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Help! Stuck on Align Screen!

Guys, I hope you can help me!
I was using my Imate Jasjar when it was accidentally bumped by another person. the Jasjar fell but it wasn't that high and the floor was carpetted. However, I noticed that whenever i try to tap on the Start button on landscape mode, the calendar application opens up! And when I try to tap V-Bar on the other corner opposite the Start button, the Contacts application opens up. Basically, the soft keys on the bottom screen are the one opening up even if I'm tapping the ones on top! If I tap the bottom soft keys, I thought the Start button or my V-bar would come out but still the Calendar and Contacts applications were the ones that opened. Basically the everything on top cannot be tapped!
On Portrait mode, I can tap the start button but when the V-Bar was tapped it still opens the Contacts application.
I went to Settings then Screen to re-align the screen. I thought it would solve the problem but apparently it didn't! I was trapped in the Align Screen section giving me an endless loop to tap the 5 areas of the screen.
I now did a Hard Reset, and now I'm forever got stucked to the Align Screen part.
What am I supposed to do??? Please help!!!

Hi,
Seen the same problem... Try to guess the error margin of the alignment...
for example instead of tapping in the center of the cross try tapping on left or right... Since your screen isn't aligned you can't press on the center...
Now the problem is hardware, not the MB but the LCD...
After tou figure out the margin error, the Universal will resume and then you ca align the screen via Start->Settings->System, align screen
I'll try to know more about this problem asking my friend.
Best of luck

thanks for your reply!
i also believe that it has something to do with the LCD. there are no cracks whatsoever. problem with the aligning is i have to keep on guessing. and if ever i do align the screen successfully, i'm not sure if re-aligning the screen in Settings would solve the problem.
i would appreciate though if your friend or anybody else can shed light to a solution.

This is a simple problem to solve ;-)
When the allign screen is ON and you have to make the first tap on the crosshair (just before you start clicking away to allign your screen), twist your display from landscape to portrait mode...
Now continue to allign it as usual, and you should finish successfully!
Cheers,
San

unfortunately, after following your instructions, i still went on an endless loop on aligning the screen. i'll try to reflash the rom and see if it would work. i hope it does...

i updated my ROM. still stuck on the alignment screen!
any more ideas?

To be honest, sounds like your screen is broke. Even if you got it to align, I doubt it would be very usable. I think you are looking at repair - if there's no visible sign of damage, you might get away with a warranty repair.
Cheers,
Steve.

Hi
Few months back i've got exactly the same problems (odd LCD behavior, impossible alignment, etc...) with an HP4700. I went to the service center and they had to replace the LCD screen. They did not charge me and take it under warranty. In my case the unit did not drop and i made it clear to them. I would suggest you go back to the service center and forget about the drop in your problem description .
Cheers,
Bruno

I had the same thing happen on a HP 3700, I did not even drop it all i did was install the Quake game for it and after a few days the screen alignment went a bit out. It was usable but definately out by about 1 cm in each direction. The unit had not been dropped. I went into the allign screen utillity and ended up in the infinite loop. The only way to fix was a new screen. But unforunately it was no longer under warranty. The screen consists of 2 separate parts the lcd and the touch screen bit. In my case the lcd had no issues just the touch screen. Very annoying but there you go.
Search your soul and do what you feel comfortable with.
Good luck
Charlie

thanks for all your replies!
i've made several searches yesterday with similar problems (even if they're using different PPC models) and they all ended up sending back their units for repair. there's even one who posted in expansys with the same exact problem!
we'll be sending it back through expansys (we got the unit from them) and hopefully get it back before the end of the month. and yes, i won't tell them that it was dropped, he he :twisted: and they won't find evidence either on the outside because there are no physical damages. what a start of the new year for me <sigh>
right now i'm back using my XDA IIi.
thanks for all your support! this is my first thread/topic in this site and it's so unfortunate that it had to be sort of a negative one. looking forward to be active more here!

