Maybe sounds like a dumb question to some but I need to clarify this. I read a lot of posts and every where else that MyTouch 3G has 192MB RAM. I recently put a widget on my phone for internal memory size and it shows me 295mb Total. Then i checked in "About Phone" and it shows 284Mb there. Am i missign something here??
RAM isnt phone storage its phone memory like computer RAM
ROM However is the phone ROMs internal memory
I know with one of the hero roms i used it said 292 available from a fresh wipe and uninstall.There is no massive worry to be honest but if you want more spacejust clear data on the browswer.apk and the market.apk in settings>Applications>Manage Applications
I| do this once a week and still have all my memory availabl
Thanks for ur response, I am not worried about the space as i am using apps2SD and is all working pretty good for me. I am just kind of comparing the specs of Magic and MT3G. The main diffrences are motherboards, CPUs and Internal memory (lets not call it RAM or ROM at this time). Everywheer it is mentioned that Magic got 288MB internal memory where as MT3G got 192MB of internal memory.
Rightnow i have cyan4.1.2.1 with EnochX theme installed on it, I do not have any widget there so when i go to Settings>SD Card and Phone Storage
It shows Internal Phone Storage as "284MB" Now my question is this am i missing something or some how HTC put more internal memory in my phone or is it lying to me
Just wanna clarify this not having any problems coz of this.
Thanks,
internal phone storage = rom
It's the ram that is the difference between magic(288) and mt3g(192), not your "internal phone storage". Rom on both device is the same.
I dont think this is the case, is there any way i can check the RAM size on my phone? If ROM is same on both the phones models then why are MT3G users running into problems when flashing Hero roms and everyone is blaming the internal phone storage size. Where as magic users are not having this problem.
Did you read this some where about same ROMs and different RAMs in both the models??
technicolor said:
I dont think this is the case, is there any way i can check the RAM size on my phone? If ROM is same on both the phones models then why are MT3G users running into problems when flashing Hero roms and everyone is blaming the internal phone storage size. Where as magic users are not having this problem.
Did you read this some where about same ROMs and different RAMs in both the models??
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RAM is what runs your system apps and your ROM, which is the Hero UI or whatever you have installed.
The HTC phone has 288MB of RAM. The MT3G has 192MB of RAM. This is what makes the apps/ROM run.
The internal memory is called ROM which is the same on both phones.
Clinton
Thanks Clinton, is there a way to check the RAM size on the phone?
technicolor said:
Thanks Clinton, is there a way to check the RAM size on the phone?
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Sure, if you have a 32b phone your running with 192MB, if your running a 32a phone you have 288MB.
Or if your rooted use this command
# cat /proc/meminfo
If it return 19XXXX than your running a 32a phone and have 288MB of RAM.
It will be a lower value (like 90 something) for a 32b, not sure of the exact number I have a 32a phone.
Clinton
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Thanks Clinton, is there a way to check the RAM size on the phone?
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I think there are a couple of apps that will give you this information..
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I just got my htc legend and decided to install a few apps on it. After that it felt a lil laggy so i decided to check my available memory left, strangely it said i only had 85mb left...
i decided to test this by uninstalling every app i installed and my internal memory was still only 150mbish. So if i am correct my legend only came with 150mb memory???
I checked my app management and summed it all up and the numbers just dont add...?
I thought the legend had 512mb internal memory...?
anyone have a clue where the rest could be?
thx.
it has 512mb yes but that 512mb is also holding the Os and all the stuff that came with it so the usable space is much lower this is usually the case when you buy any device.
if you want more app space root the phone shift the apps to the sd card along with the caches
noobdeagle said:
it has 512mb yes but that 512mb is also holding the Os and all the stuff that came with it so the usable space is much lower this is usually the case when you buy any device.
if you want more app space root the phone shift the apps to the sd card along with the caches
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and how do I do that?
tx in advance.
Mhmm i had thought so...that is very annoying.
I May have to attempt a root myself.
it has 512mb yes but that 512mb is also holding the Os and all the stuff that came with it so the usable space is much lower this is usually the case
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and how do I do that?
tx in advance.
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rooting for 1.31 is not available yet . but it void warranties so ....
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1.31 root now available have fun
I just got a Nexus One and under SD Card and Phone Storage it shows that I only have 194 MB free. Is that right? I thought it came with 512 MB free?
I looked online and couldn't find anything so I thought I would ask the Pros.
