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Does someone know if some radio exists for the shift?
It me does not work 3g and I believe that this will can to solve....
Hi There,
i asked some of the pro's to get me a RADIO rom too cause i like to get the radio dumped too, what is your current radio version ??
Greets
my radio is 1.58.21.23, but I have problems with that. do you have any problem with the 3g conection?
no problem it has way better connection 3g than my diamond laying directly next to it. As no HSDPA availl by my telco i cant say anything about that.
i dumped the rom so anyone with expirience can cook a flashable radio rom of it ?!
http://rapidshare.com/files/166050083/files_dumped.zip
Here some infos possibly helpfull for linux dev MSM7200side
SMI Memory BASE 0x0 size 33554428
EBI Memory BASE 0x13800000 size 8388608
SMM Script BASE 0x9595b0 size 200
Neutron, do yoy know if there is an original radio in any place?
and... what are exactly de files from rapidshare?
The files i provided are dumped like sayed in the HTC - wings post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359015
As i dont know how to make a flashable rom out of that i just uploaded them so one of the pro's could possibly make a flashable rom out of it.
AFAIK there are no official upgrades for RADIO rom.I googled for that quiet offten and found nothing.
But if you search for the Radio version in this forum u get Polaris roms with exactly THAT number AND in the NV items there are some config stuff called *_POLAR_* so i think we got the HW of polaris into our shift.
Anyone can confirm that ?
Greets
ps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=370418
Modifyed RADIO from polaris to kaiser with that VERSION number we got in our Shift !!!
1) proper radio dump is not made via the qpst memory debug, you should dump radio nand instead.
2) shift can use kaiser/polaris etc radios, i flashed patched one to supercid my shift but that's not enough to enable voice
cmonex said:
1) proper radio dump is not made via the qpst memory debug, you should dump radio nand instead.
2) shift can use kaiser/polaris etc radios, i flashed patched one to supercid my shift but that's not enough to enable voice
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As u said, shift can use kaiser's radio rom, I tried the rom provided in this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=370418
but I couldn't successfully flash it.
Would you pls tell us more details about how to flash the radio rom?
Hi i already bricked one touch hd,with is now on the graveyard...And before i brick my second one i want to know what rom i can use.
I just uspl my rom so it says now spl-1.15.uspl
what rom can i use? And mabey it's easyer to split the rom in sections for lets say hspl roms,uspl roms spl roms because now it's a kind off a mess in the rom section...agree?
so what rom can i use now with my spl 1.15 uspl version so that i don't brick my second(new) blackstone
thnx for the answer.
ps i prefer dutch rom,but wwe is good also.
regards stef
With spl 1.15 you can only use some of the older stock roms and probably only those that are available via the htc website. You will need to put in your imei number and only if there is an upgrade can you change roms.
Any other rom (and specifically the cooked roms) will require you to go with either hspl or uspl. There are no roms that are hspl only or uspl only. The choice is up to you as to which route you want to take. Therefore there is no need to sort the roms in the forum into those categories. The only choice you need to make is do you want wm 6.1 or 6.5 and do you want manila 2.1 or 2.5. These are only choices that you can make and once you have successfully installed hspl or uspl you can try a few to see which you prefer. Read this thread VERY carefully and then read it again. If you then have any more specific questions post them there and you will get better help.
What did you do previously to brick your phone, as using hspl or uspl or even flashing the wrong rom for that matter shouldn't brick the phone?
thnx for your replay
it works now..i'ff read twice the forum.I have uspl(so no permanent spl)and flashed mikenficent rom. It works great.
on my other phone i did hspl and that worked,but at one time it did gife me a lot off trouble (starting up and wrong colors) then i send it back to htc,and it had no waranty anymore..so i didn't let it repair.Afther i get it back..it did not start att all,so i think htc did something to brick it even more.
now i wrote about the USPL and tryed that. and now it workes smouthless...
regards stef
If you had the wrong colours before then something must have gone wrong with the hspl, because that is a typical symptom of the wrong spl for the rom you were using.
But anyway at least you have gotten a new phone. Look after it now
lol..i will NEVER use hspl again..because the software is never 100% sure.
and with uspl it works like charme...
my new touch hd is the one i stole from my wife..lol and i give her a nice MDA compaq V
so she is happy and i'm happy..lol
only thin i hope is there will be one time an android rom(not the one booting with haret(ok that works but is to slow...
regards stef
The first time I flashed mine I did HSPL with Laurentius L26 from the computer (not the storage card), and then Dutty R14, and then Xannytech, and it's always worked perfectly.
Sorry really to be a pain here, but if someone does not mind, can they explain to me ROM, Radio and HSPL? I think i know that ROM is the software running on your phone. but it that version number increased everytime someone make a custom ROM out from an official one?
Radio as far as i know is for wifi, radio, etc. is this correct ? And final we have HSPL, now what do need that for, and for what use it is?
I am ofcourse asking these questions because i started to look at all the nice ROM's out there and not sure if i should stick to what im doing and keep going for the higher numbers. Would be very happy if someone could quickly explain them all properly and then maybe guide me to other links where i can read more...
Thank you in advance...
SPL - Secondary Program Loader - Think of it as the BIOS of your phone. It starts the operating system loading, and when you flash it verifies cid and region locks.
HSPL - Hard Secondary Program Loader - This is the creation of Bepe and Cotulla and Co. and is a hacked version of the official SPL that bypasses the checks when you flash a rom. It requires SPL 1.42.0000 on your phone to use.
This is the only version that works for telstra phones.
HSPL2 - is an upgrade to HSPL that allows witching between most of the available SPL's, and also their HSPL equivalents. (So if you want to install cooked roms, you might choose 2.08.HSPL, whilst if you want to go back to official, you would choose 1.42.0000 in the HSPL2 dropdown)
HSPL1024 - Is HSPL specific to the tmous hd2.
hardware ROM - The Read Only Memory of the phone. Think of it as the hard disk in your device. This is your storage memory.
'the' rom - When we talk about flashing roms, we mean the file that installs the whole operating system on your phone. This file is 'flashed' to the rom storage space, where it installs itself. After it finishes configuring itself, whatever is left is your available storage memory. (usually around 180 meg on a standard hd2)
Official ROMS have version numbers such as 1.66 , 1.72. 2.10.
Version numbers of cooked roms are meaningless. They only apply to that chefs roms. He/She applies versions as they see fit, however you can get a fair bit of info from the ro mthread title.
Example, they will usually tell you the base of the rom, i.e what stock rom was used as a base, 1.66, or 2.10 for example, and also the windows build version, (the 5 digit 21xxx number, i dont know whats what with those, but the higher ones are winmo 6.5.x) and more as you get used to reading them.
radio hardware - The different models have different actual hardware that connects to the mobile network. That is why you cant get 3g on at&t with a T Mo USA hd2. No matter what software radio you flash, the hardware is wrong.
radio rom - The radio software sits between windows mobile and the hardware. It controls the hardware based on what you want to do. There are all kinds of reports of better/worse battery life, connection strength, sound quality results when flashing digfferent radios.
flashing a radio does NOT require a hard reset, so wont affect your install.
Some roms (example the 576 meg enabled roms) require specific radios, read the rom posts for info.
The big danger with radio flashing is only applicable to tmous users, , if they flash a radio with ..51.. in the version number, their phone dies.
A useful read. I hope you got a thank you...
heh, well i got one now, cheers,
Dear Samsamuel !
Tx a lot ! Although I study this forum now since I am a HD2 owner (who never flashed a cooked ROM) I start to understand these cryptic topic now by Your explanations, making me more brave to try it once. Tx
The only thing I still can´t figure out is: WTF are the REAL differences of the stock-ROMS eg. what EXACTLY is changed between ROM 1.43 WWE, 1.48 WWE, 1.66 WWE, 1.72 (no WWE methinks).
I got so far to understand that some ROM-upgrades are just earlier ROMs with all the following patches included, but some are a major switch from WM 6.5 to 6.5.x and Sense 2.5.19xxxx to 2xxxx, giving new features like rotation in all Sense-Screens.
Plz, get me right, I spend all bad-weather-weekends hours and hours reading in the ROM-cooker-section, read XDA on my HD at airports and train stations but the shere mass of info provided - a little bit here, an info there - prevents me to get the WHOLE picture. There is a thread about which ROMs are officially out till now but with NO Info about the differences between them and which is a major UPGRADE (WM 6.5 to 6.5.x, Sense 1xxx to 2xxxx) and which is simply a better working "older" ROM.
I got my HD 2 now by the help of the geniousses here (You, Cookie, netripper, Moonah, netdrg, BsB, TX, metaldetector-lady and, and, and -and SKTools ) to work perfectly, smooth and without any fault but still would like some features like full rotational capab of Sense, which is provided by later ROMS. BUT WHICH ROM IS THIS ?