Hello there
This might help (I am currently wrking with 200 PDAs so have had this a few times)
THere may be a iece of dust/biscuit crumb etc, under the edge of the casing above the screen, try using a post it note or paper and go around the casing/edge of screen, this should clear the screen of anything that may be causing this problem.
THis worked for me on the majority of non-aligning screens
HTH
DB

My story was, one day when I needed to twist the screen, it was a bit stuck so I twisted a bit harder, yes it went back. Then few days later, the mis-alignment started and since then I have been keeping to do re-alignment my screen.
My screen is mis-aligned once every 2 or 3 days or even few minutes then I have to re-align by using WM5's alignment program. It sometimes takes me 2 or 3 times or even one time.
The most anoying thing is it keeps forget after aligned screen.
Now, certainty, I don't think it is a screen problem because after running alignment app, it correctly pointed into the right spot but then it forgot where the right position was.
I have done the upgraded ROM ( even tried Ivan AKU 3.2 ROM ) but problem still persisted.
I just tried clean up the edge of screen, finger cross, hope it fixes my problem.
Bad thing is, I bought my device from UK and I am living in Australia so therefore, my warranty is definately invalid. I don't want to spend 200 AUD for the new screen ( unless I am 100% sure that LCD is faulty ).
Anyone has any idea or even a better suggestion because I don't see many people having this problem.
I suspects that maybe the flex cable got ripped but not totally ripped. Don't know , please help me out on this one
Best regards

Anyone has any idea about my problem ??
One question :
I know that the flex cable has 2 connectors ( one is for LCD display and another is for LCD function ). Now does LCD function relate to the touch screen function ? and if one tiny wire of the function cable got cracked, but not totally cracked, will it affect the touch screen function ?
Other thing, does WM5 store any setting relating to screen alignment setting ? If yes, where is it ?
Thanks

Hi, from another forum, it only help to bypass the alignement loop:
"here you go theses are simple steps to bypass the touchscreen alignment.
Install you activesyn blah blah blah when it finds it go on my computer and go into your PDA device
go to windows startup and delete the Welcome file
after that give your PPC a soft reset and BAM u by passed the screen now get a free desktop program liek pocket controller from the internet it will automatically install on your pda and BAM you can control your pda add music and whatever
but now if you want to click stuff on the road get pen irazu just search on google and send it to your PDA then go to file explorer and double click it and you got a cute little mouse program that you can use like a stylus"
also try this little soft:
http://www.codefactory.es/downloads/mobile_speak_pocket/release/MSP_RemoteAlignment.zip
Hope it helps.
MaX

Hi godtakeit!
I've had the same problem a few weeks ago (and still having it from time to time) and for me a slight (very careful) bending of the screen makes it work again. It seems to me that there are connector behind or near the display which has some loose contacts.
Did you notice any other problems which came in conjuction with the alignment problem (e.g. speaker not working)?
.ox

Hi oxident
No, I don't have problem with speaker ( it was not working before but it is because of the jack plug problem - it solved ). Yeah, I did notice if I bend the screen carefully, the problem is gone. The funny thing is when I aligned the screen, it worked but if I closed it off and left it over night, it started again when I opened the lid.
You may right about the connector between LCD screen and mainboard. Well, I have no choice but openning the device and check it up.
Also, I read the thread somewhere in this forum and somebody advised this problem maybe relates to magnet around device. My brother aslo advised me that LCD charged and reserved negative electrons. Wierd but I am experiment it at the moment ( taking off battery and leave the device for a few days so that it can release the negative electrons ).
Hope it fixes

please help
i have an imate jas jam that i i got from my father he used it for like 3 years and it is pretty banged up so i cant use the warranty and repairs cost a lot, any who i got it yesterday and it was very slow so i reset the settings and now im stuck on the align screen it keeps going on for ever and ever if any one knows any thing plzzzz help

Welcome aboard
You have one of the best HTC devices ever made!
Have a look here to locate the solution to your prob:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549207
Post number 2
Good luck,

Crazy Tytn screen and button problem, please help

Hi all, this is my first post on this forum but I've been reading for a while to educate myself.
I've got a Herm200 that I've been trying to troubleshoot but to no avail. I'm fairly certain that it has a hardware problem but I haven't been able to isolate anything.
Here's whats happening:
Occasionally the screen will come out of stand-by all white. This will also happen randomly if i touch the screen to perform a command. While the screen is operating, sometimes the buttons on the face will stop working, however the buttons across both sides will continue working just fine.
When the screen turns all white a soft, hard, or stand-by cycle will not always bring it back to life. The fact that the hard reset wont always fix the problem makes me think it's a hardware issue since the phone will boot-up with the the all-white screen.
This is incredibly frustrating especially since HTC wont accept any warranty claims in the USA on the Tytn.
At first I thought this might be a problem with the ribon connection between the screen and the base but i haven't been able to confirm or discount anything at this point. I have yet to find a way to consistently reproduce or rectify the problem so it's very hard to troubleshoot.
I pretty much have to take a second phone with me everywhere right now just incase i need to make a call. Please help! Has anyone ever encountered such a problem?
Thank you in advance!

