TomTom6 + Solar Bluetooth GPS receiver

TomTom6 + Solar Bluetooth GPS receiver - Networking

Hi,
I have got a XDA exec with Tomtom6 and a Solar Bluetooth GPS receiver...I am able to pair the device with my PDA and am also able to configure and define incoming and outgoing ports...COM 8 for incoming and COM 4 for outgoing....when I try and go to my tomtom software the only option which I get is to select the GPS type, in order to configure the device....and after selecting it keeps connecting to GPS device and nothing happens....I have even tried with Incoming (COM4) and Outgoing (COM8) and even with COM0 settings for COM ports within XDA, but to my bad luck I am not able to connect to the GPS device....can someone kindly help me with the above please
thanks

I have the same set up with the same problem. I have been told that port allocation & therefore GPS recognition is a known problem although TomTom tell you that there are no conflicts with the Exec & TT6. I have been informed that it is necessary to either download a program called GPS Dash or make changes in registry but I cannot find an idiots guide of what to do. Any help would be much appreciated before both the Exec & TT get thrown out the window.

I put a posting on a Radio Control forum that I subscribe to RCMF.co.uk as there are quite a number of very knowledgeable folks that frequent the site.
This is a reply that I received today from a guy who I think works for O2 and he has agreed to me posting her.
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Now then..... Bit of a complicated one this
Courtesy of our device specialists
First step:
You will need to install a registry editor. They’re available from various websites, I suggest Googling “Pocket PC registry editor”, but we can’t guarantee the reliability of third party software.
· On the XDA Exec, Go to Start > Programs and then load the newly installed registry editor.
· NB: This has to be done exactly as below in order for it to work:
Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings
Delete the DWORD marked "hide"
Add a new DWORD called "Group" and give it the value of "2" (dec)
NOTE: There are different types of keys you can add, you must make sure you add a DWORD, Click it so the values entry appears then add the value 2 as described above.
· Exit the Registry editor.
· Select Start > Settings. Then go to connections using the tabs at the bottom of the settings screen.
· The GPS panel should now show up in connection settings.
Next:
· After the Bluetooth receiver has been paired with the device, you’ll need to do the following:
· In Bluetooth Settings, select COM Ports tab at the bottom > New Outgoing Port > [Choose GPS Receiver], click Next then select the OUTGOING port to 8. Click Finish. Select OK (top right corner)
· Go to Start > Settings > Connections and open the GPS control panel, select the GPS program port to COM 0 then click Hardware tab. Set Hardware port to “None”. Select OK (top right)
· Start TomTom, Click Preferences then GPS settings, select “Other Bluetooth GPS”, and COM 0 should be at the top of the list (Important: IF “COM 0” is not in the list, you will need to hard reset the device, ensuring your contacts and saved files are backed up beforehand. It may then be necessary to begin this process again after re-installing TomTom). Select COM 0 as the GPS Port and then exit TomTom. (Make sure you fully exit the program so it’s no longer running)
· Go to Start > Settings > Connections and open the GPS control panel again, now select COM 8 in the Programs section (the one we set up as “0” previously). Select OK (top right).
· Open Bluetooth again in the connection settings menu and go back to COM Ports. Select GPS Receiver by holding the stylus down on the word and selecting edit then change the outgoing port from “Port 8” to “Port 0”. Select Finish, then Select OK (top right).
· Go back to Start > Settings > Connections and open the GPS control panel again and in the Programs port select NONE.
Select OK (top right), then OK again to close settings menu.
· Finally start TomTom and the GPS receiver should connect automatically. Wait for a couple of seconds and click the GPS settings and it should be connected.
The port settings shouldn’t be changed after this point, or the process above may need to be repeated, so the customer should now steer clear of the GPS settings.
If the device experiences issues connecting to GPS, you should ensure the GPS receiver is powered up and then exit TomTom and restart it. If this doesn’t resolve, a soft reset may be needed.
GPS Dash can be downloaded from www.gpsdash.com, but we aren't aware that this needs to be added first – you should try the above before installing, we can’t offer support upon, or guarantee the reliability of GPS Dash or any other third party applications.
Hope this helps.
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I will be trying this probably next week so will let you know if I have any success.

