Hi all:
i know i have been braging lately a lot on the forums about the battery issue after upgrade to wm6.
BUT- after actually surfing the net for like 2 weeks non stop, i found on several sites a solution which i think would end this "IF" someone has it.
Theoritical Explanation:
it's said that when upgrading to wm6 the battery has to be atleast 50% charged "this is wrong" .
battery has to be 100% charged because for example:
if your battery is say 60% and you upgraded to wm6, the new ROM will mark the 60% as your 100% battery hence why it drains so fast.
that's why you need to charge to 100% first before upgrade BUT the only way to make sure the battery is really at 100% is to remove it and charge it in the cradle separetly until the lid on cradle changes from amber to green.
after that put the battery in your BA and start the RE-upgrade if you are on wm6 already or Upgrade if you are on wm5 or wm2003SE.
you should notice the difference, i'm currently testing it for the 2nd time, to make sure it is the right solution.
P.S. am only a noob so excuse me for the unorganised post.
Pls someone test this aswell
Regards
The battery charge level has nothing to do with the OS, its part dependent.
If i get you right, what are you saying is "if the battery level is 60% on flashing, the new OS will take 60% as being the 100%(maximum) level of what the battery can go".
I think that's wrong.
DANDANA said:
The battery charge level has nothing to do with the OS, its part dependent.
If i get you right, what are you saying is "if the battery level is 60% on flashing, the new OS will take 60% as being the 100%(maximum) level of what the battery can go".
I think that's wrong.
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yes, hence why the battery and BA gets to warm or hot while charging as it cannot exceed the 60% mark which is marked as 100%.
i think it's the only logical explanation
Any battery get warm or hot on charge (or one some type of charge, like car charge).
I may say b*** s***, but after upgrading to WM6, my battery is acting as in WM2003; some software (like HTC home) is draining more, but nothing isn't abnormal; i still get with a 2400 mA a normal day of BA use (PDA+phone).
DANDANA said:
Any battery get warm or hot on charge (or one some type of charge, like car charge).
I may say b*** s***, but after upgrading to WM6, my battery is acting as in WM2003; some software (like HTC home) is draining more, but nothing isn't abnormal; i still get with a 2400 mA a normal day of BA use (PDA+phone).
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the ting is my battery was working very good before upgrade with wm5 and wm2003SE but after wm6 this happened, andnever had i get the battery and BA so very hot like ths.
i finished the re-upgrade after charging battery and it's draining is much better, dropped in 1.30 hours 50% but still getting much draining, it used to drain to zero in 1 hour
ahassouna said:
the ting is my battery was working very good before upgrade with wm5 and wm2003SE but after wm6 this happened, andnever had i get the battery and BA so very hot like ths.
i finished the re-upgrade after charging battery and it's draining is much better, dropped in 1.30 hours 50% but still getting much draining, it used to drain to zero in 1 hour
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Did you disables infrared on the new install? This might take some extra power.
nothing wrong with the OS , i believe it's a psycho matter maybe ??? my battery was 94% charged .. i took the device and went on a trip .. 4 hours with TCMP on listening to Mp3s .. i went back home after 5 hours it was 53%. Sounds good for me. 1450mAh and i charge it every 2 days with normal consumption. Maybe ur batteries are getting old because with No plugins installed it's just as good as WM2003SE.
Battery status - Its possible
ahassouna might be onto something. Logically I know this sounds unlikely. However I recall exactly the same point occuring in the smartphone forums when an OS upgrade came about. It was common knowledge that for the HTC smartphone you should have you battery fully charged when doing it. It was widely tested in the forums - www.modaco.com and generally accepted back then that for best perfromance your battery should be 100% when upgrading. BTW - in my opinion this is the best ROM ever released for BA - big thanks and respect to Helmi!
if it's so you never come back after upgrading with non fully charged battery.
I think that's wrong.
Emm let's say u were right, so i assume that the OS wont determine the correct battery level. So logically, when u get a 0% , the battery is shown as empty while it is not. So if u think a bit , when the OS indicates that the battery is empty, it shouldnt turn itself off because in fact IT IS NOT. So if you get ur device to turn itself off without being able to power on again , that means that the OS was right and it was 0% for real. ( Correct me if i'm wrong )
as the Matter of fact, wm6 is slightly 'heavier' than wm2003, it contains more drivers and stuffs. so it will consume lot More resource than wm2003. I think battery draining also closely related to the read/writing speed of your sdcard, how big the capacity...
My SX66 drains equally under all three OS's, Though I must admit I quickly upgraded from WM2003SE to WM2005. Ran WM2005 for almost a full year, good battery drain, WM2006 seems to drain the same thus far
I would have a look at your battery, there cheap to replace on ebay and such.