SneezyRobot said:
Occasionally the screen will come out of stand-by all white. This will also happen randomly if i touch the screen to perform a command. While the screen is operating, sometimes the buttons on the face will stop working, however the buttons across both sides will continue working just fine.
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Hi. This sounds very similar to a problem that I experienced with a HERMES100. I bought the phone off someone on Ebay recently - someone had obviously scrambled the radio on it. I re-flashed it, and it sprang to life. However, after a couple of days, I experienced a problem where occasionally the LCD would stop refreshing, all the pixels faded away leaving only a white screen. Under these circumstances, some of the buttons on the phone stopped working. Turning phone on/off sometimes cured the problem, or it would require the occasional hard reset. This would happen once or twice a day and I suspect thats why someone tried to re-flash the phone.
In the end, out of curiosity I took the entire phone apart, put it all back together again and now there are no more problems!! Totally fixed!
My suspicion is that it was one of the ribbon cable push connectors on the mainboard - possibly not seated properly, or a bit of dirt contaminating the connection. Obviously when I took the phone apart I must have re-seated it.
If you are planning to take your phone apart, please exercise considerable care because some of the parts are very small and easily damaged. I would recommend buying a proper kit to take it apart. I bought mine for about £5 off ebay. Particularly useful are the plastic spoon "wedges" used to gently prise open the case after removing the screens. Don't use a screwdriver - you will scratch the case.
Good luck.

wow... that sounds like exactly what's going on here, I actually even tried to disassemble it lastnight but didnt have the right driver set. thank you for the advice!
I'll look for one of those sets but what would you search for if i needed to find it?

Thanks again, I just got a set off of Ebay. Hopefully it'll be here next week
With any luck it'll be a connection issue.

I have had the exact same problem. Because I got the Tytn through work I made our IT department handle the issue and I am currently waiting for a replacement and to find out what happened.

Yep, it looks like the problems the OP is having are very similar to the problems we've been having over in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291027
I'm beginning to think it's a hardware problem as well but not entirely sure.
People in the above thread mentioned that using the scroll wheel a while then moving back to use the D pad fixed the problem (very briefly in my case.) Once I use the center D pad button again it locks the hardware buttons under the screen until I make my device sleep and resume.
Somtimes rather than making all the front hardware buttons unresponsive the issue is that once I use the Down Dpad button I can't use the up button. Pressing up will make it go down, as will pressing down (at least that's working ).
Regarding the white screen - this sometimes also occurs. I can force it to white screen by putting a little pressure on the silver panel surrounding the top, right and bottom of the screen (I have an imate jasjam). Randomly when there's no pressure on the rim and I wake it out of standby, it has a white screen that can only be fixed by turning the screen off and on again.
Finally, the LED indicator seems screwy. Sometimes it never flashes. Other times it flashes sporadically (uneven intervals - we're talking maybe a minute between one flash then seconds before another). When I charge it sometimes the LED doesn't come on but nevertheless it charges. Sometimes if the LED is on it never turns green to indicate a full charge. Yet other times it comes on orange, turns green, then never switches off!
Is it possible that
a) The hardware button problems.
b) The white screen problem.
c) The LED problem.
are all related to some kind of connection going loose? Why would the hardware button problem be temporarily fixable with use of the scroll wheel if this were the case?
The other thread has fallen silent. I'm hoping that some of the gurus in here can offer some input here, even if they don't know the answer but can formulate an opinion. I know very little about these devices.
Thanks in advance guys!
PS - don't really know if I should start another thread, I've posted here as it seems like very much the same issue.

Anybody any idea? advice?

I had a similar problem with my HERM100. I didn't mess around with it too much, I just had Cingular replace it out of warranty exchange (thank god those original ROMs are on the wiki ). I did notice however that after doing a master reset, the screen would function again although I haven't messed around with it too much. I got so frustrated with removing the battery for 5 minutes and STILL powering on with a white screen that I just threw it in my back seat until the new one arrived.

