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Com 6 Just Not Not Seen At All - Help ??

Guys - UK MDA Vario... cant get ANY GPS app to see my BT GPS. I have the Outbound port set as Com 6 but no apps can see it ( the port that is ) ... Any suggestions ?
TIA
PS tried Com 7 as well. ( and I've been working on this for 2 days now )
Terran
BTW Get a '?' next to the Bluetooth item the Qstarz BT-Q880 GPS... but it defo works on my PC.

Found this... http://www.bluetooth.jazztel.es/ - Going to give it a go...
Please download the latest version from the download area and install it. Just execute the installer. Afterwards you will find a new line for the power management on the today screen. Next time when you bond a Bluetooth device there will be an additional dialog after entering the pin and confirming the device name. Therefore you should first remove your device again if you bonded them already.
The "Today" screen
The icon on the left activates or deactivates Bluetooth. The clock symbol switches automatic power off for Bluetooth on or off. When activated (white backround as in the picture) then Bluetooth will be switch off after 60sec of inactivity.
The two battery icons on the right side let you switch between two profiles for auto power off of the PDA and the back light. For example you may switch to the second mode and adjust the settings to "always on" and "never switch back light off". Thereby you can switch the PDA with one simple to "always on" when you are in your car and want to use GPS navigation.
The profiles
Add your Bluetooth device as usual. You will get now a new dialog after the last step:
Please note that currently only the following profiles are available
Headset/Car kit Serial port ActiveSync Modem
Headset/Car kit
With this profile you may use your headset or car kit to make phone calls. Both headsets (headset profile) and car kits (handsfree profile) are supported and you may use up to 9 devices.
Bluetooth is switched on automatically on incoming calls. However it take some seconds until the connection to the headset/car kit is established. If you leave Bluetooth always on there is no delay.
The call is passed always to the device where you take the call. This means if you answer with the PDA button then the built-in speaker is used. If you used the headset button the call will be passed to the corresponding headset.
To pass the call from the PDA to the headset or from one headset to another just press button of the corresponding headset.
To hang up just press the button on the currently active headset or use the PDA button.
Obviously you can only dial via headset if you leave Bluetooth always on. The button on the headset acts like the phone button on the PDA. This means pressing it the first time switch the PDA on (if powered off) and switches to the phone application. Pressing the button again dials the last number.
Serial port
With the serial port profile you can use a device, which emulates a serial port, like a GPS receiver for example. After marking the checkbox you can select the desired port. Just click on OK and now your serial port is ready to use. Just start your application and choose the same port.
ActiveSync
Just mark the checkbox below ActiveSync and click on OK. Now start ActiveSync from the Start menu. There is now a new entry in the menu of ActiveSync to use the Bluetooth connection. Naturally this connection uses data encryption to protect your data.
Note: To use the ActiveSync connection you must identify the virtual port on your PC and configure ActiveSync accordingly.
Modem
I could not try this function because I don't have a Bluetooth modem but it should work without any problems. Just mark the checkbox and click on OK. Now your modem is ready to use.
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Terran

You probably need GPS software that is compatible with Windows Mobile 5. However, most of them are not entirely updated to support WM5 just yet. I hear some people have gotten Navigon to work, and TomTom with a huge workaround. Destinator PN5 doesn't see the COM ports. iGuidance 2.1.3 works beautifully except for the map-loader not working through ActiveSync 4.x.

try looking at this link....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29606

aliendad said:
try looking at this link....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29606
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Thanks - seen it...
Followed
STEP 4 : INSTALL TOMTOM5
1. Establish a bond with your GPS and select the checkbox for serial access.
2. In the GPS control panel, select the GPS program to 6 and make sure that the hardware one, is set to None.
4. Start TT5 and the GPS settings, select another bluetooth GPS, and you will see COM 6 free. Select COM 6 and close TT5.
5. At the GPS control panel again, now select COM (none)
6. At BT: select OUTGOING port to 6.
7. Finally start TT5 and it should connect automatically. Wait for a couple of seconds and click the GPS settings and you should see it has connected.
Manged to see the com port in Tomtom but would not get it to see the GPS.... I'm still wondering becuse of the ? next to the item under the BT Control pannel...... I'm wondering if for some reason it does not recognise this as a GPS and is refusing to talk to it.
That been said it does have serial profile and connects ok...
Terran

it is a bit strange? but officialy TomTom is not mobile 5 ready.

