Credits go to ms9, who managed to discover how to fix the problem with antenna.
I've followed ms9 recommendations, but I still got poor reception.
Here are the improvements I've made.
1) Scratch all antennas. These are the black tapes glued on the back of the device. Please, do not remove it, just scratch with a scisor or knife gently until you can see the copper foil.
You need to scratch all three antennas: one on the top (above the camera), one just below the cammera, and a large on the bottom of the device.
2) add some foil on the top and on the bottom, just enough to cover the contacts.
3) configure external GPS on the HTC settings
- Software connection: None
- Hardware connection: Com 3 and baud 4800
4) move the beelineGPS folder to your storage card. Click on the .exe. This will locate the satelites and also activate your GPS.
5) once it loads the program click on continue evaluation (since it is a 30 day trial) and click on tools / GPS / Setup Serial Port (Comm Port). This port should be COM3: - Drivers\BuiltIn\GPS_3TW and baud 4800. Do not enable the auto reconnet. Click accept. If your com port does not display the drive name (GPS_3TW), then your device could not locate the correct driver. Try to turn it off and on again until it is displayed. If you cant find this driver, maybe you should do a hard reset.
6)Click again on tools / GPS / Autodected GPS... it will search the gps. If it is successful, you will get values for NMEA Compatibility (GPGGA = PASS, GPGSA = PASS, GPGSV = PASS and GPRMC = PASS). A message "GPS found, tested and ready to use" will be displayed.
7)On the GPS sheet you will see several columns (strengh of satelite signal) and latitude, longitude and altitude information. On the bottom right there is a small red tag blinking.
8) if you get poor reception, you will get grey columns and the red tag will be blinking. This is not enough to use the gps. It is a weak signal. If you get a darker grey columns, the reg tag will go green and latitude, longitude and altitude will be updated.
9) to end the beeline program, just kill it on taskmanager.
Ps: Pay attention to the led colour of your HTC 3238. If it flashes green, it is just able to make phone calls, use Wifi,... but not GPS. When the GPS is activated, the led will blink blue.
Ps - If you still have weak signal, try to increase the baude rate on beeline or in your tomtom,.... from 4800 to 9600.
It may take a while to get the reception. You need to be on openfield at the beggining.
Honestly, this is a great phone for a clone. WIfi works great touchflow2D too.
I think the only weak point is the ear speaker, which has a poor quality sound.
In sum, a great phone for its price (under US$200).
cheers!
Fantastic guide, i have two questions:
1) do you use TomTom with GPS? How can i set up tomtom to able the GPS Receiver? If i choose integrated receiver the TT shows me "no gps received"
2)
x3p0 said:
1) Scratch all antennas. These are the black tapes glued on the back of the device. Please, do not remove it, just scratch with a scisor or knife gently until you can see the copper foil.
You need to scratch all three antennas: one on the top (above the camera), one just below the cammera, and a large on the bottom of the device.
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Why this step? to encrease the power of the receiver? i jump this step... is it necessary? beacause i don't want risk to make a mess....
my gps antena is like dead.
the beeline gps shows the message gps receiver not found.
Re-using another post from another thread, adding my config that work on my T3238+ clone:
o Go to Settings -> System -> External GPS ->
- Program Port = set COM 7
- Hardware Port = leave COM3 @ 9600 Baud Rate
- Access = Recommended (Manage automatically)
o Go to Settings -> System -> aGPS -> disable, it's no use for us
o Open your GPS program, go to GPS/Hardware settings and set COM 7 as port and 9600 as baud rate.
o Done! Go outside and try a gps search
I've set these options on my T3238+ Touch 3G clone, may work for you too
Bye!
thanks for replying!
i tried the settings you suggested but it didn't work.
it looks like the antena is not there at all or it is not recognised by the os.i don't know what else to do.
5) once it loads the program click on continue evaluation (since it is a 30 day trial) and click on tools / GPS / Setup Serial Port (Comm Port). This port should be COM3: - Drivers\BuiltIn\GPS_3TW and baud 4800. Do not enable the auto reconnet. Click accept. If your com port does not display the drive name (GPS_3TW), then your device could not locate the correct driver. Try to turn it off and on again until it is displayed. If you cant find this driver, maybe you should do a hard reset.
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this is what my phone shows when i run the beeline gps.there is no
COM3: - Drivers\BuiltIn\GPS_3TW and baud 4800 driver in there.
does that mean that the device does not have gps?
Anyone who knows something better than i do?
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just a quick first impression's (will do more this evening)
i have large hands and this fells better to hold
the on/off is on top instead of the side (better i think)
when first started you are asked your phone provider, and cab files are install for there settings. (great)
also did not have to hit cross hair in middle twice, ( as was mensioned as bug in another message
got mine today also.
thought it was slightly fatter than i was expecting. but i had never seen a jam before having had a M1000/himalaya and being used to the relatively thinness of that.
half tempted to hard reset and not install the AV crap that gets installed as apparently that slows it down (also 20mb ram being used when nothing is apparently running) not sure why we got AV software when its invisable to the user and it isnt updated.
more from me later too
just need a cheap bluetooth gps and a 1gb mem card.... anyone know best place to buy (cheap)?
Pray tell more about the AV stuff. What exactly?
No AV on Mine ??
av stuff?
not sure what you mean? :?:
Antivirus.
Trend AV is installed when you first boot or when you hard reset. For some reason any trace of it running or being installed. but apparently it causes some slowdown
some more on it
http://pocketpcdubai.infopop.cc/gro...41068401/m/8821053801/r/7261095801#7261095801
did not see it happen on mine,
whilst here like the hard reset. it's great
Congrats!!! Aliendad and thefunkygibbon on your new acquisition. May you enjoy your new toy in good health.
Please do comment on the speed of this unit as much has been said regarding the 195MHz processor. Specially if you run some processor intensive applications such as Planmaker or TextMaker.
Would love to more on your experiences.
Regards
thank you for your good wishes, keyboard is great for test sending to early for speed tests trying to install tomtom bt gps not detected yet but i know there is an answer here somewhere?
from i-mate's site..
Q: How do I use my device as a Satellite Navigation receiver?
Please follow these steps.
1. Switch on your Bluetooth GPS receiver, making sure that it is within your K-JAM range (<10m). Please confirm that your GPS receiver has sufficient battery and it is ready to bond. Also make sure that Bluetooth is enabled on your K-JAM (Start > Settings > Connections > Bluetooth > Mode > Turn on Bluetooth).
2. Setup a partnership bond with the device. To do that, select Start > Settings > Connections > Bluetooth > Devices on your K-JAM and click on New Partnership. After a few seconds the list of discoverable Bluetooth devices will be displayed. Your GPS receiver should be listed there. If not please check step 1.
3. Select your GPS receiver from the list and click Next. You will be prompted to enter the predefined Bluetooth passkey used by your device (typically 0000 but it could be a different code so please confirm with your GPS receiver documentation).
4. The Partnership Settings menu will be presented to you. A "Serial Port" or "GPS" service should be offered by the GPS receiver. Please mark the relevant checkbox and click Finish.
5. At this point you will have to associate and Outgoing Port to that device. On your K-JAM go to Start> Settings > Connections >Bluetooth > COM ports and select "New Outgoing Port". Your GPS device should be listed in the device list. Select it and click Next. Then select any of the COM ports not yet reserved by your device (your K-JAM normally reserves some of these ports for infrared or serial communications). One by one Select each possible COM port (clicking Finish) until the system accepts the selection (typically COM4 and COM8 are available for the user).
6. At this point the GPS device is ready for usage. You can now open any Navigation tool that you may have installed on your device and follow the GPS setup procedure specified in the application user manual (typically it involves defining the COM number assigned in step 5 as the GPS communication port).
cant test myself as i dont have one yet. let me know how you get on as i need one asap.
I inherited my sons XDA 2 when he moved to Cyprus.
It came complete with TT5 which worked fine in his car.
Due to a fault, the XDA had to go to the menders before I had tried it in my car and when it was returned everything installed had been lost.
I reinstalled TT5 but cannot get the XDA to recognise the wired GPS.
The only ID I have for the GPS is that it is marked:-
'FPA01' and has a serial number G270501447.
The GPS light flashes and the yellow and black spinner in the top right corner of the Tomtom screen rotates 90 degrees every 10 seconds but despite leaving it to run for 40 minutes I still get the 'no GPS receiver' message.
Any ideas what settings I should enter for the GPS?
Am I going to have constant problems as I drive a Scenic with heat reflective screens? (It definitely cut down the effectiveness of my Snooper).
If I have to change the GPS, what do you suggest to replace it with?
If I opt for BlueTooth, do I have to wear one of those posey ear jobbies or can I have it broadcast?
