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Microsoft Voice Control 1.5

Hey Guys,
Ive been using a trial of voice control for a few days now, and wondered wether i have to press my mapped button everytime i want to tell my xda what to do.
As far as i can make out, if i have to press a button each time, it looses its appeal quickly
I use the hands free xda headphones to command it, so while im on my bike it would be nice to tell media player what to do without pressing a button in my pocket each time.
Please help,
Adam

There is no "Microsoft Voice Control", neither there is a "Microsoft Voice Command Trial"...

Chatty said:
There is no "Microsoft Voice Control", neither there is a "Microsoft Voice Command Trial"...
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I apologise, using the word "control" rather than "Microsoft Voice Command", and there is a trial of this software, im using it right now and I downloaded it from http://www.handango.co.uk/PlatformP...2&platformId=2&productType=2&productId=151270
So does anyone have an answer to my question above, do I have to press the button to start "Microsoft Voice Command" everytime I want to do somthing.
Thanks

i suspect that it does it like that because of cause if it would just catch the commands when ever spoken it would have to be turned on all the time
and if it were running like that it would be trying to recognize background noise and voices as commands all the time and use even more power and possible recognize some of the stuff as something and do odd things

I thought that might happen too, then i realised i have the 2 call buttons on the handsfree earphones that are easy to access (ref and green caller buttons) however i cant map these to voice control, does anyone know how to hack the button mapping ? like the volume sliders

You can only map buttons 1,2,3,and 4

Thanks everyone for your inputs, i have now managed to map the green or red buttons to anything i like, so now i can use my xda earphones green button to tell voice control what to do, works a treat, if anyone wants to know how, just ask.

adam_beasley said:
Thanks everyone for your inputs, i have now managed to map the green or red buttons to anything i like, so now i can use my xda earphones green button to tell voice control what to do, works a treat, if anyone wants to know how, just ask.
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pls go ahead and post how u did it..

Go to http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus_t.html and install this simply utility onto your XDA (found searching on the forums earlier)
Once this is done, you can choose to unmap hardware buttons (red and green call buttons) as well as the volume slider etc etc
Then, like voice control requires, you go to control panel > buttons.
You will notice the usual "Button 1, Button 2" etc, however now you have the option to map "Green btn" or "Red Btn" (or any button you unmapped)
Link voice control to either of your choice, I used green for this test. Once you have done this, plug in your xda official headphones. You can then press the green button on the earphones to activate voice control, and therefore instruct it to do the usual things.
Tonight this was especially usefull on my bike to work, allowing me to change songs without having to stop and take my xda out my bag each time.
This obviously means you loose the use of the green button for accepting or making calls without remapping each time, the onlt workaround for this is having "Phone" on the start menu and just using the touch buttons on the dialer for calling etc.
Hope this is of use to some people out there, its certainly prompted me to buy the full voice control later today.

You can still use the green button to make calls!
Press the button and say 'CALL whoever'
although it isn't a good idea to make calles while on a bike anyway :lol:

Green Phone button mapping
@adam_beasley:
rather than place the phone icon (shortcut) in the start menu, why not map the phone to let's say contacts or calendar buttons?
you can also map 3 programs to a single button & access the programs by the number of press(es). program 1 = single press, program 2 = double press, and so on....
also, you may try to map the phone function as program 2 in the green button so that when you double press it will function as the usual phone button.
unluckily, I can't test & confirm to you since I haven't reinstalled it yet after the upgrade to WM2k5 V1.60a.
Cheers.

The problem i have from all of this, is that during playback on media player i toggle the screen off to save power, when i do this, my red or green buttons do nothing, even with button lock off.
So even tho this system works well, its flawed bigtime for me over this one problem, anyone have some ideas ?

Why don't you try turning the backlight down to 0%, but leaving the screen on? It's the backlight that is responsible for most of the battery drain.
You could make a profile in PocketZenPhone with all the settings for your audio playback (backlight, volume etc). I seem to remember there is a way to make PocketZenPhone change profile from a button press - you could map a double click of 'hang up' button to change profiles.

