HTC Blackstone Service Manual now available:
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Mike
cool thanks mate
Woo !
Many thanks
thanks! useful!
Good News...thanks
Thanks Mike
Thanks, mikechannon
I am not a very techi person, could someone predict for me how difficult would it be to repalce a dented metal frame
Great!
thanks very much! you are so fast!!
hykhleif said:
I am not a very techi person, could someone predict for me how difficult would it be to repalce a dented metal frame
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Looking at the service manual, the screen and bezel can not be seperated, so i guess it is gonna be expensive i.e if you want to replace the bezel you will also get a new screen.
Suggest people ensure their phone is covered by insurance!
so do you think its easy to replace the screen and metal frame?
I am really considering to buy a dummy htc hd but before I do I just want make sure that if it is easy to do by myself
hykhleif said:
so do you think its easy to replace the screen and metal frame?
I am really considering to buy a dummy htc hd but before I do I just want make sure that if it is easy to do by myself
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A dummy htc hd will probably not have a real screen and looking at the service manual, there appears to be no option to detach the screen from the bezel, however this comment is just based on observation and hopefully someone that has taken one apart can confirm.
I saw a discussion on the forum somewhere that the cost of a new screen was almost half the cost of the touch HD itself due to the fact that the bezel had to be replaced at the same time.
Thanks for the manual...
So... can anyone confirm the N. America frequencies that are listed in the manual on page 5?? Does this de-bunk the HTC twitter message??
Thanks for share!
Thanks at lot
ardsar said:
A dummy htc hd will probably not have a real screen and looking at the service manual, there appears to be no option to detach the screen from the bezel, however this comment is just based on observation and hopefully someone that has taken one apart can confirm.
I saw a discussion on the forum somewhere that the cost of a new screen was almost half the cost of the touch HD itself due to the fact that the bezel had to be replaced at the same time.
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I managed to detach the screen from the bezel, but it really was a hard peace of work. You have to stick a thin peace of plastic between the screen an the bezel and lever the display. You should be very careful due to the lcd display and the digitizer are glued together and you might get between the digitizer and the display and destroy it that way. The other thing you should'nt do is lervering the display on the bottom (where the usb connector is) due to the flatcable is located there and you will destroy it with the plastic tool.
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http://mikechannon.net/PDF Manuals/HTC_Blackstone_Service_Manual.pdf
I did replace the display from my TC very easily but on the HD I had hugh problems.
Did you manage to remov ethe antenna cover like in the manual? I don't seem to be able to remove it.
I ran over my phone with the car and I want to dismantle it to check what parts are broken.
tinutac said:
Did you manage to remov ethe antenna cover like in the manual? I don't seem to be able to remove it.
I ran over my phone with the car and I want to dismantle it to check what parts are broken.
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Yes I did without destroying it, but I needed special tools. I used a very thin peace of metal. On page 20 from the dissembling manuel you can see the two square holes where the antenna cover is attached to the body.
Just go on and try it but be careful not to brake the little plastic clamps.
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Cheers mate. I'll have a look
Thanks mikechannon
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Hi,
the keyboard transparent upper part is being scratched. I don't know if it depends on the contact with the ppc body when it comes in contact with keyboard, but as this transparent stripe has been made with some like plastic - pexyglass material, I supposed it would be easy for it being scratched. Any suggestion to remove scratches? I know it should exist some specific product usually used to repair cellular display scratched, but really I don't know if I have to try to use it...
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Hi,
the keyboard transparent upper part is being scratched. I don't know if it depends on the contact with the ppc body when it comes in contact with keyboard, but as this transparent stripe has been made with some like plastic - pexyglass material, I supposed it would be easy for it being scratched. Any suggestion to remove scratches? I know it should exist some specific product usually used to repair cellular display scratched, but really I don't know if I have to try to use it...
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Yep same problem here and most likely with everyone who uses the keyboard.
