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Hi,
I've been using Jack V3.x medium for the past few weeks. The ROM has been brilliant apart from a few issues with TF3D lag (although i gather that this is a universal TF3D problem) and overall i am quite happy with it.
Jack V3.x is not based on WM6.5 however, unlike some other ROM's that have been popping up in the ROM development forum. From what i've been reading WM6.5 is only an incremental upgrade to 6.1 and so i am left wondering: Is it worthwhile to upgrade to WM6.5 now, bugs and all, or to wait for a few months before upgrading so all the bugs get wrinkled out? Also, what WM6.5 ROM would people recommend upgrading to?
Thanks in advance!
P.S. The factors that would make me want to upgrade are things like improved functionality, faster speed, clearer UI, etc.
Well I am using gtrabs ROM and so far I am really liking it. It is pretty fast, no bugs or crashes, and the interface is clean. I have kinda got a bit tired of TouchFlo3D so I wanted something different. I would say give it a go....
itje's 6.5 RC1 is what I'm on, if you disable threaded messaging it works probably better than official 6.1 roms did for me. Its faster, scrolling is much much better, looks nicer, and has titanium which i really get on with.
yes .
definitely worth it.
Interface upgrades, ram usage isn't up that much, it's a lot smoother.
using gtrab's rom right now, it's so quick when browsing windows in file explorer.
battery life has somewhat improved, strangely enough.
I have only tried one 6.5 rom, and that is Valkyrie v1, which has TF3D in case I didn't like the WM 6.5 interface. It all functions properly, so I'd recommend trying it (or other 6.5 roms) and see how it works for you.
However I'm seriously considering going back to WM6.1. While this 6.5 rom works well and I'm glad Chefs are experimenting with 6.5 (doing a great job!), it just seems slower and less refined. I'll give it a bit more of a go before giving up though!
Regarding the WM6.5 interface, I personally thing TF3D is far better - why have such a tiny area for plug ins? Daft I reckon!
Give it a go and see what you think!
DavidMc0 said:
I have only tried one 6.5 rom, and that is Valkyrie v1, which has TF3D in case I didn't like the WM 6.5 interface. It all functions properly, so I'd recommend trying it (or other 6.5 roms) and see how it works for you.
However I'm seriously considering going back to WM6.1 . While this 6.5 rom works well and I'm glad Chefs are experimenting with 6.5 (doing a great job!), it just seems slower and less refined . I'll give it a bit more of a go before giving up though!
Regarding the WM6.5 interface, I personally thing TF3D is far better - why have such a tiny area for plug ins? Daft I reckon!
Give it a go and see what you think!
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You should test my SEX1/W4X ROM
I'll eat my shorts on YouTube if you don't say "oh" when oppening /windows/ in the file explorer
Link to thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509891
TITANIUM is a tOUCH! Flo killer: Faster, cleaner and smoother
TITANIUM is a Ferrari, tOUCH! Flo is a school bus: big, heavy and slooooow...
Just my 2 cents, MHO of course
Definately a YES. All I need to do now is to choose one. LOL. I am new to this as well, so a bit worried in losing my waranty if anything happens.
gtrab said:
You should test my SEX1/W4X ROM
I'll eat my shorts on YouTube if you don't say "oh" when oppening /windows/ in the file explorer
Link to thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509891
TITANIUM is a tOUCH! Flo killer: Faster, cleaner and smoother
TITANIUM is a Ferrari, tOUCH! Flo is a school bus: big, heavy and slooooow...
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I may give it a go, and if it crashes trying to load /windows/ I'll be looking forward to the youtube clip ;D
Touch Flo slow? Really? Seems very quick to me, at least on the latest roms. It also seems to have a much more efficient layout.
I've just put Touch-it v7.1+ (WM6.1) back on, and it's so much smoother & together than the 6.5 rom I tried!
But yes, I may give your rom a go gtrab, and see how it is. I'm sure 6.5 will have advantages, just not sure it's there yet.
What do you do in WM 6.5 for listening to music? S2P is no good (well, is good until you get a call and it mucks everything up!), WMP is no good for finger navigation.