I also switch the screen off whilst listening to MP3s and have mapped the Action (joystick click) button to 'toggle' the screen display. In this mode pressing any other button does toggle the screen back on. I do not have the ButtonLock on as you can't then wake the machine up to accept a Voice Command. I have Voice Command currently mapped to the Record button on the side of the device but would like to map to the Green button. I would prefer single press - to answer the phone, double press - to activate Voice Command. I have e-mailed a few questions to the author of the AE Button Plus utility to confirm this can be done.

anybody want voicecommand
Email me i will attach to you.

If only we could map the BT headset to the green button....
Is there a way to get the BT headset into the option list for the green button. Is there some other BT program that facilitates the recognition of the main button of the BT headset?

AE Button Plus has inactivated several buttons in my Blue A
Well, it seems i should read with more attention, but now that the damage is done I hope someone can help.
I installed AE Button Plus in my Blue Angel, and as a result the ok and explorer buttons do not respond to anything anymore. I then unistalled the program, did a a full back up, a hard reset followed be restoration. Nothing has changed, these two buttons are still dead. The don't even show on the list of buttons anymore. Argggghhhh!!
Any help will be appreciated. Thanks

Hi, this is slightly off-topic, but I tried the PC version of Voice Command a long time ago (I don't think M$ still has it out on the streets), and it used to listen to every command, but won't do anything unless I begin the command with the word "Computer"... e.g. "Computer, what time is it?"
Wonder if there is such a switch for the O2... :roll: O2, what's my battery status :lol:

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gonzaloblanco1992 said:
Well, it seems i should read with more attention, but now that the damage is done I hope someone can help.
I installed AE Button Plus in my Blue Angel, and as a result the ok and explorer buttons do not respond to anything anymore. I then unistalled the program, did a a full back up, a hard reset followed be restoration. Nothing has changed, these two buttons are still dead. The don't even show on the list of buttons anymore. Argggghhhh!!
Any help will be appreciated. Thanks
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This happened to me at first, but i think your biggest fault was backing up while having this error, now any restoration is going to have this fault.
Rather than uninstall, just try installing it again, however when then screen appears with buttons to handle (about 7 drop down boxes), just choose "Do Not Handle" on each button then soft reset, worked on mine, then I uninstalled it.

How to upload the files to ftp, i have voicecommand 1.5, it working fine with me.

Re-Assigning Power Button

Hey guys, I just got my 8525 a week ago, I'm still trying to get used to it. Overall i think i like it more then my TREO650 but i have one problem, i cant stand the small power button on the side. Most of the time i push it i push the slide keyboard out too, its so small i can never find it.
My old Treo650 had the power button and locking keys on the END button, when i push END it would lock and turn off the screen, to Unlock i would push END again and then the Center button. Is there any way to re-assign the Power button on the 8525 to be like my old Treo650?

Any suggestions guys. I am having the same problem with small power button

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its so small i can never find it.
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sounds like a personal problem, maybe see a doctor?
On a serious note.. i dont think it can be reprogrammed via the software, i believe the power button is actually mapped via hardware since it is used for functions like putting the phone into bootloader mode, etc.. i could be wrong though.

Hey thanks for the reply although its my phone with the small problem I have tried two programs on the forum here called Devicelock.cab but that only locks the device but you still have to push power to power the phone back up.