Removing the scratches IMHO is a waste of time as they will reoccur in due time, unless you remove them and then buy and apply some cheap screen protector material to apply to the plastic to prevent it being scratched again.
Even the main unit suffers from scratches due to the poor design of the keyboard/unit fit.
Thanx for your replay,
when you say even the main unit suffers from scratches due to the poor design of the keyboard/unit fit, you mean the metal body or display?
In your opinion the product above could eliminate scrtaches or it's a waste of time?
asci said:
Thanx for your replay,
when you say even the main unit suffers from scratches due to the poor design of the keyboard/unit fit, you mean the metal body or display?
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The metal body. If it hasn't happened to you yet, you may be able to prevent it by doing a bit of DIY. Look for scratches on the inside lip of the casing (near the screen) by the Vue Flko button. Apparently the keyboard connectors have 2 little protruding black plastic bits that scratch that part of the unit over time.
Don't know if filing it down is a good idea though.
eheh sorry but what is DIY? A kind of woodoo rite to avoid it?
asci said:
eheh sorry but what is DIY? A kind of woodoo rite to avoid it?
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DIY = Do it yourself
ahaha ok my english is not that good but with acronyms it's worse...
However I dont' think to do nothing like that, I only would like to try the product to repair scratches...what do you think about it? Could it work?
asci said:
ahaha ok my english is not that good but with acronyms it's worse...
However I dont' think to do nothing like that, I only would like to try the product to repair scratches...what do you think about it? Could it work?
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Never tried anything like it before, so can't really say. sorry.
asci said:
ahaha ok my english is not that good but with acronyms it's worse...
However I dont' think to do nothing like that, I only would like to try the product to repair scratches...what do you think about it? Could it work?
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i think it's worth the try anyway, you got nothing to lose, it won't make it worse for sure.
Just to inform you that product usually used to repair cellular display scratched...WORKS!!!
I went to a shop in Hong Kong last night and they helped me to covered the keyboard with a 3M transparent protector, I asked them to cover the two "pointly stick" near the connectors and hope it will help to solve the scratch near the "vlo" button. It costs around US10 for the protector.
please can you link me this 3M product?
Full body protection for Athena...
Maybe this will help you guys. It's supposed to cover the device almost entirely.
http://www.mobile-gadgets.net/mgc/home.php?page=invisibleShield
http://www.shieldzone.com/item_description/HTCX7500.html
Hope this helps. I may order one over the weekend.
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Maybe this will help you guys. It's supposed to cover the device almost entirely.
http://www.mobile-gadgets.net/mgc/home.php?page=invisibleShield
http://www.shieldzone.com/item_description/HTCX7500.html
Hope this helps. I may order one over the weekend.
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I ordered one the other day - will let you know how I get on. There are also photos of this in place elsewhere on the forum
so my touch matrix cracked, got a replacement on ebay that looks perfect. i got it to work but everytime a do, a few days later it stops working until i fix it again. i can't seem to figure out how the flexible PCB connects to the back of the LCD module. it looks like HTC just puts a piece of tape over it.
however, i noticed when taking off the old LCD touch matrix that there was some sort of possibly conductive adhesive that made it very difficult to pull off. i got it off but one of the contacts got stuck on there and it i had to scrape it off with a scalpel.
see picture below for exact details. if anyone has any experience in doing this and getting it to work, please let me know, it's so frustrating not having touch on this phone.
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I think you might need to have that professionally repaired. I used to refurbish phones for Motorola but I've never taken anything this advanced apart before. It sounds like you shouldn't have scraped off that conductive adhesive. The digitizer you bought should have been a relatively simple installation but you should have taken your time peeling off the old cracked digitizer. That adhesive is pretty strong and thats why they use it.
You might want to look into getting your hands on some of that adhesive and just replace it all. Sometimes the oils from your skin from handling such a sensitive ribbon cable could have damaged it as well.