aliendad said:
it is a bit strange? but officialy TomTom is not mobile 5 ready.
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thats my point... its not just TT that has the issue - tried some really basic progs just to show reception and get the same... ahhhhh
Terran

tomtom doesn't need bt to be enabled on the pda, and if you forget this, (like i used to) other programs wont work if bt is not enabled on the pda

aliendad said:
tomtom doesn't need bt to be enabled on the pda, and if you forget this, (like i used to) other programs wont work if bt is not enabled on the pda
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But can you have it enabled with Tomtom ( if I follow you ? )
Terran

aliendad said:
tomtom doesn't need bt to be enabled on the pda, and if you forget this, (like i used to) other programs wont work if bt is not enabled on the pda
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This comment was usfull - I removed the BT support from Tomtom and the other progs 'VisualGPS' can now see it.... still working on Tom tom though
Terran
EDIT Yaaaa it works...
Upgraded to 5.1 and sussed... so overview for my Vairo install proceedure ( 3 days this has took lol )
Enable the GPS control pannel - but TBH I dont think you acutally need this any way
Added GPS as per prev threds ( ie Add com 6 etc )
Install Tomtom but not the BT support pack
Install the update
Set GPS settings
Job done
Terran

Bluetooth GPS want to re-pair all the time

Hi folks,
I upgraded my Hermes with Schap's Windows Mobile 6 ROM. Works fine so far. But when I try to use my Bluetooth GPS it acts strange.
I paired the Bluetooth device and set up a COM-port for the applications. The first time it works. The next time, when I switch on Bluetooth and start for example TomTom, the Hermes tells me there is a new Bluetooth device that wants to connect. I checked and found out the GPS is still in the list of known Bluetooth devices and the COM-port is set. But the assistant is still bugging until I add the "new" device. After that of course my "old" device is gone.
How can I avoid this? Anyone experiencing the same problem?

I have the same issue, really annoying so would love to know the answer

Tafkas.Net said:
Hi folks,
I upgraded my Hermes with Schap's Windows Mobile 6 ROM. Works fine so far. But when I try to use my Bluetooth GPS it acts strange.
I paired the Bluetooth device and set up a COM-port for the applications. The first time it works. The next time, when I switch on Bluetooth and start for example TomTom, the Hermes tells me there is a new Bluetooth device that wants to connect. I checked and found out the GPS is still in the list of known Bluetooth devices and the COM-port is set. But the assistant is still bugging until I add the "new" device. After that of course my "old" device is gone.
How can I avoid this? Anyone experiencing the same problem?
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On your Hermes:
Have you tried to checked off: "Make this device visible to other devices"?
Under: Start\Settings\Connections\Bluetooth\Mode (2nd tab on the bottom)
Option #1 (Hermes)
~If, "Make this device visible to other devices is not enabled, delete the pairing for your GPS.
~Check off "Make this device visible to other devices"
~Pair your GPS again (ensure that "Make this device visible to other devices" is still enabled)
Option #2 (GPS)
Don't know what kind of settings for bluetooth you may have on your GPS. I found for my car stereo, that I needed to leave it, in the "waiting/open for connection mode.
Now when I turn the car on it automatically connects the phone and stereo off my Hermes.
What I'm basically saying here is there may be a setting to leave your GPS automatically open for bluetooth connections?
I think option #1 may do the trick....
Hope this helps! Good Luck!

jac said:
On your Hermes:
Have you tried to checked off: "Make this device visible to other devices"?
Under: Start\Settings\Connections\Bluetooth\Mode (2nd tab on the bottom)
Option #1 (Hermes)
~If, "Make this device visible to other devices is not enabled, delete the pairing for your GPS.
~Check off "Make this device visible to other devices"
~Pair your GPS again (ensure that "Make this device visible to other devices" is still enabled)
Option #2 (GPS)
Don't know what kind of settings for bluetooth you may have on your GPS. I found for my car stereo, that I needed to leave it, in the "waiting/open for connection mode.
Now when I turn the car on it automatically connects the phone and stereo off my Hermes.
What I'm basically saying here is there may be a setting to leave your GPS automatically open for bluetooth connections?
I think option #1 may do the trick....
Hope this helps! Good Luck!
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Mine is set to NOT be visable to others & my bluetooth GPS device just ha a on/off button.

paul8811 said:
Mine is set to NOT be visible to others & my bluetooth GPS device just ha a on/off button.
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If your concerned about Security you can always change the Pairing codes.
and or turn off bluetooth when not needed.
I'm unaware of any cases where one can connect unless there paired, so in most cases access needs to be allowed on both ends, usually needing pairing codes. Even if it is one way, an approval code will still be needed.
What I found is this, if you want automatic connecting with one way pairing codes i.e. (Car Stereo to PDA or GPS to PDA) You'll need to allow "make device visible" checked off. The usual cause is a memory storing issue with the GPS or Car Stereo. I know that on high end Stereo's and GPS's they have on board memory which will save connection settings, where you'd put pairing codes on both ends and it will save the settings, thus negating the need to leave visible.
Don't know if I answered your question?
Hope I was able to shed some light on the subject....
Good Luck!

TomTom6 + Solar Bluetooth GPS receiver

Hi,
I have got a XDA exec with Tomtom6 and a Solar Bluetooth GPS receiver...I am able to pair the device with my PDA and am also able to configure and define incoming and outgoing ports...COM 8 for incoming and COM 4 for outgoing....when I try and go to my tomtom software the only option which I get is to select the GPS type, in order to configure the device....and after selecting it keeps connecting to GPS device and nothing happens....I have even tried with Incoming (COM4) and Outgoing (COM8) and even with COM0 settings for COM ports within XDA, but to my bad luck I am not able to connect to the GPS device....can someone kindly help me with the above please
thanks

I have the same set up with the same problem. I have been told that port allocation & therefore GPS recognition is a known problem although TomTom tell you that there are no conflicts with the Exec & TT6. I have been informed that it is necessary to either download a program called GPS Dash or make changes in registry but I cannot find an idiots guide of what to do. Any help would be much appreciated before both the Exec & TT get thrown out the window.