I believe the power key can be reprogrammed in one or two highly invasive ways.
However, it doesn't sound like you want to re-assign the power key, but to assign the power off function to another key. Is that correct? That's easy/
If you want to assign the power on function, that is more complicated, but there are work arounds.
V

I agree with the original poster. The small power on/off button is poor design. When I want to place a call, I first need to turn the device on by hitting that very small button. Then I need to activate the phone app or invoke MS voice command. It's just plain poor design. I love my 8525, but it could be so much better if the product designers at HTC actually thought about the ergonomics of the tasks users do the most.
One more gripe. The phone app is atrocious. Getting to the recent dialed list or to toggle the speakerphone usually requires bringing up a menu. This is annoying for a phone and a better design could mitigate the poor usability. I/m not an iPhone fanboy but take a look at the thought Apple put in there *first* phone and it is quite illuminating on the state of PPC phones.

r111 said:
[...]Getting to the recent dialed list or to toggle the speakerphone usually requires bringing up a menu[...]
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You could try scrollwheel up or D-pad up for recent call list .
(also down for speed-dials).
Maybe you could map a button for speakerphone, not sure though.

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Maybe you could map a button for speakerphone, not sure though.
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The original poster could - while in a call - try pressing the green button for two or three seconds.
I think it's even mentioned in the manual...
Cheers
Daniel

Hello.
I agree with the previous posters. The badly placed powerOn button is "bad design". If anyone finds the sollution (to PowerON the device using another key) please share it!
Otherwise, this is a great device. A true pocket computer
Best regards, jZ

+1 for the poor design.
I always hit the power button as I am pulling it out of the case when a call comes in, that turns off the screen, then I have to hit it again to see who is calling, and with all that going on as well as the ringer, the phone has a minor anurism and delays in answering.....

So to summarise the poor design aspect of this thread:
1. The power button is too small/difficult to find and press.
2. The power button is too easy to press/find even by accident.
Conclusion, it's just about right then!!
You can't please all of the people all of the time.
Mike

1. The power button is too small/difficult to find and press.
2. The power button is too easy to press/find even by accident.
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Sounds like the classic male/female dichotomy. I never can operate my wife's buttons, however obvious the functionality might seem....
V

vijay555 said:
Sounds like the classic male/female dichotomy. I never can operate my wife's buttons, however obvious the functionality might seem....
V
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unfortunately i can operate my wife's buttons even when i dont want to.. talk about poor design )

Lol, Shogun, remind us again how many kids you have?
Ok, some Opus Dei style self flagellation for the errant moderators going off topic.
Is this issue now resolved?
V

I can also operate my wifes buttons just fine as well but all i want is to find out if i can move the power button to maybe the PPT button or END when holding it.

Daftek, again, do you want to emulate the power key functionality, (ie on/off) on another key, and/or entirely disable the original power key?
V

Thats what I would like to do......

Hello.
I think we'd all like to assign a DIFFERENT KEY to POWER ON function. POWER OFF is no problem, because a button for this can be assigned through "Buttons". When the phone is in "sleep mode", only the POWER button can wake it.
Any solutions?
Regards, jZ

IMHO, it's possible but not easily.
Easiest work around is to disable button locking, so that pressing any button can wake the device, and then use a software lock to timeout/power off if you happen to poke a hardware button while it's in your pocket.
Alternatively you could rewrite the button driver, but it's possible (although I've not looked into it definitively) that the hardware power button is a hardware interrupt to the CPU. In which case a software based solution will not override a hardware based connection.
V

This is what I did...
I totally agree the power button is a pain, the size, placement...
I know this sounds a bit weird but I took a small piece of plastic (actually from a toothpick) and crazy glued it on the button. It works great! I never miss the button anymore! See picture...

Playing with the Pwr On/Off Button

Is is possible / any way to mod the power button??
like... trigger an event ( apps, wav/mp3 clip...etc) when it is being pressed??
guess it would be fun to play with

AE Button Plus seems to work on all buttons except the X panel button and the power button. But do you really want to modify that button that you use so often to switch the phone into standby?
I'm using the first state of the camera button for the alt+tab function from pocket plus. There you have a tip on a button that isn't used for anything as long as you are not using the camera.

programmatically this can be done, since it is possible to trap power on and power off event..