Slide2Unlock
Do you use Slide2Unlock? I confirmed that the software was draining battery faster especially ver 1.216. I uninstalled it and my battery back to normal.
I hope it helps.
I don't believe that would cause any problems...the OS is independent of the battery. Anyway, my battery use is only slightly higher in WM6 than WM5.
Your battery can be at any level when you upgrade the ROM...I really cannot see how the OS would "read" the status of the battery and set that as the 100% level.
Try running your battery down to something below 50%, then reflash your ROM...now what does the battery meter show? I bet it shows the same as before you flashed it, below 50%.
blues01 said:
Do you use Slide2Unlock? I confirmed that the software was draining battery faster especially ver 1.216. I uninstalled it and my battery back to normal.
I hope it helps.
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i double that
the_scotsman said:
I don't believe that would cause any problems...the OS is independent of the battery. Anyway, my battery use is only slightly higher in WM6 than WM5.
Your battery can be at any level when you upgrade the ROM...I really cannot see how the OS would "read" the status of the battery and set that as the 100% level.
Try running your battery down to something below 50%, then reflash your ROM...now what does the battery meter show? I bet it shows the same as before you flashed it, below 50%.
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Yes. In fact every battery has a internal chip for charge controll and status level. OS reads the status of the battery by this chip.
blues01 said:
Do you use Slide2Unlock? I confirmed that the software was draining battery faster especially ver 1.216. I uninstalled it and my battery back to normal.
I hope it helps.
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no i don't use it, i finished flashing for the 3rd time with a "3rd battery" Still same problem BUT draiing is less than before but still 1-2 hours max without any calls and drops to zero.
am begining to think my BA went razy for some reason.
P.S. i have no apps or anything installed other than flashing the ROM.
My BA drains normally. I have 2-4 days of standby with occasional calls and usage. The backlight auto-closes in 30 seconds, the power goes off in 1 minute.
ahassouna said:
no i don't use it, i finished flashing for the 3rd time with a "3rd battery" Still same problem BUT draiing is less than before but still 1-2 hours max without any calls and drops to zero.
am begining to think my BA went razy for some reason.
P.S. i have no apps or anything installed other than flashing the ROM.
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Can u retest it on a WM2003SE ? i think maybe a short circuit with ur device or whatsoever
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Yes. In fact every battery has a internal chip for charge controll and status level. OS reads the status of the battery by this chip.
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Exactly...so the first post is wrong...the OS reads the status of the battery and it doesn't matter what charge status the battery is at when you reflash...the battery status circuit will show the proper charge percentage...
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Hi all, i have developed this weird problem in my jasjar and i'm sure it's some settings that need to be changed somewhere and not the battery itself. When i first got the jasjar, it gave me a good 48 hours battery backup on standard use but i lost my charger and started using usb to charge it. it's since then that my jasjar drains the battery in less than 12 hours. i have tried replacing 3 batteries but to no better effect. I remember reading something about the Li ion polymer batteries having the memory effect or something and how to reset that in the bootloader mode. if you guys could help me figure it out and fix the problem, i'd appreciate it! here's the details of my rom.
R:1.13.00
G:42.47.p8
D 2.01.06 wwe
the rom is the wm6 from jwright.
(nb: i had the same problem with my shipped wm5 rom and i thought upgrading it would help but it didnt apparently).
How long do i need to use the battery to check the drain thingy. the reseller tells me to use it for 2 weeks before judging it. i'm screwed with having no battery life to this otherwise beauty of a device! if i could get any help, it would be much appreciated. thanks in advance. (josh).
Had the same problem, been happening all week, the phone would just switch of even though it registered over 80% charge. no i am happy again because i read on the forum that you need to totally discharge the battery occationally for it to get to a full charge, it appears that there is some sort of memory effect where the battery thinks it is nearly discharged, try it, i am sure you will find that it workes.
Had the same problem, been happening all week, the phone would just switch of even though it registered over 80% charge. now i am happy again because i read on the forum that you need to totally discharge the battery occationally for it to get to a full charge, it appears that there is some sort of memory effect where the battery thinks it is nearly discharged, try it, i am sure you will find that it works.
awright...i'd try it. thanks for ur help.
mayer said:
Had the same problem, been happening all week, the phone would just switch of even though it registered over 80% charge. now i am happy again because i read on the forum that you need to totally discharge the battery occationally for it to get to a full charge, it appears that there is some sort of memory effect where the battery thinks it is nearly discharged, try it, i am sure you will find that it works.
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thanks..
I too has a similar problem but this method did not solved my prob as my jasjar switches off by itself at 40%.