Maybe someone could add some infos ´bout that as a sticky thread ?? to decide wether to flash or not to flash when a new official ROM is issued by HTC, cause every ROM upgrade causes a hell of a work to make the HD2 work as smooth and flawless as before (I have now about 50 apps installed and configured to my needs).
Tx for Your understanding
Hello all,
i dont know if im in the right forum if not please excuse me.
I have some question about the 1.66.407.1 Rom and the 2.07.51.22_2 Radio.
I bought a HD2 with these Rom and Radio already installed on it, if i go to the HTC support site i only can download the 1.66 rom with 1.72 radio. Is there any way to get the combination above (1.66.407.1 and 2.07.51.22_2)? I want to try the white GTX theme but if anything goes wrong i cant flash back to default rom and radio.
I found a page which is offering:
RUU_Leo_HTC_GER_1.66.407.1_Radio_CRC_Signed_15.32.50.07U_2.07.51.22_2_Ship.exe
and
RUU_Leo_HTC_GER_1.66.407.1_Radio_15.32.50.07U_2.07.51.22_2_Signed_LEO_Ship.exe
but which do i need the CRC signed or not? And what does CRC signed mean?
Thanks in advice
doerty
doerty said:
Hello all,
i dont know if im in the right forum if not please excuse me.
I have some question about the 1.66.407.1 Rom and the 2.07.51.22_2 Radio.
I bought a HD2 with these Rom and Radio already installed on it, if i go to the HTC support site i only can download the 1.66 rom with 1.72 radio. Is there any way to get the combination above (1.66.407.1 and 2.07.51.22_2)? I want to try the white GTX theme but if anything goes wrong i cant flash back to default rom and radio.
I found a page which is offering:
RUU_Leo_HTC_GER_1.66.407.1_Radio_CRC_Signed_15.32.50.07U_2.07.51.22_2_Ship.exe
and
RUU_Leo_HTC_GER_1.66.407.1_Radio_15.32.50.07U_2.07.51.22_2_Signed_LEO_Ship.exe
but which do i need the CRC signed or not? And what does CRC signed mean?
Thanks in advice
doerty
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The links you referred are for german Language. and to install any other Stock/Custom rom on your Hd2 you must have hspl2 installed on it first. check out for your choice of rom from many chef's available here. and flash it Simple using USB Sync process.
And if you want to go back to your stock rom . Then make a dump of your stock rom and flash it thru SD card. it will restore your hd2 OS back to the state as it comes from factory with original SPL.
for more information Search Forum.
Note: Installing Rom with Spl 2.10 or above( if any in future )Thru SD card will make your hd2 Lock to SPL 2.10 only. You Cannot Degrade SPL version. TRY ONLY USB. it is better and Good option to flash.
Hello,
I have a T8585 SH08LNW01064.
It's originally an orange one.
I use SFR, (i change my phone in a reparation shop after breaking the screen of my original one)
When had it i used HSPL3_PKG.exe and flash it with RUU_Leo_S_HTC_FRA_3.14.406.2_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14_LEO_S_Ship.exe downloaded from htc site.
I now realize that this ROM is not that i expected and i want to try ARTEMIS. BUt i don't arrive to flasch it now and i realize that i don't rellay understand the architecture of ROMs in my fone... as far has i understand the SPL or(HSPL or SSPL) is a kind of boot software who alllow the installation of only some type of ROM. After this there is the OS ROM, the driver ROM (RADIO)....
So my questioin are :
Is there any schematic or definition about the full architecture of HTC HD ROM, a compatibility board??
What is excatly the meaning of SPL HSPL SSPL, what are they roles?
I would like to know how does the differents ROM are linked, what are the constraint?
I mean as an electronician i imagine that the electrical part of the mobiles fone are the same so normally i can flash everything on every fone... But i realize it's not the case and i don't arrive to catch how does it work//
Thank You.
OK I can not fully answer your question here, but i will share what I know, also check out my little guide i wrote linked in my sig,
The bootloader is made up of what is called IPL and SPL. IPL stands for Initial Progam Loader which is resonsable for loading and initializing the hardware of the device on boot up. Without this the device does not work, it will not even turn on. This is why when you brick a device it will not turn on because you have removed or currupted the bootloader which contains the IPL. SPL stands for Secondary Program Loader wich is responsable for loading or booting up your ROM and allowing you to flash another ROM to your device. SPL wil only allow official or Signed ROMs to be flashed to your device this is due to the CID. HSPL stands for Hard Secoundary Program Loader wich does the same thing as SPL but the deference between SPL and HSPL is SPL can be changed flashing a singed ROM via RUU and HSPL can not be changed when flashing a signed ROM via RUU. HSPL also disables the CID and allows unofficial or custom ROMs to be flashed to your device.