Even if smooth though, I'm pretty sure the new TouchFlo is better than Titanium, but I will see if I can be persuaded
Comparisons are always subjective. I quite like the clean interface of Titanium and got bored of TouchFlo. I may get bored of Titanium and go to SPB Mobile Shell etc.
One thing you need to remember is that WinMo 6.5 (and the R3A ROM) are still in Beta so some may get bugs and some may not. FTR I am using gtrabs ROM and so far it is very good and I think it will be a keeper for me until the proper version comes out (i.e. no beta).
Apart from having to reload your programs there is no harm in giving it a try - if you don't like it you can go back to a 6.1....
Yes, I think you must try Gtrab's WM6.5 ROM...It plays with speed. I've tested another 4 WM6.5 ROMs, and finally i go back to Gtrab's one and said Wow! for his Rom.
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I may give it a go, and if it crashes trying to load /windows/ I'll be looking forward to the youtube clip ;D
Touch Flo slow? Really? Seems very quick to me, at least on the latest roms. It also seems to have a much more efficient layout.
I've just put Touch-it v7.1+ (WM6.1) back on, and it's so much smoother & together than the 6.5 rom I tried!
But yes, I may give your rom a go gtrab, and see how it is. I'm sure 6.5 will have advantages, just not sure it's there yet.
What do you do in WM 6.5 for listening to music? S2P is no good (well, is good until you get a call and it mucks everything up!), WMP is no good for finger navigation.
Even if smooth though, I'm pretty sure the new TouchFlo is better than Titanium, but I will see if I can be persuaded
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I use Sony's MXP panel for media
I don't like Touch Flo, I prefer the Panels and Titanium (both together)
Many "Touch Flo" cookers these a days, and just a couple of XPERIAncers as me
This is a matter of choices and tastes, very subjective, yes I agree with all of you
Only one thing is for real:
The only way to find WHICH ROM and WHAT softwere better suits your own needs is by trying...
Which car is better ?? Audi or Mercedes ??
You have to drive them both and make your personal pick
Same principle applies to ROMs
My oppinions:
1- If your personal preference is Touch-Flo, why upgrading to WM6.5 ???
You can get GREAT ouch Flo ROMs from itje, jack or smaberg
2- if you REALLY prefer Touch Flo, why buying a SONY XPERIA in the first place ??? The phone itself was not designed for Touch Flo !!!
Thanks for all of your replies.. i'll put on WM6.5 to test out now. I like your confidence gtrab, so i'll be puting on your barebone version first .
Oh, and regarding your questions in your last post: I am a fan of TF3D only because it adds a lot of usability that the default WinMo 6.1 lacks on its own. It also looks good and gives me all the information i need in an easy-to-access manner. If there was an alternative that maybe wasn't as good looking but had functionality and more importantly was fast and hopefully free then i'd be happy to move over to it (The PointUI panel was brilliant, but the lack of a large-font clock was a downer).
And as for why i bought an Xperia.. Well, mainly because i accidentally dunked my last phone in a cup of scalding hot tea . When looking around for new phones i liked what i saw in the Xperia reviews and so here i am. The phone itself is brilliant, apart from its default OS and panels. In theory they sounded great but in practice i didnt like the associated lag (on vanilla OS, at least) with it when switching from one panel to another. Still, it may be time to try them out again.
Ok, i'm off to flash a rom or two .
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2- if you REALLY prefer Touch Flo, why buying a SONY XPERIA in the first place ??? The phone itself was not designed for Touch Flo !!!
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Because w/ X1, we have a choice to pick panel and/or TF3D. Not the other way around since no others devices are able to run Panel stable.
OKOK, I admitted I would have a hard time to pick X1 or HD if HD fully support USA's 3G. ;p
gtrab said:
I use Sony's MXP panel for media
I don't like Touch Flo, I prefer the Panels and Titanium (both together)
Many "Touch Flo" cookers these a days, and just a couple of XPERIAncers as me
This is a matter of choices and tastes, very subjective, yes I agree with all of you
Only one thing is for real:
The only way to find WHICH ROM and WHAT softwere better suits your own needs is by trying...
Which car is better ?? Audi or Mercedes ??
You have to drive them both and make your personal pick
Same principle applies to ROMs
My oppinions:
1- If your personal preference is Touch-Flo, why upgrading to WM6.5 ???