P.S. Unfortunately, most of the people here are software genius's, not hardware experts unfortunately.
it's not too advanced. i figure if they at least offer the part as a replacement option on ebay it can't be too hard. and in the mass view, it's only 4 contacts and relatively easy to replace if you have a minor knowledge of electronics.
i keep taping it down firmly and even putting extra tape on top so that the pressure of the case will press down on the pcb to have a firmer connection.
note: i was very careful to observe ESD precautions, so that isn't it, plus there's no semiconductors that could be damaged in the touch matrix.
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it's not too advanced. i figure if they at least offer the part as a replacement option on ebay it can't be too hard. and in the mass view, it's only 4 contacts and relatively easy to replace if you have a minor knowledge of electronics.
i keep taping it down firmly and even putting extra tape on top so that the pressure of the case will press down on the pcb to have a firmer connection.
note: i was very careful to observe ESD precautions, so that isn't it, plus there's no semiconductors that could be damaged in the touch matrix.
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Hmm... have you tried good old fashion superglue? I mean not neccesarily putting it on the end of the cable where the conductors are, but on the cable right near the conductors to keep it from moving around and then placing a few strips of tape to sandwich the cable with the housing pressing it down tight?
yes i have but i fear what happens if when pressing it down if it gets on the pads, then i'm just totally screwed. it's a tough situation, i wish there was a contact at HTC that could tell me how it's done.
i'm going to also try contacting their support/repair office and see if they can provide any insight.
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yes i have but i fear what happens if when pressing it down if it gets on the pads, then i'm just totally screwed. it's a tough situation, i wish there was a contact at HTC that could tell me how it's done.
i'm going to also try contacting their support/repair office and see if they can provide any insight.
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The superglue option is very risky but it could save your @$$ if you only put very little on the ribbon and then hold it in place untill it dries and then press down once the glue is already dry.
On another note, contacting their support office would probably be your best bet.
Everything you have done, even though not done wrong, it a far greater risk than I would have ever taken... I would have sent it in to be repaired of the digitizer had a crack in it or or the dot matrix got scratched. But thats me.
Unfortunately there aren't too many technicians here on this forum since it is almost completely firmware and not hardware here... Then again, there might be a few. Where I live it's kinda late at night so maybe they're sleeping or something. Lol.
i'm neither a hardware nor a software expertm but i may be able to help... i saw the manual somewhere... www.mdatweak.com/downloads/Wizard_Service_Manual.pdf... try that... maybe it'll help you...
Look at picture n°3. I think that the gap problem is explained...
exHERO n°1
exHERO n°2
exHERO n°3
Your mad
What's the GAP problem?
How does it explain the gap problem?
Not for me, for people that don't get it, I know, obviously...
Fantastic mate, was just about to do this myself. Could you post a brief guide? How easy is it to get to the screen?
alpha242 said:
Look at picture n°3. I think that the gap problem is explained...
exHERO n°1
exHERO n°2
exHERO n°3
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Can you please remove the protective shielding too? I want to see what HTC hides under them...
I was expecting to see LOTS of cramped together electronic components but that seems to be well spread out?
Nice high quality pictures. could you maybe make a guide how to disamble the hero? it will be nice
hope you had a spare 500 quid rather than doing this on a contact phone
C45hY said:
hope you had a spare 500 quid rather than doing this on a contact phone
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Or a Torx driver to just put it back together.
so if i'm interpreting the picture right, the gap which quite alot of us are seeing, is irrelevant really as any dust ingress can't actually get onto the screen due to the seal which the foam forms on the outer case...?
I guess that the screen gap is almost inevitable due to the cut in the seal
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no mate the gap in the screen is further down between the actual touch screen and the outer casing not where you have circled. The gap is to the left where the rubber seal bit is and the part of the ribbon cable you can see is where it actually connects to the touch screen.
Madness but crazy-awsome!
Hi, just got mine today Had a brief luck n there seems to be security stickers n the like all over this guy!