Sorry for all the questions. Not only am I a newbie but I'm also an old fart!
not sure if its the same on xda2 but on my xda1 i have to go to start > settings > connections > Beam and uncheck 'receive all incoming beams'
This allows com1 to function correctly
you should set the gps in tomtom to other wired gps, 4800 baud and serial port com 1
as for the reflective screen, one of my vans has this and the gps struggles to lock in there. I put it as near to a side window as possible and can usually get a decent lock
hope this helps
Having updated the ROM via HTC's website ( version 1.23.405.103 ) on my P3600 and installing Trinityhacks, I still cannot get the GPS icon to appear ( let alone the GPS itself) in the SETTINGS;SYSTEM menu, it only began to appear in the CONNECTIONS menu after i installed Trinityhacks.
I have 2 GPS programs (one of which is TOMTOM) which are installed and working perfectly, the only problem is that the GPS is not, and i can't figure out why! Please help,
Thanks
You don't need the GPS Setting CPL unless you want to change the default settings, which for most apps shouldn't be necessary.
Make sure in TomTom, you set the GPS prefs to Built-IN GPS Receiver (if you are on V6.03) or Other NMEA Receiver (NOT Other NMEA Bluetooth Receiver) if you use any earlier version.
COM port must be set to COM9 and Baud to 57600.
Once those are set, the GPS screen within TomTom should show a small revolving icon in the upper right part of the screen. Within about 30 seconds, the main screen should change from No GPS Device, to Waiting for a valid Signal. At that point you need to go outside with a clear view of the sky for a 1st fix.
If you continue to get the No GPS Device message, it suggests either the ROM didn't update properly, or there is a hardware fault.
Thank you for your help, It now all works after a hard reset, and have been playing with the GPS ever since. Great fun.
The icon is no problem and it not being there wont affect you much,
If you do want it, the easiest way to display it without modifying the resistry is to install an tweaking application like ' Trinity Hacks v2'. this is an excellant wee application that lets you easily make all kinds of settign adjustments without going into the registry.
If you do a search on the trinity forums its easy to find.
Good Luck!!
Hi,
I have got a XDA exec with Tomtom6 and a Solar Bluetooth GPS receiver...I am able to pair the device with my PDA and am also able to configure and define incoming and outgoing ports...COM 8 for incoming and COM 4 for outgoing....when I try and go to my tomtom software the only option which I get is to select the GPS type, in order to configure the device....and after selecting it keeps connecting to GPS device and nothing happens....I have even tried with Incoming (COM4) and Outgoing (COM8) and even with COM0 settings for COM ports within XDA, but to my bad luck I am not able to connect to the GPS device....can someone kindly help me with the above please
thanks
I have the same set up with the same problem. I have been told that port allocation & therefore GPS recognition is a known problem although TomTom tell you that there are no conflicts with the Exec & TT6. I have been informed that it is necessary to either download a program called GPS Dash or make changes in registry but I cannot find an idiots guide of what to do. Any help would be much appreciated before both the Exec & TT get thrown out the window.
I put a posting on a Radio Control forum that I subscribe to RCMF.co.uk as there are quite a number of very knowledgeable folks that frequent the site.
This is a reply that I received today from a guy who I think works for O2 and he has agreed to me posting her.
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Now then..... Bit of a complicated one this
Courtesy of our device specialists
First step:
You will need to install a registry editor. They’re available from various websites, I suggest Googling “Pocket PC registry editor”, but we can’t guarantee the reliability of third party software.
· On the XDA Exec, Go to Start > Programs and then load the newly installed registry editor.
· NB: This has to be done exactly as below in order for it to work:
Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings
Delete the DWORD marked "hide"
Add a new DWORD called "Group" and give it the value of "2" (dec)
NOTE: There are different types of keys you can add, you must make sure you add a DWORD, Click it so the values entry appears then add the value 2 as described above.
· Exit the Registry editor.
· Select Start > Settings. Then go to connections using the tabs at the bottom of the settings screen.
· The GPS panel should now show up in connection settings.
Next:
· After the Bluetooth receiver has been paired with the device, you’ll need to do the following:
· In Bluetooth Settings, select COM Ports tab at the bottom > New Outgoing Port > [Choose GPS Receiver], click Next then select the OUTGOING port to 8. Click Finish. Select OK (top right corner)
· Go to Start > Settings > Connections and open the GPS control panel, select the GPS program port to COM 0 then click Hardware tab. Set Hardware port to “None”. Select OK (top right)
· Start TomTom, Click Preferences then GPS settings, select “Other Bluetooth GPS”, and COM 0 should be at the top of the list (Important: IF “COM 0” is not in the list, you will need to hard reset the device, ensuring your contacts and saved files are backed up beforehand. It may then be necessary to begin this process again after re-installing TomTom). Select COM 0 as the GPS Port and then exit TomTom. (Make sure you fully exit the program so it’s no longer running)
· Go to Start > Settings > Connections and open the GPS control panel again, now select COM 8 in the Programs section (the one we set up as “0” previously). Select OK (top right).