I don't have these screen issues. I only have hardware button problems. It's so damn frustrating! I already own a replacement.
I just received a call from my girlfriend. I wasn't able to answer the phone with the buttons, only with a screentap. I also wasn't able to close the call with the hardware button. Since the side buttons work, I went to settings -> phone, closed it, and there we go. The hardware buttons worked again.
Why the heck is this? I truly hope for some wizz out there with some advice, since HTC would only tell me to send it back after replacing it with a new TyTN with same issues.
Regards,
DM.

Anyone anyone?

HELP!!!!
barncourt said:
Hi. This sounds very similar to a problem that I experienced with a HERMES100. I bought the phone off someone on Ebay recently - someone had obviously scrambled the radio on it. I re-flashed it, and it sprang to life. However, after a couple of days, I experienced a problem where occasionally the LCD would stop refreshing, all the pixels faded away leaving only a white screen. Under these circumstances, some of the buttons on the phone stopped working. Turning phone on/off sometimes cured the problem, or it would require the occasional hard reset. This would happen once or twice a day and I suspect thats why someone tried to re-flash the phone.
In the end, out of curiosity I took the entire phone apart, put it all back together again and now there are no more problems!! Totally fixed!
My suspicion is that it was one of the ribbon cable push connectors on the mainboard - possibly not seated properly, or a bit of dirt contaminating the connection. Obviously when I took the phone apart I must have re-seated it.
If you are planning to take your phone apart, please exercise considerable care because some of the parts are very small and easily damaged. I would recommend buying a proper kit to take it apart. I bought mine for about £5 off ebay. Particularly useful are the plastic spoon "wedges" used to gently prise open the case after removing the screens. Don't use a screwdriver - you will scratch the case.
Good luck.
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This is my first post as I've so far managed to cure all my issues from just reading the forum. However, I am now having a similar problem with the white screen.
I have a cingular 8525. It fell and the following day the call and end buttons remained lit and wouldn't turn off and they also wouldn't work.
I soft reset, nothing, I then removed the battery and when I turned it back on, there was a white screen and the buttons below still don't work.
I have read the other posts on this issue, but I need help on exactly what kit to buy to reconnect the screen cable and instructions on how to do it as I've never taken apart a phone before, although I have dabbled with other electronic devices.
Your help would be much appreciated, as I am in Jamaica and there are no technicians here who I trust to help.
Thanks in advance.
Below are links to 2 kits I'm thinking of getting. Is either one better than the other?
http://www.pdasmart.com/pdaphonehtcmini.htm?gclid=CJrHntO-hosCFQx1VAodaQf6KQ
http://cgi.ebay.com/SCREWDRIVERS-TO...01677255QQcategoryZ108648QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

CINGULAR IN JA said:
This is my first post as I've so far managed to cure all my issues from just reading the forum. However, I am now having a similar problem with the white screen.
I have a cingular 8525. It fell and the following day the call and end buttons remained lit and wouldn't turn off and they also wouldn't work.
I soft reset, nothing, I then removed the battery and when I turned it back on, there was a white screen and the buttons below still don't work.
I have read the other posts on this issue, but I need help on exactly what kit to buy to reconnect the screen cable and instructions on how to do it as I've never taken apart a phone before, although I have dabbled with other electronic devices.
Your help would be much appreciated, as I am in Jamaica and there are no technicians here who I trust to help.
Thanks in advance.
Below are links to 2 kits I'm thinking of getting. Is either one better than the other?
http://www.pdasmart.com/pdaphonehtcmini.htm?gclid=CJrHntO-hosCFQx1VAodaQf6KQ
http://cgi.ebay.com/SCREWDRIVERS-TO...01677255QQcategoryZ108648QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Both kits look ok. PDA one tells you a little more but the basics appear to be in both.
I'm curious though you soft reset and took the battery out, but have you done a HARD reset? I would always try this first before dismantling.
Mike

In my case, they also are always lit up when the screen is also active.
And no matter what ROM version, they occasionally stop responding. Side buttons keep working.

mikechannon said:
Both kits look ok. PDA one tells you a little more but the basics appear to be in both.
I'm curious though you soft reset and took the battery out, but have you done a HARD reset? I would always try this first before dismantling.
Mike
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Thanks for the response.
I couldn't do a hard reset because the buttons weren't working.
I have made some progress with the phone now. Found a tech guy who looked at it for me. The white screen is gone, but the buttons still stop working from time to time.
All the connections seem ok.
Is there anything else that could cause the buttons to malfunction?