Thanks in advance.
bane126 said:
I just got a Nexus One and under SD Card and Phone Storage it shows that I only have 194 MB free. Is that right? I thought it came with 512 MB free?
I looked online and couldn't find anything so I thought I would ask the Pros.
Thanks in advance.
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Looks like their gonna unlock the other half of the 512mb of storage with the Froyo update
You for real?? So, they all come with 512MB, but you can only use 194 MB at the moment?
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You for real?? So, they all come with 512MB, but you can only use 194 MB at the moment?
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Yeah =P
Dunno why but just like on the Motorola Droid how they have an 800mghz processor and they clock it down to 550mghz (probably to make sure the first batch don't fry and then unlock the full features later)
The current kernel can't support more than that, with FroYo and the new kernel you'll be able to utilize all of it.
If you want to take advantage of all of it now, unlock, root, and flash a rom with the highmem kernel (damn near all of them).
I think you guys are confused. It sounds like he is talking about the phones internal storage, not RAM. The place where everything is installed.
192MB is quite a bit of space for downloading new apps since most are only a few megs at most. The reason you don't have all 512 available is because Android and the default apps are taking up space as well.
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the internal storage. The OS itself and the other built in apps take space so that's the reason you only have that amount.
First and foremost, If this question has been asked and answered before, forgive me. Secondly, anyone opting to flame me for asking this question will get their post deleted.
Now for the question:
Is there a single build out there that uses the full 576mb of RAM that comes in our devices? If so then please point me to that build(don't think this is gonna happen). If not then could a developer please explain why this hasn't been done and what needs to be done to get it working?
I'm not asking this as a noob. I've been using Android exclusively on my device for some time now with limited WM usage, only to change builds and boot back into Android and I'm pretty familiar with it. This doesn't mean I'm a Linux coder/developer, I'm just saying I'm not unfamiliar with the OS.
I welcome all replies as long as they're not argumentative or trolling in nature.
Thanks
Bumping this
edit: I just stumbled across this thread. Skip to page two.
Im assuming the reason we don't see all ram used with these android builds is because the base wm rom they're using. For instance I use cleanex rom which has 350 ram available when booting android.. then the android system loads and I usually have around 300-305 available.
Now I've noticed with other wm roms once I boot into android I may only have 230-250 available... contrary to what people say I think wm does have background programs running once android boots... because there is no way android os takes over 250MB ram to operate...
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contrary to what people say I think wm does have background programs running once android boots... because there is no way android os takes over 250MB ram to operate...
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Dude, no windows kernel or programs are in memory when the android kernel is loaded.
Can a dev please clarify on this whether or not any windows is still left in memory?
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Im assuming the reason we don't see all ram used with these android builds is because the base wm rom they're using. For instance I use cleanex rom which has 350 ram available when booting android.. then the android system loads and I usually have around 300-305 available.
Now I've noticed with other wm roms once I boot into android I may only have 230-250 available... contrary to what people say I think wm does have background programs running once android boots... because there is no way android os takes over 250MB ram to operate...
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Are you sure about that 350mb free ram??
about that 250mb free of ram is kinda correct.. i'll give it a shot..
Yeah check out the cleanex wm rom has tons of memory free... its a light weight rom perfect for android
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OK AFAIK
When Haret kills windows it registers the total available memory on RAM eg 250-300MB
now HARET uses most of the information on RAM left by WimMo to initialize hardware for android to run properly,
The only solution for a build to use 576MB ram is NAND
I'm no dev or hacker, the above is what i understand from reading open to correction
Best regds
Afaik, Haret does keep a lot of the hardware initialized by winmo, but that has nothing to do with the ram after Linux is loaded. All ram is free and available to Linux, so I'm not sure why all ram isn't used. I thought it was all being used, with some being set aside for the os... maybe some set aside for video memory too??
I'm curious about this too, now. We need to get one of the devs to clear this up. I was under the impression that it was all being used, but it's not all user accessible or shown to the user because the os uses a certain amount. We should point a Dev to this thread.
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Any 'Awesome' answers?
Okay Im curious about this too. I just flashed my own lite WinMo rom, to see if it would make a difference, and I wasnt paying attentionso let me ask here if maybe I did something that goes along the lines of the questioning. My WinMo Rom is 80mb, flashed it, and it said Storage free 870mb and only 8mb used, under program it said 100mb used and 370 free, when I booted Android up after loading I went into the system panel lite and under storage it says:
System Storage Capacity: 309.7
Available 15.1(?!?!?!) is that right?