I had a similar problem a couple of weeks ago as a charge would last less than 24 hours when I used to be able to last 2-3 days.
Soon sorted it when I found that the Jasjar had decided to disable the automatic switch off, now a charge is back to lasting 2-3 days.
Mike
Had my MDA PRO for 1.5 years, and never had this problem. Battery lasted for 2-4 days on average, although now I have a 3200mAH battery it lasts for well over a week on a single charge
Lithium ION and Lithium ION Polymer (the HTC Universal uses the latter) do not suffer from any "memory effect". The only battery type that does to any significant extent is Nickel Cadmium, which is rarely used these days.
It's also impossible (well, almost) to completely discharge Lithium ION Polymer batteries - internal circuitry in the battery shuts down the cells when the charge gets too low, at up to 10% charge. This is because a completely discharged L.I.P. battery becomes unstable, broken (unable to be recharged), and runs the risk of explosion or leaking in this state. So don't attempt to drain those batteries completely dry folks - it's dangerous! Letting them run down naturally in your Universal should be safe though because of the cut-out mentioned above.
Maybe the Uni just has a large batch of bad batteries? You should also check what apps you have running on it all the time, and how often you use bluetooth and wi-fi - these two REALLY drain the battery if you keep them on all the time... Also try MemMaid, this is great at cleaning up your notifications queue, which is where lots of apps leave old and obsolete entries clogging it up.
I have the same problem. I do not know where the charger is, so I am always using the USB while syncing. I also tried 2 batteries, but they both last about 12 - 14 hours. Maybe it is caused by WM6.
I did not quite get this solution:
"Soon sorted it when I found that the Jasjar had decided to disable the automatic switch off, now a charge is back to lasting 2-3 days.
Mike"
What is the solution?
2 421....:
sorry for lang. the above understands(i hope)
nastavenia(settings)/napajeni(power)/rozsireni(advanced) tam zaskrtnes co xces a nastavis casy. ak pouzivas phonealarm musis aj tam. pozri si aj podsvirtenie(backlight).
btw aj had the same prob. appeared after 6mnth. i bought new battery. btw here is several threads with same prob. try 2 look for solutions there(imho its only one-new batt.)
I feel like I'm walking on eggs...I bought my Jasjar used on eBay just over a year ago, still the original battery. I almost never use the 110v charger, always a USB conection with my Mac, often recharging at 55-75%. I just intentionally ran down my battery to 18% (got warnings to recharge), and recharge via USB/Mac again. It took me almost 4 days to get to 18%, and Bluetooth is constantly on for ready use with my earpiece.
Curious: are the problems with original or replacement batteries? Cheers,
Update to Radio 115 or 114
It's worth taking into consideration that when flashing, you really need to have a full battery. There are reports of batteries starting this kind of behaviour after user has flashed with drained battery, then causes battery charge issues until next reflash.
IMHO even if u charge with a full charged battery still u get a prob so i think its a common issue with the jasjar and its power managment software itself by default as lot of people with diffrent ROMs are complaining about it.
no changes...
well, folks, i tried all these gimmicks but not to any definite changes ... i guess i need to consult the service center guys at last...i didn't want to do that but i guess i need to. i'm sure it's not my battery as i've replaced 3 of them...i dont kno what else to do!!! thanks for ur posts tho as i get to try diff things to check if ma battery is doing ok...keep postin...thanks...
josh.
how 2 discharge a battery >>>>>
problem with battery?
I have the same problem, it firs appear on original battery when charge was 40-50% so I have bought the same battery model (1620mAh). But it doesn't help. Now I,m using the 3200mAh battery and it doesn't help as well. The thing is that XDA switch off it self always on deferent charge level (sometimes is on 20%, 45% ar 80%...so is very difficult predict when it happen again). And one more thing...when it switch-off and I try to switch-on back, I can't (keep switching off), only slolution is put on charger!!!
I have downloaded the service manual (I think called "confidential") and it mentioned that it could be a problem with main board (so its HW problem). So can anybody tell me is a problem with bat or MB? (replacing the MB is fcjfdj$#ing expansive). Thanx.
well if your XDA does not switch on until you start charging it that's a clear indication that your battery is empty. I have the same with my faulty battery. Replaced it by a working one and it's fixed. Something is definately messed up with the charging circuit or the batteries though. They are not supposed to die so easily.
SpyderTracks said:
It's worth taking into consideration that when flashing, you really need to have a full battery. There are reports of batteries starting this kind of behaviour after user has flashed with drained battery, then causes battery charge issues until next reflash.
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The first time I flashed the PDA I ruined my battery. This time I thought I'd be smart and I put in the old battery while flashing. After flashing I put back the new battery and now that one is broken too! It wasn't even in the PDA when I flashed it. How bizarre is that?
I have to admit I did not fully charge that new battery before flashing, but I figured it would be safe since it wasn;t in while flashing. The battery worked fine the day before I flashed my phone (got the "charge now or save your work" message), but after the flashing and putting it in, it just crashes at around 30% or 40%. The usual battery misery.
Maybe I should try fully charging it and then flashing again. Trouble would be how to get it fully charged though. I always felt charging cuts off early on the "broken" batteries (pull the charge plug and stick it back and it charges for a while again).
I managed to restore my battery to good health by completely discharging it in bootloader mode.
First I completely charged it. When the led went green I pulled the shcarge cable and connected it back again. After doing this a few times it doesn't stay orange so long and then I stopped and left the cable disconnected.
I reset the phone (on full battery) and then I set the unit to boatloader and waited for it to completely discharge. I reset the phone again (on empty battery) and low and behold my trusty "charge now or lose data" warning came back.
BTW I reset the PDA hoping maybe it would store the power levels. I remember that trick from my Palm days where sometimes you had to reset a PDA on full battery to calibrate it.
I charged it back to full capacity and started using the phone as normal. When the battery was empty I got no crash but a friendly warning telling me my battery was going low. Phew.
Will try the same with my other troubled battery over the weekend.
I have the same Issue.But , I think it's about Rom.
and I'm try a lot of ROM version ,only one Version canbe use more than 3 day.
I can't find any reason ,.
discharge in bootloader ,I do it ,But battiery is same time for used.
I know there are already a lot of discussions on battery drain and believe me, I have read every single one of them. However, I think mine is slightly different:
When fully charged and using WIFI for 10 minutes, 10% of juice will be used. Listening to MP3 for 1 hour will also use another 10%. Overall, battery life is really bad but the key is it only happened suddenly. It have been very good up till now.
I have tested this on another battery and have exactly the same results so it is not battery related. I have also hard reset the phone and tested the battery with nothing installed and it still drains. A full charge only lasts me like 4 hour of very light use.
I installed Battlog and the power consumption is around 90 which I think is pretty low, but at times, even with this low consumption, I can see the battery usage literally falling before my eyes, like 5 % in 5 minutes.
I have also tried the HTC battery test, i.e. fully charged the battery, turned on plane mode and full brightness. After one hour, it only used 8% which I thought is normal. However, if I start using the phone by just simply clicking around, it will start dropping.
I believe the phone is fine on standby but once it starts doing things, even simple operations like moving around folders, it starts consuming a lot of power.
This all happens after an overnight charging episode when I noticed that the light stays amber in the morning and the percentage stays at 80%. I soft reset the phone and it immediately show 100%. This has never happen again but my battery usage is never normal since.
All in all, I think it is somehow hardware related, like the battery gauge is bad or the charging is never complete but it still shows green. It is still under warranty but I think will be very difficult to convince the service centre that there is something genuinely wrong with the phone.
P.S. Should also mentioned that I am using the stock telstra rom and have also cycled through the batteries twice before testing.
I had the same problem...
You should try resetting you battery:
1: let your battery drain to 0%
2: fully charge your battery while keeping your phone off!
this solved the problem for me..
Fenixz said:
I had the same problem...
You should try resetting you battery:
1: let your battery drain to 0%
2: fully charge your battery while keeping your phone off!
this solved the problem for me..
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I had actually "reset" the battery but only drain it to 5% before recharging as I have read that it is not safe to drain to 0%. I'll try to completely drain it tonight and recharge. Will report back.
btw, I noticed that when the battery is charged to 100%, the led stays amber for about 15-20 minutes before turning green. Is this normal or should it turn green immediately after reaching 100%?
Tried completely draining the battery and charge overnight but have no effect. The problem persists. So this is definitely not a battery problem.
I guess the last thing I can try is charging the battery with a standalone charger or another HD to see if there is problem with the charging mechanism in my phone.
The latest Telstra rom seems a bit better on battery
led amber
The led amber must turn to green
immediately after unplugging.
some thing is wrong with your charge
system .
aidinali said:
The led amber must turn to green
immediately after unplugging.
some thing is wrong with your charge
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aidinali, can you please explain what you mean? I thought the led will go off if you unplugged the charger. My problem is that after reaching 100% as indicated on the phone, the led stays amber for another 15 minutes before turning green.
Well , I'll correct & explain more....
1-when you reach %100 ,the led will turn to green immediately (if you’r phone is plugged in).
2-if you unplug ,the led will turn off (as you said ).
The problem is that since the battery meter in HD has not been defined by percentage , it doesn't match with
Apps like battery level or battlog .so when you see %100 on them , it' s not "real % 100 ".