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AE Button Plus seems to work on all buttons except the X panel button and the power button. But do you really want to modify that button that you use so often to switch the phone into standby?
I'm using the first state of the camera button for the alt+tab function from pocket plus. There you have a tip on a button that isn't used for anything as long as you are not using the camera.
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x panel buton works as well, I have touch it hd installed and I'm using panel button for default first today screen of touch flo

Power red Led on X1
Since you are talking about the power button have any of you noticed that it have a red led?
I've seen mine lit some times, but only when my X1 runs completely out of battery, when I plug it to the charger the led it's on for 5 Min +- and I think the purpose of it is to announce that the device isn't charged enough to start as it wont star if I press the button, only when the standard 4 led's begin to do the usual animation it will start (by this time the power red led it off).
I've look in some manual's and didn't even find a reference to this led..
I think it would be great if we could port this led to do some notifications as it is way more noticeable than the regular led notifications.

really? but how?
I know nothing abt programming...seriously.....
I just wanna play a sound clip when it is pressed on and another one when off

I had noticed when I tried to update though sony ericsson's update tool, I was connected it with the computer by usb cable, and when I removed the batt. the LED lits

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3081934&postcount=1
new prog that uses the power button

Remote camera

Is there a way to connect two phones together, either with bluetooth or wifi and have the camera from one display on the other?

i think you need to hard-reset your mobile phone...i mean first you shut down your device and then push down both the vol+up and vol+down button and press the power button until a 3-color screen shows up... then release both vol buttons and push vol+up button to reset, then your system will go back to the first time use condistions...
caution!!!! remember to backup before you do.!!!!

Don't do it.

xiamilo said:
i think you need to hard-reset your mobile phone...i mean first you shut down your device and then push down both the vol+up and vol+down button and press the power button until a 3-color screen shows up... then release both vol buttons and push vol+up button to reset, then your system will go back to the first time use condistions...
caution!!!! remember to backup before you do.!!!!
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Umm, wrong post to reply to?

Do you mean something like Skype?
And for this to work via bluetooth the phones would have to be very close to each other since bit rate drops for bluetooth the further you get away.

I assume Skype needs net access. Was wondering if it exists (or is possible) for two phones to be connected directly in the same room/house.
Wanted to check something in one room while doing something in another and thought a remote display type thing using two WinMo phones could be handy.

[Q] Soft Power/ Shutdown

I know we still need to press the power button But is it possible to have a soft button for power down/ reb00t instead of pressing the Physical button for a few seconds?
it could help to prolong the Power Key which is might also be the problem for those non responsive screens :silly:

Terminal Emulator.
type "su", then "reboot" for reboot. Want a shutdown? Reboot, but take the battery out after it reboots.

mengfei said:
I know we still need to press the power button But is it possible to have a soft button for power down/ reb00t instead of pressing the Physical button for a few seconds?
it could help to prolong the Power Key which is might also be the problem for those non responsive screens :silly:
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On WM6.5.x I have used utask almost since I got the device brand new & used the extra soft button for power off & shutdown thus hardly ever used endkey button & power up from standby was normally windows key for me as that was best key for my handling of device.
Also my device has had light use & physically gentle use too but still the display issue has occurred.
Having spoken to our device supplier (we have over 20 HD2's) his opinion is even without use the ribbon cable to digi bonding breaks down as he seen same issue on never used old stock after a few days or a months use ...
Hardware quality of the HD2 is a long way from what HTC use to be ...
Poor digi, Mainboard BGA soldering/thermal control & speaker issues are way too common ...

there exists a touch-based solution for android also...i forget the exact name but it was widely distributed with gingerbread android builds in the time period when devs had not yet figured out the hd2 key mapping to bring up the power menu more than once with the end call key.
Sent from my HTC Sensation XL with Beats Audio X315e using xda app-developers app

Download Quickboot (reboot) app from play store and put it on your home screen. It brings up a power menu for re-boot, power off, recovery etc.
Also try screen lock and off app. It turns off the screen. To turn the screen back on, use any of the hard buttons.
I use both these to save using the hard buttons.

^ hey it actually works, tnx :good: