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Disable Honeycomb Startmenu from Winmo 6.5

I'm trying to figure out how to disable the crappy wm6.5 start menu in favor of the HTC start menu. Everything i've tried has failed. Does anyone have any ideas?
I can't be the only one trying to get this info....

Bxsteez said:
I'm trying to figure out how to disable the crappy wm6.5 start menu in favor of the HTC start menu. Everything i've tried has failed. Does anyone have any ideas?
I can't be the only one trying to get this info....
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I cant believe you prefer the useless HTC start menu... which is just the Programs tab in Manila over the much nicer 6.5 start menu. LOL

NRGZ28 said:
I cant believe you prefer the useless HTC start menu... which is just the Programs tab in Manila over the much nicer 6.5 start menu. LOL
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each to our own i guess..i guess people like it because it links with the manila interface although honeycomb start menu is more customizable and gives you more indepth look into programs and folders which the htc one doesnt

NRGZ28 said:
I cant believe you prefer the useless HTC start menu... which is just the Programs tab in Manila over the much nicer 6.5 start menu. LOL
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For me its ease of us. I can customize my commonly used apps but now that i think about it I hated the tf3d interface when it first came out lol. Now its i'm hooked. I think they honeycomb is flat out disgusting. I would rather uses the original enlarged start menu. Having the program tab to me has always been useless. I never go to the programs to open a program.

Bxsteez said:
For me its ease of us. I can customize my commonly used apps but now that i think about it I hated the tf3d interface when it first came out lol. Now its i'm hooked. I think they honeycomb is flat out disgusting. I would rather uses the original enlarged start menu. Having the program tab to me has always been useless. I never go to the programs to open a program.
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AGREED Bxsteez, although i'm using a 6.5 ROM at the moment, i can't help but going back to my good ol' touch flo 3D interface, everything is like more simple i mean you have your stuff where you want them !

Probex themes now available

AT frickn last.... I have done it PROBEXDESIGN is live and ready for action.
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HTC and Windows Mobile
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These themes work with every providers release of the TP2/Rhodium in one easy .cab install GSM or CDMA It fixs any clock to a flip clock it removes the nasty orange icons from Sprint. it fixs the background for all tabs without any kind of hack has different walls for Port and Landscape. Dialer is fully skinned on all 3. Keyboards anything that could be skinned is skinned. The Home screens are fully functional on all providers nothing is not working everything looks nice and it is all one .cab per theme... no more 40 cabs to get a almost skinned interface. More themes will be available soon I have 2 more in progress. Windows 6.5 skins and TF 2.5-2.6 skins coming soon as well. Enjoy it has been a long haul to get here but the days is at last upon us.
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Just a couple of the many videos on you tube on these themes. Check them out.

Nice, Great work!

Finally Probe!!!
lol..when did you finish?! i remember you were still finishing up Sunday night...

looks great. keep us updated. i have been havin fun with my current theme 4 awhile and will be wantin a new look soon. hopefully most everyone will be updating to 6.5 soon so it would be good to have options there.

The 6.5 update if its not rolled in with the new sense UI [TF3D] will not effect these themes at all I have my handsd on the att version that has 6.5 included and it does not look to contain Sense UI only TF3D 2.1 so it will not effect the use of my themes at all to upgrade to 6.5 will be fine. I will be maken themes for 6.5 very soon to match these themes to keep everything looking uniform. I also just updated my PRO2 to the euro offical update. It does contain the new Sense UI but not the same one from the Leo I am already working on this version to have ready for when it rolls out in the US. prolly wont be for a while so I have time. )

off the hook theme probex! that alienware theme is by far the illest theme ive seen from u and cant wait for it to be available for my tp2.. thank you for all your hard work now and in advance cuz i cant wait to see what u'll do next! what about a thunder cats theme?!? lol! my phone is itchin for that blue theme!

Love it! thank you

Thanks guys really apprecaite the support.

Looks good probex, cant wait to see a release...

very happy with my theme!

Its realesed all three are available on http://probex.ca
My site has some issues earlier today but all is well again now.

Installed TF7X last night love it... great work

I just installed the naughty by nature theme boy is this theme sick ,probex has the best skills out there cant wait for ur other themes , if u need me to test anything on a sprint tp2 i will probex thanks again .And will ur 2.5 themes have weather on the homescreen ?

am I supposed to uninstall HDwall also? My missed calls over lap the date, and the tab on bottom says current selection

You must have had something installed that is messing with it. Yes it should say current selection on the tab but nothing should overlap did you have some kind of background for all tabs or something installed?
My themes have been extensivly tested on every provider on a stock install with no issues.

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You must have had something installed that is messing with it. Yes it should say current selection on the tab but nothing should overlap did you have some kind of background for all tabs or something installed?
My themes have been extensivly tested on every provider on a stock install with no issues.
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just hdwalls and I think, could that be the problem? also, the icon doesn't appear through the current selection window, just the text, i'll try uninstalling some apps tomorrow to see which one is causing it to act up
oh, I should also add that I'm not using a stock ROM, could possibly be the issue as well, great work though looks awesome

Yes that fact you are not on a stock rom is really hard for me to predict the behavior this is exactly why I stuck with the stock roms for all providers for building and testing. Its almost impossible for me to know how each rom chief will add or remove parts from other versions of touchflow or the sense UI I wanted a product that could be deployed to the mass's. The average user will not load custom roms. Esp on a device that works so well already with the stock rom. HD walls if it contains any manila files/ and it probably does could most deffinatly be causing wierd behavior If it contained some sort of wall for all tabs hacks My version does not run hacks to have wallpapers on all tabs.

And it's not only ROM chefs adding to this challenge, but also HTC and phone distributors themselves with the sheer amount of versions of TouchFLO plus additions from phone vendors - no standards and no documentations whatsoever. Everyone takes about how good for end users and for developers so called "open" is - here is the proof point that just the oppsite is the case.
I love Probex' work. It's design versus a mix of elements into a CAB file. And I can live with some glitches

PROBEX said:
You must have had something installed that is messing with it. Yes it should say current selection on the tab but nothing should overlap did you have some kind of background for all tabs or something installed?
My themes have been extensivly tested on every provider on a stock install with no issues.
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hey probey yur boy dash just seeing what the talk is about over here on your themes.... glad i could once again be of assistance... and for the people that want it heard i have personally tested with the touch pro 2 through sprint and verizon and are now error free on both as well as the gsm version that probex tested on. all providers have been covered for and cared for accordingly. i have all three and boy oh boy am i loving them and the ladies first is off the hook as well.... great job buddy and you got the email address and the phone number if you need anything.
D/\SH

Thanks D/\SH your the man.

Looking for a few more things...

I just got the TP2 for USCC last week. (WM6.5) I haven't used WM in about 2 years and am pretty dissapointed to find a lot of the same issues that were present then. I used to be a fairly competent WM user with above average knowledge in registry editing, ROM flashing, etc but most of what I used to use seems to have changed. So far I have found the fixes for the sms sent notification and the organization of the contact list by last name, first to first, last.
I've been all over these forums and cannot find a fix to disable the onscreen keyboard from auto-popping...ever. Also, in the sound settings menu, there is a slider to adjust ringer volume and another to adjust system volume yet these two don't work independently. I want system volume loud for hearing things like my IM app that runs in the background yet have the ringer volume lower as it's over bearing on full.
Something else I have noticed is that some settings menus appear to be there but not functioning. For instance, under settings>all settings>today there is a 2nd tab for items that does not change from the appearance tab. I've notice several menu's like this throughout the phone. It seems like there are things that other versions of WM may have had that this doesn't or simply that Microsoft/HTC got lazy in the initial release and either did not remove tabs that were not intended to be there or forgot to finish some that should. Just wondering if anyone has some insight into this.
I'm also looking for a good free IM client. I've seen many apps across these forums but with so many out there, it's hard to find the right one for me. I refuse to pay $45 for Agile messenger (although I've seen hacked versions but I would prefer not to deal with that). It's a decent app, not great but decent but $45 for a very simple app is outrageous. So, I found Slick ( http://slick.en.softonic.com/windowsmobile ) which is a free app and works great! The only feature it is missing that I liked about Agile is a notification (similar to the annoying sms message sent notification that I removed) while the app is in standby. Does anyone know of another free IM app that is simple and has that feature? I only use Google Talk and have noticed some apps specifically for that but there are so many to try, I'm hoping someone has a good recommendation to save me some time.
The last thing I'm curious about pertains to Manila. I see Manila all over these forums. I've done some reading on it and have a good understanding of what manila is. But, it's very confusing as some thread talk about reflashing ROMS for it and others talk about installing cabs over your current rom for it. Does anyone have a link to a good thread(s) that will explain things more clearly so I can make an educated decision on the best way to try this out? A, Manila for Dummies, if you will.
Thanks in advance for any help!
Edit: It looks like the "Manila" Touch Flo design is incorporated in WM 6.5 on my device already? Is this mainly the custom tabs located at the bottom of the today screen?

CeLlgUy said:
...to disable the onscreen keyboard from auto-popping...
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There's an option to disable "Auto Deploy SIP" in Advanced Configuration Tool.
CeLlgUy said:
... Also, in the sound settings menu, there is a slider to adjust ringer volume and another to adjust system volume yet these two don't work independently....
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Go to "Settings" tab, tap "Sound", turn off "Single Volume Control".
CeLlgUy said:
... under settings>all settings>today there is a 2nd tab for items that does not change from the appearance tab....
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First of all, TF3D/TouchFlo3d, Manila, or Sense are essentially the same thing. It's a skin designed by HTC to cover up WinMo. You may say it's actualy just a very elaborate Today screen plugin. Since it takes up the whole screen, you would not be able to add other items.
CeLlgUy said:
... I'm also looking for a good free IM client....
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No comment. I use MSN Messenger. See if other can help you out here.
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... A, Manila for Dummies, if you will....
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See above for a crude definition. There are many versions, so that's why there's so much discussion in these forums about them. People are trying to use versions that didn't come stock with their devices.
TF2D or Manila 2D - for budget devices like the Touch Vivo, Touch Cruise, etc
TF3D v1 - originally came on the Touch Diamond and Touch Pro
TF3D v2- came with the Touch Diamond 2 and our Touch Pro2.
TF3D v2.1 - came with the release of the official WinMo 6.5 ROM for the Touch Diamond2 and our Touch Pro2. Identifiable with the weather under the clock in the Home tab.
TF3D v2.5 - came with the release of the Touch HD2. Has customizable shortcuts on the Home tab, revamped People tab, coverflow-like Pictures tab and Music tab when in landscape, and other goodies.
Btw, going forward, you may want to list out what you're asking in bullet point form. Most people are put off by long essay-like posts. You'll get more responses if your post is clear and short.

ohyeahar said:
There's an option to disable "Auto Deploy SIP" in Advanced Configuration Tool.
Go to "Settings" tab, tap "Sound", turn off "Single Volume Control".
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Can't believe I missed that one, thanks.
First of all, TF3D/TouchFlo3d, Manila, or Sense are essentially the same thing. It's a skin designed by HTC to cover up WinMo. You may say it's actualy just a very elaborate Today screen plugin. Since it takes up the whole screen, you would not be able to add other items.
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I was just using that particular option as an example of a menu that is present but cannot be accessed.
See above for a crude definition. There are many versions, so that's why there's so much discussion in these forums about them. People are trying to use versions that didn't come stock with their devices.
TF2D or Manila 2D - for budget devices like the Touch Vivo, Touch Cruise, etc
TF3D v1 - originally came on the Touch Diamond and Touch Pro
TF3D v2- came with the Touch Diamond 2 and our Touch Pro2.
TF3D v2.1 - came with the release of the official WinMo 6.5 ROM for the Touch Diamond2 and our Touch Pro2. Identifiable with the weather under the clock in the Home tab.
TF3D v2.5 - came with the release of the Touch HD2. Has customizable shortcuts on the Home tab, revamped People tab, coverflow-like Pictures tab and Music tab when in landscape, and other goodies.
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That actually clears it up quite a bit. So it appears that my CDMA TP2 with USCC is actually 2.1 or 2.5? I see you stated our TP2 is is 2.1 but your description of 2.5 seems to fit my phone. Either way, it looks like I can just addon on any Manila Cabs that customize the home screen more as Manila is already installed?
Btw, going forward, you may want to list out what you're asking in bullet point form. Most people are put off by long essay-like posts. You'll get more responses if your post is clear and short.
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Sorry about that, I was reading though forums for about 2 hours after the bar last night when I typed all of that. I tend to get a bit winded when I'm intoxicated.

CeLlgUy said:
I was just using that particular option as an example of a menu that is present but cannot be accessed.
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Where else are there menu options that doesn't look like they belong? Anyway, if there are, then it's because of Microsoft and not HTC. We're on WinMo is on version 6.5 now, but it really hasn't changed much since I first used a pocket PC back in 2000.
CeLlgUy said:
Either way, it looks like I can just addon on any Manila Cabs that customize the home screen more as Manila is already installed?
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Certainly, there are components that are possible to install via cabs. But often, you'll need to flash a ROM with the particular build of Manila that you want to get those features.

So just to clear this up, if something is made for TF3D v2, it should (or might) work with our CDMA TP2 running the stock @M6.5 rom?

Also, anyone have a fix for the keyboard thing? I remembered the name of the cab i used to use, null keyboard but can't find anything that works with this rom. I've tried a few reg edits that have not worked.

CeLlgUy said:
So just to clear this up, if something is made for TF3D v2, it should (or might) work with our CDMA TP2 running the stock @M6.5 rom?
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It should, yes. However, if you have a TP2 with WM 6.5 you most likely have Manila 2.1 (in my case 2.1.191937). If you go to the Settings tab and scroll down, you should be able to see which version you have. That being said, many cabs work on all versions, a good few has to have a more specific version (like 2.0, 2.1 or 2.5) and a mere handful needs to be spot on (e.g. 2.1.1717).
After installing such a CAB you often need to restart your TF3D/Manila/Sense, and to do so you go to Start > Settings > Today and tick off HTC Sense. Tap OK and go back in to tick the HTC Sense box again. That restarts your TF3D.
Hope that made sense.

Thx for the clarification, I think I'm ready to start customizing this thing! I'm a bit hesitant as I really like alot of the features that come with the stock home screen. My last windows device was the 8125 and I modded the **** out of that home screen but this one I simply want to add a few highlights without loosing the over all look.
One thing I have been curious about is if there is a way to put a google search bar under the calendar. I know Google apps will put one up but then I have to go to my programs tab and open google apps so I might as well just eliminate a step and open opera.

I haven't checked to be honest with you, but I am satisfied with moving the internet tab a few notches closer to the home screen tab. I find that to be quick and easy enough! One tab on the tab and the google search is at the top of the screen.

Thanks for all the help! You gave me the tools I needed to dive back in. I understand the differences in Manila's now as I've flashed about 5 or 6 different roms. 2.5 is slick in theory, especially when Dusk Evolution v2.0 is theme is added but I had to return to 2.1. Thanks again for the help to get me started.

Im client look at PalRingo.. it's pretty awesome and covers most major networks (yahoo, MSN, gmail, facebook chat, icq others.

Yes, that's what I currently use. Kind of an old thread now too. I've come a long way since I started this thread.

Sence widgets on android home.

Hi,
New guy here so go easy.
I am running an HTC tattoo and am not a big fan of the Sense gui so I have reverted back to the android. However I would like use of some of the HTC widgets. Is there anyway to use these with just the standard GUI?

_matt said:
Hi,
New guy here so go easy.
I am running an HTC tattoo and am not a big fan of the Sense gui so I have reverted back to the android. However I would like use of some of the HTC widgets. Is there anyway to use these with just the standard GUI?
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I tried doing this some weeks ago, and it won't work. The HTC Widgets won't be available on the Android Home. Unless other know of a way to get it to work...

PLEASE help me understand...

I am REALLY confused as to how to get and install themes on my new phone. Some problems i have come across so far, with any instructions i have found, are:
Diamond TF3D Config DOES NOT work on my phone
I CANNOT untick TouchFlo3D as it DOES NOT appear in the items list of the today settings.
Can anyone shed some light on how you theme the phone. What can i be doing wrong?

billybag said:
I am REALLY confused as to how to get and install themes on my new phone. Some problems i have come across so far, with any instructions i have found, are:
Diamond TF3D Config DOES NOT work on my phone
I CANNOT untick TouchFlo3D as it DOES NOT appear in the items list of the today settings.
Can anyone shed some light on how you theme the phone. What can i be doing wrong?
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First you have to know what version of manila you're using. Are you using stock rom?

sounds like he doesnt have touchflo at all....
update rom, maybe then try...