CINGULAR IN JA said:
Thanks for the response.
I couldn't do a hard reset because the buttons weren't working.
I have made some progress with the phone now. Found a tech guy who looked at it for me. The white screen is gone, but the buttons still stop working from time to time.
All the connections seem ok.
Is there anything else that could cause the buttons to malfunction?
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Nothing obvious.
Have you got applications installed that you have loaded - could be one thats playing up.
Have you now been able to do a hard reset?
If taking device apart and reassembling improved things it does suggest hardware though and might be worth double checking all those multi-connector blocks for good connections - i.e. take them out and in a few times to ensure any oxidation on contacts is removed.
Mike

mikechannon said:
Nothing obvious.
Have you got applications installed that you have loaded - could be one thats playing up.
Have you now been able to do a hard reset?
If taking device apart and reassembling improved things it does suggest hardware though and might be worth double checking all those multi-connector blocks for good connections - i.e. take them out and in a few times to ensure any oxidation on contacts is removed.
Mike
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Thanks Mike.
I will give that a shot.
I haven't installed any new applications recently, so I don't think it is a software issue.
Thanks again.

CINGULAR IN JA said:
Thanks Mike.
I will give that a shot.
I haven't installed any new applications recently, so I don't think it is a software issue.
Thanks again.
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If it wouldn't be a software issue, why is it, in my case, instantly resolved when going to settings -> phone with the side buttons?

i had this problem i took it to a guy who fixed the problem he said it was a very small tear in the flex cable which causes this white screen every now ant then and the buton problem , sorry to say its the cable problem and u need a very capable person to fix it or replace it with a new one . its very common problem baised on the guy who fixed it .

dmxl said:
I don't have these screen issues. I only have hardware button problems. It's so damn frustrating! I already own a replacement.
I just received a call from my girlfriend. I wasn't able to answer the phone with the buttons, only with a screentap. I also wasn't able to close the call with the hardware button. Since the side buttons work, I went to settings -> phone, closed it, and there we go. The hardware buttons worked again.
Why the heck is this? I truly hope for some wizz out there with some advice, since HTC would only tell me to send it back after replacing it with a new TyTN with same issues.
Regards,
DM.
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Exactly what is happening to me, no white screen issues, just screen taps and answering calls, I also have another problem where the PDA will not allow me to open anything, be it the start menu or contacts, it will open and quickly close again. I have had mine swapped through Telstra in Sydney, it worked fine for a while and then the same crap again. These problems started before I even touched the OS, so it must be a build problem. Maybe we should write a joint letter to HTC letting them know that there is a serious problem with their machine.

I have had the same problem, got my Tytn through work so we sent it back to the company that supplied it to us. Got it back yesterday and they had replaced the "switchboard". Not sure what it is but there was the problem. Had white screen and buttons not working.

My touchscreen won't work.

I've done everything I could do without taking apart the phone.
I don't know what's wrong, sometimes it will work sometimes it won't.
Now though, I reinstalled WM5 (latest cingular build) and I have to tap the screen to start using it, but the screen won't work.

that happened to me when I put a screen protector on my phone. I took off the protector and the phone worked again

I dont have one of those.

Has the mobile fallen on the ground? Make sure the screen doesn't have any dust on the borders... if there is contact on the screen on any point, it won't recognize any other point of touch (multi-touch is not supported by our screens).

I'll try cleaning that out when I get a can of compressed air

I got it to work for a second so I can use the phone. Now I just want it to always work.

dferreira said:
Has the mobile fallen on the ground? Make sure the screen doesn't have any dust on the borders... if there is contact on the screen on any point, it won't recognize any other point of touch (multi-touch is not supported by our screens).
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Thanks so much for this post!!
The other day my touch screen stopped responding to my taps.. The lcd worked fine and I could still navigate with the buttons, it just wouldn't respond to touch..
So I was almost ready to take my phone apart to see if the digitizer connection was loose.. I decided to search around and see what other ppl had to say about TS problems.
I read this post and started to go around the edges of the screen with a business card and lo and behold it started to work again.. Must've just been some dirt up in there.. You just saved me a huge headache!
Thanks dferreira

My screen is all white now.
Anyone know how to take apart the phone, I'm thinkin my ribbon is not connected right.

