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High Tech Crap have once again surpassed themselves with the Wizard.
My stylus is held in by sticky tape and the paint flakes off, however even worse my good friend Alex's died a few days ago of its own accord. He thought maybe it had just run out of batteries so he plugged the charger in and within seconds it got so hot that it burned him and melted all the internal stickers off. god knows what would have happened if he'd left it.
Just a warning. Sounds like a lawsuit to me

Your issues seem atypical--I've been reading through this forum for a few months now and haven't come across a single one where somebody said their Wizard blew up/melted/what have you. Sorry you're having problems, but isn't that what a warranty is for?

Doubt the paint and stylus are covered by warranty, certainly not the paint as they know its just an issue full stop and would be replacing each and every unit constantly.

I disagree with your assessment. See here.

Well when your house burns down, don't say I didn't warn you
Doubt the paint and stylus are covered by warranty, certainly not the paint as they know its just an issue full stop and would be replacing each and every unit constantly.
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They should do. You'd think for the price these things would be built to the highest standard. They MUST know these things are issues when they start producing these. Either that or they did NO product testing. I don't understand how it passes EC quality control.
If you bought a car and the paint fell off you'd expect it sorting out. I bet the paint won't flake off the Sony Ericssion p990.
If each of us here wrote to HTC/Trading Standards/our service providers we could get a brand new handset each.
In fact, if I start a petition on here that just requires name and email address, and sent it to HTC, threatening to send it to trading standards, how many people do you think would sign it if it meant a free device for each of us?
Because TBH, I'm pretty sick of spending hundereds of pounds on HTC junk only to have it fall apart after 2 months EVERY TIME, not to mention the software issues. In fact, I'm pretty sure they're required by law to replace things like that.

mike freegan said:
Because TBH, I'm pretty sick of spending hundereds of pounds on HTC junk only to have it fall apart after 2 months EVERY TIME, not to mention the software issues. In fact, I'm pretty sure they're required by law to replace things like that.
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I am really sorry to hear about your issues. However, you must understand that the K-JAM is nowhere near the Casio E-200 as far as quality is concerned. I went through 3 E-200's and the product line was so bad, Casio eventually pulled it off the market and not soon later exited the PPC market altogether.
I am on many forums and have heard relatively few complaint other than the standard stylus-loose issue and maybe just a complaint here and there that the paint on the blue "E" for internet explorer came off. Considering that the Wizard comes from Imate, T-Mobile, 02, DoPod, etc it seems relatively few people have the same issues as you mention. Personally, I beleive either you treat your device harshly or you got one from a bad production batch. I have had my K-JAM for 8 months already, and aside from the stylus being loose nothing else is wrong with the device.
If you are that dissapointed, get on the phone with support and demand that you want a replacement unit. Tell them exactly what you complained about here that you didn't expect such an expensive device to peel and chip. See how that goes.

Please read properly.
My device is fine. I was talking about my friend's device. I assure you, I take excellent care of mine.
My point was that there should be safety mechanisms to prevent things getting so hot to the point that they melt and pose a fire risk, no matter how badly you treat it (which he didn't).
The only faults on mine are the loose stylus and the flaky paint -both known problems. My point is that for £400 you shouldn't have to put up with either. I mean, if you buy a cheap, low quality phone for £20 I bet the paint wouldn't flake off, so why do HTC who charge so extortionally for what should be quality products be forgiven for cutting corners and selling shoddy hardware?
Also, it's only because of the gurus on here like Vijay and Buzz that our devices work at all. We shouldn't have to rely on these guys working volentarily to try and patch up the bugs left in by HTC/Microsoft. It's not even like the odd bug; EVERY SINGLE ROM is full of serious errors that HTC know are there and affect even basic functions. I am grateful to buzz/vijay, but it sholdn't be their job to do it. They don't get paid to do it. For the price we pay, you should expect maybe the odd bug, but not some of the ridiculous and obvious errors that HTC sell these devices knowing about (talking more about the BlueAngel/Universal really, but alot of people report Wizard bugs too)
Also, saying a device by another manufacturer is worse does not justify making a sub-quality product. If the paint flaked off you car, I wouldn't try and defend it by saying that the wheels fell off mine so you should be happy. That's ridiculous. you paid alot of money for a product which you should expect a certain quality from.
I think if just a few hundered of us petitioned, threatening to involve trading standards, it might just give HTC a kick up the arse, show them that we won't just put up with this stuff because they can't be bothered fixing it and get them to put a little more effort into ensuring the hardware and software quality of their next device.
Viva la revolution

Sleuth255 said:
I disagree with your assessment. See here.
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That maybe so but it doesnt change the fact that the paint flakes off.
What would the conversation to support go like ?
Consumer " Hi I bought a device from you and the paint is flaking off. "
Support " Yes but the device will survive should it be dropped in water "
Consumer " Really ? "
Support " Yes. "
Consumer " I didnt realise. Sorry to have troubled you. "
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right.... I guess I deserved that....
I'm actually wondering if HTC actually makes all the various cases for these devices. Or, do they sell the basic insides as an OEM provider and the end seller provides the rest. This wouldn't apply to Qtek devices of course as these probably would be completely produced by HTC.
Case in point: I'm not aware of paint peeling or loose stylus issues on the 8125. Perhaps somebody can correct me here.

now this is funny!!! I have not had any problems with the phone yet. But i would sign if anyone started it. I will stand by my boys in arms hehehehe
but i do think there is a diffrence between a car and phone, that the phone takes alot from being in a pocket or something ( how about we all put car paint on our phones) and a car is made to withstand rain and so fore. But i do think that it should be abit better for the price.

mike freegan said:
Please read properly.
Also, saying a device by another manufacturer is worse does not justify making a sub-quality product. If the paint flaked off you car, I wouldn't try and defend it by saying that the wheels fell off mine so you should be happy. That's ridiculous. you paid alot of money for a product which you should expect a certain quality from.
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I seem to remember the old Citroen BX's cost a lot of money in their day and the paint flaked off... people still bought them though.... and they still worked... not to mention the fact the wheel could fall off and it would work too :lol:
seriously though. i agree that the paint flaking is a bit of an issue, and the stylus not seating properly is poor design. I do think however that fighting via a petition for them to replace our devices with equally as faulty devices is a waste of time. Example for this is my friend and I both have owend smart roadsters. they both slightly leaked as with nearly all cabriolets, but he moaned and demanded they fix it (i didnt!)... it went in for the supposed leak fix and came back worse than before and he had to reject the car (upsetting himself at the same time because he really loved that car for what it was). I just dont quite see why i would want to cut my own nose to spite my face right now

Cry me a river, this is what is known as the bleeding edge.
Look what you are holding in your hand, its a miniature PC with bluetooth, wifi, a phone with gprs/edge, a PDA with a full keyboard. This is an incredibly elegant device. Yes my stylus falls out but when I took it apart I was totaly impressed by the elegance of the design, flawed maybe but not the china crap I've seen. Also understand how the supply chain works. HTC contracts out with flex or foxcon or whomever which actually manufacture these, most all electronic mfg do this. So as a mfg you are dependent on the quality of your sub, yes you can and do police them but with a mobile workforce you are going to get quality issues. It's just the way the world works and as was said, that's what the warrenty is for unless of course you flashed a new rom or opened the case and voided it, then tough luck.

Well, I would agree with thompsd. I mean, HP and others have phones that work much stable, better and the paint doesn't flake off. So, why don't you just go ahead and buy yourself an HP Phone? I'm not sure about your reason, but I just can't affort an HP, and I don't really like the bulky HP (though their recent device looks promising, not sure about the price).
Hey, consider the HTC company is like.. how old? Oh man, give them some slack. I think they are pretty good in putting in so many things into such a small unit and if they aren't that good with their paint job, so be it. However, having said that, I'm still expecting them to be getting much better soon, inside out. Go ahead with your petition thing and good luck.
BTW, how does the 'easily scratched' iPod case ended?
Anyway, as for the fire thing, it is not an HTC issue only. The invincible Apple had laptop camp fire here and the mighty Dell had their contribution on the conference.
My advise is, don't leave any electronic stuff left unattented.