I believe there is something wrong with the phone as the percentage usage and charging status do not match. However, since the basic HTC software does not have any battery usage in percentage, it’s hard to convince the service centre that something is wrong.
Any software that shows the battery as a percentage all have the same reading, so I assume they all rely on the mainboard for that information. There is obviously something wrong with either the charging process of the phone or draining more battery than it needs during usage.
I have 100% exactly the same problem as in the original post.
Does anyone else?
I have also tried 2 batteries and had exactly the same results with both, so I also know it is not the battery. The only app I have installed other than Dutty's 6.5 rom is Tomtom which does not need to be run for any of these issues to occur.
Any chance on warranty? I think it's software...
Try a different ROM. I've been having the same problem. I just flashed a new ROM about an hour ago (partly because Dutty's 6.5 kept freezing). I'm hoping both problems will be solved now.
i've found the latest radio rom to make a big different to battery life. 1.14.25.24_radio
the previous radio rom (1.13?) did suck the juice and made battery last 2 days less than 1.14
Try charging with a different charger. Ie. connect a USB cable on your PC and charge it from there.
I've had very similar problems with the stock charger a month after i got my TouchHD, and ended up testing with my old P4350 charger and all problems went away.
I've had similar drains even witch WiFi off, no emails, exchange or 3G access...
Now i'm getting a whole day's usage and i'm left with 30-40% battery, with 2 hours average talk time
I've tried with a number of chargers.....battery still sucks.
I've just switched from Dutty's to Energy ROM, radio is 1.14
If anything...energy drains more quickly than Dutty's
It says it drawing 350mA
Ok, I've used Energy ROM but now using Dutty's Leo. The only thing I've loaded so far is Battery Guard which say it's drawing 98mA when on standby(ie....backlight goes off). That'sa massive difference on the 250mA readings I used to get....now all I have todo is figure out which program I'm loading that is killing my battery.
That still only equates to 12 - 13 hours on a good standard battery with no use at all.
samlives said:
Ok, I've used Energy ROM but now using Dutty's Leo. The only thing I've loaded so far is Battery Guard which say it's drawing 98mA when on standby(ie....backlight goes off). That'sa massive difference on the 250mA readings I used to get....now all I have todo is figure out which program I'm loading that is killing my battery.
That still only equates to 12 - 13 hours on a good standard battery with no use at all.
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Standard battery should last longer. Sounds like your battery may be slightly faulty. Make sure you let battery drain fully before charging, and always try charging with device off. Should help improve strength.
I had same problem when i flashed miri's rom, hd got warm and didn't last, it cooled down in standby, the answer to my problem was that the wifi was not set to save battery mode, once i set it to save power everything was ok
Used 8% in 24 hours
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Standard battery should last longer. Sounds like your battery may be slightly faulty. Make sure you let battery drain fully before charging, and always try charging with device off. Should help improve strength.
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Have been trying that for a month now....something seems to have suddenly worked It only used 8% of the battery in 24 hours! I live in the rainforest with no service so cellular was turned off...wifi on, but I only accessed it about 6 times......still,nothing has changed. The same conditions would leave me with a dead battery in 7 hours previously.
Time will tell if it keeps up this well.
By the way....Thanks
So basically you're saying people should drain down the battery to 1% or so and not to 0% (device dies when battery is out) to get a better battery strength?
Seems to be the general consensus. I'm still not sure if that's what made the difference for me but previously,I would put my device to standbye when I went to sleep at 10:30pm and it would be dead by 6am
I was pondering possible reasons for the battery life problem that many of us are well aware of. Some peoples batterys will last a good day or two and then theres people like me who charge my phone in the morning and when i get home in the afternoon just to keep it alive and this is compared with people using the same rom. So i thought maybe there could be something to do with what the battery level is when the phone is rooted or a new rom flashed, and this process may reduce the battery cycle to a specific point. E.g. if i 1st root and load my new rom on my phone at 50%, when booted it could show 100% but its actually 50% than it should be. i have not tested this but im just putting it forward as an idea. if anyone does have the time to unroot, charge to 100% and then reroot their phone + custom rom and test the battery life could they please post their results here. No harm in trying ...
EDIT:It seems we have found a solution or alteast a way to greatly improve battery life by putting my random idea and the information from maxisma togethere.. here are the following steps:
1. When the battery is low e.g. 10% boot into recovery mode and wipe->battery data
2. Reboot and then drain the battery or let it die (turn on mobile network add the 'sync now' widget and keep syncing with the music on loud - works pretty fast)
3. Leaving the phone dead put it on charge and let it charge fully till the led indicates green (may take longer than normal)
4. UNPLUG!! the charger then boot the phone up and your battery life should be much better
TIP!! Remeber when changing and flashing new roms to unplug the phone from charge after you boot!
Hope this works for you all PM me for results (i went from 5-10% loss an hour to what is now about 1-2% max )
Nice idea but almost certain your wrong
Edit: turns out that you shouldn't boot your phone while charging after all
I've think it's more likely to do with how I charge my phone. If I charge the phone on my PC then the battery lasts me a day. On Sunday night I charged it with a mains charger, and a day and a half later I still have 40% left. That's with constant WiFi, Talk, calls and text messages.
Sometimes I'll do the same things mentioned above and the battery will be about 20% by the time I'm going to bed.
I could be very wrong, I'm no battery expert!
There shouldn't be any difference between PC charging and mains charging. The mains charger would utilise a transformer to give the same oomph as a PC gives...if not it'd fry the battery whilst charging.
Funnily enough, mains AC - DC transforms are a little choppy, although at such a low current it should be entirely negligible, but your PC's power supply should give a cleaner power output than the mains. Are you sure it isn't just a placebo, I still like to think charging my PSP via the mains rather than USB will do it quicker and last longer, since its dedicated
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I've think it's more likely to do with how I charge my phone. If I charge the phone on my PC then the battery lasts me a day. On Sunday night I charged it with a mains charger, and a day and a half later I still have 40% left. That's with constant WiFi, Talk, calls and text messages.
Sometimes I'll do the same things mentioned above and the battery will be about 20% by the time I'm going to bed.
I could be very wrong, I'm no battery expert!
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I've heard this theory before. I can't even begin to fathom how this could be possible. I hereby dismiss it as 'rubbish'.
Seriously though, I think it's far more likely to be related to the apps/widgets people are using after flashing the rom. The only thing that differs drastically from build to build is the different apps that people install.
Might be worth those with very crap battery lives sending me an hours worth of logcat. I can do an hours worth of logcat for myself (I never have battery issues), and compare the results.
He's partly right.
Android has a bug that when it's plugged into a charger while booting up, it'll report a higher battery status than it actually is.
This is preventing the phone from charging the battery completely.
So, a recommendation for you: Always unplug your phone from the charger before powering it up.
Attempt
Since my last post ive drained my battery out. Kept the phone off and charged it fully. It did take longer than normal which could be a good thing. Ive booted it up about 15 mins ago and il post later/tomorrow about how the battery performs now.
WOOO
I maybe jumping the gun a bit here but my phone says an up time of 1hour 27 mins. and normally its about an hour to about 5-10% of battery life and im sorry to say... im still on 100% WOO . I will still report how this lasts through to tomorrow, however i think theres enough evidence to suggest that the method stated earlier seems to fix what seemed to be a 'shortend battery cycle'. Anyone else with a short battery life i advise you to do the same asi have and please feedback to me with any results.. hope this has been helpful
EDIT: Its been two hours now and still 100% woooo
I got escited too bratfink when I had 100% battery for ages while it was in sleep, then I dl'd a few progs from market and whoosh my battery started disappearing faster than expected. Try downloading a few things and you'll see your battry disappearing quicktime.
minfree or ramzswap off could be causing the issue.
I remember before I put that tweak on my phone (when it first came out), my battery life was amazing.
After I put the values in for init.d as from the forum page below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622666&page=6
the battery life started disappearing like mad! and this was on a modaco rom!
I think now that all the new 2.1 roms are including this minfree tweak it is causing this battery issue to be carried over. All attempts to reduce battery drain are not having as much effect as they could because of this.
I would like to try one of these new roms without the tweak but I do not have the knowhow to stop it. i.e. put the original init.d (or equivalent) for the the roms in place.
You might argue that the memory clearing has nothing to do with the battey drain, but what i saw was that it did on a modaco rom. I don't know whether it is the switching of ramzswap or the minfree settings ( i have a feeling it is both.
Can a chef cook one of their roms without the tweak and keep the original settings?
adb remount
adb shell rm /system/etc/init.d/02memkill
then reboot.
kendong2 said:
adb remount
adb shell rm /system/etc/init.d/02memkill
then reboot.
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I'm on the BeHero v1.3.2,m will that command put my phone memory settings back to what they would normally be without the taskkiller?
If so can I just remove that file with OI file explorer as atm my laptop usb aint working (can't connect to phone properly, can only charge)
If you use Bluetooth, GPS*, or plug/unplug usb, CPU lock at 528Mhz and battery drain. This happend in all eris/roms.
I can see with Battery Graph while I sleep the battery is full, but no reason (only unlock to check time, kill alarms, read mail,...) the battery drains constantly. (no tweeter, no facebook, no GPS, no BT,..),
This kernel sucks. It's very buggy but is what is
kendong2 said:
adb remount
adb shell rm /system/etc/init.d/02memkill
then reboot.
