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Hi !
Has somebody found some solution to reduce the delay for the ringtones for blackstone ?
I've installed the second cab here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=258109) as well as write in the registery (av0pw0r), but i can't reduce the delay under (almost) 2 ring tones, eventough i use a *.wma file.
I've also tried to play on HD tweak (1.7 option), but this does not change anything...
This is very annoying me, i've already lost some calls.
I haven"t tried yet a cooked ROM, but i wonder if this would change something
Please help
make sure the ringtone is on the phone and not card. That helped me a lot.
tks for your answer.
But well, i use (for the moment) the "Alarm-Classic.wav" under windows\rings, so i think it's ok from this side
How much delay do u have ?
hi.
using wma ringtones I get a response on my HD in about 1 ring after a soft reset. From the second call on the HD rings at about half a ring to the caller.
three rings from to wake from soft off.
but i forgot to say that if the phone is already "on", the delay is about 1/2 half ringtone, which is acceptable ! .
It seems that the additionnal delay (about 1 sec.) comes from the phone to go from "standby" to "on"
I've always had a delay with every HTC I've had (C500, C600. E650, Touch HD) using standard and custom ROMs with ringtones as WAV's and MP3's on the device and the storage card. I got used to it ages ago and if the phones on my desk can now predict an incoming call before it rings
Hi,
I was also searching for a solution on the ring tone delay issue. Guess that is a winmobile thing.
However there is no delay if you switch off the ring-tone and enable vibration mode only. That is weired behavior of the phone cause why cannot the ring-tone sound as fast as the vibration comes in vibmode only? And why does the vibration comes as late as the ring-tone when in combi-mode?
I am afraid there is no solution so far...
Regs!
this delay is something you'll have to learn to live with, unfortunately. at least in europe people seem to be finding loud and/or dodgy ringtones not very nice, and when dealing with the wiindows mobile vibrate mode is the one to go for.
another suggestion is to set up a caller tune, people are more likely to wait longer when they're listening to music.
ive found i can get it to ring at 1 ring if i turn off caller id pictures on s2u2
Yeah, the operating system does all the checks and clearing up before handling the call to prevent dropping, the way WM handles things, you can't get way from the delay, slowing the CPU with app like a nuedynamicclock worsens it. Well I notice a call before it rings if it is on
SlakerBoi said:
this delay is something you'll have to learn to live with, unfortunately
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All my wm devices have had this issue. My blackstone lights up from sleep a good 2 to 3 sec. before the first ring. I use the old phone ring tone and have four fairly well spaced rings before vm kicks in. I just count the rings as I get to the phone and it has become a non issue. The hd tweek for it seemed not to have an effect btw. Also I'm with t-mo usa and using their code I have my ringtime set to max rings. which is 30 sec. before vm.
There is a delay between incoming call and actually the phone ringing. Did you notice that as well? I asked my callers already several times how many rings they have heared. Normally 2, and I only heared one. So?
As well there is a small delay between picking up and actually being able to speak... Did you notice this as well?
i'm facing the same problem
Thx for your feedback. So now the question is if there is any reg-hack to speed this up.
I noticed that too.
But if you pay attention, there is a low ring in the background. Make a test in a zero noise environment..
@uterrorista, low-ring? pretty usefull, ha?
@all, pushing up the topic.
pretty bad, if the "waking up" process takes that long so the caller already got something like 3-4 rings until I hear the first ring...
any idea?
Upgrading your Radio should mostly solve this problem. And always try to have your ringtones in main memory rather than storage cards because power to sd card cuts of in standby mode and may take some time to return after awaken by a call.
Regards,
Carty..
With the new radio occurs the same.
Incoming call delay
This may help....
Somethings to consider:
1- I would say the actual ring signal is not always synchronized with the ring back tone we heard. The may come from different system within a complex telecom network. Therefore, some delay is expected as normal functionality in all telephone systems (Fix and mobile ones). What you hear when calling is send by the phone systems you are connected too (i. e. fix phone line of your provider central office systems). What makes your phone ringing is a command (teleco-protocol) sent by the system you are registered-in) So, we do not expect a ring to ring back sync any way.
2- To the previous fact, we should add the wake-up time, ringing tone search and play back as well as picture and info shown on display, call execution inner in the process on your JADE. You may minimize a bit these things, but I would say only a bit if you have the device always awake (battery waste) and your ringing tones are in the main memory.
3- if your phone does not give you radio problem, please do not upgrade it. You may run in problems you did not have before and it will void your warranty.