@ JNGold
First of all sorry for deviating from the true subject of this thread.
I am glad that you are happy with the build quality of your wizard. Since you have been using your device for 8 months I would like to know if the keyboard sliding mechanism is showing any signs of wear / looseness. I am interested in this because previously I owned the i-mate pda2k (HTC magician) and over few months of use the keyboard became quite loose to the point that it would slide open by its own weight if held vertically.
I am now considering going for the HTC TyTn once this is out. My only apprehension is the quality of the slide mechanism and your comments would be really helpful.
Thanks and Regards

Why do you repeat buy HTC if you're having such issues with their devices?

My point is, if HTC can do such an excellent job (and it is excellent) of getting so much technology into such a small space, and charge so much for their devices, why not just spend the extra 5 minutes to make sure the paint doesn't flake off? I don't understand why they think they can sell something which is faulty.
It's a device designed to be mobile and carried in a pocket (hence pocket pc/windows mobile). For £400 you are entitled to expect that the paint will be to a reasonable quality like EVERY other phone on the market.
I have just noticed that every HTC device has a whole host of small flaws that could be avoided so easily and at no extra cost, if they just thought about what they were doing. My friend has programmed for Windows Mobile and he tells me that they know its full of bugs and clashing scripts because of a lack of cummunication between departments, but they just release the software anyway, where an extra couple of days resolving the clashes between each application would solve the problem.
I mean, someone's worked really hard making all the hardware fit in the case which is the difficult part, but then not bothered designing or testing the stylus issue, something which is obviously gunna suffer from wear and tear.
I don't want a replacement device, but I just think that if we scare HTC/our service providers a bit with threats of trading standards, and show that alot of us are interested then it might make them spend the extra couple of weeks testing their next device and making sure it works well before they sell it.
I mean, the Sony Ericsson P990 does everything the wizard does, and more, but I bet they made sure the paint doesn't fall off and the stylus stays in. high functionality does not have to mean low quality.

Err... Can't speak for the p990 but the p800 I had suffered from peeling paint and stylus issues as well (cracking styluses, styluses that fell off) as well as a notorious keyboard design that actually worked until you put it in your pocket and broke the two tiny tabs that held the top of the keyboard away from the screen. So Sony-Ericsson isn't the acme of product perfection you hold them to be.
The only peeling paint I have had with my wizard has been the qtek label on the bottom. Which to me was no great loss.
To me the biggest issue with this phone has always been the software. Which honestly has improved dramatically since the 1.x firmware days.
I knew going in that the wizard had the potential to be a disaster of a phone hey lets see, an innovative package and feature set and new software from Microsoft is quite the triple threat for product mayhem but 9 months into it I have little to complain about.
That may all change tomorrow when the phone decides to self-whimilate or some such thing. but for now I'm content.

I'm a little curious...

Hi guys,
I'm just a little curious. I've been lurking over the Xperia for a very long time now (ever since it was announced). I've read that people are having cracks all over the phone, even from people who have had the phones for as long as 3 months.
Why do people still purchase the phone knowing that the problem exists? Why blindly fork over so much money?
Oh, and by no means am I a trying to start a war or anything, I'm just curious. I've really been wanting to get this phone for such a long time now, and I'm really rather disappointed that Xperia's build quality is just crap.
What are your thoughts?
Cheers.

dude, there is a thread started by me.
In tat i say taht i threw my phone in a fit of rage, and it bounced off the floor, and hit two walls before falling down again. and alas, the slider is loose, but i can get it fixed. Other than that, no cracks, no broken lcd, no nothing.
And by the way, mine is a 08w44, this is the production batch everyone's having trouble with. So if my phone can come out with flying colours outta the torture i put it thro, i would say the build quality is good overall.

well it depends on what "crap" for you means, for your standards for a phone. But generally I would say people look these into a phone but not limited to:
1. Feature
2. Design
3. Advantages
4. Price
as for me I bought the phone not knowing the crack until 2 days that the phone is already with me and I'm looking at this forum for apps and custom stuff. You may consider things that Xperia can upset you but by far, its still the king of the hill.
with a few disappointments though, I still love the phone, and starting to hate the service.

The ones having problems with the phone are the ones that complain.
That's normal.
The ones without problems have no need not complain.
So don't think that a thread where all the cracks unite is representative for the whole series. Even a fraction of users have these cracks. Of course, that's still too many, but there is no need to be afraid of buying this phone because of this issue. The chance to get of a faulty one is very low.

