discussing this matter, i couldn't get the HTC Video Out application to run on my Xperia.
Hopefully someone here can get it to work. Maybe there's some changes has to be made before it work? (screen resolution maybe?)
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That's an interesting suggestion. If that's the case then it could work for xperia too if SE bothered to connect the signal to the 4th ring.
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I'm almost positive it's not a case of "bothering" as much as HTC wanting the Touch Pro to have its USP (unique selling point) over the Xperia. Otherwise, the Touch Pro has nothing over the X1, which would cut into its sales.
Just a thought
The Nokia N95 has got tv-out through the 3,5mm plug. The extra ring can be used for headsets aswell, so although it is possible that xperia works the same way it'snt probable since SE says there is no tv-out.
Anyone with a n95 tv-out cable?
i have a n95 8gb tv out cable which i think is the same as n95 ones, anyone teaching me how to do it i can try out for u guys =)
some point i agree if x1 is continue to brought over with touch pro software features, x1 will out sell touch pro... althought im quiet happy about it but i think htc will not... proabably htc wont help se to oem wm devices anymore
Any development in this field yet?
why is tv out not included with the x1 then>
don't think so...
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see post #7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2515344&postcount=7
What's in the box?
I would also be curious about the box content it comes with...
mbarabas said:
I would also be curious about the box content it comes with...
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mbarabas, szerintem a csomagnak nem része a tv kábel, de ne legyen igazam, mert én meg akarom venni a pro-t
mbarabas, according to me for the packet not his part the TV cable, but not be true, because I want to buy it the pro
I'm sure I saw somewhere that it doesn't come in the box. I've just oredered one from Expansys.
Today is the last day of the Modaco offer if you type "http://mickey.modaco.com/expansys/getcode.php?email=" into your browser adding your email address after the "=" it will send you a £10 voucher. You need to order something else to push the price of the cable over £20 so I got a 1GB MicroSD.
So all in that's a the TV out cable and 1GB MicroSD card delivered for £14.19
HTC own website states that its optional, so its highly unlikely you'll get one in the box
My cable has arrived. I'll post the pinout when I get a chance to beep it out.
pin out
These are for the pins as viewed in the plug.
1 video out
5 video ground
2 audio right
6 audio left
11 audio ground
jwitham - thanks, updated first post!
Now does anyone know where you can buy the 11pin ExtUSB plugs from? I only seem to be able to find them on audio adaptors which, I guess, only have 3 wires connected.
I was watching unboxing video, there is not a TV cable in the box
not really what the post is after but might be useful for some people, here is the link to buy the full cable from expansys:
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=170917
make one?
The HTC TV out cable cost too much! ($50)
Im gonna try my luck and make one.
Ebay sells 3in1 HTC ExtUSB adapters for about AU$15 shipped (it does say 5+6pins)
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=370079511111
and Dealextreme have Yellow+Red+White TV-out cable for a samsung phone for $5 shipped.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.5122
Should be able to use the diagram in post#7 and get it to work.
anyone see a problem with this approach?
i heard that raphael detects video-out cable presense, so there probably should be some king of resistor or somthing like that... we need to check that.
JugglerLKR said:
i heard that raphael detects video-out cable presense, so there probably should be some king of resistor or somthing like that... we need to check that.
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yeh, to check resistance between video out and video ground, as well as
between audio out and audio ground, for example, by some ohm-meter
Vladimyr said:
yeh, to check resistance between video out and video ground, as well as
between audio out and audio ground, for example, by some ohm-meter
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probably a terminator resistor of 50 ohms .. a piece of 50 ohm antenna wire will do fine ..
these cost 25 cents or less
as far as the mini usb .. its probably the same as this one motorola has..
im not sure if motorola sells these or if there are any to buy separatly.
just an idea : maybe one can convert this yellow rca videoplug (which comes standard with any videocard with tv-out) to have a miniusb plug on the other side.
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just an idea : maybe one can convert this yellow rca videoplug (which comes standard with any videocard with tv-out) to have a miniusb plug on the other side.
