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Hey, my S200 shows unusual battery drainage behaviour. it seems like if the battery empties to fast. I have the newest DOPOD rom and some programs like Pocket plus, diary and weather running.
Let me give you an example, If I have just finished charing the device and it displays a battery charge of 100% I unplug it and 1 minute later it goes down by 1% to 99 - an additional minute and the battery meter displays 98. By the end of the day i seem to have a charge of maybe 40% while using the device for maybe 1 hour intensly and the rest just phone standby with maybe 2 calls of 2 min avrg length.
On top i noticed that the left side of the device gets a littel warm when I am using the device extensively or charging it. Is that also normal?
Whats the deal with my device? i dont know a whole lot about pda's. Is that a normal power consumption?
How can I measure if my device performs well in terms of CPU speed because I have the feeling it also runs slow.
Thanks a lot
Similar to my S200. When I tried to use S200 with my old O2 XDA mini's battery, everything is OK. Battery of S200 has problem ???
I am not sure ? anyone has experience ?
Hi all:
i know i have been braging lately a lot on the forums about the battery issue after upgrade to wm6.
BUT- after actually surfing the net for like 2 weeks non stop, i found on several sites a solution which i think would end this "IF" someone has it.
Theoritical Explanation:
it's said that when upgrading to wm6 the battery has to be atleast 50% charged "this is wrong" .
battery has to be 100% charged because for example:
if your battery is say 60% and you upgraded to wm6, the new ROM will mark the 60% as your 100% battery hence why it drains so fast.
that's why you need to charge to 100% first before upgrade BUT the only way to make sure the battery is really at 100% is to remove it and charge it in the cradle separetly until the lid on cradle changes from amber to green.
after that put the battery in your BA and start the RE-upgrade if you are on wm6 already or Upgrade if you are on wm5 or wm2003SE.
you should notice the difference, i'm currently testing it for the 2nd time, to make sure it is the right solution.
P.S. am only a noob so excuse me for the unorganised post.
Pls someone test this aswell
Regards
The battery charge level has nothing to do with the OS, its part dependent.
If i get you right, what are you saying is "if the battery level is 60% on flashing, the new OS will take 60% as being the 100%(maximum) level of what the battery can go".
I think that's wrong.
DANDANA said:
The battery charge level has nothing to do with the OS, its part dependent.
If i get you right, what are you saying is "if the battery level is 60% on flashing, the new OS will take 60% as being the 100%(maximum) level of what the battery can go".
I think that's wrong.
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yes, hence why the battery and BA gets to warm or hot while charging as it cannot exceed the 60% mark which is marked as 100%.
i think it's the only logical explanation
Any battery get warm or hot on charge (or one some type of charge, like car charge).
I may say b*** s***, but after upgrading to WM6, my battery is acting as in WM2003; some software (like HTC home) is draining more, but nothing isn't abnormal; i still get with a 2400 mA a normal day of BA use (PDA+phone).
DANDANA said:
Any battery get warm or hot on charge (or one some type of charge, like car charge).
I may say b*** s***, but after upgrading to WM6, my battery is acting as in WM2003; some software (like HTC home) is draining more, but nothing isn't abnormal; i still get with a 2400 mA a normal day of BA use (PDA+phone).
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the ting is my battery was working very good before upgrade with wm5 and wm2003SE but after wm6 this happened, andnever had i get the battery and BA so very hot like ths.
i finished the re-upgrade after charging battery and it's draining is much better, dropped in 1.30 hours 50% but still getting much draining, it used to drain to zero in 1 hour
ahassouna said:
the ting is my battery was working very good before upgrade with wm5 and wm2003SE but after wm6 this happened, andnever had i get the battery and BA so very hot like ths.
i finished the re-upgrade after charging battery and it's draining is much better, dropped in 1.30 hours 50% but still getting much draining, it used to drain to zero in 1 hour
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Did you disables infrared on the new install? This might take some extra power.
nothing wrong with the OS , i believe it's a psycho matter maybe ??? my battery was 94% charged .. i took the device and went on a trip .. 4 hours with TCMP on listening to Mp3s .. i went back home after 5 hours it was 53%. Sounds good for me. 1450mAh and i charge it every 2 days with normal consumption. Maybe ur batteries are getting old because with No plugins installed it's just as good as WM2003SE.