4- We can go further and add our ear and brain response time.
5- The time that comes for the call to go to diver destination or voice mail, counts from the moment that your phone is seized by your host public system and not from the moment the caller hear the first ring back tone.
Conclusion:
I do not see a real problem as far as it does not go over two ring back tones.
A lot of ringtones are silent about 1 second before they actually start (just like some songs and stuff). That might be your problem?
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A lot of ringtones are silent about 1 second before they actually start (just like some songs and stuff). That might be your problem?
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No, it isnt. Mine is the dafault tone.
If the jade is near a pc monitor, the monitor starts to make interferences two or three seconds before the screen lights up and the tone starts ringing.
yesterday it rang 1x and my caller said he heared the ringtone on his side of the line 5x!!!! wtf!?!?
what can we do to fix this?
Hello my radio version is 0.27.30.09 (from stock)
I too had a 3 ring call delay, i installed jademan superrom (which did not update the radio version , it's still the old one) and somehow the call delay vanished...
Or u can try the reg tweak to set the ring script to "av1pr" using sktools... works well for me..
hope that helps
Raghav_K said:
Hello my radio version is 0.27.30.09 (from stock)
I too had a 3 ring call delay, i installed jademan superrom (which did not update the radio version , it's still the old one) and somehow the call delay vanished...
Or u can try the reg tweak to set the ring script to "av1pr" using sktools... works well for me..
hope that helps
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Can explain the sk-tweak please?
Sure :d
install the latest sktools, Choose tuneup < phone edition < ring script and typr av1pr... which gives u a very short vibrate and ring... (which fits me cos the ring volume isn't very high and i dont wanna miss calls in noisy areas.. U can see help to modify the script to ur needs)
or if u prefer editing registry, use a registry editor to go to HKCU/ControlPanel/Sounds/Ringtone0/script and change the REG_SZ value to av1pr
annoying incoming call delay
Hi,
i have changed the registry script as people say but no difference. And that's no surprise as if you read the script letter by letter "av1pr" means activate device/vibrate/play ringtone/repeat. The original script "apw3r" again means "activate the phone/play rington/wait 3 seconds/repeat". So the 3 seconds delay happens AFTER the phone plays the ringtone the first time.
However, the activation(with activation I mean to wake up the phone from standby) actually happens always on the beginning of the second ring. I have another phone and I have done few tests calling the jade so I am sure of what I am saying.
By the way, I dont know if you noticed but changing the ringtone changes the script back to the original one. But it doesnt really matter given that this tweak doesnt make any difference.
I have to say instead that disabling the skin dialer allowed me to gain 1 second, and now the phone activates just before the second ring. So I believe that the solution should be found somewhere else and not in the script that everyone keeps talking about.
I think I have read that the superrom doesnt have this problem(jade rom development in this section). What did it change in there? why it doesnt show that?
Any help appreciated
Franco
Actually av1pr means activate & vibrate 1 sec & Ring
apw3r means activate & wait 3 sec and play ringtone
I used to get the caller screen and no ring till 3 sec till i changed that.... i know it resets everytime after u change rt but no prob for me cos i don change RT often and sktools has an easy way of changing it
And i need it to vibrate for 1 sec coz ring volume is a bit low in htc phones..
PS: i'm using superrom too
Raghav_K said:
Actually av1pr means activate & vibrate 1 sec & Ring
apw3r means activate & wait 3 sec and play ringtone
I used to get the caller screen and no ring till 3 sec till i changed that.... i know it resets everytime after u change rt but no prob for me cos i don change RT often and sktools has an easy way of changing it
And i need it to vibrate for 1 sec coz ring volume is a bit low in htc phones..
PS: i'm using superrom too
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well, the phone follows the sequence of commands so if it is:
apw3r
the phone will a=activate, then p=play ringtone, w3=wait 3 seconds, r=repeat sequence.
So the 3 seconds delay is after the first time the rt is played.
But I have the same initial delay with both scripts it does p**s me off really!
have you tried to use another phone to call your jade with the superrom? how long does it take to play the tone?
well i have tried and my jade starts vibrating by the time the first ring ends( in the phone from which i'm calling)
can u try the decrease ring delay tweak in the mighty enhancements section of this link and see if it works
http://triton.homeip.net/RegistryChanger/
My own experience is that SuperROM made absolutely no difference at all, neither does hacking the ringtone script (as other have said, the "delay" is after the ringtone has started anyway).