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No problem what to convert, the question is "how"
An ExtUSB-3.5mm jack headphone adapter ($5) has the necessary connector.
I just need someone to check the original cable of intercontact resistence
Vladimyr said:
No problem what to convert, the question is "how"
An ExtUSB-3.5mm jack headphone adapter ($5) has the necessary connector.
I just need someone to check the original cable of intercontact resistence
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I dont think it is terminated inside the connector. The detection will be due to the internal termination of the device you connect to eg tv or projetor.
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I dont think it is terminated inside the connector. The detection will be due to the internal termination of the device you connect to eg tv or projetor.
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I think you are right a tv has an composite input witch has a 75ohm resitance.
but your headset uses the same connection for his mic... for me a bummer but for you guys maybe the solution....
take a look at this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=31649&d=1164664052
it's a pinout of the headset...
i just maked one for myself (actual a home made cradle) but it just doesn't reconize the cable, audio and charging works like a charm
Build your own TV Out Cable
OK, I tried to put the pin-out together. I don't have the cable, but I played around with the Multifunction Audio Cable YC A200 which I opened up for that purpose. Only when pins 3 and 5 are connected and not 4, the TP recognizes a video cable and askes for the video norm. When using these pins as ground, there is a humming noise and the video flickers. By connecting these pins with pin A, this problem is solved. I put the info on a figure... could someone with a cable and a multimeter validate it?
I made then a custom cable to work with the Multifunction cable. For this, a 4-pin 3.5 mm plug was worked on with a Dremmel (see figure). The plug needs then to be inserted into the receptacle so that the notch is at the upper left. Just turn the plug till it is no longer identified as headset but as video cable. The extra ground connection I got from a regular mini USB cable. Tested and works without problem...
switch should be connected to mic ground probably.. can you try if this works ?
connect 3 and 5 for video switch
connect audio plug [ ]=== ground - audio right - audio left
4 - 2 - 6
connect video (o) outer 5 inner 1
Anybody know if this might work?
http://www.jetmall.net/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=304
I don't think so -- the connector on the PDA end looks like a 4-pin microUSB, not the 11-pin ExtUSB that HTC uses.
It's apparently a proprietary connector, as you can see here.
It doesn't match the pins for the HTC ExtUSB connector.
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Anybody know if this might work?
http://www.jetmall.net/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=304
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The connector is smaller dude...
anyway, I was wondering if this one may work. Although it doesn't have Audio output, but I think it would work for the video. on top of that it's only $3.53 shipped
Unless I'm mistaken, the white plug would be mono audio. However, I still do not think it would work. Best bet would be to go with the ones for approximately $20.
Cant believe its mono: the cable has 3 Cinch-cables: red and white as usuall for left & right audio channel, yellow for video signal.. as far as i know.. but im sure it wont work with tp
Greetz
Boris
Right, so we all by now know that the ExtUSB connector on the Touch HD does not support audio or video-out. The question I have, therefore, is what's the point of the connector being ExtUSB at all? Apart from data and power, both of which can be done via a standard USB cable and therefore do not need the ExtUSB interface, is there anything else that can be ported through the extra "Ext" pins?
This is not so much a problem, per se, as a general curiosity!
I realy don't mind so much the lack of video on the ext-usb port, but it would have been nice to have audio on that connector so it would provide audio from a docking station/cradle.
I guess we will never know why HTC decided to skip this on their flaghip.
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I realy don't mind so much the lack of video on the ext-usb port, but it would have been nice to have audio on that connector so it would provide audio from a docking station/cradle.
I guess we will never know why HTC decided to skip this on their flaghip.
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Yeah I agree I don't really have any use for the video output, and I agree that audio-out through the ExtUSB would have been handy for car cradles, I'm merely curious if there's any other additional features of ExtUSB that are still enabled on the HD as it seems to me that the connector is simply a standard mini USB with a couple of extra unconnected pins...