I put a posting on a Radio Control forum that I subscribe to RCMF.co.uk as there are quite a number of very knowledgeable folks that frequent the site.
This is a reply that I received today from a guy who I think works for O2 and he has agreed to me posting her.
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Now then..... Bit of a complicated one this
Courtesy of our device specialists
First step:
You will need to install a registry editor. They’re available from various websites, I suggest Googling “Pocket PC registry editor”, but we can’t guarantee the reliability of third party software.
· On the XDA Exec, Go to Start > Programs and then load the newly installed registry editor.
· NB: This has to be done exactly as below in order for it to work:
Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings
Delete the DWORD marked "hide"
Add a new DWORD called "Group" and give it the value of "2" (dec)
NOTE: There are different types of keys you can add, you must make sure you add a DWORD, Click it so the values entry appears then add the value 2 as described above.
· Exit the Registry editor.
· Select Start > Settings. Then go to connections using the tabs at the bottom of the settings screen.
· The GPS panel should now show up in connection settings.
Next:
· After the Bluetooth receiver has been paired with the device, you’ll need to do the following:
· In Bluetooth Settings, select COM Ports tab at the bottom > New Outgoing Port > [Choose GPS Receiver], click Next then select the OUTGOING port to 8. Click Finish. Select OK (top right corner)
· Go to Start > Settings > Connections and open the GPS control panel, select the GPS program port to COM 0 then click Hardware tab. Set Hardware port to “None”. Select OK (top right)
· Start TomTom, Click Preferences then GPS settings, select “Other Bluetooth GPS”, and COM 0 should be at the top of the list (Important: IF “COM 0” is not in the list, you will need to hard reset the device, ensuring your contacts and saved files are backed up beforehand. It may then be necessary to begin this process again after re-installing TomTom). Select COM 0 as the GPS Port and then exit TomTom. (Make sure you fully exit the program so it’s no longer running)
· Go to Start > Settings > Connections and open the GPS control panel again, now select COM 8 in the Programs section (the one we set up as “0” previously). Select OK (top right).
· Open Bluetooth again in the connection settings menu and go back to COM Ports. Select GPS Receiver by holding the stylus down on the word and selecting edit then change the outgoing port from “Port 8” to “Port 0”. Select Finish, then Select OK (top right).
· Go back to Start > Settings > Connections and open the GPS control panel again and in the Programs port select NONE.
Select OK (top right), then OK again to close settings menu.
· Finally start TomTom and the GPS receiver should connect automatically. Wait for a couple of seconds and click the GPS settings and it should be connected.
The port settings shouldn’t be changed after this point, or the process above may need to be repeated, so the customer should now steer clear of the GPS settings.
If the device experiences issues connecting to GPS, you should ensure the GPS receiver is powered up and then exit TomTom and restart it. If this doesn’t resolve, a soft reset may be needed.
GPS Dash can be downloaded from www.gpsdash.com, but we aren't aware that this needs to be added first – you should try the above before installing, we can’t offer support upon, or guarantee the reliability of GPS Dash or any other third party applications.
Hope this helps.
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I will be trying this probably next week so will let you know if I have any success.

What about the poor old XDA11i ??
Arejay
I have been fumbelling around for ages trying to get TT6 to work on an XD11i .
I know that it is possible as there are members on line who tell me they have it running !!.
I am trying to get a bluetooth reiciever to talk to TT6 but getting no where .
Dont suppose you could ask your friend if there is a XDA11i fix as well ?
I just get the No GPS Device all the time despite the two items talking ( lots of flashing on the Reciever led )
Best regards
Astro1

Hi Astro
Excuse my ignorance but I assume that the XD11i is an O2 product. If it is I`ll certainly ask the question.

XDA11i
Hi Arejay
Yes the XDA11i is an o2 product with a great spec but no longer supported as newer models now availiable ( aka exec/ orbit etc ) it is an HTC device 2020i but has never been converted to wm5 so getting left behind.
Thanks in advance for you help , getting very frustrated here!
Astro1

Received a reply from another guy who I know to be very knowledgeable on most things to do with PC`s etc.
Try this solution
After pairing your gps reciever go to tomtoms satellite config and select "other cable" rather than bluetooth. Select a speed (start at 2400 and work up) then when it asks for the port select the bluetooth port. there may be two ports so you will have to suck it and see but this is the solution I used on my SPV M2000 which is an XDAIIs. When you find the right port and your reciever connects you can try it again but with different com port speeds.
I expect I will get another reply soon and I`ll post t here.

Tried , crashed and burned ( well not quite)
Arejay
I spent the afternoon going through all of the tom tom settings , leaving it a while between each.
After pairing I started Tom tom and went to the buetooth and the other nema settings( within the tt6 change preferences / gps section ).
One at a time I went through the offered port numbers.
By choosing any setting that was not port 6 the GPS reciever turned to stand by , going back to port 6 and it came to life again .( this was the case with both " other bluetooth and other nema " choices.)
With either choice and port 6 selected there was a lot of Bluetooth activity but at no time did TT6 like the choice ( little blue/ yellow disk doesnt spin) or at any time did the GPS find as satalite .
Using either of the two remaining choices tom tom( wireless or wired ) had the same effect ( turned the GPS off) .
With the other two setting choices I ran through the possible speeds but this made no difference .
TT6 continues to say "No GPS Device " which is short for not paired or set up correctly .
Any help here greatfully appreciated , getting to my wits end. ( wonder if I have brought a duff GPS unit ? but then why the activity when port 6 is selected ? )
Checking in Bluetooth settings the outgoing port stated ( cant be changed ) is port 6 !
XDA11i is a wm2003se device .
I have had no joy getting other programmes to talk to the gps either ?
Astro1