What did make a difference in both the stock & superrom firmware was to disable the HTC dialer skin and revert to the WM6.1 caller id bubble. This reduced the average delay to about 1 second. The other variable is whether the phone is in full suspend mode or awake - my phone certainly takes longer to activate from full suspend mode (full suspend being suspend on battery).
Haven't tried the new HTC stock ROM yet, maybe this improves things? I think it will take some changes to the low-level drivers to improve on the 1 second wake-up with WM6.1 dialer (these may be in the new stock ROM, all of the cooked ROMs use low-level drivers from the original stock ROM so will all be the same in this respect).
Raghav_K said:
well i have tried and my jade starts vibrating by the time the first ring ends( in the phone from which i'm calling)
can u try the decrease ring delay tweak in the mighty enhancements section of this link and see if it works
http://triton.homeip.net/RegistryChanger/
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Absolutely no difference whatsover. Again, the only improvement I can get is when I disable the dialer skin and use the wm default one. Then it rings just before hearing the second tone on the calling line.
To be honest I am not surprised, the registry key that is changed is:
HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\RingPreview\InitVol
which clearly refers to a volume level and not to a time delay...??
Hi all,
The call quality of the HD2 is very good. Reception is great, people understand me very well and I can understand them very good.
My only problem is that the sound is so loud, when I'm using my phone at my ear (so without speaker or bluetooth).
Do you have this as well? Is there somewhere a master volume that can be set?
To be clear: the volume is already at the minimum...
Thanks!
Koen
Does the earpiece speaker also pop/crackle somtimes when the tones are high or very loud? I hear a ticking in the earpiece speaker.. that is very anoying!
Will probably swap my device for a new one.
Not really.
But as I find it now too loud, I don't like to use to make normal phonecalls.
Koen
I have the same problem..
One weird thing though, it's only on outgoing calls, incoming the sound isnt too loud!
i had the same problem but only with outgoing calls an mine sounded terrible, still does( think my speaker is broken)
You can edit the registry.
in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Controlpanel\Soundcategories\ you have INCALL and INCALL 2, i think one is ingoing and one is outgoing calls.
Edit Initvol, i have both mine on 2 now. and the volume is much better!
Bouloama said:
Does the earpiece speaker also pop/crackle somtimes when the tones are high or very loud? I hear a ticking in the earpiece speaker.. that is very anoying!
Will probably swap my device for a new one.
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I have the same problem as you do
theguvnor11 said:
i had the same problem but only with outgoing calls an mine sounded terrible, still does( think my speaker is broken)
You can edit the registry.
in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Controlpanel\Soundcategories\ you have INCALL and INCALL 2, i think one is ingoing and one is outgoing calls.
Edit Initvol, i have both mine on 2 now. and the volume is much better!
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Thanks, now it's great!!!
I've got the exact same thing!
The quality is great, but sometimes the volume is just way too loud, almost up to the point where it hurts my ear.
One additional thing is when I get a notification on the background that a message has arrived during one of those loud calls, volume actually switches back to normal.
In my registry incall2 was set to 5. Resetted it to 2, hope it works
could anyone clarify
Where can I find that
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Controlpanel\Soundcategories\ you have INCALL and INCALL 2 thing. Please help! How do I enter registry?
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Where can I find that
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Controlpanel\Soundcategories\ you have INCALL and INCALL 2 thing. Please help! How do I enter registry?
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to enter registry, i need to install the little app name PHM RegEdit (free app) or Resco RegEdit.
henh said:
to enter registry, i need to install the little app name PHM RegEdit (free app) or Resco RegEdit.
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Made the first step, done the things in the register, but the volume is still too high. What am I doing wrong?
narkolitar said:
Made the first step, done the things in the register, but the volume is still too high. What am I doing wrong?
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Not sure if I did a soft-reset, but you might just give it a shot.
Both outgoing and incoming call volumes are now fine on my device...
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Actually got another loud outgoing call..
When I took a better look at the inCall and inCall2 properties, they seem to be for the notifications you get when you're in a call.
So changing them to '2' is OK, but doesn't actually solve this issue.
It may be an explanation to why my sound swapped back to normal after receiving a notification though.
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erik.alphenaar said:
Not sure if I did a soft-reset, but you might just give it a shot.
Both outgoing and incoming call volumes are now fine on my device...
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Actually got another loud outgoing call..
When I took a better look at the inCall and inCall2 properties, they seem to be for the notifications you get when you're in a call.
So changing them to '2' is OK, but doesn't actually solve this issue.