At&t 8525 touchscreen problems, please help

Hello,
I've recently been looking around online to figure out a solution to my problem and I came across this forum, I honestly had no clue of all of the things possible with this phone...
I have an At&t 8525 (in august I will have had it for a year) and just yesterday I started having problems with the touchscreen, when I would try to use the touchscreen nothing would be functional...after messing around on the screen I found out that the lower right hand corner of the screen (the right hand corner when the keyboard is in use) pulls up the start menu...although the touchscreen didn't work the phone itself still did, I could access the start menu and other actions on the phone by pushing the soft keys...
This morning I started toying with my phone again and it worked normally for some time and then eventually the screen started to do the same as it was doing before...so thinking that the problem was a virus or something, I figured I would reinstall wm6 back onto the phone hoping that it'd restore everything to normal...now I'm stuck on the 'welcome to windows mobile green screen' and only once have I gotten to the 'align screen'...
I truly don't know what or how to fix this problem with my touchscreen and I'm really new to all of these phone experiences...(I'm pretty sure returning the phone is out of the question)
So any help given would be very much apriciated,
-Ben

benman715 said:
Hello,
I've recently been looking around online to figure out a solution to my problem and I came across this forum, I honestly had no clue of all of the things possible with this phone...
I have an At&t 8525 (in august I will have had it for a year) and just yesterday I started having problems with the touchscreen, when I would try to use the touchscreen nothing would be functional...after messing around on the screen I found out that the lower right hand corner of the screen (the right hand corner when the keyboard is in use) pulls up the start menu...although the touchscreen didn't work the phone itself still did, I could access the start menu and other actions on the phone by pushing the soft keys...
This morning I started toying with my phone again and it worked normally for some time and then eventually the screen started to do the same as it was doing before...so thinking that the problem was a virus or something, I figured I would reinstall wm6 back onto the phone hoping that it'd restore everything to normal...now I'm stuck on the 'welcome to windows mobile green screen' and only once have I gotten to the 'align screen'...
I truly don't know what or how to fix this problem with my touchscreen and I'm really new to all of these phone experiences...(I'm pretty sure returning the phone is out of the question)
So any help given would be very much apriciated,
-Ben
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This is a loose connection between the main .. device and the touch screen . There is this cable that connects the screen and the keypad .. that has a loose contact. press the screen and the keypad together and the touch sreen should start working again . i had this same issue i don't know how to fix it.

Sounds like this problem here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288233
The above is an old thread. You can try the old business card trick (though it's by no means guaranteed to work). You could try a dis-assembly and reconstruction, double checking connections - particularly the screen to d-pad connection.
The Hermes unlike the Kaiser is very prone to this kind of problem and despite the threads you may see, guaranteeing a fix, I don't believe there is one fix for this problem. This is because there are several variables that can cause the problem and it just depends whether your case is caused by:
Dust trapped under the bezel
A loose connector - possibly d/pad to screen
A failed capacitor on d/pad or main board
Another failed component
Digitizer coming unglued from LCD
etc
Mike

Had the same problem right before EVERYTHING went white. Replaced the lcd altogether, about $110Aud on ebay, and everthing works great again.
Cheers....

Major touch screen problem with touch hd!!

touchscreen was working today morning, took battery out for 2 hours, turned it back on and it was working abit weird, and now i cant press any touchscreen buttons atall!
So no softkeys (pick call, home etc.) and nothining on the big screen! I can turn on the phone, press the power button and volume buttons, see my home screen get calls etc.. hard reset twice, took battery out, nothing does it .. gonna try flash it but dont think itll do it ... and ideas?
Im in uk aswell if that makes a diff

Dear All,
I have similar problem. Usuallí I use on my HD NRG ROM. About 3 weeks ago I updated to the latest NRG WM 6.5 23xxx ROM with Sense 2.5 Maxmanila version, and since this upgrade the touch screen position moving randomized up or down from 2 mm to 30mm!!! After this ROM I tryed updating each newer version, but not changed nothing. I need realign the screen about 10 times / day!!! The phone I never dropped or cracked.
Can help me somebody what happened with my HD?

I had this happen to me yesterday. I was surfing on my phone as per the norm. Put my phone down. Got a txt, picked it up and it wouldnt allow me to access it. I thought it must be a freeze as it has happened occasionally.
So I restarted.............and nothing. No response AT ALL from the touch screen.
I have noticed the oily spot problem on the most part of my screen, and thescreen doesnt have that little give it used to when using it (paranoia possibly)
So I can only assume something has given within the screen. Ive been searching all day on the internet for causes and fixes but nothing has come up.
The volume and power buttons work but I cant do anything at all with the phone as its obviously all touch based.
Is this a screen replacement job then or is the whole phone goosed?
Roheelshah if you turn your phone off do you have the massive oily screen thing?
Any help is most appreciated....

