G1 problem - Buttons sinking? - G1 General

The face buttons on my G1 seem to be retreating into the holes around them slightly.
I have big fingers so it is getting to be a chore to press those buttons; especially considering that the buttons were flush to the face to begin with.
I would show a picture of it, but the sinkage isn't so bad that you can see it, but I definitely feel it.
Anyone else having this problem? Its there a way to fix this? Is there any kind of product that extends the buttons so they are easy to press?

My power and back buttons feel slightly recessed (which would make sense as they're the ones I use most). It is kinda annoying, but I doubt there much we can do without opening the phone

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Edges of screen unresponsive?

Anyone else notice that the edges of the screen on the cmda diamond, cdma pro, and the HD seem to be MUCH less responsive than the screens of previous devices?
I "miss" the exit and start menu buttons pretty often and its pretty annoying lol.
Also the notification/title bar area plus other buttons along the bottom and side.
The rest of the screen is more responsive certainly than say the vogue, mogul, diamond or tp. But its the edges of this and the last 2 mentioned devices that get me..
Well I also feel it's less responsive, but not so much actually. Besides this is caused by the technology of the touch screen.
pozytywny said:
Well I also feel it's less responsive, but not so much actually. Besides this is caused by the technology of the touch screen.
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You mean the edges or the whole thing? The main part I feel is more responsive...
Edge responisiveness depends highly on screen calibration. Try to recalibrate screen more precisely, I think situation should improve ...
kosta0955 said:
Edge responisiveness depends highly on screen calibration. Try to recalibrate screen more precisely, I think situation should improve ...
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Hey thanks a lot. Thought the same thing myself.
Re-calibrated as accurately as I possibly could.
Still no go. I would really like someone else to try this. Take out your stylus even and press in the very corner of the X-button...you get nothing.
Sort of fix: I found that if you hold your press just a little longer it registers (much better) though I'm not quite convinced that it's still normal nor complete.
jim256 said:
Still no go. I would really like someone else to try this. Take out your stylus even and press in the very corner of the X-button...you get nothing.
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I don't see any problem in pressing X-button on my Touch HD. I had similar problem like yours using right vertical scrollbar and recalibration helped, so I though it might help you too, but unfortunately it seem this ain't the same problem
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I don't see any problem in pressing X-button on my Touch HD. I had similar problem like yours using right vertical scrollbar and recalibration helped, so I though it might help you too, but unfortunately it seem this ain't the same problem
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Hmm...I wonder if I should try to get it replaced under warranty.
I would want to, but I have noticed the same problem in a sprint diamond in the store, a sprint touch pro in a store, and a friends sprint touch pro.
What do you (guys) think? Replacement? It could get really annoying...not being able to close out of things. Right now since its new and awesome and stuff I'm kind of trying to ignore it or whatever but...hmm idk.
The fact that the screen is less responsive near the edges is caused by an inherent technical limitation of resistive screens. The screen has no real bezel, and thus, the screen is attached to the body frame right where it ends: at the absolute edges of the screen Where it is attached, it cannot move. A little further away from the edge it can move (eg be pressed down) but this requires more force since you need to bend the screen much closer to the fixed edges than when you would press the center of the screen, which bends the easiest.
Don't know if this makes sense, but it's like a window... Hitting it in the centre will break it much easier than when hitting it close to the edges, since the glass bends much further/easier at the center, so the same force will have more effect.
Anyway, resistive screens have this problems, capacitive screens do not, obviously, since they do not rely on pressure.
If hitting the OK/Close button is a problem for you, just use the hardware button below the screen, the one with the arrow on it. It does exactly the same thing I believe. With 'I believe' I mean I assigned OK/close to that button using AEButtonPlus, which should be the default behavior for pressing it once. I find this to be much more convenient than trying to hit that tiny X/OK button.
nin2thevoid said:
The fact that the screen is less responsive near the edges is caused by an inherent technical limitation of resistive screens. The screen has no real bezel, and thus, the screen is attached to the body frame right where it ends: at the absolute edges of the screen Where it is attached, it cannot move. A little further away from the edge it can move (eg be pressed down) but this requires more force since you need to bend the screen much closer to the fixed edges than when you would press the center of the screen, which bends the easiest.
Don't know if this makes sense, but it's like a window... Hitting it in the centre will break it much easier than when hitting it close to the edges, since the glass bends much further/easier at the center, so the same force will have more effect.
Anyway, resistive screens have this problems, capacitive screens do not, obviously, since they do not rely on pressure.
If hitting the OK/Close button is a problem for you, just use the hardware button below the screen, the one with the arrow on it. It does exactly the same thing I believe. With 'I believe' I mean I assigned OK/close to that button using AEButtonPlus, which should be the default behavior for pressing it once. I find this to be much more convenient than trying to hit that tiny X/OK button.
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Hey thanks for your informative opinion.
This theory seems to fit, except it doesn't quite explain nor fit with these 2 things:
1. I can apply a pretty decent amount of pressure in the corner with no results whatsoever. But I can get full results if I apply less pressure for about .5-1 second rather than just tapping.
2. I have never seen any evidence of this on any other resistive touch devices (vogue, titan).
Why in the world do these resistive touch screens have to suck so bad anyway? The HD is the best I've seen lately, but does HTC just suck at it, or is it everyone (haven't owned a non-htc ts device for a yr or so, and that was a treo where I didn't really notice sensitivity).
My dad has a 3+ yr old Dell Axim X5 and that screen is AMAZINGLY sensitive. Responds to stylus and is too old to be capacitive. But it is literally 100% as responsive / sensitive as the screen of the iPhone. When I used it I couldn't believe it. You had to be VERY delicate and careful and trying hard to touch that screen and not have it know.