Anyone find a source for USB extension cables for the Touch Pro? I want to run a cable in my car from my touch pro mount to the center counsle where I will have the audio dongle. which will branch off to a charger and line out to my Aux in. Otherwise I have to have the exposed audio adapter and then two cables running out of that instead of the one single extension cable I want to run to the center console. Really hoping I don't have to build my own.
I suspect this will be hard to find, considering it's not just a standard mini USB cable.
I like the idea behind it though. I was thinking about the same type of thing in my car and I'm waiting on getting a couple different docks so I can see if they will fit my needs once I rip them apart.
You need an extUSB extension cable. It should be around $10-$30. Depends on where you get it from. I'm thinking try eBay/expansys-usa/htc store
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You need an extUSB extension cable. It should be around $10-$30. Depends on where you get it from. I'm thinking try eBay/expansys-usa/htc store
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Been looking at all the normal sources, the problem is I need it to end in the same female plug that is in the Touch Pro (so I can plug the audio dongle into it). Having zero luck finding it.
I have to disappoint you: if you connect both the audio and the charger from your car, you'll get a loud noise because of lack of grounding in car
darfri said:
I have to disappoint you: if you connect both the audio and the charger from your car, you'll get a loud noise because of lack of grounding in car
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Easily fixable:Ground loop Isolator http://www.crutchfield.com/p_127SNI135/PAC-SNI-1-3-5-Noise-Filter.html?search=ground+loop&tp=2653
fishzine said:
Easily fixable:Ground loop Isolator http://www.crutchfield.com/p_127SNI135/PAC-SNI-1-3-5-Noise-Filter.html?search=ground+loop&tp=2653
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Does it work?
3in1 11 PIN ExtUSB Earphone Handsfree Adapter for HTC
Finally appeared on eBay what I was looking for a long time!!
I think that is the same that you are looking for!
http://cgi.ebay.com/3in1-11-PIN-Ext...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item3cabfd9d0b
Now I will not have a lot of wires apparent in the dashboard of my car!
not yet tested, I just bought!
I plugged in (for the first time ever) my usb headset that came with my blackstone, and i immediatly get a message saying 'Warning, The device does not support usb headset please remove' !!
any ideas?
There is no sound out of the USB connection, please use the 3.5 headphone socket.
am i being a bit thick? i got usb earphones with my blackstone that you are now saying are not compatible?
i didnt get a 3.5mm headset to use, just the usb one.
what am i supposed to do with the usb earphones then?
were did you get you device from
i got it from buymobiledeals.co.uk on uk orange contract
can you post a picture of what you got in the box and the boox itself
Doh! My partner just got a kaiser and I thought her headset was for my phone! Found my 3.5mm earphones in the box, guess i was being thick!
sorry for wasting your times guys, but thanks for your help.
well it happnes to the best of us
Hah, that sucks. Yea, There are dev's trying to get the usb slot to work how it should so later on you can do that. but not now
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Hah, that sucks. Yea, There are dev's trying to get the usb slot to work how it should so later on you can do that. but not now
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it was my understanding that although the extUSB socket has the ext pins, they are not actually connected to anyting on the blackstone side, so without a bit of hardware and some soldering skills, it wont be possible to ever enable the 'ext' part of the extUSB port
what i find funny is everyones major sore point with HTC is the use of the usb audio. now they finally give us a device with 3.5 jack and were trying to get it to work with usb
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what i find funny is everyones major sore point with HTC is the use of the usb audio. now they finally give us a device with 3.5 jack and were trying to get it to work with usb
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Agree - now we have a great 3.5 socket with socking sound there's loads of people who want USB sound. Once HTC provide USB sound I want a micro SD sound output channel !
lol
it did seemlike all i heard as far and cons go with htc was the usb headphones
I think its great they give us a 3.5 port. Just put it on the bottom so car holders can incorporate it for quick simple connections. Guess I'll need to set up bluetooth audio for my in car use. Hate to plug in extra plugs to get audio out.