You can get GREAT ouch Flo ROMs from itje, jack or smaberg
2- if you REALLY prefer Touch Flo, why buying a SONY XPERIA in the first place ??? The phone itself was not designed for Touch Flo !!!
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In the end, yes, you need to use what suits you.
1) Why upgrade to 6.5? Well, how would I know I preferred TF3D if I didn't try 6.5? And why not try something new? - it could be better, and I will keep trying new things, as the current TF3D will not be the best forever!
2) The Xperia runs TF3D perfectly well, and I knew this, so this did not put me off buying the Xperia. Also, hardware comes into it - the Xperia was my only real option, as nothing else (that's worth having) has WVGA screen and hardware keyboard.
While a lot of this is subjective, not all of it is. For example, the amount of useful space for an applet on TF3D compared to Titanium:
You can do much more with this space, e.g. calendar & music player.
If I had more time I'm sure I could show some of the objective advantages to TF3D, but I don't, he he! But I guess, even if one is actually better and more efficient, if you prefer the other one, then that's the one for you to use
And regarding the media panel, when I tried it, it seemed great, but when I changed back to default panel the music stopped - is this normal? I'd use it if I was able to run the music in the background while browsing the web & doing texts!
It's great we get such a choice on these phones, thanks to XDA dev!
is it possible to somehow make a clone of sony's new oled walkman? liike instead of using the media penal player, have it look like the walkman's touch interface?
i saw some vids and it seems to be pritty smooth and touch friendly.
thanx in advance and sorry if my question/request unknowingly violates a forum rule
would love to have this too!
ive actually been looking around for a sony walkman theme
It would be hella sweet to have something like that
possible? or not enough intrest?
I read that Palm makes a legal war against the palm pre theme, so to avoid copyright issues and waiting news to take off the skin
http://sites.google.com/site/developerdrmad/windows-mobile-projects
Preview looks good....
what are you using to skin this?
nice....will keep an eye on the progress of this skin...
JokeZony0u said:
what are you using to skin this?
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I using:
1. WAD
2. WAD desktop
3. iphone today
In this way the top bar webos style is always present!
Updated preview
It looks fantastic. Great job. Are you going to make a VGA-Version?
I don't think it would be that complicated. The PalmPre's homescreen is basically a big TaskManager. We already have "similar" apps on Windows Mobile like that on the Xperia. Just make a homescreen plugin with a large task manager like interface with the same touch gestures as the Pre. The complicated part I would imagine would be the menu.
I like your skins, but it would be best as a simple homescreen plugin. Using WAD and the likes eats up memory and the way it overlays sucks.
I'm not a programmer but there are lots of open-source projects that, if combined, could provide roughly the same effect. I think someone with some know-how could come up with it pretty quick by reusing code that is already available out there.
player911 said:
I don't think it would be that complicated. The PalmPre's homescreen is basically a big TaskManager. We already have "similar" apps on Windows Mobile like that on the Xperia. Just make a homescreen plugin with a large task manager like interface with the same touch gestures as the Pre. The complicated part I would imagine would be the menu.
I like your skins, but it would be best as a simple homescreen plugin. Using WAD and the likes eats up memory and the way it overlays sucks.
I'm not a programmer but there are lots of open-source projects that, if combined, could provide roughly the same effect. I think someone with some know-how could come up with it pretty quick by reusing code that is already available out there.
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Before starting this project I tried a lot but none of the programmers built an interface palm webos like for WM. There are iphone, android, and other but webos not so I decided to build it yourself.
I hope very much that any programmer to engage in this project and does a better job of mine!
drmad said:
Before starting this project I tried a lot but none of the programmers built an interface palm webos like for WM. There are iphone, android, and other but webos not so I decided to build it yourself.
I hope very much that any programmer to engage in this project and does a better job of mine!