Any variability in the push of the buttons?

I probably have one from the earlier batches, and the buttons I find a bit too stiff. Would love it if they were much softer. I recently made a trip to Costco, which had a dummy phone whose buttons were much easier to press. Now, I'm wondering if later batches have softer buttons. It could be the way the dummy phone was made though...
Anyone who's ordered more than 1 phone notice any difference in the action of the buttons?
I actually exchanged my phone for a new one last week because the back button started creaking after awhile. (That was just one of several problems I had with that phone...) I think the buttons were really stiff and because of that I felt I had to press harder on the button and I think wearing down the button way too much to the point it started to creak.
The new phone I got has a much better tactile feel on the buttons now. It's a bit softer to touch and quieter.
I have my second MT4G. The first one made sometimes creaky noise on the home button but that was not the reason why I returned it. My second one doesn't have the creaky noise but the buttons are still hard to press. I come from the N1 that had soft buttons so everything with hardware buttons is a big change. I think that the buttons are more protruding on my second one; feels a bit odd but no reason to exchange this phone again.

Back Button Powers off screen?

I've been using android exclusively for the pass few days and have been really impressed with the progress that has been made on the HD2. I now find this phone to be less intolerable than when it was on wm6.5.
I have noticed i am using the hardware buttons a lot more in android. One problem i have though is that often when I use the "back" button it turns off the screen about maybe 30 percent of the time or so. I believe this because the buttons are not separate pieces but connected?
anybody else experiencing similar issues? Any fixes out there? Sorry if this has been addressed already in a different thread.
You have fat fingers
actually i have very skinny fingers. i only weigh 115 lbs. I have something else that is quite thick but if i used it on my phone i might crack the screen haha.
seriously though no one else is having this problem?
I think it's a hardware problem, maybe something (probably dirt) is stuck under your buttons?
I have similar problems with the back and middle button. It seems to be from them wearing out, which is happening a lot quicker since using android because the buttons are more necessary for operation. I've always been very gentle with my buttons, too. My phones in perfect condition except for the button issues. There's a couple threads around about the hard buttons wearing out... I don't think they were manufactured all that well personally... they don't seem all that stable. Most people don't have problems, but many have. Most newer android phones seem to use capacitive buttons. They are probably more stable that way, don't wear out easily, and have less manufacturing defects.
I've been thinking of sending mine in for warranty repair, because mine are progressively getting worse... yours might too. Or you can maybe set your volume keys as the back key. It would be great if some sort of onscreen back key could be made as that is probably my most used button.

[Q] Squeaky/Noisy Buttons on MT4G

I'm on my third MT4G because of squeaky/noisy buttons. The biggest reason why this happens is this:
1) the buttons are cheap plastic
2) the sides of the button rub on the phone's bezel, thus creating the squeaking sounds
3) the home/back buttons are in fact one solid piece (stupid design)
I'm thinking about putting some type of lubricant in my phone (per a suggestion over in the T-Mobile forums), as I highly doubt T-Mobile would provide a fourth phone to me. This squeaking sound really is annoying, and should not be present on such a high-end phone such as this one.
Has anyone taken their phone apart in an attempt of making the creaking sounds go away? Has anyone applied lubricant to the buttons to stop the squeaking?
lubricant?
you could try some sort of graphite lubricant... it's not really a liquid, just a powder and shouldn't propagate through the phone. i think "dri-slide" still makes it
The whole bottom of my phone squicks and creaks but I don't think I want to put any lubricant in my phone. I'll just wait a little and exchange it if anything. Doesn't bother me as much as I thought I would when I found out about it.
How bad its it? My vibrate feature is starting to maker noise
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I sprayed a little bit of CRC Power Lube onto the left button on my MT4G since it was making an annoying noise when pressed. Works perfect and it's plastic safe, no stains!
Mine screams like a banshee now.
This is probably the only real design flaw with this phone.
Still better than non-responsive capacitative touch buttons, but def annoying.
I also forgot to mention how loud my home button makes this clicking sound when I press it (along with the squeaking sound). It really is f'n annoying. Could any of these lubricants help simmer that down a bit? If I had known these buttons would end up being so damn loud, I would have second-guessed buying it.

A question for Omnia 7 owners about the capacative buttons

I was curious whether the buttons are easy to trigger by accident.
On my Nexus S and the Focus, there is a subtle upward curve at the bottom of the phone. This small lip seems to prevent a lot of accidental presses of the capacitive buttons.
In my experiences with a completely flat face phone (the HD7), accidentally pressing the capqcitive buttons was extremely common and annoying. I like the looks of the Omnia 7 more than the Focus, but if it leads to similar problems as the HD7 (always pressing the buttons by accident) then I'd rather go with the focus.
For me that's one of the most annoying things about the phone. I hit the search button all the time.. But some say there will be a firmware update to fix that.
singularity0821 said:
For me that's one of the most annoying things about the phone. I hit the search button all the time.. But some say there will be a firmware update to fix that.
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That's exactly what used to happen to me with my HD7. When I held the phone part of my thumb would be on the bezel and it would hit the search button. Also, when I held the phone in landscape my finger would also hit it.
With the Nexus S I don't run into this problem because the bottom is curved a bit. I've also played with the Focus a bit and it seems to have this slight curve at the bottom as well.
yup same thing here, this is when I spend time try to browse through apps and use my phone when it was still new. now i got the hang of it, and i dont really fiddle it as much as before now, just a basic need. and i got what a really wanted, fast and responsive phone.

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