· Open Bluetooth again in the connection settings menu and go back to COM Ports. Select GPS Receiver by holding the stylus down on the word and selecting edit then change the outgoing port from “Port 8” to “Port 0”. Select Finish, then Select OK (top right).
· Go back to Start > Settings > Connections and open the GPS control panel again and in the Programs port select NONE.
Select OK (top right), then OK again to close settings menu.
· Finally start TomTom and the GPS receiver should connect automatically. Wait for a couple of seconds and click the GPS settings and it should be connected.
The port settings shouldn’t be changed after this point, or the process above may need to be repeated, so the customer should now steer clear of the GPS settings.
If the device experiences issues connecting to GPS, you should ensure the GPS receiver is powered up and then exit TomTom and restart it. If this doesn’t resolve, a soft reset may be needed.
GPS Dash can be downloaded from www.gpsdash.com, but we aren't aware that this needs to be added first – you should try the above before installing, we can’t offer support upon, or guarantee the reliability of GPS Dash or any other third party applications.
Hope this helps.
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I will be trying this probably next week so will let you know if I have any success.
What about the poor old XDA11i ??
Arejay
I have been fumbelling around for ages trying to get TT6 to work on an XD11i .
I know that it is possible as there are members on line who tell me they have it running !!.
I am trying to get a bluetooth reiciever to talk to TT6 but getting no where .
Dont suppose you could ask your friend if there is a XDA11i fix as well ?
I just get the No GPS Device all the time despite the two items talking ( lots of flashing on the Reciever led )
Best regards
Astro1
Hi Astro
Excuse my ignorance but I assume that the XD11i is an O2 product. If it is I`ll certainly ask the question.
XDA11i
Hi Arejay
Yes the XDA11i is an o2 product with a great spec but no longer supported as newer models now availiable ( aka exec/ orbit etc ) it is an HTC device 2020i but has never been converted to wm5 so getting left behind.
Thanks in advance for you help , getting very frustrated here!
Astro1
Received a reply from another guy who I know to be very knowledgeable on most things to do with PC`s etc.
Try this solution
After pairing your gps reciever go to tomtoms satellite config and select "other cable" rather than bluetooth. Select a speed (start at 2400 and work up) then when it asks for the port select the bluetooth port. there may be two ports so you will have to suck it and see but this is the solution I used on my SPV M2000 which is an XDAIIs. When you find the right port and your reciever connects you can try it again but with different com port speeds.
I expect I will get another reply soon and I`ll post t here.
Tried , crashed and burned ( well not quite)
Arejay
I spent the afternoon going through all of the tom tom settings , leaving it a while between each.
After pairing I started Tom tom and went to the buetooth and the other nema settings( within the tt6 change preferences / gps section ).
One at a time I went through the offered port numbers.
By choosing any setting that was not port 6 the GPS reciever turned to stand by , going back to port 6 and it came to life again .( this was the case with both " other bluetooth and other nema " choices.)
With either choice and port 6 selected there was a lot of Bluetooth activity but at no time did TT6 like the choice ( little blue/ yellow disk doesnt spin) or at any time did the GPS find as satalite .
Using either of the two remaining choices tom tom( wireless or wired ) had the same effect ( turned the GPS off) .
With the other two setting choices I ran through the possible speeds but this made no difference .
TT6 continues to say "No GPS Device " which is short for not paired or set up correctly .
Any help here greatfully appreciated , getting to my wits end. ( wonder if I have brought a duff GPS unit ? but then why the activity when port 6 is selected ? )
Checking in Bluetooth settings the outgoing port stated ( cant be changed ) is port 6 !
XDA11i is a wm2003se device .
I have had no joy getting other programmes to talk to the gps either ?
Astro1
First the bad news:
Astro - Quote from O2 guy
We are at a loss here to be honest, TT is an unsupported app so it
may be that it's the application that is causing the problems rather
than the GPS itself.
I think this is why people suggest installing GPS Dash?
Sorry I couldn't offer any more help
Now the good news:
I now have TT6 up and running on the Exec.
I initially set it up as per the instructions that I posted but there was a problem getting the Com 0 at the top of the list in GPS Preferences in TT.
I then did the hard reset and reset all the parameters exactly as per instructions and TT linked to the GPS receiver immediately.
The one good thing about mucking about with computer bits, is the massive sense of relief when it all starts working ok.
But others have it working !!