Battery status - Its possible
ahassouna might be onto something. Logically I know this sounds unlikely. However I recall exactly the same point occuring in the smartphone forums when an OS upgrade came about. It was common knowledge that for the HTC smartphone you should have you battery fully charged when doing it. It was widely tested in the forums - www.modaco.com and generally accepted back then that for best perfromance your battery should be 100% when upgrading. BTW - in my opinion this is the best ROM ever released for BA - big thanks and respect to Helmi!
if it's so you never come back after upgrading with non fully charged battery.
I think that's wrong.
Emm let's say u were right, so i assume that the OS wont determine the correct battery level. So logically, when u get a 0% , the battery is shown as empty while it is not. So if u think a bit , when the OS indicates that the battery is empty, it shouldnt turn itself off because in fact IT IS NOT. So if you get ur device to turn itself off without being able to power on again , that means that the OS was right and it was 0% for real. ( Correct me if i'm wrong )
as the Matter of fact, wm6 is slightly 'heavier' than wm2003, it contains more drivers and stuffs. so it will consume lot More resource than wm2003. I think battery draining also closely related to the read/writing speed of your sdcard, how big the capacity...
My SX66 drains equally under all three OS's, Though I must admit I quickly upgraded from WM2003SE to WM2005. Ran WM2005 for almost a full year, good battery drain, WM2006 seems to drain the same thus far
I would have a look at your battery, there cheap to replace on ebay and such.
Slide2Unlock
Do you use Slide2Unlock? I confirmed that the software was draining battery faster especially ver 1.216. I uninstalled it and my battery back to normal.
I hope it helps.
I don't believe that would cause any problems...the OS is independent of the battery. Anyway, my battery use is only slightly higher in WM6 than WM5.
Your battery can be at any level when you upgrade the ROM...I really cannot see how the OS would "read" the status of the battery and set that as the 100% level.
Try running your battery down to something below 50%, then reflash your ROM...now what does the battery meter show? I bet it shows the same as before you flashed it, below 50%.
blues01 said:
Do you use Slide2Unlock? I confirmed that the software was draining battery faster especially ver 1.216. I uninstalled it and my battery back to normal.
I hope it helps.
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i double that
the_scotsman said:
I don't believe that would cause any problems...the OS is independent of the battery. Anyway, my battery use is only slightly higher in WM6 than WM5.
Your battery can be at any level when you upgrade the ROM...I really cannot see how the OS would "read" the status of the battery and set that as the 100% level.
Try running your battery down to something below 50%, then reflash your ROM...now what does the battery meter show? I bet it shows the same as before you flashed it, below 50%.
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Yes. In fact every battery has a internal chip for charge controll and status level. OS reads the status of the battery by this chip.
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Do you use Slide2Unlock? I confirmed that the software was draining battery faster especially ver 1.216. I uninstalled it and my battery back to normal.
I hope it helps.
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no i don't use it, i finished flashing for the 3rd time with a "3rd battery" Still same problem BUT draiing is less than before but still 1-2 hours max without any calls and drops to zero.
am begining to think my BA went razy for some reason.
P.S. i have no apps or anything installed other than flashing the ROM.
My BA drains normally. I have 2-4 days of standby with occasional calls and usage. The backlight auto-closes in 30 seconds, the power goes off in 1 minute.
ahassouna said:
no i don't use it, i finished flashing for the 3rd time with a "3rd battery" Still same problem BUT draiing is less than before but still 1-2 hours max without any calls and drops to zero.
am begining to think my BA went razy for some reason.
P.S. i have no apps or anything installed other than flashing the ROM.
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Can u retest it on a WM2003SE ? i think maybe a short circuit with ur device or whatsoever
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Yes. In fact every battery has a internal chip for charge controll and status level. OS reads the status of the battery by this chip.
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Exactly...so the first post is wrong...the OS reads the status of the battery and it doesn't matter what charge status the battery is at when you reflash...the battery status circuit will show the proper charge percentage...
I know there are already a lot of discussions on battery drain and believe me, I have read every single one of them. However, I think mine is slightly different:
When fully charged and using WIFI for 10 minutes, 10% of juice will be used. Listening to MP3 for 1 hour will also use another 10%. Overall, battery life is really bad but the key is it only happened suddenly. It have been very good up till now.
I have tested this on another battery and have exactly the same results so it is not battery related. I have also hard reset the phone and tested the battery with nothing installed and it still drains. A full charge only lasts me like 4 hour of very light use.
I installed Battlog and the power consumption is around 90 which I think is pretty low, but at times, even with this low consumption, I can see the battery usage literally falling before my eyes, like 5 % in 5 minutes.
I have also tried the HTC battery test, i.e. fully charged the battery, turned on plane mode and full brightness. After one hour, it only used 8% which I thought is normal. However, if I start using the phone by just simply clicking around, it will start dropping.
I believe the phone is fine on standby but once it starts doing things, even simple operations like moving around folders, it starts consuming a lot of power.
This all happens after an overnight charging episode when I noticed that the light stays amber in the morning and the percentage stays at 80%. I soft reset the phone and it immediately show 100%. This has never happen again but my battery usage is never normal since.
All in all, I think it is somehow hardware related, like the battery gauge is bad or the charging is never complete but it still shows green. It is still under warranty but I think will be very difficult to convince the service centre that there is something genuinely wrong with the phone.
P.S. Should also mentioned that I am using the stock telstra rom and have also cycled through the batteries twice before testing.
I had the same problem...
You should try resetting you battery:
1: let your battery drain to 0%
2: fully charge your battery while keeping your phone off!
this solved the problem for me..
Fenixz said:
I had the same problem...
You should try resetting you battery:
1: let your battery drain to 0%
2: fully charge your battery while keeping your phone off!
this solved the problem for me..
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I had actually "reset" the battery but only drain it to 5% before recharging as I have read that it is not safe to drain to 0%. I'll try to completely drain it tonight and recharge. Will report back.
btw, I noticed that when the battery is charged to 100%, the led stays amber for about 15-20 minutes before turning green. Is this normal or should it turn green immediately after reaching 100%?
Tried completely draining the battery and charge overnight but have no effect. The problem persists. So this is definitely not a battery problem.
I guess the last thing I can try is charging the battery with a standalone charger or another HD to see if there is problem with the charging mechanism in my phone.
The latest Telstra rom seems a bit better on battery
led amber
The led amber must turn to green
immediately after unplugging.
some thing is wrong with your charge
system .
aidinali said:
The led amber must turn to green
immediately after unplugging.
some thing is wrong with your charge
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aidinali, can you please explain what you mean? I thought the led will go off if you unplugged the charger. My problem is that after reaching 100% as indicated on the phone, the led stays amber for another 15 minutes before turning green.
Well , I'll correct & explain more....
1-when you reach %100 ,the led will turn to green immediately (if you’r phone is plugged in).
2-if you unplug ,the led will turn off (as you said ).
The problem is that since the battery meter in HD has not been defined by percentage , it doesn't match with
Apps like battery level or battlog .so when you see %100 on them , it' s not "real % 100 ".
I believe there is something wrong with the phone as the percentage usage and charging status do not match. However, since the basic HTC software does not have any battery usage in percentage, it’s hard to convince the service centre that something is wrong.
Any software that shows the battery as a percentage all have the same reading, so I assume they all rely on the mainboard for that information. There is obviously something wrong with either the charging process of the phone or draining more battery than it needs during usage.
I have 100% exactly the same problem as in the original post.
Does anyone else?
I have also tried 2 batteries and had exactly the same results with both, so I also know it is not the battery. The only app I have installed other than Dutty's 6.5 rom is Tomtom which does not need to be run for any of these issues to occur.
Any chance on warranty? I think it's software...
Try a different ROM. I've been having the same problem. I just flashed a new ROM about an hour ago (partly because Dutty's 6.5 kept freezing). I'm hoping both problems will be solved now.
i've found the latest radio rom to make a big different to battery life. 1.14.25.24_radio
the previous radio rom (1.13?) did suck the juice and made battery last 2 days less than 1.14
Try charging with a different charger. Ie. connect a USB cable on your PC and charge it from there.
I've had very similar problems with the stock charger a month after i got my TouchHD, and ended up testing with my old P4350 charger and all problems went away.
I've had similar drains even witch WiFi off, no emails, exchange or 3G access...
Now i'm getting a whole day's usage and i'm left with 30-40% battery, with 2 hours average talk time
I've tried with a number of chargers.....battery still sucks.
I've just switched from Dutty's to Energy ROM, radio is 1.14
If anything...energy drains more quickly than Dutty's
It says it drawing 350mA
Ok, I've used Energy ROM but now using Dutty's Leo. The only thing I've loaded so far is Battery Guard which say it's drawing 98mA when on standby(ie....backlight goes off). That'sa massive difference on the 250mA readings I used to get....now all I have todo is figure out which program I'm loading that is killing my battery.
That still only equates to 12 - 13 hours on a good standard battery with no use at all.
samlives said:
Ok, I've used Energy ROM but now using Dutty's Leo. The only thing I've loaded so far is Battery Guard which say it's drawing 98mA when on standby(ie....backlight goes off). That'sa massive difference on the 250mA readings I used to get....now all I have todo is figure out which program I'm loading that is killing my battery.
That still only equates to 12 - 13 hours on a good standard battery with no use at all.
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Standard battery should last longer. Sounds like your battery may be slightly faulty. Make sure you let battery drain fully before charging, and always try charging with device off. Should help improve strength.
I had same problem when i flashed miri's rom, hd got warm and didn't last, it cooled down in standby, the answer to my problem was that the wifi was not set to save battery mode, once i set it to save power everything was ok
Used 8% in 24 hours
Fallen Spartan said:
Standard battery should last longer. Sounds like your battery may be slightly faulty. Make sure you let battery drain fully before charging, and always try charging with device off. Should help improve strength.
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Have been trying that for a month now....something seems to have suddenly worked It only used 8% of the battery in 24 hours! I live in the rainforest with no service so cellular was turned off...wifi on, but I only accessed it about 6 times......still,nothing has changed. The same conditions would leave me with a dead battery in 7 hours previously.
Time will tell if it keeps up this well.
By the way....Thanks
So basically you're saying people should drain down the battery to 1% or so and not to 0% (device dies when battery is out) to get a better battery strength?
Seems to be the general consensus. I'm still not sure if that's what made the difference for me but previously,I would put my device to standbye when I went to sleep at 10:30pm and it would be dead by 6am
Samsung GT-T5800. Android OS 2.1-update 1, I5800XXJH1, Kernel 2.6.29 root SE-S603 #2.
The problem:
1. Battery till 50% discharges normally - about 10-15% per day, but after 50% it immediately shows 15% and asks to connect charger and phone switches off very fast. actually no chance to mane even emergency call. No 40%, no 30%, no 20% in battery level.
2. When connect phone to charger - battery charging level immediately set to 80% or every ~10 seconds: 50%, 60%, 70%, 80%. After that phone charges about 1,5-2 hours till 100% and after about 1-2hours it asks to disconnect from the charger. Battery temperature during charging and after it: 31-33C.
After 3d 8h 40min. (~80hours using applications: Battery booster and Memory Booster, no 3G) of battery usage phone switches off.
Battery usage was:
Android system: 61%
Cell Standby: 19%
Phone Idle: 12%
Bluetooth: 4%
Voice calls: 4%
Time from 15% to 5% - 15 minutes with no using the phone. Battery's temperature 20C, Voltage: 3588mV Phone switches off. I have tried 2-3 times to switch on the phone to make battery more empty and finally switched it on and at the same time connected it to charger.