It goes by different names... see if you have something called HTC Sense in your home items. Or Manilla
How are you trying to install the theme's? Are you talking about a theme for the menu bars (top and bottom) or are you talking about a theme for HTC Sense (Aka Touch flo 3d)
Each should basically install via a cab which is an install program. If its a standard windows mobile theme which will just change the background the bars then you just have to move the theme file which you can move over to a folder onto your phone (not SD card) and you should see it in your themes section in home settings.
If you want to switch appearance of HTC Sense/TouchFlo3d/Manilla... whatever you want to call it You can try this too... Theme Switcher] it looks interesting although Ive never tried it
Hope this helps

go to settings>all settigns>home or today>items

marduk79 said:
go to settings>all settigns>home or today>items
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it is used to modify windows desktop theme, not manila theme
manila only supports change wallpaper,
if you want modify manila's theme, you need to modify theme code of manila

Sorry for the lag.
Apparently i do not have TouchFlow3d
I have Sense. Not sure why their is one or the other.... I was never asked which i wanted when buying the phone. Even the CUSTOMIZING HOME SCREEN tutorial on tmobile's site assumes you have TF3D.
The whole thing is just confusing.

And the reason i inquire is because i really hate the stock layout/display/theme of my phone but every single editor/mod/customizer i find is for the touchflo3d!!!!!! ESPECIALLY co0kies home screen editor. I really would have liked that. Why do sense users get the shaft?

billybag said:
And the reason i inquire is because i really hate the stock layout/display/theme of my phone but every single editor/mod/customizer i find is for the touchflo3d!!!!!! ESPECIALLY co0kies home screen editor. I really would have liked that. Why do sense users get the shaft?
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ummm... you might wanna look into that alittle bit more. cookies home screen works with sense also, 2.1 or 2.5.
TF3D= pretty much the just wm6.1 and what i call a "test" for sense
2.1= pretty much wm6.5 and like TF3d but with graphic improvements and stuff.
2.5= ment for the HD2 but since were cool we ripped it, but pretty much same as 2.1 but just an updated version pretty much
if i may suggest a ROM for you it would be this... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569507
just scroll down to the 2nd post and look for "- valkyrie.ftp v6.7.21904-TR2.5 28th MAY wm6.5 without extra tabbs" it has cookie cooked it it
that would more than likely fit you since its a basic version and has good things preloaded with it. but if you want more than just that then go for this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773
just look for the download button with sense 2.5 and that has the cookie mod already cooked in it as well
just make sure to hardSPL your rhodium before you do any of this. for any more info just look in the ROM development thread and look for things in there.
with that said im done for today and im going to sleep

billybag said:
Sorry for the lag.
Apparently i do not have TouchFlow3d
I have Sense. Not sure why their is one or the other.... I was never asked which i wanted when buying the phone. Even the CUSTOMIZING HOME SCREEN tutorial on tmobile's site assumes you have TF3D.
The whole thing is just confusing.
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Like I said.. Sense is touchflo3D for all intensive purposes... most of the editors you see WILL work with sense. Sense is the newer name for Touchflo3d.
Sense comes in different varients... 2.1 and 2.5... you likely have one of those. I can't say for sure but I thought that cookies home tab only worked with 2.5 which is a significant upgrade. If it does work with Sense 2.1 then odds are you are good either way.
Do some more reading and you'll find out everything you need.

Aaron McCarthy said:
Like I said.. Sense is touchflo3D for all intensive purposes... most of the editors you see WILL work with sense. Sense is the newer name for Touchflo3d.
Sense comes in different varients... 2.1 and 2.5... you likely have one of those. I can't say for sure but I thought that cookies home tab only worked with 2.5 which is a significant upgrade. If it does work with Sense 2.1 then odds are you are good either way.
Do some more reading and you'll find out everything you need.
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It doesn't work with 2.1 I already tried a while ago and ended up having to hard reset my phone, losing everything, because it screwed it up.