First the bad news:
Astro - Quote from O2 guy
We are at a loss here to be honest, TT is an unsupported app so it
may be that it's the application that is causing the problems rather
than the GPS itself.
I think this is why people suggest installing GPS Dash?
Sorry I couldn't offer any more help
Now the good news:
I now have TT6 up and running on the Exec.
I initially set it up as per the instructions that I posted but there was a problem getting the Com 0 at the top of the list in GPS Preferences in TT.
I then did the hard reset and reset all the parameters exactly as per instructions and TT linked to the GPS receiver immediately.
The one good thing about mucking about with computer bits, is the massive sense of relief when it all starts working ok.

But others have it working !!
Arejay
Thanks for your help , there are others that I am aware of that have it working though .
Appreciate that tt6 maybe unsupported though as it is a new programme whilst the XFA11i is some years old !
Thanks again
Astro1

I have a O2 Atom and an O2 XDA II and I have been able to get a Solar GPS bluetooth unit to work with both units. I didn't need to install any registry tools and don't believe that you should need to, to get this to happen correctly.
Firstly on the o2 Atom.
1. Open Bluetooth and pair to the device and check the box to have this device used as com port.
2. Click on com ports. If you already have one, click and hold to delete it. Leave screen and return to make sure that the registry has been updated. You should now have a clean com port list. Choose an incoming port as GPS doesn't need to be bi-directional. It only needs information in, not out.
3. Go to >> Settings and then >> System.
4. There is an icon for External GPS. Click it.
5. Under GPS Program port choose the com port that you created in step 2. Hardware doesn't need a port in this instance. For safety sake, change the com port speed to match that of your GPS device (normally 9600). Under >> Access tab, make sure that manage connection automatically is checked.
6. Open TT6, and tap screen >> Change Preferences >> Right >> Right and then choose Show GPS status.
7. If you need to, click the configure option choose the appropriate GPS receiver (probably Other Bluetooth and then hit select followed by continue.
8. Choose the bottom-most post of the same number that you have created. After a short pause, TT6 will return to the previous screen and all being well, you should have a GPS signal.
On the Xda II, pair as you would any Bluetooth device. As there is no External GPS link in the Settings >> System all you need to do is create the incoming port. Complete the same TT6 setting with regards to the receiver and you should be good to go.
Remember, that all GPS devices take some time to acquire data and in that time, they can appear as not connected. I find that if you power on the GPS receiver and within 60 seconds start TT6, but the time you are ready to go I have a valid GPS signal and away we go.
Good Luck.
Delta

HTC X7500 - can't connect to two GPS antenna for topographic relief

Hello, my name is Manolo and i'm a surveyor. I'm trying to use my HTC X7500 as a data controller for topographic relief. I own two Topcon hiper pro gps antennas than can communicate with a controller via bluetooth or RS232 cable.
My problem is that when i connect via bluetooth the athena x7500 to the gps antennas, it can see both of them, but it can't hold always the to connections separate at the same time. 99,9% of times i belive the athena connected first to one gps antenna and second to the other one, but at the end i understand it gets the signal only from one. So, to bypass the problem i tryied to connect the athena to one gps via rs232+usb adapter and the other one via bluetooth, but i can't get the rs232 connection. It seems that only Hp ipaq hx series can handle the rs232 connections.
Any suggestions?
Any software that manage bluetooth connections?
typical data controllers: http://www.data-collectors.com/index.html
topcon instruments:http://global.topcon.com/positioning/index.html
Thanks,
Manolo

I don't know if this is relevent, but here is a hint...
When I used to have a bluetooth gps antenna, I had to set up an outgoing com port dedicated to this antenna.
Have you created two different outgoing ports in the bluetooth options, one for each antenna ?