What about the poor old XDA11i ??
Arejay
I have been fumbelling around for ages trying to get TT6 to work on an XD11i .
I know that it is possible as there are members on line who tell me they have it running !!.
I am trying to get a bluetooth reiciever to talk to TT6 but getting no where .
Dont suppose you could ask your friend if there is a XDA11i fix as well ?
I just get the No GPS Device all the time despite the two items talking ( lots of flashing on the Reciever led )
Best regards
Astro1

Hi Astro
Excuse my ignorance but I assume that the XD11i is an O2 product. If it is I`ll certainly ask the question.

XDA11i
Hi Arejay
Yes the XDA11i is an o2 product with a great spec but no longer supported as newer models now availiable ( aka exec/ orbit etc ) it is an HTC device 2020i but has never been converted to wm5 so getting left behind.
Thanks in advance for you help , getting very frustrated here!
Astro1

Received a reply from another guy who I know to be very knowledgeable on most things to do with PC`s etc.
Try this solution
After pairing your gps reciever go to tomtoms satellite config and select "other cable" rather than bluetooth. Select a speed (start at 2400 and work up) then when it asks for the port select the bluetooth port. there may be two ports so you will have to suck it and see but this is the solution I used on my SPV M2000 which is an XDAIIs. When you find the right port and your reciever connects you can try it again but with different com port speeds.
I expect I will get another reply soon and I`ll post t here.

Tried , crashed and burned ( well not quite)
Arejay
I spent the afternoon going through all of the tom tom settings , leaving it a while between each.
After pairing I started Tom tom and went to the buetooth and the other nema settings( within the tt6 change preferences / gps section ).
One at a time I went through the offered port numbers.
By choosing any setting that was not port 6 the GPS reciever turned to stand by , going back to port 6 and it came to life again .( this was the case with both " other bluetooth and other nema " choices.)
With either choice and port 6 selected there was a lot of Bluetooth activity but at no time did TT6 like the choice ( little blue/ yellow disk doesnt spin) or at any time did the GPS find as satalite .
Using either of the two remaining choices tom tom( wireless or wired ) had the same effect ( turned the GPS off) .
With the other two setting choices I ran through the possible speeds but this made no difference .
TT6 continues to say "No GPS Device " which is short for not paired or set up correctly .
Any help here greatfully appreciated , getting to my wits end. ( wonder if I have brought a duff GPS unit ? but then why the activity when port 6 is selected ? )
Checking in Bluetooth settings the outgoing port stated ( cant be changed ) is port 6 !
XDA11i is a wm2003se device .
I have had no joy getting other programmes to talk to the gps either ?
Astro1

First the bad news:
Astro - Quote from O2 guy
We are at a loss here to be honest, TT is an unsupported app so it
may be that it's the application that is causing the problems rather
than the GPS itself.
I think this is why people suggest installing GPS Dash?
Sorry I couldn't offer any more help
Now the good news:
I now have TT6 up and running on the Exec.
I initially set it up as per the instructions that I posted but there was a problem getting the Com 0 at the top of the list in GPS Preferences in TT.
I then did the hard reset and reset all the parameters exactly as per instructions and TT linked to the GPS receiver immediately.
The one good thing about mucking about with computer bits, is the massive sense of relief when it all starts working ok.

But others have it working !!
Arejay
Thanks for your help , there are others that I am aware of that have it working though .
Appreciate that tt6 maybe unsupported though as it is a new programme whilst the XFA11i is some years old !
Thanks again
Astro1