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It's OK managed to fix the usb on my laptop.
I am currently performing the third step...i really hope this works cuz I am getting really really horrible battery life right now...I get only about 8 hours with ocassional use...like listening to music, browsing, taking pictures, sms.
thanks for posting this thread.
Ill post the results tomorrow ( hopefully positive)
I noticed that using the overclock widget (even with the lower clock option when screen is off) also eats some battery, it definitely reduced my usage time on Android 1.5.
Could someone confirm?
I dont know what it is and why people have this bad battery drain.
I have the VillainRom 3.4 installed. Totally NO drain. I turned on Bluetooth and called several times. Battery drain is 8% in 12 hours .
I did not install any widgets. Pure standard custom ROM with newest radio.
Leeejohn said:
I dont know what it is and why people have this bad battery drain.
I have the VillainRom 3.4 installed. Totally NO drain. I turned on Bluetooth and called several times. Battery drain is 8% in 12 hours .
I did not install any widgets. Pure standard custom ROM with newest radio.
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exactly my view.
I'm using HeroDroid and i had really bad battery drain problem. I'm a sort of heavy user and with bluetooth & gps permantly on, my phone had drained out by lunch time. After doing some tests, i have found that my problem was related to GPS. If i boot my phone with GPS off and left it at off, i get the same battery level usage as my original cupcake 1.5 ROM. Perharps you guys can try it and post your results.
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I'm using HeroDroid and i had really bad battery drain problem. I'm a sort of heavy user and with bluetooth & gps permantly on, my phone had drained out by lunch time. After doing some tests, i have found that my problem was related to GPS. If i boot my phone with GPS off and left it at off, i get the same battery level usage as my original cupcake 1.5 ROM. Perharps you guys can try it and post your results.
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I found that to help as well. In the last 3h10m it only went down by 4%. That's definitely a lot better than what I was getting before and with the previous ROM. I am using the new Autokiller and Overclock widget if that helps any and booted up with my GPS off and followed the steps mentioned in the first post.
hmm if its the case that the phone is "capping" the maximum amount of charge the phone can have then it should take longer to charge also
my battery life i kinda okay, lasts 10-12 hours with intermediate use, using battey graph app it took me 70 mins to charge from 40% to 100%
ill let it drain out tonight and see how long it takes for a full charge
it would be good if we could compare results with people with and without battery problems
Hi all,
Basically a few days ago I updated the firmware via Kies from 2.2 to 2.2.1 on my Galaxy S. However, I instantly noticed a huge decrease in battery life - 50% gone overnight when in standby! So I factory reset the phone and had everything disabled - the phone only lost 10% in 24 hours. So I decided to try and eliminate the possible causes so first I turned on wifi and within 2 hours I have lost almost 30% of the battery life with no usage so wifi seems to be the culprit
In the wifi menu network notification is off, however, the device seems to be scanning for networks every 5-10 seconds even when connected! I had no problems like this on 2.2 where I could comfortably get 2 days usage with wifi on. Also as I would prefer wifi to be on constantly when connected I would prefer not to change the wifi sleep policy. Any suggestions would be much appreciated
Many thanks, and sorry if there's similar thread already
which version of 2.2 did you have before?
try a flash back and see what happens.
Or try to drain battery (do not charge till 1% or almost dead) then full charge it.
Always happen to me when I flash my phone to a new ROM.
Thanks for the replies. I've tried leaving the battery till it was almost drained but maybe I'll let it go completely flat and charge it see if that makes a difference?
Also trying juice defender from the market to see if that helps. Not sure if it is a problem with the firmware though been looking around and a few people seem to have had the problem with no real solution
Might have to go back to 2.2 but would prefer not to as I've noticed a big decrease in lag on 2.2.1. Also can't remember what version of 2.2 I had I'll see how the battery life goes over the next few days after trying a couple of drain/charging cycles hopefully won't have to downgrade it. Come on 2.3.2
Thanks for the replies so far
Battery Bug is Major issue with all the versions of 2.2.1, Battery life is very bad. Even the Browser is worst in 2.2.1. May be in 2.3 it will get fixed.
I have tested all the new releases of 2.2.1. I found its smooth and fast.
A1exM said:
... replies. I've tried leaving the battery till it was almost drained but maybe I'll let it go completely flat and charge it see if that makes a difference?
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Very very bad idea to let the battery go completly flat, it's the best way to damage it and even lose 20% of his initial capacity. Never go under 10%.
To calibrate it properly, wait 10% turn off the phone, fully charge it, restart. (do it again 3 times).
