Hi! I'm a magic user here in manila and I've spent an amount on an IMEI unlock through a website (total gsm). To cut the story short, I believe he gave me a serial that might work with other networks but not on mine (still waiting for that refund). I really want to use the magic with my primary line.
Is there a way to update the radio to remove the network unlock? Thanks everyone!
shoktong said:
Hi! I'm a magic user here in manila and I've spent an amount on an IMEI unlock through a website (total gsm). To cut the story short, I believe he gave me a serial that might work with other networks but not on mine (still waiting for that refund). I really want to use the magic with my primary line.
Is there a way to update the radio to remove the network unlock? Thanks everyone!
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An unlock has nothing to do with what network you are using.
A sim-unlock will make it work with EVERY network.
He could have given you a bad code.
What is the problem you are having?
I'm just giving the guy the benefit of a doubt. Anyway, each time I enter his code, my magic notifies me that
"Network unlock is unsuccesful". I do hope this gets resolved soon.. or someone help me out. Hehehe. I just want my magic unlocked.
Question: does a hard spl always remove a CID (and does CID removal mean full network unlock)? Does the dream have hard-spl unlock?
shoktong said:
I'm just giving the guy the benefit of a doubt. Anyway, each time I enter his code, my magic notifies me that
"Network unlock is unsuccesful". I do hope this gets resolved soon.. or someone help me out. Hehehe. I just want my magic unlocked.
Question: does a hard spl always remove a CID (and does CID removal mean full network unlock)? Does the dream have hard-spl unlock?
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IMHO, super CID means that you can flash any rom, NOT unlock network.
re CID unlock, i kind of found that out reading through the forums
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Sorry if this is asked constantly, i tried searching and couldn't see any threads about it.
Basically what i'm wanting to know is if it's possible to unlock a phone that's still locked to a specific carrier (eg, optus or telstra if you're in australia). is this what CID unlocking is?
If so, then i guess i can grab a hermes / jasjam from ebay that's selling for less because it's carrier locked, unlock it, and use it with my current sim card?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
You're definately new with a question like that
Basically CID unlocking allows you to flash a ROM from any carrier and use it.
SIM unlocking allows you to use any SIM card with your existing (or any other) ROM.
If all you want to do is use a stock phone with any carrier I suggest you use POF's CID and SIM unlocker http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SimUnlock.
If you want to get better ROMS you'll need to do a whole pile more reading, and before flashing anything else start with Olipro's Hard-SPL 2.10 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722 and Mrvanx's Upgrade Guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299462.
Other useful upgrade info can be found in this sticky http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295751
mkerr said:
Sorry if this is asked constantly, i tried searching and couldn't see any threads about it.
Basically what i'm wanting to know is if it's possible to unlock a phone that's still locked to a specific carrier (eg, optus or telstra if you're in australia). is this what CID unlocking is?
If so, then i guess i can grab a hermes / jasjam from ebay that's selling for less because it's carrier locked, unlock it, and use it with my current sim card?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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so all i'd need to do, assuming i keep the stock rom, is to sim unlock it?
Yep, if you SIM unlock you can use the phone as supplied but with any carriers SIM card.
Oh yes, welcome to XDA-developers - I think if you read a bit more you will realise the benefits of the cooked ROMs here and later want to upgrade - it's highly addictive
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so all i'd need to do, assuming i keep the stock rom, is to sim unlock it?
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One further bit of advice if buying one of these phones from ebay - ask the seller for a picture of the phone when switched on so you can check it has a radio signal - also get him to confirm that it doesn't display NO GSM on the bottom right when it is booting. The NO GSM indicates a brick which may or may not be fixable by the tools we have here.
mkerr said:
Sorry if this is asked constantly, i tried searching and couldn't see any threads about it.
Basically what i'm wanting to know is if it's possible to unlock a phone that's still locked to a specific carrier (eg, optus or telstra if you're in australia). is this what CID unlocking is?