Only a couple of production batches were affected with this issue
I've had 3 xperias sofar and none of them had cracks
What's more: IMHO, even a cracked xperia would be better than an Iphone or anything else out there

gtrab said:
Only a couple of production batches were affected with this issue
I've had 3 xperias sofar and none of them had cracks
What's more: IMHO, even a cracked xperia would be better than an Iphone or anything else out there
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A cracked xperia X1 is a far better option than a cracked iphone 3g... (every batch of them seems to crack, same as their mac books)

Guys,
Thank you for your replies so far. I apologize, I guess I was wrong to be quick about assuming that a lot of Xperias have these problems. I still wish to get this phone, and have been bidding my time, hoping that the quality control will get better over time (perhaps HTC will change the materials or something).
Right now, I was wondering, are the cracks specific to colors (Black vs Silver)? Or are there issues on both colors anyway?
Also, which product batches are affected by this issue?
The problem is, if I purchase a gray market phone, say, from Amazon or something, and there is no warranty on it, and I do get a crack, how can I go about repairing the chasis?
Cheers.

Looking at the crack thread, it would seem that cracks were more common in the silver models.

throw mine on the floor yesterday and some1 accidently stepped on it. looks as new as when i bought it. and no problem at all.

Well
Looking at the cracks and their positioning it seems to me that the cracks seems to be due to a weak point in the design and some people just manage to break them. The one near the stylus I'm guessing happens because people are pulling it out at an angle and putting stress on the body, instead of taking it easy.
The one inside, by battery seems to be that theyre getting a "bending" force applied to them, back pockets anyone? sitting on them? Anyway, had mine a week, seems ok, dropped it a few times,no problems, got a crystal case on it now too for Xtra protection.
Will see how it goes after a while, but to be honest, if it does crack etc, i'm sure the provider would have to replace it?

Guys,
Well, if I buy it from Amazon, it comes with no warranty and it is an unlocked phone.
I also disagree that the price of X1a is the same as X1i. The reduced video capabilities should have affected X1a's pricing (which is why I am not even considering SonyStyleUSA).
Cheers.

gtrab said:
Only a couple of production batches were affected with this issue
I've had 3 xperias sofar and none of them had cracks
What's more: IMHO, even a cracked xperia would be better than an Iphone or anything else out there
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Whoa, I'd love to have one of your phone. Though without the crack in my case, I still liked my phone. By the way, since you got three phone I was wondering, when I borrowed my cousin's black Xperia, the arc slider seem just a little oo shaky compared to mine, hers rebounds a bit when sliding in and out. mine doesn't .Don't you notice any differences in your X1s?

PoisonWolf said:
Guys,
Well, if I buy it from Amazon, it comes with no warranty and it is an unlocked phone.
I also disagree that the price of X1a is the same as X1i. The reduced video capabilities should have affected X1a's pricing (which is why I am not even considering SonyStyleUSA).
Cheers.
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I don't know the laws in your country, but as far as I know, when you buy a new phone you always have warranty from the manufacturer as long as you have an invoice (bill?) for it.
Of course, you will have no provider where you can go, but sonyericsson itself has to be responsible.

Finally, my 4th HD2, a FLAWLESS device !!

As you may have read before, I was really complaining because of the poor voicecall quality, screen alignment with the plastic cover and many other flaws. I have replaced my device twice and got each time a different problem. I decided not to give up...
Today, I got my 4th HD2 and the earpiece problem is GONE!!
The first thing I did was to have a look at the screen. It is perfectly flush/aligned with the cover. It used to be either deeper somewhere at the corners or higher.
The problem with the light sensor doesn't exist anymore and after more than 12 hours of extensive testing, I can say I don't have any problem with machine anymore. Finally a flawless HD2.
One thing I've noticed ( because I'm used to register all my devices the 1st day I buy it ) that the serial number is almost the same as the 1st device having too many problems, the difference is like 372 only and the 4th HD2 is even older than all the previous handsets ( Manufacture date: 2nd of Nov. 2009 )
I believe that this is not a problem with some specific affected batches. IMHO, it is random...
Hope that helped