The guy on this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=515103 - found a usb-to-serial solution for his problem. Maybe he could help you. He also mentions some sort of hardware/driver he's used.
Hope this helps.

Thank you MysterD for answering.
Yes, i tryed to give a different COM to gps antennas, but with no success.
For working with this GPS antennas Topcon gives you also a PPC/Controller (named FC 100), with the antennas. So, HTC 7500 should be an emergency controller that i bought when the original controller got broken and i sent it to the assistance.
So, i checked the Software settings on the original Controller, and it connects on the antennas via bluetooth always on COM8. Yes, same port for both the antennas!
Infact, when i start the software:
1) it scans for bluetooth devices
2) i select the first antenna (a base antenna that i live in a point and don't move it)
3) it disconnect from the first antenna
4) it scans again for bluetooth devices
5) i select the second antenna (rover antenna, that i bring with me during the mesuraments)
6) the software goes into a mesurament menu and o start working.
On the HTC i must search the devices first and than start the software. That's the problem! If i give the same COM8 at both bluetooth devices at the same time, HTC gets confused.

Thank you Wovens.
I'm gonna try the drivers. Let's see if they work!

And there's no place in your software that would enable setting that first antenna should use port COMX and the second one COMY ?
Also, have you tried disabling the feature that lets Windows Mobile manage the GPS ?
On my Diamond, i go to Start > Settings > System > External GPS ("GPS Externe" on my French rom) > Access tab ("Accès", the third tab...) > Uncheck the only option on the tab (manage GPS automatically "Gérer GPS automatiquement" ...).

Yep, i think i already tried, but i'll try again and let you know it tomorrow.
Thanks

Okay,
assigning different ports to bluetooth devices seems working. But there is always something wrong: i can't start mesuring when i get into the mesure page. i don't know, i'll try to figure it out. Thanks anyway.
To connect the cable to the athena i probably need a driver for windows mobile. I'll try to find it.
Thank you very much guys,
Manolo

You're welcome.
Let us know if you succeed in getting your measures done !

GPS on iPad Wifi with an HD2 and GPS2Blue?

Hi,
I just bought an iPad wifi (the version without GPS).
Now I'm trying to get the GPS to work using BTStack GPS on the iPad and GPS2Blue on my HD2.
I can get the iPad to connect to my HD2, however there arent any information transfered to the ipad. It just says connected, but without any satelite information.
Now the app on the iPad works fine with a regular bluetooth gps dongle. So I'm thinking that there is something I've missed in the settings in GPS2Blue.
Has anyone tried anything like this before?
I'm using gps2blue version 2.0, with the gps on com4 and bluetooth on com6.
Any help is really appriciated.
/Erik

Hello,
I had the same issues trying to figure out how to get gps2blue to work. I finally got it to work by changing a particular setting. Here are the steps:
1) Go to Settings > All Settings
2) Go to Bluetooth
3) Tap on Discoverable (right above "Advanced")
4) Make sure that the it's set to "Always Visible"
5) Under the "Advanced" section, click on "Serial Ports". You should see that COM1 is set to the incoming port. This is the port we should use in the GPS2blue settings for the bluetooth.
I configured gps2blue like this:
GPS: COM4
Speed: 4800
BT: COM1
Hit the "On" button and you will might still see an error. This is ok, try your iPad or your bluetooth device and you should see your HD2/LEO. Select it and it should prompt you to create a passkey. Just use 0000 and the prompt will appear on your iPad.
I hope this helps. For some reason the "Discoverable" section didn't appear for me (or I didn't notice it) until I did this:
1) Turn off bluetooth
2) Restart device
3) Turn on bluetooth using the settings in settings>allsettings>bluetooth (the bluetooth icon looks different at the top of the device now too).
-leonowski

Is this also applicable on the HTC Diamond?

I have bought one from everbuying.com last month .There is no problem with it all the time.