If so, then i guess i can grab a hermes / jasjam from ebay that's selling for less because it's carrier locked, unlock it, and use it with my current sim card?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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cheers for the reply
at the moment i've got an imate k-jam, and have been reading up about cooked roms etc, but didn't realise exactly what the unlocking involved (except that it let you play with the roms).
Is calling or emailing in ATT to get a unlock code the same as CID unlocking? or would I need to hack my 8525 to CID unlock it so I can add Different ROMS???
When you instal HardSPL your device is CID unlocked. It means that you can flash any Rom to your device. However, it is still SIM locked. Fot that you need to go to the Hermes Upgrading Forum.
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Is calling or emailing in ATT to get a unlock code the same as CID unlocking? or would I need to hack my 8525 to CID unlock it so I can add Different ROMS???
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if all you want to do is add new roms, use HardSpl v7, its a sticky at the top of the hermes mobile 6 or hermes upgrading sub-forums.
it fools the program into thinking your super cid without actually being super cid.
anyone please correct me if i'm wrong.
I think this answerers my question and worry about just running my phone as is and upgrading later if I want.
I keep reading later 8525's are impossible to sim unlock once they have been turned on once, so I was leery of even running the phone as is... but now since I know I DON'T have to sim unlock it to flash roms then I'm not going to worry about the unchangeable radio rom.
Seeing how Bepe's WM6.1 ROM requires HardSPL, does this mean all Polaris are CID locked?
Are there any issues when upgrading (like IPL/SPL problems on G3 vs G4 Wizards) that I should be aware of?
Thinking about getting a Polaris but just want to see what I'm getting myself into first. I personally have a G3 Wizard so I never really had to worry as much about bricking my phone.
If not all Polaris are CID locked, is there a way to tell if it is on the spot?
Also have some general questions on purchasing in the General Polaris forum here (600 for a LNIB Polaris Too good to be true?)
Polaris is not CID locked, basically.
If you buy a Polaris marked by a carrier (like O2 or Telecom) that should be CID locked, but where's the problem again? We have CID unlocker!
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Polaris is not CID locked, basically.
If you buy a Polaris marked by a carrier (like O2 or Telecom) that should be CID locked, but where's the problem again? We have CID unlocker!
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This is not true... Polaris is not SIM locked, basically.
But... all devices are CID-locked, until you use hard-SPL of course!
athanaso77 said:
This is not true... Polaris is not SIM locked, basically.
But... all devices are CID-locked, until you use hard-SPL of course!
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A few of us fortunate ones were able to get a pre-release Polaris which were not CID locked, but this was very limited quantities shipped to distributors for initial evaluations. The way to tell on the spot, as per your original questin is to invoke bootloader and read the SPL. Mine came with a MFG SPL, not a fixed version. It is highly unlikely that any unit bought from general retail woul be such a device, but that is how you would check it.
Excuse me mates, but he is asking about CID locked, not SIM locked.
CID = Carrier ID that means that if the phone is CID locked it is linked to a Carrier (ie Vodafone, Orange, etc etc) and you can use only that carrier's SIM
I bought my Polaris from Mediamarkt (they have tons of) and is NOT linked to any carrier (i can put whatever SIM form whatever carrier in it) so is CID unlocked.
We r saying the same things mates. I call CID what u call SIM.
Farewell
wonderiuy said:
Excuse me mates, but he is asking about CID locked, not SIM locked.
CID = Carrier ID that means that if the phone is CID locked it is linked to a Carrier (ie Vodafone, Orange, etc etc) and you can use only that carrier's SIM
I bought my Polaris from Mediamarkt (they have tons of) and is NOT linked to any carrier (i can put whatever SIM form whatever carrier in it) so is CID unlocked.
We r saying the same things mates. I call CID what u call SIM.
Farewell
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So basically, what's the difference between CID-Unlocker and Sim-Unlocker, because we have thoses 2 here?
Ther eis no difference, they r the same.
Really do we have a CID and a SIM unlocker?
I bet we have only 1
This is all utter bull****!