Normally I'd join straight in but gona give this one a miss for a while I think
All the best! (and good luck)
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no mate the gap in the screen is further down between the actual touch screen and the outer casing not where you have circled. The gap is to the left where the rubber seal bit is and the part of the ribbon cable you can see is where it actually connects to the touch screen.
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I'm pretty sure that IS what he circled. If you look at the screen itself, you can see the padding that would be at the top, just below the rubber seal area.
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I'm pretty sure that IS what he circled. If you look at the screen itself, you can see the padding that would be at the top, just below the rubber seal area.
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No its around the edge of the touch screen so its where the touch screen sits in the frame you can't even see any of that foam when the phone is assembled. You can see the rubber seal on the outer casing on that 3rd picture just compare it to what you can see on your phone.
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No its around the edge of the touch screen so its where the touch screen sits in the frame you can't even see any of that foam when the phone is assembled. You can see the rubber seal on the outer casing on that 3rd picture just compare it to what you can see on your phone.
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If that were the case, and the area circled was not the part where the rubber seal was, then the rubber seal would be approximately 3/4" below the top of the phone, rather than 3/8" of an inch (approximation). You can see where the speaker is on the white plastic case, and by looking at the outside of the phone, the rubber seal is literally JUST below that. For the rubber seal to be where the clear screen is wouldn't work proportionately.
Similarities to Blackstone like cam etc.
But disassembling seems to be much easier than Blackstone.
Hope we'll get much more spare parts compared to Blackstone.
Today I broke my HD2 screen
Anyone knows if are outside guides to change the screen like hd2 official service guides and any shop that sell "cheap" (compared to official service) hd2 screens?
thanks for all
Sorry for your broken HD2...
May I ask, how did you manage to break it? I'm asking because it might give us a sense on how fragile these things are.
Sorry for your HD2.
Anyway, how you broke it?
WOW!How did you did that?
Sorry for your screen!
Maybe this could help --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405566
I use the phone as an alarm clock.
When sounded, I took it to shut it down and I dropped into bed. When going to pick it up accidentally leaned on the screen by making some pressure and I broke it
kersh said:
I use the phone as an alarm clock.
When sounded, I took it to shut it down and I dropped into bed. When going to pick it up accidentally leaned on the screen by making some pressure and I broke it
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Can you share picture with us?
Last night @ the Disco, my HD2 felt out of my hand Iw ould say 150cm above the ground, and it felt down a hard rock floor.
The back cover battery and phones were out, but no dmg thank god!
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Damn! I'm sure it shouldn't be too hard to replace, but if you don't think you can do it yourself better get someone else to do it! It will end up being cheaper than having to replace the whole phone
Hmmm . . .
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Damn! I'm sure it shouldn't be too hard to replace, but if you don't think you can do it yourself better get someone else to do it! It will end up being cheaper than having to replace the whole phone
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Doesnt the screen have some electronics embeded into it ?
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http://i49.tinypic.com/205a2...
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It (almost phisically) hurts to see this
Som30ne said:
Doesnt the screen have some electronics embeded into it ?
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With most phones the screen is separate from the main board and chipsets etc. As far as I am aware usually the screen will be screwed in but not embedded into it. Though I could be wrong!!..... Just hoping to give some optimism
The screen is replaceable. You're not so lucky, man
Well, seeing this image actually hurts directly to my heart!
Anyway, search on eBay, but I don't think that there is any replacement part as the phone is completely new.
I did the same just now, except it's not the actual glass that's broken but it looks like the screen underneath. That however is completely shot, again, anybody know if it's possible to replace this?
And for those interested, pictures.
Result after dropping from about chest hight on the ground.
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And for those interested, pictures.
Result after dropping from about chest hight on the ground.
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DAAAYYUUMm
Repost, sorry
Mine's back with the service repair centre in the UK for a cracked screen and have just had my quote for repair £118.
No one else seems to have the spares.
The screen itself and surround was quoted at £78 labour £22, and the rest is for delivery.