I have a O2 Atom and an O2 XDA II and I have been able to get a Solar GPS bluetooth unit to work with both units. I didn't need to install any registry tools and don't believe that you should need to, to get this to happen correctly.
Firstly on the o2 Atom.
1. Open Bluetooth and pair to the device and check the box to have this device used as com port.
2. Click on com ports. If you already have one, click and hold to delete it. Leave screen and return to make sure that the registry has been updated. You should now have a clean com port list. Choose an incoming port as GPS doesn't need to be bi-directional. It only needs information in, not out.
3. Go to >> Settings and then >> System.
4. There is an icon for External GPS. Click it.
5. Under GPS Program port choose the com port that you created in step 2. Hardware doesn't need a port in this instance. For safety sake, change the com port speed to match that of your GPS device (normally 9600). Under >> Access tab, make sure that manage connection automatically is checked.
6. Open TT6, and tap screen >> Change Preferences >> Right >> Right and then choose Show GPS status.
7. If you need to, click the configure option choose the appropriate GPS receiver (probably Other Bluetooth and then hit select followed by continue.
8. Choose the bottom-most post of the same number that you have created. After a short pause, TT6 will return to the previous screen and all being well, you should have a GPS signal.
On the Xda II, pair as you would any Bluetooth device. As there is no External GPS link in the Settings >> System all you need to do is create the incoming port. Complete the same TT6 setting with regards to the receiver and you should be good to go.
Remember, that all GPS devices take some time to acquire data and in that time, they can appear as not connected. I find that if you power on the GPS receiver and within 60 seconds start TT6, but the time you are ready to go I have a valid GPS signal and away we go.
Good Luck.
Delta

Related

Also need help width Navman and XDA 2

I have synchronised the Navman 4400 with the Ipaq 2210 with relative ease. However, I am having tremendous difficulty synchronising the Navman with the XDA 2. I have upgraded the ROM on the XDA and done everything as outlined in the instructions (below) from the Navman web site. My difficulty is, if referring to 2 d below, that I only have the option to select from COM 7 in the dropdown. When I go to use the navigation software (Smart St or Memory Map) I dont have the option to select COM 7 in the GPS setup. I am about to throw in the towel and would appreciate suggestions from any quarter.
1. Download the following two files:
a. BTHTools1012.zip <http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/BTHTools1012.zip>
b. EnableCharPin.zip <http://www.navman-europe.com/do_download.php?id=AA005403&download=26>
2. Follow the instructions below:
a. Run the BT-patch (see 1.a) from your PC and copy the EnableCharPin.exe (see 1.b) to your PDA. Remember the location where you copied it.
b. Start bonding the 4100 or 4400/4410.
c. When asked to enter a PIN, run the EnableCharPin application. Close all dialogs until you get back to PIN-dialog and enter "NAVMAN" (all capitals).
d. When new dialog pops up, choose COM and select port 4 in dropdown. The 4100 or 4400/4410 should be bonded and ready to go "hardware-wise"
e. Soft-reset your PDA.
f. Start SmartST and configure the GPS. From the main menu goto GPS STATUS. Select port 4 which will be in the list of available COM-ports and select 57600 voor cummunication speed. Now tick the GPS box.

I have no idea why it doesnt work for you but dont give up yet, go to the following link and download the latest version of bluetooth tools, the navman patch is there also.
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html

Finally, after yet another hard reset the problem is solved. After reinstalling the patch, I still only had the option to select COM 7. However, the Smart ST and Memory Map software both had the COM 7 option. All is well. Thank you for your assistance. This is a very informative and helpful forum.

Hi I also have problems with getting my 1 day old XDA II & Navman 4400 to work together, I have ipaq 2210 & navman working fine. So far i have downloaded the BT tools & EnableCharPin. Installed BT tools that's ok But when try to copy the EnableCharPin.exe to my XDA and then run it it gives the error "no application associated with enablecharpin". Then if i run the file from my pc & sync the program to the XDA it installs but i cant find it to run it!!. I know it has installed because if i go to remove programs it's in the list.
SOMEONE PLEASE HELP where i'm going wrong!.

you don't need to run it
after installtion (through PC)
try to pair with the Navman
this time you'll be able to insert NAVMAN as pairing code

Still Not working
I have now tried everything, hard reset, reinstall SmartST, BT tools & enablecharpin, start bonding still not getting any characters to type "NAVMAN" in. Even tried another PC to do the install incase it was my winXP laptop causing the problems, but it still doesn't work. I'm running 1.60.00WWE/1.60.50 rom anyone got this working with this combination?. The whole reason i bought XDAII was to have Phone/Pda/SAT Nav on one device and get rid of the others. Looks like it ain't gonna happen. Do I need any other Rom upgrade or anything else? or can some reccomend another SAT Nav solution that will work with XDAII without the hassle?.

SUCSESS!!
Tried whole proccedure again, this time a was able to type NAVMAN in and bond with the 4400!. But now the only com port it will bond with is COM7 and COM7 is not an option of the ports listed in SmartST Navman software!!. Anyone got round this?.