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Very very bad idea to let the battery go completly flat, it's the best way to damage it and even lose 20% of his initial capacity. Never go under 10%.
To calibrate it properly, wait 10% turn off the phone, fully charge it, restart. (do it again 3 times).
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The battery is calibrated to do this already, the charging circuit will not allow power to the device unless there is a certain amount of charge in the battery. It's there to protect the battery from this exact eventuality.
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The battery is calibrated to do this already, the charging circuit will not allow power to the device unless there is a certain amount of charge in the battery. It's there to protect the battery from this exact eventuality.
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That's how it's supposed to be in an ideal world.
I flashed original rom but my battery behavior is still like on 2.3.5 RC4. Charge to 99% and drains very fast. Did someone know how to get back it original life. I tried battery calibrators from the market and battery wipe from clockwork mod but no result
If your optimus is old it is normal that battery life will get worser and worser ... All you can do is get new battery of ebay like I did and now my battery life is normal ...
Mike
It's not old. Its younger than a year. Battery life was good and on swift it last long and charge to 100% but after last time i flashed 2.3.5 rc4 i calibrate it (to try it last longer like on other roms) and now even on stock it drains like on rc4 and not charged to 100%
Use spare parts to see is there app that drain battery.
install "batterycalibration" from market, charge to 100% and calibrate your battery for this rom
Yes i download two battery calibration programs but the problem is that it's not charging to 100% but to 99% and drains very fast after this. i'll calibrate it a few days hope to fix
yeah, that happens to most people.
unplug, use a few seconds or 1min or so and plugin and wait if its fully charged, it could be that you have to do that a few times (2-3x)
coleonyx said:
I flashed original rom but my battery behavior is still like on 2.3.5 RC4. Charge to 99% and drains very fast.
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Your not alone on this, same thing with me.
I have ordered another battery from ebay but dont really know why all of a sudden this just began happening whilst using the same Rom which I think has something to do with it.
I use a program from Market called Android Booster to terminate running programs that start up or dont close once started, as sometimes if you use your camera, it will be still running, even if you close it up so hence battery life turns crap.
But also, if somebody phones me for 5 minutes this also nearly drains my battery, and I have everything also turned off. (WLAN, Blutooth, Data, GPS etc).
So dont know why this is suddenly heavy on the battery as it never seemed to do this when first installed.
There you have it, your not alone but think I will migrate to another or buy another phone as I think its pathetic to have to charge one's phone everyday, or twice a day if you chat to somebody for 5 minutes as it defeats the purpose.
coleonyx said:
Yes i download two battery calibration programs but the problem is that it's not charging to 100% but to 99% and drains very fast after this. i'll calibrate it a few days hope to fix
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Try charging through the wall charger instead of through the USB port on your pc. Worked for me then, recalibrate.
Turning off 3G when not needed?
Try turning 2G Network only in Wireless and Network --> Mobile Network
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Try turning 2G Network only in Wireless and Network --> Mobile Network
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I got my brand new battery and even charged it up via Power Supply from the wall.
Have run the phone only on 2G network only box ticked and everything else turned off (and I mean nearly everything) and for whatever reason, the Battery new or old still does not last long.
Even after it charges to 99% says its charged, it discharges very fast, or if somebody phones you and you only talk for 2 minutes the battery drops to like near 30% which is pathetic.
Something is sucking the life out of the battery folks with these Rom's so can somebody exactly put the food on the table here and say, whats up?
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I got my brand new battery and even charged it up via Power Supply from the wall.
Have run the phone only on 2G network only box ticked and everything else turned off (and I mean nearly everything) and for whatever reason, the Battery new or old still does not last long.
Even after it charges to 99% says its charged, it discharges very fast, or if somebody phones you and you only talk for 2 minutes the battery drops to like near 30% which is pathetic.
Something is sucking the life out of the battery folks with these Rom's so can somebody exactly put the food on the table here and say, whats up?
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What ROM are you using? It takes some time to charge up the battery and even if it says '99%' that doesn't always mean that it is. What is the capacity of the battery? I'd say charge it for about 6 hours and see then.
Thanks Johnny,
Problem at present seems to be solved now.
Yesterday and before I had been using Mur4ik's CM7 2.0 RC4.
I then uninstalled a stack of apps that I only used every so often and now its like back to normal so I guess it must have been those apps installed.
Folks here is a big tip. Uninstall Apps to test your battery to find out which one is the Energy Hog because even if you are not using them, they seem to be running due to either bad programming of the app or a system management issue related connection between the two.
Now, I have just updated to Mur4ik's CM7 2.0 RC5 and will certainly think twice prior to installing a bunch of things for the sake of installing apps.
Cheers people~!