The service centre isn't the quickest it's taken them a week from receiving the phone to give me a quote and then it's 5 days after you pay for them to fix the phone and test the software.
Luckily the insurance is paying
i can't believe!!!!!
i cracked my screen too!!
it falls down from 50 centimeters and the glass cracked in 1000 pieces!! i'll post the picture soon.
tomorrow i'm going to call the italian call center ..
Ouch!
Got my HD2 yesterday, now it has a hairline crack in the screen about 1cm long - don't know how - it's only been in a jacket pocket and car cradle.
Screen too weak?
Edit: O2 shop said it's a scratch not a crack - so much for scratch resistant glass.
kersh said:
Today I broke my HD2 screen
Anyone knows if are outside guides to change the screen like hd2 official service guides and any shop that sell "cheap" (compared to official service) hd2 screens?
thanks for all
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this is really sad!
hi guys. so im sure im not the only one who has broken my epic all the way down, and i need some help. i ordered these ( http://cgi.ebay.com/80PCS-0603-Ultr...462?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb63073de ) and was going to attempt to mod my leds under the buttons. i got the whole phone apart down to here.(ill use someone elses pic because i didnt have my phone to take pics with the phone apart.)
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i got this far and also removed the ribbon of flex cable.
after that, i cant get the screen out ot the front housing. is there something im missing? when i use a pry tool to try to remove it like the rest of the parts, it creaks like its going to break. ive broken it down to study it before the lights get here just to have a grasp on what im doing. any one have any pointers? some one told me it may be glued in and i would need a hair dryer or something similar to remove it. any help you guys could share would be greazt! thanks!
http://www.globaldirectparts.com/Sp...Galaxy-S-SPH-D700-Take-Apar-p/taprtvdo029.htm
Ballsy man, a lot of phones have the screens glued. It's a stronger construction method and allows for the phone to be thinner.
http://www.youtube.com/user/zeetroninc#p/u/15/83XPLqxJhU0
Start about 4 mins in
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Start about 4 mins in
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That, and this one is particularly useful as well:
Sprint Samsung Epic 4G Galaxy S SPH-D700 Take Apart | Tear Down Video
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That, and this one is particularly useful as well:
Sprint Samsung Epic 4G Galaxy S SPH-D700 Take Apart | Tear Down Video
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That's the EXACT same video posted above. It does not however deal with the question at hand. The OP already has the phone to that point.
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That's the EXACT same video posted above. It does not however deal with the question at hand. The OP already has the phone to that point.
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My apologies. I don't generally follow every link in threads I read, unless I have some reason to. You will understand that the link as posted gave no hint as to what it was.
sorry, i was cooking pork chops. that video posted stops right before where im at...(i know because that is the video i used for reference to get as far as i did.)
they dont remove the screen or where the buttons are at.
its not that ballsy really. this phone only has about 12 screws and 3 cables. there arent even any security stickers or water indicators.
"Just curious, what happened with this.. Every lcd i've tried to get out, I've busted.. There's a pretty strong adhesive, holding a very fragile and flimsy display..
azyouthinkeyeiz said:
"Just curious, what happened with this.. Every lcd i've tried to get out, I've busted.. There's a pretty strong adhesive, holding a very fragile and flimsy display..
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I used finger nail polish remover to remove my screen. Apparently its just glued right along the outter boaders underneath.
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I always use denatured alcohol and a hair dryer.. I guess it was just my hands.
azyouthinkeyeiz said:
"Just curious, what happened with this.. Every lcd i've tried to get out, I've busted.. There's a pretty strong adhesive, holding a very fragile and flimsy display..
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i never got any farther. ive got a box of surface mount leds in 10 colors and nothing to do with them...
Its a double sided sticker holding the lcd to the front housing. I've replaced mine and had to reuse it. It went ok but I stretched it and the glue weakened.
Also the soft keys are glued to the lcd so remember to unplug that ribbon.
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