I didn't follow your previous thread. Do you have a summary on the problems you encountered and may I ask how you proceeded with your reclamation? Was it directly with HTC or through your vendor?
I also notice that my screen isn't perfectly aligned with the cover, it's a bit of gap to the top right, whereas on the top left i don't feel any gap. This doesn't kill me but if there are handsets that are perfectly made, I want one when I'm paying this much money. I also encounter sparkling sounds when talking, specially when using the speaker.

umiss said:
I didn't follow your previous thread. Do you have a summary on the problems you encountered and may I ask how you proceeded with your reclamation? Was it directly with HTC or through your vendor?
I also notice that my screen isn't perfectly aligned with the cover, it's a bit of gap to the top right, whereas on the top left i don't feel any gap. This doesn't kill me but if there are handsets that are perfectly made, I want one when I'm paying this much money. I also encounter sparkling sounds when talking, specially when using the speaker.
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Actually I was forced to sell the devices because they refused to consider the problems as well known... I lost around 100 Euros but got a good device after all... you know we all like perfectionism
Some of the problems like I mentioned :
-The screen not correctly aligned with the plastic cover
-Crackling and noisy earpiece when making voicecalls
-Very loose hardware keys and buttons. They are not rock solid now but way better
-Light sensor behavior was somehow weird. Doesn't always work, dont ask me why
- Screen jitters like the ones posted on youtube.
you can also have a look here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=590425
Cheers

Xeon said:
The first thing I did was to have a look at the screen. It is perfectly flush/aligned with the cover. It used to be either deeper somewhere at the corners or higher.
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Yes, so as to be perfectly aligned after applying the screen protector. I installed mine two days ago and now the screen is perfectly aligned.

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Yes, so as to be perfectly aligned after applying the screen protector. I installed mine two days ago and now the screen is perfectly aligned.
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It's a glass screen, no protector is required. Most HD2 screens are flush with the rubber/plastic sides - there isn't a recess, I would say the ones that aren't flush are manufacturing defects.

I've had 2 HD2s so far and both have the earpiece issue. The 2nd had what felt like poor fitting keys initially, but over the week I've had the phone they've bedded in nicely and now have perfect feel.
I'm just going to put up with the earpiece quality for now, it's not perfect but I'm sure future ROMs will reduce the volume which should be a good start.

Ah Im glad you finally got one that works for you
Hope you enjoy it
Im loving mine Im not as much as a noob as I was when I first posted a month or so ago, where I got flamed

I think I only have the two following problems:
-The screen not correctly aligned with the plastic cover
-Crackling and noisy earpiece when making voicecalls
The buttons are a bit loose but I didn't even notice that before someone else told me about it.
But I totally agree with you, I'm also a perfectionist, but I doubt I'll make any effort beyond contacting the support and see what happens. Specially the bad sound quality.
Oh well, I'm glad you finally found a nice piece. Take care of it now, don't drop it or scratch it

Ah you managed getting another one
Good luck with it! Treat it carefully

Xeon said:
( Manufacture date: 2nd of Nov. 2009 )
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How did you get the information about the manufacture date of your device?
It would be really interessting for me to, when my device was builded.
Thank you in advance!

Xeon,
You seem to have gone through quite a few devices so, if you don't mind me asking, does your device have a rattle in the head of the device. I have got replies from quite a few people saying it is normal, but a few also don't have it. It's really starting to annoy me, I thought I'd live with it, but not sure I can now. Shaking the device hardly makes a sound, however, tapping it lightly near the camera gives me a big rattle.
Thanks in advance

My phone has a rattle toward the head area, and upon close examination, it appears to come from the camera at the top ofthe phone.
Since our phone doesn't havevs fixed focus lens, I'm assuming the rattle noise isthe autofocus mechanism.Therefore the noise is perfectly normal in my opinion.

Actually i think you are a bit too paranoic. That's fine, was same with me when I bought it and I think with everyone else. This feeling comes away after 1-2 months of actually using the phone rather than staring at it as at faberge egg from 2cm away everyday to find a scratch or a piece of dustd
p.s. - hardware keys are made that way for a reason and every hd2 has them the same way

NO actually mine doesnt ratltle but I discovered I got a faulty screen with the 4th device... shaking screen/cardio/untyped keys... the screen starts acting weird sometimes. IMO the last device is the worst as the noise problem during phone conversation wasn't solved and the distortion is so much annoying....
**** HTC, I am sorry to say it but nothing more to be expected from a device Made in Taiwan...
That's my last device, mark my words.