Application Storage: 1011.8
Available 684.2
I am using the Carbon Evo remix by motoman. Looking at the system storage capacity of 309.7 and available 15.1 do those numbers even look right? And from the Figures I stated, does that shed any light about getting to the 512mb mark? ALso when I do a task kill using ATK and TK, ATK says that my memory available is 270mb.
Hope this helps.
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Okay Im curious about this too. I just flashed my own lite WinMo rom, to see if it would make a difference, and I wasnt paying attentionso let me ask here if maybe I did something that goes along the lines of the questioning. My WinMo Rom is 80mb, flashed it, and it said Storage free 870mb and only 8mb used, under program it said 100mb used and 370 free, when I booted Android up after loading I went into the system panel lite and under storage it says:
System Storage Capacity: 309.7
Available 15.1(?!?!?!) is that right?
Application Storage: 1011.8
Available 684.2
I am using the Carbon Evo remix by motoman. Looking at the system storage capacity of 309.7 and available 15.1 do those numbers even look right? And from the Figures I stated, does that shed any light about getting to the 512mb mark? ALso when I do a task kill using ATK and TK, ATK says that my memory available is 270mb.
Hope this helps.
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I think you're reading your 16gb SD where it says 15.1. I'm pretty sure you are just reading your storage, which has nothing to do with ram.
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zarathustrax said:
I think you're reading your 16gb SD where it says 15.1. I'm pretty sure you are just reading your storage, which has nothing to do with ram.
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Yes.. thats what i thought too..
EDIT: I have tried cleanEx and i still have the same RAM available!
The way I understand it, the full ram on the hd2 has been mapped out. While the unit does have 576mb of memory, it's shared among user memory and other system uses like graphics.
For a short time people were running the full ram kernel with 512mb or 576mb and they noticed right away the display were getting corrupted.
I'm not a dev, this explanation was posted by others. It's in the thread zhegoggles posted too, on page 20.
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I think you're reading your 16gb SD where it says 15.1. I'm pretty sure you are just reading your storage, which has nothing to do with ram.
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Sorry but I have an 8gb sd card running my android not a 16gb.
And system panel says 15.1mb not gb, its 309.7mb storage capacity and 15.1mb available, so obviously thats not it, but I am trying to see how much smaller I can make winmo to run android and see if that number changes any more or less.
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Sorry but I have an 8gb sd card running my android not a 16gb.
And system panel says 15.1mb not gb, its 309.7mb storage capacity and 15.1mb available, so obviously thats not it, but I am trying to see how much smaller I can make winmo to run android and see if that number changes any more or less.
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309.7mb is the size of your system.ext2 partition. 15.1mb is what's left on it. It does not matter as you're not adding anything to it, any apps you install goes into the data.img.
AngelDeath said:
Sorry but I have an 8gb sd card running my android not a 16gb.
And system panel says 15.1mb not gb, its 309.7mb storage capacity and 15.1mb available, so obviously thats not it, but I am trying to see how much smaller I can make winmo to run android and see if that number changes any more or less.
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Either way, storage capacity is not ram. Changing winmo roms does not effect your androids ram or storage capacity.
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Either way, storage capacity is not ram. Changing winmo roms does not effect your androids ram or storage capacity.
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way to burst my bubble there I got my WinMo down to near 40 mb and was hoping, (Not a linux person), I thought I read somewhere that winmo being in memory hampers linux, unless they were blowing smoke.
If thats the case, then how do you find out about memory then? If all the info is file based then how does one know what your using thru android?
I thought the HD2 has 488mb of RAM. If you read on the specs page it says 488MB of RAM.
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I thought the HD2 has 488mb of RAM. If you read on the specs page it says 488MB of RAM.
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International HD2 by default has 488MB with 88MB hidden can be unlocked by using custom roms
TMOUS HD2 has 576MB by default
So I bought my HTC Shift 4G but i think it's Defective. I've called HTC, Sprint, and Bestbuy. The 3 companies say the Phone Has 2 GB Internal Memory(ROM). However my Phone only shows 432MB :
203 MB Apps
69. MB System
159.6 MB Free space
Could it be Defective or They just don't know what they saying.
Would u guys tell me if ur devices are showing the same ??
I bought this phone cuz the 2GB. I'd hate to return it and get the big EPIC!!
thanks!!