I had the same thing, a oily spot, but it was there for months, then i noticed another new spot (looked like a tiny tiny burn) and thats when it stopped working completely... ive ordered a new screen which should be comming in a few days, im hoping thats the issue
will let you know if it works ....
keep me updated if you find anything
thanks!
NECROSTONE said:
I had this happen to me yesterday. I was surfing on my phone as per the norm. Put my phone down. Got a txt, picked it up and it wouldnt allow me to access it. I thought it must be a freeze as it has happened occasionally.
So I restarted.............and nothing. No response AT ALL from the touch screen.
I have noticed the oily spot problem on the most part of my screen, and thescreen doesnt have that little give it used to when using it (paranoia possibly)
So I can only assume something has given within the screen. Ive been searching all day on the internet for causes and fixes but nothing has come up.
The volume and power buttons work but I cant do anything at all with the phone as its obviously all touch based.
Is this a screen replacement job then or is the whole phone goosed?
Roheelshah if you turn your phone off do you have the massive oily screen thing?
Any help is most appreciated....
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download and install this _HTC Touch HD_TouchHD system.exe

BOLDESH said:
download and install this _HTC Touch HD_TouchHD system.exe
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whats it do? and where from??

I just posted something like this a few days ago, pulled my phone out and screen wouldnt respond, had these marks all over my screen, "swirly marks" as i describe it, very well could be the oily marks you are talking about. you can move them around with your finger right?
anyway, i took my sim out, tryna find a spare phone, couple hours later the marks were gone and screen started working again, touch wood its been fine since.
no idea what happened, but try letting it air out or something

ok basically i received a new digitizer today (the actual touchscreen) ...
i dismantled the whole phone using the service manual and some video some guy made (VERY HELPFUL, if anyone wants it for any reason i can post a link), ok so i got rid of all the top bits, the circuit boards (or watever theyre called)
I got down to just the bezel, lcd and digitizer (dont know what a bezel is, the lcd is where the display actually is and digitizer is directly stuck ontop of that)
Apparently when replacing the screen, htc have made it so that you have to replace all three of those parts instead of individual ones, but you can buy them seperately so i thought i'd hero it.
i poked out the screen from the frame (some chewingum like stuff holding it in) then i started peeling off the digitizer (if you get one and want to try it you'll know where to peel) ... this was a mistake tho cause the lcd is unbelievebly sensitive so while peeling off it left scratches on the lcd, and me not knowing the lcd is sticky tried to wipe them and use a dust free cloth, which left alot of crap on the actual lcd!
i managed to get the digitizer off and ripped the cable that goes from digitizer to whatever reads our fingers on the screen, took it all off, placed the new one directly ontop and fed the wire exactly how it was for the first screen.
Put it all together again
Now I did mess up my screen badly, but in a good way! .. i now have full touchscreen working (smoother than ever) but my LCD display is near enough gone, so it looks like the screens really really dark, and i have to tilt it at certain angles to see the screen..
After all of this i now have a touch hd i can controll from my pc (using mymobiler) so i can recieve calls, send texts all from my pc when connected thru active sync, can even play teeter ... but not really the same!
I wouldnt recomend anyone to try what i did, although i think its worth the risk as I would have to replace the lcd anyways if i wanted a new screen in the first place... and who knows you might be able to peel the digitizer off clean (NEVER EVER EVER TOUCH LCD WITH ANYTHING!!!).
It all cost me around 10-15£ for the digitizer and screwdrivers and alot of hours dismantling phone compared to 50-100£ for a new lcd.
I am either going to get a new lcd now so i can actually see the screen, or get a new phone.
Sorry for the essay but hopefully this helps someone in any similar situation
if i do get a new lcd will post how it goes and if it sorts out everything
if anyone knows of any other reasons why my lcd would be so dim (brightness is 100%) accept for me getting carried away with it ... help would be appreciated

the_cool said:
I just posted something like this a few days ago, pulled my phone out and screen wouldnt respond, had these marks all over my screen, "swirly marks" as i describe it, very well could be the oily marks you are talking about. you can move them around with your finger right?
anyway, i took my sim out, tryna find a spare phone, couple hours later the marks were gone and screen started working again, touch wood its been fine since.
no idea what happened, but try letting it air out or something
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Yeah swirly oil marks is how myne started ... i think i finished off the screen by trying to press hard on the mark to try and clear it .. . so be careful with it.. but think that overall the screen had seen better days (course only a few weeks after warrenty finishes) ... all conections inside were ok aswell

