Look at picture n°3. I think that the gap problem is explained...
exHERO n°1
exHERO n°2
exHERO n°3
Your mad
What's the GAP problem?
How does it explain the gap problem?
Not for me, for people that don't get it, I know, obviously...
Fantastic mate, was just about to do this myself. Could you post a brief guide? How easy is it to get to the screen?
alpha242 said:
Look at picture n°3. I think that the gap problem is explained...
exHERO n°1
exHERO n°2
exHERO n°3
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Can you please remove the protective shielding too? I want to see what HTC hides under them...
I was expecting to see LOTS of cramped together electronic components but that seems to be well spread out?
Nice high quality pictures. could you maybe make a guide how to disamble the hero? it will be nice
hope you had a spare 500 quid rather than doing this on a contact phone
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hope you had a spare 500 quid rather than doing this on a contact phone
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Or a Torx driver to just put it back together.
so if i'm interpreting the picture right, the gap which quite alot of us are seeing, is irrelevant really as any dust ingress can't actually get onto the screen due to the seal which the foam forms on the outer case...?
I guess that the screen gap is almost inevitable due to the cut in the seal
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no mate the gap in the screen is further down between the actual touch screen and the outer casing not where you have circled. The gap is to the left where the rubber seal bit is and the part of the ribbon cable you can see is where it actually connects to the touch screen.
Madness but crazy-awsome!
Hi, just got mine today Had a brief luck n there seems to be security stickers n the like all over this guy!
Normally I'd join straight in but gona give this one a miss for a while I think
All the best! (and good luck)
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no mate the gap in the screen is further down between the actual touch screen and the outer casing not where you have circled. The gap is to the left where the rubber seal bit is and the part of the ribbon cable you can see is where it actually connects to the touch screen.
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I'm pretty sure that IS what he circled. If you look at the screen itself, you can see the padding that would be at the top, just below the rubber seal area.
slyydrr said:
I'm pretty sure that IS what he circled. If you look at the screen itself, you can see the padding that would be at the top, just below the rubber seal area.
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No its around the edge of the touch screen so its where the touch screen sits in the frame you can't even see any of that foam when the phone is assembled. You can see the rubber seal on the outer casing on that 3rd picture just compare it to what you can see on your phone.
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No its around the edge of the touch screen so its where the touch screen sits in the frame you can't even see any of that foam when the phone is assembled. You can see the rubber seal on the outer casing on that 3rd picture just compare it to what you can see on your phone.
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If that were the case, and the area circled was not the part where the rubber seal was, then the rubber seal would be approximately 3/4" below the top of the phone, rather than 3/8" of an inch (approximation). You can see where the speaker is on the white plastic case, and by looking at the outside of the phone, the rubber seal is literally JUST below that. For the rubber seal to be where the clear screen is wouldn't work proportionately.
Similarities to Blackstone like cam etc.
But disassembling seems to be much easier than Blackstone.
Hope we'll get much more spare parts compared to Blackstone.
Related
HTC Blackstone Service Manual now available:
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Mike
cool thanks mate
Woo !
Many thanks
thanks! useful!
Good News...thanks
Thanks Mike
Thanks, mikechannon
I am not a very techi person, could someone predict for me how difficult would it be to repalce a dented metal frame
Great!
thanks very much! you are so fast!!
hykhleif said:
I am not a very techi person, could someone predict for me how difficult would it be to repalce a dented metal frame
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Looking at the service manual, the screen and bezel can not be seperated, so i guess it is gonna be expensive i.e if you want to replace the bezel you will also get a new screen.
Suggest people ensure their phone is covered by insurance!
so do you think its easy to replace the screen and metal frame?
I am really considering to buy a dummy htc hd but before I do I just want make sure that if it is easy to do by myself
hykhleif said:
so do you think its easy to replace the screen and metal frame?
I am really considering to buy a dummy htc hd but before I do I just want make sure that if it is easy to do by myself
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A dummy htc hd will probably not have a real screen and looking at the service manual, there appears to be no option to detach the screen from the bezel, however this comment is just based on observation and hopefully someone that has taken one apart can confirm.
I saw a discussion on the forum somewhere that the cost of a new screen was almost half the cost of the touch HD itself due to the fact that the bezel had to be replaced at the same time.
Thanks for the manual...
So... can anyone confirm the N. America frequencies that are listed in the manual on page 5?? Does this de-bunk the HTC twitter message??
Thanks for share!