I got 431 for applications(internal storage)
I figure the rest is system reserved by the fellows at HTC. That is where the OS/kernel is located. Probably locked away/system mountable only, to prevent us from obtaining root. ( any of you fellows who know better can feel free to correct me.) Just based on knowledge of linux etc. Not much in depth on the droid
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I'm pretty sure it does in fact have 2GB of internal memory, however it seems like a big chunk of that is taken up by the operating system and maybe some is reserved for system storage/app caches/etc. Not 100% sure but I think that's why.
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So I bought my HTC Shift 4G but i think it's Defective. I've called HTC, Sprint, and Bestbuy. The 3 companies say the Phone Has 2 GB Internal Memory(ROM). However my Phone only shows 432MB :
203 MB Apps
69. MB System
159.6 MB Free space
Could it be Defective or They just don't know what they saying.
Would u guys tell me if ur devices are showing the same ??
I bought this phone cuz the 2GB. I'd hate to return it and get the big EPIC!!
thanks!!
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They are referring to the 2GB SD card thar comes with the phone.
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They are referring to the 2GB SD card thar comes with the phone.
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yep.
Guess you take it back and get an epic.
That's not actually not true, they claimed that the evo only had 1gb of internal memory but came with a 8gig sd card, disproving your theory right there.
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That's not actually not true, they claimed that the evo only had 1gb of internal memory but came with a 8gig sd card, disproving your theory right there.
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Disproving what theory?
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yep.
Guess you take it back and get an epic.
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Yeah what he said.
No conspiracy theories, just information...
Check here: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=2946
It gives you the specs.
This is what I got from Root Explorer:
/app-cache - 4k used, 8.00MB free
/cache - 31.21MB used, 111.01MB free
/data - 351.02MB used, 80.70MB free
/dev - 12K used, 186.59 MB free
/devlog - 4.04MB used, 15.82MB free
/etc - 288.83MB used, 102.53MB free
/system - 288.83MB used, 102.53MB free
I'm not a dev so can't interpret it correctly but it does seem there's lots of memory here and there that could probably be partitioned to the /data folder for more app storage once perm root is achieved.
EDIT: I've removed lots of stock apps so your numbers will not match mine.
The first Shift that I picked up from Best Buy was indeed defective. Not because it wasn't showing the proper amount of memory, but because it locked up on me 5 times in the first hour that I had it. All I could do to get it to turn off is battery pull, and then when I put the battery back in i had a really tough time getting it to turn back on. They swapped it out for me, and my new one has been flawless.
i'm wondering (don't quote me on this) if the extra internal storage is hidden/locked by HTC so there will be room available when the new sense drops? i've heard it's a lot bigger than the current version with the stand-alone navigation/maps that it's going to bring with it.
Has anyone ripped one apart and checked all of the chips on board?
I would take it back to the store and exchange it.
Phone should have around 256mb for apps (With all the stock apps installed)
So we all know tmobile was lying about the 4gb internal memory available (should have been @ least 8 in the first place anyways) and instead we see around 1.5 or so. I'm just wandering if the dev/hackers are looking into a way to counter this and unlock the extra internal memory were supposed to have from stock.
There is no way to unlock the extra memory, it's set like that in the factory. See the Wiki for a detailed explanation.
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if they can find a way to repartition the 1.5GB into 4GB, which i think is impossible. The wiki explains a lot.
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So we all know tmobile was lying about the 4gb internal memory available (should have been @ least 8 in the first place anyways) and instead we see around 1.5 or so. I'm just wandering if the dev/hackers are looking into a way to counter this and unlock the extra internal memory were supposed to have from stock.
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They did not lie there is that much its just being used for differnt functions dont get your panties in a twist kiddo
ionic7 said:
They did not lie there is that much its just being used for differnt functions dont get your panties in a twist kiddo
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No, it actually *IS* a lie.
The physical part is capable of being 4GB, but half of it was sacrificed **permanently** in order to boost performance and integrity.
There is more than 1.5 available though, its actually about 2.1 total available, 1.5 of which is in the USERDATA partition, the rest is in the SYSTEM and other partitions.
Full explanation located in Wiki
If anyone wants the details on the magically "missing" 2Gb of memory, there is a good explanation in the Wiki.
The consensus is that the hardware has 4Gb but it is permanently partitioned to serve as a 2Gb device with good redundancy and speed.
Explanation: The "missing" 2Gb
Wow, this whole missing memory theme won't ever die, I wish it would already.