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Look like PalmPre.Very beautiful and cool
really really nice hope to c a dialer =)
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Development continues! Added dialer
YAY give it! RELEASE NOW lol jk =D
but yes cool
Job well done.... This would go good with the WM6.5 theme I put together.
http://www.fuzeberry.com/PreFuzed.html
Looking good. Here's my little take on it. Using a modded PointUi
Slightly off-topic tip: I suggest Omnia users should use PointUi 2.0.28e if they want their phone/clock to function poperly. Any other higher version causes the clock to stick and (possibly) corrupt the green button.
subscribed!
hopefully vga support soon
WOW super nice. very clean. hope the release will be soon definately going to donate for this
WOW nice man, ill use this when it comes out. is this another wad theme?
s60nia said:
Looking good. Here's my little take on it. Using a modded PointUi
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Slightly off-topic tip: I suggest Omnia users should use PointUi 2.0.28e if they want their phone/clock to function poperly. Any other higher version causes the clock to stick and (possibly) corrupt the green button.
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can you give a link to the theme your using?
This thread could be some sort of showoff/help-thread!
I know there are some other threads like "show your desktop" etc. but why not one dedicated to xperia? since there are some apps etc. only for xperia and of course dedicated ROMs..
Why I put this in the ROM-dev section is because almost everything is based on the ROM, looks etc. so I think this will be the best choice. My thoughts is to discuss wich ROM to use, to get certain results and so on.
Tips and trix, insperation, help and what so ever! But most important, post screenshots if you think you have something thats intresting! A picture is worth more than a thousand words.
Second thought, Theme's and Apps maby fits better. Mod move this if thats the case
happy posting!
edit; If you do not know how to take screens, there are some apps out there, google screen capture or similar I recommend WIFI Remote Access though! Check it out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=586654
First out I guess.
MrRusch NUTS 6.1 rom, why? Speed and stability, have not found a single 6.5 ROM with the same speed and stability yet Notify me if you find any ^^
SPB mobileshell with naong MobileSense theme. Like the SPB MS since its so customizable, running really smooth on the NUTS rom. Typing sms super fast on hardware keyboard is no problem, not a bit laggy
All homescreen works in landscape mode ofc. Swype left to go to left homescreen, right to right (obviously). All customizable!
Screens!
beababe said:
First out I guess.
MrRusch NUTS 6.1 rom, why? Speed and stability, have not found a single 6.5 ROM with the same speed and stability yet Notify me if you find any ^^
SPB mobileshell with mtstmp and keith's espresso theme. Like the SPB MS since its so customizable, running really smooth on the NUTS rom. Typing sms super fast on hardware keyboard is no problem, not a bit laggy
All homescreen works in landscape mode ofc. Swype left to go to left homescreen, right to right (obviously). All customizable!
Screens!
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well... not a bad thread, specaly for noobs... but... under XPERIA X1 ROM Development section ?
It doesn't seems like a ROM neither it help with development, neither is a question or an answer. I think this should be posted to XPERIA X1 General
think it is excelently placed under ROM develop,
i use the leo valkyrie 6.1 rom atm. very happy about it
its with a pretty standard manilla but very fast and stable.
uristic said:
well... not a bad thread, specaly for noobs... but... under XPERIA X1 ROM Development section ?
It doesn't seems like a ROM neither it help with development, neither is a question or an answer. I think this should be posted to XPERIA X1 General
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Yes, but I told "why" in ROM section maybe fits better in Themes-section as I also mentioned in first post mod can move this if agreed.
But first idea was to discuss wich ROM to use, and why. Then why not all-in-one thread.
been on the x826 rom for a long time. Love it!! <33
hahaha lunie by the looks of it you seem one hell of a hardcore anime fan
i am using 826x rom and its simply the best, battery life and performance , no other rom matches this series.
Lunie said:
been on the x826 rom for a long time. Love it!! <33
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Hi which release version you're?
What modification & what theme?
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ROM:826x
Manila Icons: Wipeout Transparent
Mods: S2U2, JWD Icon changer(i think its called that ), Dark Ninja Android Taskbar, Condor GT Black Edition
HD Wallpaper: Ganaha Hibiki
Lunie said:
been on the x826 rom for a long time. Love it!! <33
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Cool!!! You make the rom looks really cool!!!
williyung said:
Cool!!! You make the rom looks really cool!!!
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Thanks you! ^^'
This is an old pic but i'll try posting more tommorow to beautify x1. <333
Lunie said:
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ROM:826x
Manila Icons: Wipeout Transparent
Mods: S2U2, JWD Icon changer(i think its called that ), Dark Ninja Android Taskbar, Condor GT Black Edition
HD Wallpaper: Ganaha Hibiki
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There're many 826x release, which one?
i thought 826x rom uses the round type of start button? which version are you using?