CID lock is completely different to a SIM lock. All devices coming from HTC are CID locked to prevent you from loading a non-genuine ROM onto the device. SIM lock has nothing to do with CID lock bud. My orbit 2 is CID but not SIM locked, it's not connected. But there are Polaris out there (no orbits/dopods but Touch Cruises) which are sold branded and SIM locked and of course, CID locked.
SIM is NOT the same as CID. It never was and will never be.
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So basically, what's the difference between CID-Unlocker and Sim-Unlocker, because we have thoses 2 here?
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There are devices which dont feature a SIM lock, they work with all SIMs out there on all networks. But they all are CID locked. Those devices can be unlocked to eat custom ROMs using the HardSPL. The HardSPL skips the check the original loader does when you try to load a ROM onto the device.
But there are devices which are supposed to be locked to the carrier you bought it from. Very much like the American iPhone: it's (well, it should be ) tied to AT&T and doesnt eat custom SIM cards. For that case Olipro created the second unlocker available, is a combined solution. Its the HardSPL (letting you flash a custom ROM) with a SIM-unlocker (which will let you use any SIM) strapped on top. Since I have a CID locked only device, I didnt look into the unlocker that deeply, but I don't even know if it features the function to leave the SPL alone and only SIM-unlock your device... But, to be brutally honest, who around xda-dev is interested in that
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This is all utter bull****!
CID lock is completely different to a SIM lock. ....
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Thanks mate...
I was a minute ahead to post the link to the explanations in the WIKI for wonderjuy (sorry, don't take it personal)
Oh no, my post wasnt meant in any offending way. But I'm quite sorry, its kind of hard to nicely explain it after so many very determined wrong statements of wonderjuy. But yeah, don't take it personal and the correct information can be found in the WIKI.
Seems that I used wrong words - so please:
Accept my apologize if I offended somebody!
wonderiuy said:
Ther eis no difference, they r the same.
Really do we have a CID and a SIM unlocker?
I bet we have only 1
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Don't bet because you will lose. Sorry... but you have messed things up and you are completely wrong!!!
YEs, sry all...there's always room for knowledge
Not a problem at all buddy, thats right. Theres always room for knowledge and thats in fact why we all gathered here at xda-developers.com
So, this must be my first post in this great forum so I'm not quite sure if I'm doing this in the right place.
I'm interested in unlocking my HTC P4350 and before I've posted this thread, I've already read most of the topics that talked about unlocking SIM or CID the Herald. Although, some questions remained and that's why I'm opening this thread.
First, I still can't get the difference between CID and SIM unlock and the way in which they both interact. Don't know if by CID unlocking the device I get SIM unlock, etc.
Secondly, I saw that most users tell people to follow this method, http://www.imei-check.co.uk/heraldunlock.php but I can't really judge it to say if it's safe for my money and device.
Another option was to contact Vodafone from Portugal directly and buy them a unlock code. Although I'm really not sure of this because I want a full device unlock option (CID and SIM unlock I guess) that allows me to work with other network SIM cards, to flash the device with new ROM's and to upgrade to any Windows Mobile I want. Doesn't matter if the solution is free or not. Just name one please !
PS: Also found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433544 but I really don't know if it helps me in any way.
Peace.
CID Unlock - CID stands for Country ID..if you get to CID Unlock your phone, it means you can flash any (officially released) ROMS released for Herald. I suggest you load Hard SPL on your phone, it gets CID Unlocked plus you're safe from bricking it from wrong/bad flashing. See here
SIM Unlock - Would unlock your phone from a specific carrier and be able to use all SIM cards
It doesn't necessarily mean that when you CID Unlock your phone, it gets network unlocked too, no... they are done separately... some utilities (well on other devices) get them integrated on a single program (none i think for the Herald)
On the case of www.imei-check.co.uk, after the payment, they will be providing you an unlock kit that would SIM and CID Unlock your phone..
CID Unlock ( free thru Hard SPL)
SIM Unlock - I guess you have to pay for it since there are still no other free solutions to SIM Unlock a Herald. Contact jockyw2001 for a good price for unlocking.