Xeon said:
**** HTC, I am sorry to say it but nothing more to be expected from a device Made in Taiwan...
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You know where the iPhone is made, do you? And besides the iPhone, pretty much every electronic device you're using...

[sarcastic] You're really lucky man! [/sarcastic]
My first HTC HD2 got broken and I've changed it, bought another HTC HD2.
Noticed that its build quality is really excellent compared to my old HD2 (that was one of the first produced), I've only had some weird problems with the touchscreen like yours, but I've solved it pressing it in the four HD2 angles: now the screen is more IN the device housing in the top right angle, but all of my digitizer problems are now solved.
Now my HTC HD2 is perfect.
Try with that.
Ouh, and remember that the noise in conversation can be a ROM problem!
Mine had too, but updating to the newer TMOUS radios I don't have it anymore!
Just software/network problems
And.. don't be paranoic, the PERFECT thing doesn't exist (talking of the rattle..)!

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You know where the iPhone is made, do you? And besides the iPhone, pretty much every electronic device you're using...
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OK Apple is robbing people and HTC is following.. thank you.
And no.. Nokia is made in Finland and some other European countries including Germany. You can guess that by looking at the serial number that's why you get what you pay for...
Sony low end laptops are made in china but high end ones are made in Japan like the S/Z/T series... You see, you pay for a top notch device that much of money expecting it to be almost fault free. With HTC you never know, it's all about luck.
It makes me laugh reading how many people here got a faulty handset. When someone states a problem experienced with his heaset, the first answer is " seems you got a faulty device"
For god's sake a fault should not affect more than 0.5% of the devices.. but with HTC, it's like a feature; each client gets a different problem with the hardware. I can't tolerate the polls results.. Like the one with Weird touch screen behavior and issues. More than 55% have a buggy screen.. I know that it's not a case study nor a realistic accurate interpretation but it gives you a clear idea about what's going on.
I swear on my mother's life that this device( including all the previous 3 ) has the worst call quality a handset could produce. Believe me everytime I make/get a call I start blaspheming. I burned more than 1000$ on this device but thanks I took the lesson.
I still have my HD which is almost flawless compared to this product but slow as hell.
Don't mention iphone and apple things as I'm not apple fan-boy

Well, reasoning is obviously no strength of yours. Sad.

Xeon said:
I can't tolerate the polls results.. Like the one with Weird touch screen behavior and issues. More than 55% have a buggy screen.. I know that it's not a case study nor a realistic accurate interpretation but it gives you a clear idea about what's going on.
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55% of people looking for answers to a buggy screen have a buggy screen, , , hold the press!
I'd wager most people in a petrol station have a low fuel problem. hehe

samsamuel said:
55% of people looking for answers to a buggy screen have a buggy screen, , , hold the press!
I'd wager most people in a petrol station have a low fuel problem. hehe
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This is not a repair center thus not a fuel station, its a poll where anybody looking for applications/tweaks/discussion participates so your " joke" is irrelevant

Purchasing DVP.

Despite all these bugs I am constantly reading about, this phone is simply too attractive.
To my understanding, dell will still send me a new handset if I find any issues with it before the 30 day mark. Can everyone tell me what to look out for?
EDIT: Probably not actually, now that they are no longer manufactured.
I've also read dell will give me an unlock code for free if I email them? Can anyone confirm this? If so I can buy the cheaper AT&T model and just unlock it. (even though im using straight talk, which AT&T locked phones are compatible).
Theres still no Root/Jailbreak for this phone, right? I feel like if we had dedicated developers we'd get it, but im going to do my best contributing what I can to get this moving, or maybe just ask dell for an unlocked bootloader, so developers have openness to fix these problems.
Its a shame such a gorgeous phone has so many issues, but I really would like to have this phone work for me. So I hope this section doesnt die soon after I get my phone.

I just love my DVP.
If we could "Root/Jailbreak" this phone there's no way I would upgrade so soon...
It's one of the best looking phones I've ever had (I do my miss my TP2 ).
I wish I had enough knowledge to help developers.

Theres very few devs for this phone.
Do you mind if I ask you a few things? Like any issues you have with the phone?