Also software on phones and mobile devices are usually device spacific so you can not use it on other devices. This is why you can not just flash any kind of device software to your device. Bootloaders are very devices spacicic with out a bootloader a device will not do anything.
I do not know of any schematic or the such that is accessable by the general public or atleast I have not found one.
Just check out his guide. I think it'll give you what you need.
Kailkti said:
Just check out his guide. I think it'll give you what you need.
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If you have some of what the OP is asking for please by all means send it to me via PM also as my brain hungers for information LOL.
But seriously I would love to see anything you have are any info you can provide.
Hi!
Thanks for ur reply, sorry that i didn't find out the information in the forum before.
It's start to be more understandable for me.
So now next step, is how to identify exactly the model of my fone? i have the serial number, but i didn't wrote down what was the SPL and version i originally had
What are the limitations? why i can't simply put the latest version of HSPL, and flash all rom i want? Is there different electrical model of T8585 wich correspond to some specific SPL, wich correspond to specific ROM? Or is it just a question of association of good SPL/HSPL/ROM
And is there a compatibility board?
ANs i don't really understand the notion of bricking fone: it only happen if you damage your IPL, but as far as i understand, the IPL is never changed when you falsh ROM: at maximum you change the SPL...????
About ROMs:
I have:
official HTC 3.14.406.2 (04666) FRE
This ROM contain
System version 5.2.21913 (21913.5.0.94)
Manila 2.5.20181527.0
Radio drivers 2.15.50.14
Protocol version 15.42.50.11U
Here i don't understand well what is contained in the ROM and what could be changed separaltly, i mean i read about RADIO ROM... it means that i can flash a radio ROM separatly of the HTC official ROM?
I didn't undestand exactly also what are the different function of these:
System version: it's the operating system part of the ROM: WINDOW6.5???
Manila: It's the MMI developed by HTC, the "SENSE"???
Radio it's the drivers dor the radio chipset in my phone??
Protocol version i don't have a clue of what is it??
And is it for example the same radio wich are used for android and window?
Thanks again for your help.
Guilhem31 said:
Hi!
Thanks for ur reply, sorry that i didn't find out the information in the forum before.
It's start to be more understandable for me.
So now next step, is how to identify exactly the model of my fone? i have the serial number, but i didn't wrote down what was the SPL and version i originally had
What are the limitations? why i can't simply put the latest version of HSPL, and flash all rom i want? Is there different electrical model of T8585 wich correspond to some specific SPL, wich correspond to specific ROM? Or is it just a question of association of good SPL/HSPL/ROM
And is there a compatibility board?
ANs i don't really understand the notion of bricking fone: it only happen if you damage your IPL, but as far as i understand, the IPL is never changed when you falsh ROM: at maximum you change the SPL...????
About ROMs:
I have:
official HTC 3.14.406.2 (04666) FRE
This ROM contain
System version 5.2.21913 (21913.5.0.94)
Manila 2.5.20181527.0
Radio drivers 2.15.50.14
Protocol version 15.42.50.11U
Here i don't understand well what is contained in the ROM and what could be changed separaltly, i mean i read about RADIO ROM... it means that i can flash a radio ROM separatly of the HTC official ROM?
I didn't undestand exactly also what are the different function of these:
System version: it's the operating system part of the ROM: WINDOW6.5???
Manila: It's the MMI developed by HTC, the "SENSE"???
Radio it's the drivers dor the radio chipset in my phone??
Protocol version i don't have a clue of what is it??
And is it for example the same radio wich are used for android and window?
Thanks again for your help.
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I am still learning about all of this myself and someone else here may be able to give you a more in depth answer. But I will share what I do know with you.