I have same problem with COM7 and a different Bluetooth GPS.
Bottom line I have found is that the only COM port I can assign when pairing is COM 7. Dunno why and have never seen any one else with this until now.
Nor have I seen a workaround for it.
((seems strange that one can have the ability to select multiple COM ports with a drop down list, but only ever having one to choose from))

I have same problem with COM7 and a different Bluetooth GPS.
Bottom line I have found is that the only COM port I can assign when pairing is COM 7. Dunno why and have never seen any one else with this until now.
Nor have I seen a workaround for it.
((seems strange that one can have the ability to select multiple COM ports with a drop down list, but only ever having one to choose from))

Hi All,
Thanks for all your help I have had everything working now for the last few days and is working better than it was on my ipaq!. So now have all-in-one solution i've been looking for!.
I was able to get SmartST software and XDA II to work using COM7 after I deleted my previous bonding with NAVMAN & restarted it. All working perfectly now.
Thanks again.

[Hi guys,I'm a new member here.
I got a O2 XDA II and already installed SmatSt V 2.0. When I extract and install the BTHTools1012.exe into my XDA, I check the folder Pocket Bluetooth Tools in my XDA but I did not see any thing there. So that I can't bond to find the NAVMAN GPS.Any thing wrong with that BTHTools1012.
Another thing is the EnableCharPin.It said it not a application for Pcket Pc when I click on that in my XDA.

click and run enable character pin on the PC and allow it to sync using add remove programs.
delete any previous bonding, and re do the pairing with the GPS and the XDAII once installed.
there is nothing wrong with not being able to see the contents, it should still work.
its been a while since I did this (1.5yrs on this device)
ALSO, FOR THOSE USING THIS, I HAD SERIOUS AND EXTENSIVE DIFFICULTIES USING THIS SETUP RUNNING WM2003SE, SO SHOW CAUTION WHEN UPGRADING.

it's arrived!

just a quick first impression's (will do more this evening)
i have large hands and this fells better to hold
the on/off is on top instead of the side (better i think)
when first started you are asked your phone provider, and cab files are install for there settings. (great)
also did not have to hit cross hair in middle twice, ( as was mensioned as bug in another message

got mine today also.
thought it was slightly fatter than i was expecting. but i had never seen a jam before having had a M1000/himalaya and being used to the relatively thinness of that.
half tempted to hard reset and not install the AV crap that gets installed as apparently that slows it down (also 20mb ram being used when nothing is apparently running) not sure why we got AV software when its invisable to the user and it isnt updated.
more from me later too
just need a cheap bluetooth gps and a 1gb mem card.... anyone know best place to buy (cheap)?

Pray tell more about the AV stuff. What exactly?

No AV on Mine ??

av stuff?
not sure what you mean? :?:

Antivirus.

Trend AV is installed when you first boot or when you hard reset. For some reason any trace of it running or being installed. but apparently it causes some slowdown
some more on it
http://pocketpcdubai.infopop.cc/gro...41068401/m/8821053801/r/7261095801#7261095801

did not see it happen on mine,
whilst here like the hard reset. it's great

Congrats!!! Aliendad and thefunkygibbon on your new acquisition. May you enjoy your new toy in good health.
Please do comment on the speed of this unit as much has been said regarding the 195MHz processor. Specially if you run some processor intensive applications such as Planmaker or TextMaker.
Would love to more on your experiences.
Regards

thank you for your good wishes, keyboard is great for test sending to early for speed tests trying to install tomtom bt gps not detected yet but i know there is an answer here somewhere?