Thanks at lot
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A dummy htc hd will probably not have a real screen and looking at the service manual, there appears to be no option to detach the screen from the bezel, however this comment is just based on observation and hopefully someone that has taken one apart can confirm.
I saw a discussion on the forum somewhere that the cost of a new screen was almost half the cost of the touch HD itself due to the fact that the bezel had to be replaced at the same time.
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I managed to detach the screen from the bezel, but it really was a hard peace of work. You have to stick a thin peace of plastic between the screen an the bezel and lever the display. You should be very careful due to the lcd display and the digitizer are glued together and you might get between the digitizer and the display and destroy it that way. The other thing you should'nt do is lervering the display on the bottom (where the usb connector is) due to the flatcable is located there and you will destroy it with the plastic tool.
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I did replace the display from my TC very easily but on the HD I had hugh problems.
Did you manage to remov ethe antenna cover like in the manual? I don't seem to be able to remove it.
I ran over my phone with the car and I want to dismantle it to check what parts are broken.
tinutac said:
Did you manage to remov ethe antenna cover like in the manual? I don't seem to be able to remove it.
I ran over my phone with the car and I want to dismantle it to check what parts are broken.
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Yes I did without destroying it, but I needed special tools. I used a very thin peace of metal. On page 20 from the dissembling manuel you can see the two square holes where the antenna cover is attached to the body.
Just go on and try it but be careful not to brake the little plastic clamps.
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Cheers mate. I'll have a look
Thanks mikechannon
Hi, in the home button of my galaxy s2 i can see some scratches, here a phone, is worst than in the photo.
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You do know there's a plastic covering ontop of your button right?
i suppose that, but i can´t remove the plastic, but is normal that scratches?
I've seen in some stores some gel or something that you can spread on scratches and they will disappear (I'm not 100% sure as I haven't never bought any)
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neto333 said:
i suppose that, but i can´t remove the plastic, but is normal that scratches?
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As krazykat said, the phone ships from the factory with a thin rectangular plastic film that is stuck on top of the home button. This film is simply one of the many protective films/coverings that are on a brand new phone, to protect it during shipping and unboxing. This film is removable - it's conceivable the scratch you're seeing is on that plastic film instead of the button itself. The film is hard to see, but if you look carefully with a bright light shining on it, you will see it. You can remove it by scraping with the edge of a credit card.
Relax your phone is going to get some scratches. It's just a fact of life. I've had mine in a gel case and screen protector since day one, unfortunately that didn't protect the camera lens (only exposed area besides home button) from a small scratch .
Also if the smal piece of plastic is still on eventually it'll lift up on its own and you'll be able to take it off.
Thank you, DreadPirateDan i think you are right , so if i remove the plastic from the home button the home bottom can get some scratches? the home button is made of the same material as the screen, gorilla glass? someone has the home bottom with scratches with out the plastic?
Because my home bottom look really bad, you can feel the scratches with your nails.
I get pretty excited with all the hype of gorilla glass being scratch proof but let me tell you it certainly is not scratch proof. Slighty more resistant at best says I.
My last phone would fall face first onto pebbles and come out un scratched, yet being inside my pocket with lethal for the screen. Who would have thought soft cotton would be gorilla glass' Achillies heel? lol.
So best advice from me is to just leave the plastic there as long as it's willing to stay/as long as you can tolerate it's ugliness. Then when you've had enough you'll peel back to a crisp fresh menu button
The screen is resistant to falls but not scratches. Therefore, it is recommended to put a protective plastic on the screen ASAP! As always the enemy of all screens is the dust, keys and any sharp object.
About, the HOME button, it is normal to be scratch fast because it's plastic, what I did was cut a plastic/tranparent sticker covering inside the edges of the home button and no scratches inside of it!
That's why ya go with white versions. Surface scratches and finger prints don't show nearly as bad.
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If it bugs you, just buy the button on ebay.
I bought one for like 5 bucks after shipping and have no use for it LOL
I was wondering if the button had a really dark chrome or if it was just my phone (I thought the chrome was supposed to be like a polished bright chrome like in pics) and after receiving this button and seeing my friend's S2, my phone is normal lol
Le power button:
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Part of le camera button:
The touch grid:
Pixels!
Screen off:
Speaker's waterproof mesh.
Magnetic charging port:
Headphone jack:
Gap between display glass and body.
Micro SD flap text?
Dat rear camera:
Zee LED Flash:
Front camera:
I immediately looked at my phone's bottom mic hole to look for debris.
Excellent photos. Thanks.
Thing is filthy, clean that damn thing ...