To find if you have a T-Mobile T8585 just look at your HD2. If it has T-Mobile at the top of the front of the phone and it has a green send button and a red end button then it is a T8585. If it does not have this it is a International/Eroupean model. I am not 100% sure about this but you can either go to Settings>About Phone>Hardware information to get the model number or look under your battery. As I said I am not 100 % sure about that as I am on my HD2 right now and can not pull the battery and I am runningvAndroid and not Windows Mobile
As for your limitations question the T8585 better known as the TMOUS has more ROM and RAM than the regular HD2s. Therefore it has a little different internals then regular HD2s. The ROMs made for the TMOUS are made to to take advantage of it's extra ROM and RAM. Just as the SPL 2.08.0000 and SPL 3.03.0000 were made to work with it also. (It is also a SPL 3.10.0000 out for the TMOUS now) Being that the HSPL versions are made from the SPL versions then this is why you only want to flash HSPL 2.08 or HSPL 3.03 to the TMOUS. If you don't you may uncounted problems as these vesionscare made to work with the ROMs for the TMOUS. Now this does not mean that the ROMs for the TMOUS can not be flashed to a regular HD2 it just means you do not want to flash a ROM for the international HD2s to the TMOUS. For one they are not made for it's ROM and RAM, two they have radio versions that contain 51's in them and they will brick a TMOUS. Once you have flashed HSPL to your TMOUS you can flash any custom ROM that is based of of a stock TMOUS ROM but Nome other because like I said if it was not meant for the TMOUS itcwill not operate correctly on the TMOUS
The only compatibility board is the maim board/mother board of the HD2. But I think you can not put a TMOUS main board in a international HD2, bit I do think you can put a international main board in a TMOUS. My question is though why would you want to? Lol
You are correct when you brick a HD2 you have screwed up the IPL hence a brick HD2 will not even turn on. I am not exactly sure why flashing the wrong radio will brick a TMOUS but it THECIPL and the radio must have some kind of direst corolation to each other. Yes when you flash a ROM that has a different SPL version included in the image than it chang the SPL. Unless you have HSPL, but this only hold true when you flash via RUU not via SD card. When you flash via SD card the Bootloader is what actually does the flash and it is only programed to flash the intiror image not just the ROM and Radio if HSPL is present.
A full ROM image contains a SPL version, a splash screen, a radio version, and a ROM version. You can flash any of of these seperate from one another via RUU or SD card but it has to just be the item you want to flash in the .nbh file.
You are spot on with your understanding of whthe the system version, the mantilla version, and the radio version is. I am still not quit sure what the protocol version is myselfcso if you find out let me know.
Yes the same radios that you use in Windows Mobile are used for Android on THE HD2 as radio software is device spacific and can only be used on the device it was made for.
T8585 doesn't mean tmous, all regular hd2 are t8585. Telstra are t9193, and I'm not sure the tmous even HAS a Tcode...., im sure it must, and it could be t8585, but just letting you know.
Also, regular hd2 3.14 roms come with 3.03.0000, so spl 3.x is not tmous specific, and indeed if you flash a 3.14 rom onto a regular hd2 without having spl 3.x it will not work. (Well it will, but badly) But you already knew this from your guide!
samsamuel said:
T8585 doesn't mean tmous, all regular hd2 are t8585. Telstra are t9193, and I'm not sure the tmous even HAS a Tcode...., im sure it must, and it could be t8585, but just letting you know.
Also, regular hd2 3.14 roms come with 3.03.0000, so spl 3.x is not tmous specific, and indeed if you flash a 3.14 rom onto a regular hd2 without having spl 3.x it will not work. (Well it will, but badly) But you already knew this from your guide!
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Once again thanks for the info Sam. This is how a forum should work everyone contributing knowledge to help one another. And if someone says you are wrong learn from them and not get made and lash back at them for only trying to help you out. I want to say thanks to all the members that are regularly on here trying to help and inform people as you all have taught me so much sense I have been here and have all been more than gracious. I recently started venturing to other HD2 forums here on XDA and have been greatly offended by some members that are there. Thankscagain to onecand all.
you are most welcome, and im glad you dont take offence, cos none is intended. Knowledge is power, and all that, hehe.
T-Macgnolia said:
Once again thanks for the info Sam. This is how a forum should work everyone contributing knowledge to help one another. And if someone says you are wrong learn from them and not get made and lash back at them for only trying to help you out. I want to say thanks to all the members that are regularly on here trying to help and inform people as you all have taught me so much sense I have been here and have all been more than gracious. I recently started venturing to other HD2 forums here on XDA and have been greatly offended by some members that are there. Thankscagain to onecand all.
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Yup, he beat me to it. The TMOUS model does not have a number, just a name: "T-Mobile HD2". The 8585 is the international model.
Merci beaucoup!!
Thank you very much for all this informations, sorry for my late reply.
So i'll try to apply this on my Hd2 now, i will let you know.... Cause right now my phone work very badly and i'm not statisfied with that!