Here is the interesting charging time line after phone died and was switched on to charge it (sorry - no in seconds):
0:00 - 1% - 20C/3588mV (temperature/voltage)
0:01 - 3%
0:01 - 5%
0:01 - 15%
0:02 - 15%
0:03 - 30%
0:03 - 40%
0:04 - 30%
0:05 - 15%
0:07 - 15%
0:09 - 30%
0:12 - 40%
0:14 - 30%
0:15 - 15%
0:16 - 30% - 28C/3698mV
0:18 - 40% - 28C/3718mV
0:20 - 50% - 28C/3730mV
0:21 - 40% - 28C/3727mV
0:23 - 50% - 27C/3728mV
0:36 - 60% -
0:36 - 50% - 26C/3769mV
0:37 - 60% - 26C/3774mV
0:59 - 60% - 26C/3807mV
1:24 - 60% - 26C/3807mV
2:06 - 70%
2:07 - 80% - 26C/3906mV
2:44 - 90% - 26C/3971mV
3:18 -100% - 25C/4101mV
4:03 -100% - 22C/4184mV - Asked to disconnect the charger.
After this charge GT-I5800 (with no any software changes) stoped to show 50% to 15%, but 30% disappears fast to 15% (it means one short call).
Possible that battery issue reason is that (I think) phone was charged partly switched off and partly switched on.
Maybe there are some battery level controlling OS software bugs, I do not know.
Is it official bug or issue?
Or some guru can comment that battery level issue? I saw I was not first user having it.
should be from the firmware
it seems this happening to all
Well i also have exactly the same issue...
I have observed that when i make/recieve a call the battery voltage decreases greatly because of which the battery also decreases and after sometime the battery voltage comes back to normal but NOT the battery.
My battery also drops down from 50% to 15% or 5%.....It's really very annoying...
I think that this is a frimware issue but i am not sure..I am scared that it could be a hardware issue...
Well i have mailed Samsung also regarding this issue so that they fix this issue in the next frimware upgrade and hope others also do the same so that we have a better chance of this bug getting fixed.....!!!
pravarthegreatest said:
Well i also have exactly the same issue...
I have observed that when i make/recieve a call the battery voltage decreases greatly because of which the battery also decreases and after sometime the battery voltage comes back to normal but NOT the battery.
My battery also drops down from 50% to 15% or 5%.....It's really very annoying...
I think that this is a frimware issue but i am not sure..I am scared that it could be a hardware issue...
Well i have mailed Samsung also regarding this issue so that they fix this issue in the next frimware upgrade and hope others also do the same so that we have a better chance of this bug getting fixed.....!!!
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And when I switch off / on the phone then it shows probably correct vallue. For an example. It shows me 15% and after restart it is 60 %. What a stupid bug - I've never have this problem with any device before. Even phones 10 years ago were able to show correct battery status. I think this problem was also with original 2.1 android firmware.
Can someone who has upgraded to froyo pl. confirm that this issue is resolved in the new firmware?
Sent from my GT-I5801 using XDA App
TekkenLaw said:
Can someone who has upgraded to froyo pl. confirm that this issue is resolved in the new firmware?
Sent from my GT-I5801 using XDA App
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yes, in JP9 / froyo is still this battery problem. When I switch on / off the phone then it's ok. Does someone resolved this issue please ?
My issue still exists. Froyo did not help. Also I can't understand why does one time on charging battery becomes hot, another time -cold.
same for me, and today i charged my phone and after charging just put it on my table after 1h i saw that there are only 80%. Didn't see this on other firmwares
Same here. I thought it is because of my battery manager widget which I had installed, but un-installing/master clear also did not help. Looks like it is major problem. Moreover, few of the battery widgets mention that in some devices they report 1% level battery change, but in Samsung I5801, it will be 10%.
what about this issue at JPA ?
when you was installing JPA did you hard reset your phone ? (factory settings)
If yes which application do you use for restore all of the datas and settigns ?
Yes, it was done. Hard reset seems is not related, and did not help.
Same problem here...
Since built in battery meter is not accurate at all Im using custom one but problem remains.
might fix battery issue.
might work...saw it for Epic 4g and gave it a shot (as its Samsung too). Some sites say LiON do not have memory like NiCd did but somehow it worked for me. Now I stay on 100% for 5hrs or so. lasting 2 days with 45mins call time and some Wifi use. Like today charged full 100% at 9AM and now its 2230 and I have 80%.I have switched off a lot of things. See below.
http://androidforums.com/epic-4g-tips-tricks/171804-recalibrating-battery.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701567
Above needs to be done once only. If it doesn't work then go to service center. Remember battery has 6 months warranty only so be quick and try above on new battery.