Thank you very much for the help !
I'm going to use this post to say that I'm very happy with the simple and easy way that jockyw2001 got to SIM unlock my Herald. After long research in a way to unlock my P4350, a member, in this thread told me to talk to him and I did. After a 20 minute e-mail talk, I've got my Herald SIM unlocked for a small fee of 25$ US.
Nice job jocky.
So, I'm going to use this thread to put my questions to avoid starting new ones.
I've already SIM unlocked my phone with jocky and now I've done the HardSPL method to CID unlock the device.
Now comes my really noobish part. If i'm not in mistake, a WM6 update came out to the Herald and I'd like to install it on my PDA. I've got already a different looking OS because the HardSPL method but my 2 questions are about the WM6 update and the TouchIT OS install. Are they both the same thing? Which do you advise to install on the Herald?
Maybe my question is out of the context but I can't explain myself any better :x.
Regards and thank you for reading.
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So, I'm going to use this thread to put my questions to avoid starting new ones.
I've already SIM unlocked my phone with jocky and now I've done the HardSPL method to CID unlock the device.
Now comes my really noobish part. If i'm not in mistake, a WM6 update came out to the Herald and I'd like to install it on my PDA. I've got already a different looking OS because the HardSPL method but my 2 questions are about the WM6 update and the TouchIT OS install. Are they both the same thing? Which do you advise to install on the Herald?
Maybe my question is out of the context but I can't explain myself any better :x.
Regards and thank you for reading.
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true in essence its actually the same but the toucht it roms are lot better it comes with a lot of reg edits so it runs stable/better/faster it comes with a custom theme wich imho looks pretty badass but also check out ttrans open touch its really good as well
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true in essence its actually the same but the toucht it roms are lot better it comes with a lot of reg edits so it runs stable/better/faster it comes with a custom theme wich imho looks pretty badass but also check out ttrans open touch its really good as well
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But what ROM versio of TouchIT should I use? There are a ton of them in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358030.
jncunha said:
But what ROM versio of TouchIT should I use? There are a ton of them in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358030.
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its best if you look through rom development but ill post a good one for u
I was thinking on the TouchIT WM6.1 Full. What do you think?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365601
yep personally i like ttrans open touch 7.2 it has a very nice ui
I really can't find the link to download the ROM in the threads :x. Can anyone help me?
jncunha said:
I really can't find the link to download the ROM in the threads :x. Can anyone help me?
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jncunha said:
Secondly, I saw that most users tell people to follow this method, http://www.imei-check.co.uk/heraldunlock.php but I can't really judge it to say if it's safe for my money and device.
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I just used them to unlock a T-mobile Wing. Worked beautifully, was fast and easy (with the time difference, everything was ready by the time I woke up this morning after ordering it last night).
Edit: I see you already unlocked... Oh well, that'll teach me to read the whole thread before hitting the quick reply...
Dear all,
I simple question to HTC, (1) if they could provide me with an unlock code and (2) if a ROM update with an unlocked phone would void the warranty.... Funnily enough I got this reply... out of point I know.... but it led me to realise something else....Read on ...
Dear Sir
, Thank you for contacting us. In regards to the Rom and unlocking, I can help you with that. The unlocking code will only let you use another sim card in the device for calls and texts, the software on the device will still remain. As the device is branded the original software cannot be removed. If you do a hard reset on the device has been unlocked the code will not work again and phone will be once again locked to the network provider. Thank you for contacting HTC. Best regards, HTC Support
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I looked up the internet and did not find sufficient proof that indicates if the above is correct or not.... I guess they are not saying the truth ... So question is this... If the phone requires a hard reset ... and it has HSPL/2 right now on it ... Would this mean that the Sim Lock will be back? And the unlock code which I put in will be no longer valid? Personally I find all this a big load of crap .... Because if the IMEI does not change ... and the code is created via the IMEI ... I don't think it makes sense to say that the "unlock code will not work again and the Phone will be locked". But before I jump to any conclusions, I would like to hear the opinion of the clever guys out there ...