I won't eat spaghetti after watch these picture......
NRG1975 said:
Thing is filthy, clean that damn thing ...
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It looked pretty clean with the naked eye
The thing is that everything looks filthy under a microscope
That's awesome, thanks for sharing
Lol, pretty awesome (and disturbing ) pics!
I love how the cameras actually look like an eye to me
It is pretty cool, the center being so black that you just cannot see anything in it despite 8 super bright LED's
Very cool images. Was interesting to see from the perspective that the phone is waterproof and what they did to the material/design to make it so.
That freaking gap between the glass and body...
I just sent mine back because of it, hoping it was a fault and that the replacement will be better.
withoutwings said:
That freaking gap between the glass and body...
I just sent mine back because of it, hoping it was a fault and that the replacement will be better.
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That is actually the normal gap. The gaps are very small in reality and they are even on all sides of my phone, but look very large with the 200x magnification...
Some units do have an excessively large large gap either top or bottom, but that's not the case for mine.
degraaff said:
That is actually the normal gap. The gaps are very small in reality and they are even on all sides of my phone, but look very large with the 200x magnification...
Some units do have an excessively large large gap either top or bottom, but that's not the case for mine.
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Mine was worst around the corners, and one edge was worse than the other... so a bit uneven I guess. What annoyed me the most was the ease at which dust would settle in it.
Well, that gives me hope for at least some improvement!
withoutwings said:
Mine was worst around the corners, and one edge was worse than the other... so a bit uneven I guess. What annoyed me the most was the ease at which dust would settle in it.
Well, that gives me hope for at least some improvement!
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Mine has slightly larger gaps at some corners as well. I just have the impression that the outer parts on Sony's newer phones and tablets are fitted less tightly than their older devices. I do know they intentionally need to leave some gap, because removing the glass is the only way to get to the internals with these new unibody devices.
That may be a reason why the glass eventually breaks easier than on other devices though. Damage to the edges is very critical for hardened glass.
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Mine has slightly larger gaps at some corners as well. I just have the impression that the outer parts on Sony's newer phones and tablets are fitted less tightly than their older devices. I do know they intentionally need to leave some gap, because removing the glass is the only way to get to the internals with these new unibody devices.
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Couldn't they just prise the plastic corner edging off to get to it? On my Z1C there is almost no gap between the glass and that edging, so I find it hard to believe it's necessary now. No, it looks like loose manufacturing/quality controls to me, especially when the severity of it varies between devices...
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Couldn't they just prise the plastic corner edging off to get to it? On my Z1C there is almost no gap between the glass and that edging, so I find it hard to believe it's necessary now. No, it looks like loose manufacturing/quality controls to me, especially when the severity of it varies between devices...
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It doesn't look like it's possible to remove the corners, you can't feel any separation between the corners and the sides, it's as if it's melted together or something.
By the way, the nylon corners don't sit directly against the glass, there is still the plastic rim front and back that goes all around the glass.
I can't see the pics anymore
Going back to the gaps, my top gap is annoying large is filling with sand and dust (pocket crud). Anyone have any pointers to removing this?
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I will try to find an alternative to host the pictures, this thread made my photo bucket bandwidth usage skyrocket from 0 to exceeding 10 GB in a day, LOL.
Pictures are visible again.
Still can't believe what happened to my Z5!
I accidentally dropped my phone a minute ago from the 4th floor and it felt straight to the concrete. I thought my phone would have been dead and totally destroyed due to this massive drop.
When i picked it up the screen was entirely cracked with a big impact in the bottom left corner but surprisly it just smashed my 0.3mm tampered glass screen protection!
It bend as well the phone in the middle by the power button without damaging the back and front panel!
And I only had a slim rubber case to protect it!
I guess i've been very lucky but still i can say this phone is really solid and well made. :thumbup:
I linked some photos of my tempered glass protection and case. (I can't take pics from the phone but i can see that the metal on the edge by the power button is still a little twisted so i guess my phone isn't watterproof any more..)
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Can you tell us what brand case and screen protection you are using?
PELLET Nolwenn said:
Still can't believe what happened to my Z5!
I accidentally dropped my phone a minute ago from the 4th floor and it felt straight to the concrete. I thought my phone would have been dead and totally destroyed due to this massive drop.
When i picked it up the screen was entirely cracked with a big impact in the bottom left corner but surprisly it just smashed my 0.3mm tampered glass screen protection!
It bend as well the phone in the middle by the power button without damaging the back and front panel!
And I only had a slim rubber case to protect it!