I also run LauncherPro instead of stock. Disabled data and enable when out of AP range (only use Wifi when needed and have an AP). Background data/synch is always off unless I use market. All apps are set to never except Gmail. Use K9 Email too and ATK. Am on DDj6 FM. Have removed a lot of apps, foursquare included and run 2 screen with LauncherPro widgets only.
Settings to switch off are here.
http://jvoegele.blogspot.com/2010/10/how-to-improve-battery-life-for-samsung.html
http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to-hack-your-htc-evo-4g-increase-battery-life-373058/
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might work...saw it for Epic 4g and gave it a shot (as its Samsung too). Some sites say LiON do not have memory like NiCd did but somehow it worked for me. Now I stay on 100% for 5hrs or so. lasting 2 days with 45mins call time and some Wifi use. Like today charged full 100% at 9AM and now its 2230 and I have 80%.I have switched off a lot of things. See below.
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As long as I know li ion batteries doesnt have the memory effect but they still have to be recalibrated from time to time, lets say once a month. That means dont charge the phone until it goes off and then charge to the top.
I wasnt willing to wait for 11 hours for phone to charge when I bought it and after few days I ve notice that battery last very short. After that I ve performed the full cycle (drain to the bottom - when phone turn itself off, then after few minutes turn it on, wait until it goes off - repeat few times until its completely off then charge it fully - I usually turn off the phone while charging ).
As long as I know all modern devices like phones, notebooks etc shut down before the battery is completely drained because they want to have safe margin of the battery power because of, as long as I know, when li ion batteries become completely drained then could be damaged completely so you cant recharge them again. Anyway with that "turn on then its drained" I believe that I use the battery more than normal and that phone will recalibrate to the new situation figuring that battery have more voltage than phone "expected".
Anyway with few recharging cycles like those I ve described above I can use the phone now for a 2 days with moderate usage...
That 50-15 problem still exist but 100% period last quite long and also phone can be used a long time from the moment battery reach 15% ...
Try doing it the other way round!
Keep your device on constant charge or at least as much as possible for 10 days from new and you should have now problem.
I have run tests on Lion powered devices for the past 5 years and I have never had to "calibrate" once.
My battery usage is always consistent and seemingly accurate.
And this method encourages max power from the battery.
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i just flashed my I5801 with Froyo (XXJPB and then XXJPA), but having very low battery back up, can anyone advice something which can help boosting the performance of the battery? Please help.
Hey guys ,
I have a Note 4 N910F. I can't say I'm impressed with its battery life (coming from LG G3) but it lasts from the morning till I go to sleep on med-high use which is fine.
The problem that I experience though, is that if I "heavily" use my device when the battery reaches 10% - i.e. the GPS and the Data Connection turned on and Google maps are being used, the phone suddenly shuts down. I need to put it on a charger to turn it on and the battery is 0%.
I will post a screenshot as soon as I can.
Do you think this might be related to a hardware issue ? Or is it just the battery ?
I've tried to calibrate the battery but didn't help.
thank you!
Snake_A said:
Hey guys ,
I have a Note 4 N910F. I can't say I'm impressed with its battery life (coming from LG G3) but it lasts from the morning till I go to sleep on med-high use which is fine.
The problem that I experience though, is that if I "heavily" use my device when the battery reaches 10% - i.e. the GPS and the Data Connection turned on and Google maps are being used, the phone suddenly shuts down. I need to put it on a charger to turn it on and the battery is 0%.
I will post a screenshot as soon as I can.
Do you think this might be related to a hardware issue ? Or is it just the battery ?
I've tried to calibrate the battery but didn't help.
thank you!
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Next time you should search first as there is another thread discussing about this.
But I will still answer your question.
It's your battery deteriorating.
It seems that your battery can only hold 90% of the original capacity.
Li-Ion/poly battery WILL deteriorate over time & it can deteriorate faster without proper care.
How to prevent faster battery deterioration:
Avoid heat.
High temperature is the worst enemy of any lithium based battery.
Never let your battery reach 0%
Reaching 0% means longer charging time = more heat exposure while charging
Avoid putting your device/battery on the dashboard during sunny day.
Do short charge multiple times a day.