from i-mate's site..
Q: How do I use my device as a Satellite Navigation receiver?
Please follow these steps.
1. Switch on your Bluetooth GPS receiver, making sure that it is within your K-JAM range (<10m). Please confirm that your GPS receiver has sufficient battery and it is ready to bond. Also make sure that Bluetooth is enabled on your K-JAM (Start > Settings > Connections > Bluetooth > Mode > Turn on Bluetooth).
2. Setup a partnership bond with the device. To do that, select Start > Settings > Connections > Bluetooth > Devices on your K-JAM and click on New Partnership. After a few seconds the list of discoverable Bluetooth devices will be displayed. Your GPS receiver should be listed there. If not please check step 1.
3. Select your GPS receiver from the list and click Next. You will be prompted to enter the predefined Bluetooth passkey used by your device (typically 0000 but it could be a different code so please confirm with your GPS receiver documentation).
4. The Partnership Settings menu will be presented to you. A "Serial Port" or "GPS" service should be offered by the GPS receiver. Please mark the relevant checkbox and click Finish.
5. At this point you will have to associate and Outgoing Port to that device. On your K-JAM go to Start> Settings > Connections >Bluetooth > COM ports and select "New Outgoing Port". Your GPS device should be listed in the device list. Select it and click Next. Then select any of the COM ports not yet reserved by your device (your K-JAM normally reserves some of these ports for infrared or serial communications). One by one Select each possible COM port (clicking Finish) until the system accepts the selection (typically COM4 and COM8 are available for the user).
6. At this point the GPS device is ready for usage. You can now open any Navigation tool that you may have installed on your device and follow the GPS setup procedure specified in the application user manual (typically it involves defining the COM number assigned in step 5 as the GPS communication port).
cant test myself as i dont have one yet. let me know how you get on as i need one asap.

Com 6 Just Not Not Seen At All - Help ??

Guys - UK MDA Vario... cant get ANY GPS app to see my BT GPS. I have the Outbound port set as Com 6 but no apps can see it ( the port that is ) ... Any suggestions ?
TIA
PS tried Com 7 as well. ( and I've been working on this for 2 days now )
Terran
BTW Get a '?' next to the Bluetooth item the Qstarz BT-Q880 GPS... but it defo works on my PC.

Found this... http://www.bluetooth.jazztel.es/ - Going to give it a go...
Please download the latest version from the download area and install it. Just execute the installer. Afterwards you will find a new line for the power management on the today screen. Next time when you bond a Bluetooth device there will be an additional dialog after entering the pin and confirming the device name. Therefore you should first remove your device again if you bonded them already.
The "Today" screen
The icon on the left activates or deactivates Bluetooth. The clock symbol switches automatic power off for Bluetooth on or off. When activated (white backround as in the picture) then Bluetooth will be switch off after 60sec of inactivity.
The two battery icons on the right side let you switch between two profiles for auto power off of the PDA and the back light. For example you may switch to the second mode and adjust the settings to "always on" and "never switch back light off". Thereby you can switch the PDA with one simple to "always on" when you are in your car and want to use GPS navigation.
The profiles
Add your Bluetooth device as usual. You will get now a new dialog after the last step:
Please note that currently only the following profiles are available
Headset/Car kit Serial port ActiveSync Modem
Headset/Car kit
With this profile you may use your headset or car kit to make phone calls. Both headsets (headset profile) and car kits (handsfree profile) are supported and you may use up to 9 devices.
Bluetooth is switched on automatically on incoming calls. However it take some seconds until the connection to the headset/car kit is established. If you leave Bluetooth always on there is no delay.
The call is passed always to the device where you take the call. This means if you answer with the PDA button then the built-in speaker is used. If you used the headset button the call will be passed to the corresponding headset.
To pass the call from the PDA to the headset or from one headset to another just press button of the corresponding headset.
To hang up just press the button on the currently active headset or use the PDA button.
Obviously you can only dial via headset if you leave Bluetooth always on. The button on the headset acts like the phone button on the PDA. This means pressing it the first time switch the PDA on (if powered off) and switches to the phone application. Pressing the button again dials the last number.
Serial port
With the serial port profile you can use a device, which emulates a serial port, like a GPS receiver for example. After marking the checkbox you can select the desired port. Just click on OK and now your serial port is ready to use. Just start your application and choose the same port.
ActiveSync
Just mark the checkbox below ActiveSync and click on OK. Now start ActiveSync from the Start menu. There is now a new entry in the menu of ActiveSync to use the Bluetooth connection. Naturally this connection uses data encryption to protect your data.
Note: To use the ActiveSync connection you must identify the virtual port on your PC and configure ActiveSync accordingly.
Modem
I could not try this function because I don't have a Bluetooth modem but it should work without any problems. Just mark the checkbox and click on OK. Now your modem is ready to use.
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Terran