It may be an explanation to why my sound swapped back to normal after receiving a notification though.
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Tried a soft reset too, but my ears still hurt! Any other suggestions?
This is totally unacceptable, has nobody got a cure for this? I can't use my *phone* as a phone, the volume is deafening! Both speakerphone and earpiece are way too loud, even on the lowest volume setting.
try this one
Here's a solution : you need to use the Schapman advanced configuration tool v3.3 (freeware).
Go to "HTC audio manager" -> set "music volume" (or something close, I don't know of it is labelled in english, I only have the french version) to 30 or above (below 100, which is the maximum) and then soft reset your device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418151
I can't seem to get this to do the trick. Is there anyone out there who has used a program to specifically lower the earpiece and speakerphone volume on their HD2 'Leo'? I'm going to have to return my handset if I can't lower the volume. I love the phone but if I can't make calls on it it's useless!
*bump*
This needs keeping near the top as it's a MASSIVE problem. Doesn't *everyone* find their HD2 far too loud??
It happened to me only once, when I woke up, press power button to get the screen on and dialed a cab, it was way too much loud.
Today I made some calls, received them as well, and it was ok.
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Does anyone have a link to the part of the site where these supposed hotfixes will be....and how long will they be coming, any ideas? So far it's the speakerphone & earpiece volume which are of the utmost importance for me, then the pink camera etc etc etc.
Hi all,
pls. know anybody, where can be a problem with my ringing.
I choosed "increasing ring" in settings, but it always start ringing on level, which i have set with my volume buttons
I desperate because this
I want to use something like my previous phones...where works profile and defined volumen ringing and, increase ringing egg.
Thx for all help.
nobody has problem with this?
if you have set increasing rigning start your ringing on low level an it increase? becasue my not
pls. help, where can be a problem? nobody knows?
pls. only write here if your increase type of ringing works.
thx for each help
danusko said:
pls. only write here if your increase type of ringing works.
thx for each help
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Hey mate, sorry to see noone picked up your question...
So, increased ringing is working fine for me, and I'm almost certain it works for you too.
However, the guys at Microsoft had a rather... "interesting" way of creating this feature: why you don't probably hear an increased ringing sound is because increased, microsoft way, means that the "song" will first ring at your current volume, that a little bit louder, that louder again...
So keep in mind, the entire sound (so if it's 10 seconds long, you will hear the entire 10 seconds, the sound at one level). When the sound is played from the beginning, only then will you hear a louder sound and so on...
Hope everything got clearer!
Alex
Thank you amang for your important info. I use mp3 song and this is long song. But increasing from current volume level is strange .
Do you thing, that is possible to change, that increase ringing will start at level 1? Or maybe (but this is maybe impossible) increase after 2 second of ringing and not after whole mp3?
thx
danusko said:
Thank you amang for your important info. I use mp3 song and this is long song. But increasing from current volume level is strange .
Do you thing, that is possible to change, that increase ringing will start at level 1? Or maybe (but this is maybe impossible) increase after 2 second of ringing and not after whole mp3?
thx
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Knobody knows if is here any way to do this?
Maybe with mortscript, which will control if is ringing ON and if yes, then will increase level of sound to higher. Eg. after 1 sec..
Is it not possible? I tried to search which registry key control phone ringing status (if now phone ring - incoming call) or NOT.
Really is it not possible to do this?
thx for any help
Hi,
need to tweek something...
When I'm on the phone talking, second incoming call or call waiting sound (notification) is very loud.
Is there any registry tweek that can lower level of this sound.
Also, when I finish conversation end call sound is also loud, but that is not a big problem, since I don't have phone on my ear.
Thanks!
Next to the basically high volume issue, I don´t have any issues like this.
What Radio ROM is on your device? Recommendation is clearly 2.15.50.14, but some users tried (and try) others.
I'm on 2.12, but on 2.15 was the same.
Check HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\ path. Maybe InCall or InCall2 level in InitVol key?
I changed noisy alarm ring here HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Alarm\InitVol
I can't test it now so sorry if I'm wrong
grzesm said:
Check HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\ path. Maybe InCall or InCall2 level in InitVol key?
I changed noisy alarm ring here HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Alarm\InitVol
I can't test it now so sorry if I'm wrong
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Yep... that was it... thanks!
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can tell me the values for changes?
great
ilijan said:
can tell me the values for changes?
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test yourself. Values are individual feature. I set alarm value to 15 ie.
callin and callout sound low how to fix that please
callin and callout sound low how to fix that please