I bought my DVP maybe two months ago and I can tell most bugs are fixed. I think is a really solid phone and windows 7 is a really stable OS compared to my GSII.
Pros:
Keyword
beautiful looking
LED screen
Windows phone 7.5 is stable
Cons:
Camera sucks under low light
slow web rendering compared to my GSII
Phone can't be use as a mobile hotspot

The bugs have been solved.
The worst thing this phone has is it's camera, in low light conditions the photos are crap.
Also I'm starting to notice some dust under the screen, there's a thread about that...
These are the only things that annoy me.

Snazzy, Thanks guys.
Hopefully we can get WindowBreak or some kind of unlock working. Since dell is no longer manufacturing them.

HRQ.SLV said:
The bugs have been solved.
The worst thing this phone has is it's camera, in low light conditions the photos are crap.
Also I'm starting to notice some dust under the screen, there's a thread about that...
These are the only things that annoy me.
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I took my phone apart and clean the dust and put small pieces of tape around the screen so it wont be easy for the dust to get in so far it worked like a charm.

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I took my phone apart and clean the dust and put small pieces of tape around the screen so it wont be easy for the dust to get in so far it worked like a charm.
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Thanks for the tip, but for now i'm still gonna wait.
The amount of dust isn't that much (it still annoys me!), maybe three months from now i'll do it.

Thinking about picking one up tomorrow. Are defects really a huge issue?

The forums seem to be full of "Do you have defects?" posts, with tons of responses citing things like the screen being unattached from the case, dead pixels, auto rotate that doesn't work, a screen that is cracked even from a 2 ft fall, etc.
I'm just wondering if the devices they're shipping now are any different than the very first batch? Have they tried to fix any of these problems, or are these problems so rare that they're not doing anything about it? I hear that Google has a fantastic customer service policy as long as you get it from the Play Store and NOT Gamestop/retail, so I'll definitely be getting one straight from google.
Are these problems something I should worry about? Has Google done anything about them so far?
Thanks! I'm really excited to own this guy... hopefully no issues

They are NOT a huge issue. Remember that people with problems are much louder than those who are happy.
The biggest issue seems to be the slight screen lift on the left side of the screen. My device has it, but it doesn't bother me at all. And if the screen cracks in the future because of it, I will just get it fixed by Asus under the warranty.

wontstoptalking said:
The forums seem to be full of "Do you have defects?" posts, with tons of responses citing things like the screen being unattached from the case, dead pixels, auto rotate that doesn't work, a screen that is cracked even from a 2 ft fall, etc.
I'm just wondering if the devices they're shipping now are any different than the very first batch? Have they tried to fix any of these problems, or are these problems so rare that they're not doing anything about it? I hear that Google has a fantastic customer service policy as long as you get it from the Play Store and NOT Gamestop/retail, so I'll definitely be getting one straight from google.
Are these problems something I should worry about? Has Google done anything about them so far?
Thanks! I'm really excited to own this guy... hopefully no issues
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Don't get all paranoid about issues with ur device lol, just look for screen lift and dead pixels. Other than that enjoy ur new tablet
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Nospin said:
They are NOT a huge issue. Remember that people with problems are much louder than those who are happy.
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+1

Made sure I got one where it is easy as pie to return and that was Walmart. So far mine has been great and I've had it a little over a week and I used it ALOT each day to make sure.

Coming from someone who's screen cracked in my hand, I still can't hold that much of a grudge against the N7. Lemons exist and always will, even in the holy iPad lineup. Just check your device when you pick it up (preferably from a B&M store for easy returning) and if it's good, carry on.
Granted, I'm still a little miffed at ASUS over the whole thing, as I had to really fight to get my tablet fixed, but it's done and almost here at my house. We'll see how the re-unboxing goes. :good:
(fyi, according to the watering hole a good chunk of the N7 complaints may have stemmed from Apple fanboys making accounts just to spam fake issues, seemingly to take credibility away from the N7... lame)

i was also very worried with all the bad news about the nexus 7 but after close examination i have found very minor screen lift but everything else has been perfect
my ipod touch had a creaky screen and my tf101 had some screen lift and creaking but nothing bad came of them.
be sure to fully check it for peace of mind if nothing else but most of all enjoy it and test everything good about it too