You probably need GPS software that is compatible with Windows Mobile 5. However, most of them are not entirely updated to support WM5 just yet. I hear some people have gotten Navigon to work, and TomTom with a huge workaround. Destinator PN5 doesn't see the COM ports. iGuidance 2.1.3 works beautifully except for the map-loader not working through ActiveSync 4.x.

try looking at this link....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29606

aliendad said:
try looking at this link....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29606
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Thanks - seen it...
Followed
STEP 4 : INSTALL TOMTOM5
1. Establish a bond with your GPS and select the checkbox for serial access.
2. In the GPS control panel, select the GPS program to 6 and make sure that the hardware one, is set to None.
4. Start TT5 and the GPS settings, select another bluetooth GPS, and you will see COM 6 free. Select COM 6 and close TT5.
5. At the GPS control panel again, now select COM (none)
6. At BT: select OUTGOING port to 6.
7. Finally start TT5 and it should connect automatically. Wait for a couple of seconds and click the GPS settings and you should see it has connected.
Manged to see the com port in Tomtom but would not get it to see the GPS.... I'm still wondering becuse of the ? next to the item under the BT Control pannel...... I'm wondering if for some reason it does not recognise this as a GPS and is refusing to talk to it.
That been said it does have serial profile and connects ok...
Terran

it is a bit strange? but officialy TomTom is not mobile 5 ready.

aliendad said:
it is a bit strange? but officialy TomTom is not mobile 5 ready.
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thats my point... its not just TT that has the issue - tried some really basic progs just to show reception and get the same... ahhhhh
Terran

tomtom doesn't need bt to be enabled on the pda, and if you forget this, (like i used to) other programs wont work if bt is not enabled on the pda

aliendad said:
tomtom doesn't need bt to be enabled on the pda, and if you forget this, (like i used to) other programs wont work if bt is not enabled on the pda
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But can you have it enabled with Tomtom ( if I follow you ? )
Terran

aliendad said:
tomtom doesn't need bt to be enabled on the pda, and if you forget this, (like i used to) other programs wont work if bt is not enabled on the pda
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This comment was usfull - I removed the BT support from Tomtom and the other progs 'VisualGPS' can now see it.... still working on Tom tom though
Terran
EDIT Yaaaa it works...
Upgraded to 5.1 and sussed... so overview for my Vairo install proceedure ( 3 days this has took lol )
Enable the GPS control pannel - but TBH I dont think you acutally need this any way
Added GPS as per prev threds ( ie Add com 6 etc )
Install Tomtom but not the BT support pack
Install the update
Set GPS settings
Job done
Terran

Help, no GPS!

Having updated the ROM via HTC's website ( version 1.23.405.103 ) on my P3600 and installing Trinityhacks, I still cannot get the GPS icon to appear ( let alone the GPS itself) in the SETTINGS;SYSTEM menu, it only began to appear in the CONNECTIONS menu after i installed Trinityhacks.
I have 2 GPS programs (one of which is TOMTOM) which are installed and working perfectly, the only problem is that the GPS is not, and i can't figure out why! Please help,
Thanks

You don't need the GPS Setting CPL unless you want to change the default settings, which for most apps shouldn't be necessary.
Make sure in TomTom, you set the GPS prefs to Built-IN GPS Receiver (if you are on V6.03) or Other NMEA Receiver (NOT Other NMEA Bluetooth Receiver) if you use any earlier version.
COM port must be set to COM9 and Baud to 57600.
Once those are set, the GPS screen within TomTom should show a small revolving icon in the upper right part of the screen. Within about 30 seconds, the main screen should change from No GPS Device, to Waiting for a valid Signal. At that point you need to go outside with a clear view of the sky for a 1st fix.
If you continue to get the No GPS Device message, it suggests either the ROM didn't update properly, or there is a hardware fault.

Thank you for your help, It now all works after a hard reset, and have been playing with the GPS ever since. Great fun.

The icon is no problem and it not being there wont affect you much,
If you do want it, the easiest way to display it without modifying the resistry is to install an tweaking application like ' Trinity Hacks v2'. this is an excellant wee application that lets you easily make all kinds of settign adjustments without going into the registry.
If you do a search on the trinity forums its easy to find.
Good Luck!!