Arejay
Thanks for your help , there are others that I am aware of that have it working though .
Appreciate that tt6 maybe unsupported though as it is a new programme whilst the XFA11i is some years old !
Thanks again
Astro1
I have a O2 Atom and an O2 XDA II and I have been able to get a Solar GPS bluetooth unit to work with both units. I didn't need to install any registry tools and don't believe that you should need to, to get this to happen correctly.
Firstly on the o2 Atom.
1. Open Bluetooth and pair to the device and check the box to have this device used as com port.
2. Click on com ports. If you already have one, click and hold to delete it. Leave screen and return to make sure that the registry has been updated. You should now have a clean com port list. Choose an incoming port as GPS doesn't need to be bi-directional. It only needs information in, not out.
3. Go to >> Settings and then >> System.
4. There is an icon for External GPS. Click it.
5. Under GPS Program port choose the com port that you created in step 2. Hardware doesn't need a port in this instance. For safety sake, change the com port speed to match that of your GPS device (normally 9600). Under >> Access tab, make sure that manage connection automatically is checked.
6. Open TT6, and tap screen >> Change Preferences >> Right >> Right and then choose Show GPS status.
7. If you need to, click the configure option choose the appropriate GPS receiver (probably Other Bluetooth and then hit select followed by continue.
8. Choose the bottom-most post of the same number that you have created. After a short pause, TT6 will return to the previous screen and all being well, you should have a GPS signal.
On the Xda II, pair as you would any Bluetooth device. As there is no External GPS link in the Settings >> System all you need to do is create the incoming port. Complete the same TT6 setting with regards to the receiver and you should be good to go.
Remember, that all GPS devices take some time to acquire data and in that time, they can appear as not connected. I find that if you power on the GPS receiver and within 60 seconds start TT6, but the time you are ready to go I have a valid GPS signal and away we go.
Good Luck.
Delta
Obtained Fuze two days ago and had a BT GPS receiver that I wanted to use. Took me two days of searching and finally trying non-intuitive procedure to get the connection to go through.
Step 1
Make a BT connection between the BT GPS receiver and Fuze.
Step 2
Afterwards go to Settings -> Bluetooth -> “COM Ports” Tab -> Select “New Outgoing Port” -> select “Telenav” -> Next -> Select “COM1” -> make sure “Secure Connection” has a tick mark -> Finish
Step 3
Fire up Live Search or whatever GPS app floats your boat.
In settings, be sure that COM1 is selected for the port.
All done.
Enjoy.
BTW: BT GPS receiver is telenav brand which I picked up from Best Buy- when I picked up it was 50 USD- on clearance, I have seen it now for 25 USD. Go get em while ya can.
Thanks for this info, it may come in handy if I wind up getting the Fuze.
Just curious, why did you want to connect an external GPS over the internal? Is battery consumption on the internal GPS higher than the BT connection? Slow to acquire fix? Not able to get a GPS fix exactly where the phone needs to be when you're using navigation software?
I didn't want to add an additional drain on the Fuze's battery by using the internal GPS receiver. From what I remember reading, an internal GPS receiver will suck up as much battery as the LCD on the device.
A BT connection should be less of a battery drain than an internal GPS drain- I'll have to look it up to confirm it.
You can use the TBattery app posted here (battery.zip)
It will give you a real time readout of current draw in mAh.. so you can compare values directly
So my FUZE with GPSone (and in airplane mode) it draws around 220mAh.
With my QStarz BT-1000X (only BT on) it draws 180mAh.
A bluetooth GPS definitely drains your battery less then the internal but is it worth the time you spent figuring out how it works?
Why don't you use a car charger to keep your phone "alive" more? That's what I do...
hmmm... when i had my Dell x51v and a BT GPS, what i had to do was
(assuming starting afresh, no other pairings)
1) Pair with authentication (enter the passkey on your BT GPS
2) Set up an outgoing COM port (usually it's COM7 or COM8)
3) Go to Settings>Hardware>External GPS
-- Internal GPS port (for GPS software) - COM4
-- Hardware GPS port (for BT GPS) ----- what you set in (2)... COM7 or COM8... BAUD rate according to your BT GPS
-- Allow auto management of GPS
4) Start your BT GPS, BT on your device, go to your GPS software and edit it to connect via COM4... if it fails, then use the com port in (2)
benefits to using BT GPS vs internal GPS on the Touch Pro
-- Tbattery says it uses 300-450mAh with a GPS software running with medium backlight... the back of the phone feels real hot... not burning hot, but hot..... you might not be able to charge the phone via the cigarette because of this extreme temp