This email was interesting .... I wonder what's up in HTC's customer supports' minds ...
Regards
Al
I guess HTC is only talking and can only talk about default ROMs, not custom roms, if you have hspl your device you will no longer get support from htc.... anyways, HSPL is not the same as sim unlocking your device, check the wiki pages.
I didn't make myself clear that must be it.....
doctorcete said:
I guess HTC is only talking and can only talk about default ROMs, not custom roms, if you have hspl your device you will no longer get support from htc.... anyways, HSPL is not the same as sim unlocking your device, check the wiki pages.
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I guess you didn't understand me .... I know that sim unlocking is not the same. The thing that bothered me was whether HTC is saying the truth aka
"Is it true that HARD RESETTING would make you LOSE the sim unlock code and it would never work again? Yes or no?"
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Many Thanks again for your answer
once u unlock ur device to be used on another network and u change the radio or rom the device will still continue to be unlocked... i hav 2 devices 1 is the hd the other is the hd2 and both are unlocked and hav different roms and radios
I have a question regarding this too.
I've heard that TMobile US has a separate IMEI number than the one on the device on the back.
Is this true?
Now for unlocking it has been suggested that you get it from T-Mobile. If you don't, it will most likely fail to unlock.
Is that true?
And finally has anyone that unlocked their phone directly from T-Mobile hard- resetted their HD2?
if you bought the hd2 from Tmob "outright"..they will provide the unlock code
I have the Tmob provide code for my hd2, yes it worked and still worked after a hard reset
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if you bought the hd2 from Tmob "outright"..they will provide the unlock code
I have the Tmob provide code for my hd2, yes it worked and still worked after a hard reset
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Thank you for your quick response!
I do have one final one. How long did it take for T-Mobile to get the code for you?
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if you bought the hd2 from Tmob "outright"..they will provide the unlock code
I have the Tmob provide code for my hd2, yes it worked and still worked after a hard reset
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I DID not get my unlock code from T mobile directly. They said its a genuine unlock code ... but i did not attempt a hard reset yet. Is this hoax true????? That if you HARD RESET your phone your UNLOCK code is gone YES OR NO? I seem like i cannot get the message through .... Anyone HARD RESET his phone and got it sim locked again? And anyway it does not make sense to say that the unlock code wont work anymore because the IMEI remains the same ... so this is not really sounding like a true statement from htc .....but i want to hear of somebody who hard reset his phone and got his t mobile unlock code not through t mobile to make sure...... I will ask the people who helped me out with the unlock service and will get back to everyone with a confirmation ....
As for the other guy who said that T mobile have got a separate IMEI .... the answer is NO. They all have ONE IMEI.... the only thing I can confirm to you is that T mobile CHANGES the Unlock codes to a system of their own, hence a genuine htc unlock code WON't work on ANY T mobile flashed device...... and there is no need to get the unlock code from t mobile ... it would take you like 3 months if u ain't got a contract + they will force you to do a contract for a minimum period of 90 days.... a Huge f**k up considering that you might not even be on t mobile or worse still not even in the country . ....
There are good services out there ... mine took exactly 9 hours to get unlocked......from time of payment
Many Thanks
oops.. wrong forum
Yeah, the reply you got made no sense... unlocking the phone out of a preset carrier is relative to the IMEI of that phone and not on the software status installed on there... as if a carrier was able to determine os/version of your phone upon connection and forbid access if they notice (?) you did a hard reset
Please help
onebyside said:
if you bought the hd2 from Tmob "outright"..they will provide the unlock code
I have the Tmob provide code for my hd2, yes it worked and still worked after a hard reset
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Does that mean after u did the hard reset; the phone was locked again and u had to re-enter the unlock code??
I'm asking about that coz i bought my TMOUS HD2 already unlocked but the seller did not provide me with the unlock code!!
Does that mean that i have to buy the code to use it if i hard reset the device???
Plz help!!
no, once unlocked it will stay unlocked.
Glad
Glad to hear that!! No need to spend more money then!!
Thanx mate!!