Lunie said:
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ROM:826x
Manila Icons: Wipeout Transparent
Mods: S2U2, JWD Icon changer(i think its called that ), Dark Ninja Android Taskbar, Condor GT Black Edition
HD Wallpaper: Ganaha Hibiki
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youliang said:
i thought 826x rom uses the round type of start button? which version are you using?
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She left hahaha
youliang said:
i thought 826x rom uses the round type of start button? which version are you using?
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the android taskbar gives you the square softkeys
youliang said:
i thought 826x rom uses the round type of start button? which version are you using?
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Nightrage said:
the android taskbar gives you the square softkeys
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It's the condor gt black edition mod. Install that and you get the square buttons. Which i prefer over the round ones!
Lunie said:
been on the x826 rom for a long time. Love it!! <33
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Okay, I don't want to sound rude, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but, I'm going to assume you are FEMALE. Am I correct? If not, then please...don't take any offense!
For some reason, due to the level of geekiness of this place, I always assumed everyone here was male! lol I think I'm totally wrong about that!!
deezy7 said:
Okay, I don't want to sound rude, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but, I'm going to assume you are FEMALE. Am I correct? If not, then please...don't take any offense!
For some reason, due to the level of geekiness of this place, I always assumed everyone here was male! lol I think I'm totally wrong about that!!
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lmao.
Being into tech is purely a male thing then?
djglenn1337 said:
lmao.
Being into tech is purely a male thing then?
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Definitely not!
But I will say that it is primarily a male thing! However, any female participation in any geek culture I think is always appreciated! Umm...just not sure about when they decorate their participation with girly anime stuff lol....how about some Akira and Eva and GITS?!
Haha yeah, most guys think this is a guys only forum.
Everone always replies to me with "hey dude" or "thanks man" and I am a girl too. I don't mind but sometimes you get funny situations when you want flowery wallpapers or something because then everybody thinks you're a gay guy or something
Oh and I am using the Enery Rom by NRGZ28 from march 17 by the way. With Xperoid and GenYdualboot. But I don't use Xperoid that much, I'm waiting till it is a bit more stable. But the Energy Rom is great imo very fast and stable.
Does X10 have panel manager? All I've heard from X10 are timescape and mediascape.. Xperia isn't Xperia without panel manager (in my opinion)
I love the panel manager in both X1 and X2 (of course X5 is not considered) but X10?
No Panel manager, at least at the moment anyway.
That means SE is officially abandoning Panel Manager in X10? Although it's great or fine if there will be xdadevs that can add PM in x10.. But still, never thought SE would just give up it's Xperia-ness..
I think SE have made a concsious effort to revamp the xperia.
They have dropped the panels in favour of the new UX, which is basically just two apps (the scapes).
The new Mini and pro are also in the xperia range and use the scapes without the use of the panels.
I also think it's down to the OS.
The panels originated on WinMob which only had one homescreen. The panels were useful in this scenario as shortcuts and for easy access to running apps.
With the intro of android you have multiple homescreens to start with and can access an MRU list by long pressing the homebutton I don't think the panels would be as effective, It would be just more eye candy.
You can always live in the hope that they will restore them.
Oh thanks for telling that mate.. Really hope they'll restore it back..
Why would you even want the panels back? They were the worst part of my X1 by FAR!
Flamso said:
Why would you even want the panels back? They were the worst part of my X1 by FAR!
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dunno.. But I just love the panels.. It gets better in X2.. It'll definitely gets better in X10 if they have it.
(Of course like what Baggyb said.. It's an eye candy for me.. Not that they're useful or something.. but it kinda display an elegant look for the phone.)
Panels work well with WinMo where you need complete UI replacements, and they work well on the smaller X1 and X2 screens where things like a car friendly interface are needed (On the Road Panel). But like was said above, I wouldn't want the panel face on the X10, Android is good enough, and its multiple home-screens accomplish what Panels do for the most part anyway.
I think it is very definite that Panels are not coming to the X10, or any Android phone for that matter. In fact, I think Panels as a whole are dead with WM6 as Windows Phone 7 doesn't allow for UI changes.