doczyus said:
Dear All,
I have similar problem. Usuallí I use on my HD NRG ROM. About 3 weeks ago I updated to the latest NRG WM 6.5 23xxx ROM with Sense 2.5 Maxmanila version, and since this upgrade the touch screen position moving randomized up or down from 2 mm to 30mm!!! After this ROM I tryed updating each newer version, but not changed nothing. I need realign the screen about 10 times / day!!! The phone I never dropped or cracked.
Can help me somebody what happened with my HD?
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Same here. Touch screen not working. Phone never flashed, droped,...
Any solution?

unfortunately, a friend of mine changed the touchscreen without success. Phone was in perfect state, no drop, no flash. Just the touch not responding. I'm not sure that changing whole part lcd+digitizer solve the problem.

Hi all!
I've got similar problem with my touch HD. It's stock since I bought it. My touch sense was acting weird, like it wasn't properly calibrated. Like, when I press 7 on phone pad, the phone actually presses 1, and if I press 0, phone presses 5 and so on..
I've tried to align the screen, but it doesn't get aligned the first time. I have to repeat the process about 4 times before it gets aligned. That's good for about few minutes and the problem is back. Hard reset was also done, 2 times.
Could this be a fixed with a software update? Does this mean that digitizer will soon be dead?
Thank you for your help
Regards

igothtc2 said:
Hi all!
I've got similar problem with my touch HD. It's stock since I bought it. My touch sense was acting weird, like it wasn't properly calibrated. Like, when I press 7 on phone pad, the phone actually presses 1, and if I press 0, phone presses 5 and so on..
I've tried to align the screen, but it doesn't get aligned the first time. I have to repeat the process about 4 times before it gets aligned. That's good for about few minutes and the problem is back. Hard reset was also done, 2 times.
Could this be a fixed with a software update? Does this mean that digitizer will soon be dead?
Thank you for your help
Regards
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use ScreenCal to fix it, hopefully it can help you

Hakim Rahman said:
use ScreenCal to fix it, hopefully it can help you
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Hi!
I've successfuly installed the cab file on my phone's sd card, but the problem is still there. I don't know where the installed files are, do I have to run this application?
Thank you for your help!
Regards

igothtc2 said:
Hi!
I've successfuly installed the cab file on my phone's sd card, but the problem is still there. I don't know where the installed files are, do I have to run this application?
Thank you for your help!
Regards
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have you hard reset the device after installing the cab file ?? if not do it and see if there are changes...

Hakim Rahman said:
have you hard reset the device after installing the cab file ?? if not do it and see if there are changes...
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Just did the hard reset. When it asked me to align the screen, I just couldn't align the top left corner. I had to press it like 50 times before cross went to the lower corner. Otherwise, after the align it's good for about couple of seconds and then it's just pressing all over.
I thought I had just some software issues because the screen wasn't dead, it responded to my touch. So, I'll probably have to buy a new screen and digitizer, right? Or do you have any other ideas?
Thank you again for your help!
Regards

firstly screencal installs calibration settings not for blackstone so do not install it, no point. (btw it also increases device touch sensitivity)
secondly you guys should try and install the calibration settings for blackstone, basicly what the align screen does, not sure where to find them for download but i could post the registrys if someone wants to make a .cab from them. (atm i cba making the .cab but i am able to do it )
if the calibration settings do not work i think it is best to buy a new lcd package (or buy new device and give me old one for spares oj)
Rn

hi buddy ! What you mean GSensorCalibrator ??

i didnt mention anything about gsensor calibration dude.
tried and tested screencal the other week and it screwed my blackstone.
install these instead:
*screen calibration, sets the blackstone touch points: (aligning the screen)
if you install a cab with these registrys it should fix the alignment problem.
(if it doesnt then its hardware issue = lcd etc)
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\TOUCH]
"MaxCalError"=dword:8
"CalibrationData"="511,542 183,881 183,198 834,197 833,880"
*this one will maximise the touch sensitivity for those that want it:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\TouchPanel]
"PressureThreshold"=dword:0
Rn

Does anyone have a recommendation where you can buy a digitizer and lcd from?