I guess i've been very lucky but still i can say this phone is really solid and well made. :thumbup:
I linked some photos of my tempered glass protection and case. (I can't take pics from the phone but i can see that the metal on the edge by the power button is still a little twisted so i guess my phone isn't watterproof any more..)
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For the screen protection:
http://www.amazon.fr/dp/B015WO6VJW/ref=pe_386181_40444391_TE_item
And the case:
http://www.amazon.fr/dp/B014P2OTL4/ref=pe_386181_40444391_TE_item
Haha - that TPU case is great !
7 € and totally worth it
I got a similar combination but from spigen and at a much higher price
Hm, didn't know that the glas protector costs almost only a third in France and UK compared to German Amazon
@PELLET Nolwenn
but wheres the picture of the phone ?
i want to throw mine too ! err drop, umm , err smash actually... xD
I have the same bumper and screen protector.
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Can't take any because i've no other camera..
But onestly my phone was properly bent in the middle! Very scary!
I've seen a video few weeks ago from someone doing the bend test on it and it did finished exactly as mine and without any big damage. Just the metal frame which doesn't fit perfectly where the power button is.
Here is the video (it's a Z5 premium actually but it doesn't really change compare to mine^^)
https://youtu.be/gVPa8sNY1Xw
Quite impressed by the screen and the back panel strength, they bend but don't break.
But the metal frame seems very fragile don't you think?
Using mirror to take selfie of your phone
As you can see in the pictures. There are holo effect in my phone glass protector..I apply it 6 hours ago. Should i w8 some hours to go it away? Or should i try olive oil+Cotton Bud trick before some dust go in that area?
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I suggest the latter option but just keep in mind that sometimes it wont work as it depends on the quality of your tempered glass. Some bad ones leave those forever.
Get replacement. There's no way to seal by itself.
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Those are the same protectors I got and I only had some very mild amounts of this around the edges, most of which I was able to smooth out. There's just a tiny (1mm) spot that remained and it doesn't bother me. I followed the video instructions they reference rather than their printed ones and I think it made the difference.
sagor1 said:
As you can see in the pictures. There are holo effect in my phone glass protector..I apply it 6 hours ago. Should i w8 some hours to go it away? Or should i try olive oil+Cotton Bud trick before some dust go in that area?
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Screen was not completely clean or protector defective.
The screen on an LG G6 is flat.
You should never see that.
tech_head said:
Screen was not completely clean or protector defective.
The screen on an LG G6 is flat.
You should never see that.
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I post this problem on reddit.
A guy from there told me there was a dust in that area.So he suggest me to lift that part and clean it with dust sticker.
But only lift+clean that area causes more dust+sticker glue on there.
So i open it up fully & reinstall the glass.
But those holo effect is there.
Did you reinstall the old one, or put on a new one? If you reinstalled the old one, the dust is going to stick to it and there's no way to really get it off. You need a brand new one.
If you installed a new one, one of two things is going on. Either you are not cleaning the screen as well as you think (maybe you have some really stuck small particle there), or you are getting something under the edges when you install it.
To help with the first, you might want to use a magnifier with a light to check. Make sure to use the dust remover stickers. It may help to apply in a humid bathroom (run the shower for a while if needed) to keep the floating dust down.
To help with the second, make sure you are not holding the protector with your fingers AT ALL after removing the plastic from the adhesive side. You should have guide stickers attached to the top side (the surface you will be touching once it's applied), sticking out over the edges, which you hold on to. Don't try to hold the protector by the edges with your fingers. If you make a hinge with the stickers like they show you in the video, it's pretty easy to line it up and you don't have to touch it at all.
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Did you reinstall the old one, or put on a new one? If you reinstalled the old one, the dust is going to stick to it and there's no way to really get it off. You need a brand new one.
If you installed a new one, one of two things is going on. Either you are not cleaning the screen as well as you think (maybe you have some really stuck small particle there), or you are getting something under the edges when you install it.
To help with the first, you might want to use a magnifier with a light to check. Make sure to use the dust remover stickers. It may help to apply in a humid bathroom (run the shower for a while if needed) to keep the floating dust down.
To help with the second, make sure you are not holding the protector with your fingers AT ALL after removing the plastic from the adhesive side. You should have guide stickers attached to the top side (the surface you will be touching once it's applied), sticking out over the edges, which you hold on to. Don't try to hold the protector by the edges with your fingers. If you make a hinge with the stickers like they show you in the video, it's pretty easy to line it up and you don't have to touch it at all.
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I followed this one
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