So, this must be my first post in this great forum so I'm not quite sure if I'm doing this in the right place.
I'm interested in unlocking my HTC P4350 and before I've posted this thread, I've already read most of the topics that talked about unlocking SIM or CID the Herald. Although, some questions remained and that's why I'm opening this thread.
First, I still can't get the difference between CID and SIM unlock and the way in which they both interact. Don't know if by CID unlocking the device I get SIM unlock, etc.
Secondly, I saw that most users tell people to follow this method, http://www.imei-check.co.uk/heraldunlock.php but I can't really judge it to say if it's safe for my money and device.
Another option was to contact Vodafone from Portugal directly and buy them a unlock code. Although I'm really not sure of this because I want a full device unlock option (CID and SIM unlock I guess) that allows me to work with other network SIM cards, to flash the device with new ROM's and to upgrade to any Windows Mobile I want. Doesn't matter if the solution is free or not. Just name one please !
PS: Also found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433544 but I really don't know if it helps me in any way.
Peace.
CID Unlock - CID stands for Country ID..if you get to CID Unlock your phone, it means you can flash any (officially released) ROMS released for Herald. I suggest you load Hard SPL on your phone, it gets CID Unlocked plus you're safe from bricking it from wrong/bad flashing. See here
SIM Unlock - Would unlock your phone from a specific carrier and be able to use all SIM cards
It doesn't necessarily mean that when you CID Unlock your phone, it gets network unlocked too, no... they are done separately... some utilities (well on other devices) get them integrated on a single program (none i think for the Herald)
On the case of www.imei-check.co.uk, after the payment, they will be providing you an unlock kit that would SIM and CID Unlock your phone..
CID Unlock ( free thru Hard SPL)
SIM Unlock - I guess you have to pay for it since there are still no other free solutions to SIM Unlock a Herald. Contact jockyw2001 for a good price for unlocking.
Thank you very much for the help !
I'm going to use this post to say that I'm very happy with the simple and easy way that jockyw2001 got to SIM unlock my Herald. After long research in a way to unlock my P4350, a member, in this thread told me to talk to him and I did. After a 20 minute e-mail talk, I've got my Herald SIM unlocked for a small fee of 25$ US.
Nice job jocky.
So, I'm going to use this thread to put my questions to avoid starting new ones.
I've already SIM unlocked my phone with jocky and now I've done the HardSPL method to CID unlock the device.
Now comes my really noobish part. If i'm not in mistake, a WM6 update came out to the Herald and I'd like to install it on my PDA. I've got already a different looking OS because the HardSPL method but my 2 questions are about the WM6 update and the TouchIT OS install. Are they both the same thing? Which do you advise to install on the Herald?
Maybe my question is out of the context but I can't explain myself any better :x.
Regards and thank you for reading.
jncunha said:
So, I'm going to use this thread to put my questions to avoid starting new ones.
I've already SIM unlocked my phone with jocky and now I've done the HardSPL method to CID unlock the device.
Now comes my really noobish part. If i'm not in mistake, a WM6 update came out to the Herald and I'd like to install it on my PDA. I've got already a different looking OS because the HardSPL method but my 2 questions are about the WM6 update and the TouchIT OS install. Are they both the same thing? Which do you advise to install on the Herald?
Maybe my question is out of the context but I can't explain myself any better :x.
Regards and thank you for reading.
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true in essence its actually the same but the toucht it roms are lot better it comes with a lot of reg edits so it runs stable/better/faster it comes with a custom theme wich imho looks pretty badass but also check out ttrans open touch its really good as well
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true in essence its actually the same but the toucht it roms are lot better it comes with a lot of reg edits so it runs stable/better/faster it comes with a custom theme wich imho looks pretty badass but also check out ttrans open touch its really good as well
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But what ROM versio of TouchIT should I use? There are a ton of them in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358030.
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But what ROM versio of TouchIT should I use? There are a ton of them in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358030.
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its best if you look through rom development but ill post a good one for u
I was thinking on the TouchIT WM6.1 Full. What do you think?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365601
yep personally i like ttrans open touch 7.2 it has a very nice ui
I really can't find the link to download the ROM in the threads :x. Can anyone help me?
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I really can't find the link to download the ROM in the threads :x. Can anyone help me?
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jncunha said:
Secondly, I saw that most users tell people to follow this method, http://www.imei-check.co.uk/heraldunlock.php but I can't really judge it to say if it's safe for my money and device.
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I just used them to unlock a T-mobile Wing. Worked beautifully, was fast and easy (with the time difference, everything was ready by the time I woke up this morning after ordering it last night).
Edit: I see you already unlocked... Oh well, that'll teach me to read the whole thread before hitting the quick reply...
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Hi,
Im looking at upgrading from the Magician to the Wizard on T-Mobile.
Please answer these Q's for me:
1) Is the Remote assistance any good over WIFI?
This function would be really good for me so please post your experiences with it.
2) Is it easy to unlock?
I done searching but cant find much.
3) What ROM should I install on it?
I put the IMATE Jam one on my Magician, but what is the best one to use on the Wizard?
Thanks alot.
Greatly appreciated/
MC_Bob
Even if you can only answer one Question please reply.
I would like a reply asap
Thanks alot.
MC_Bob
I'm not much help for you but I will say I never could get WinVNC to work on my phone. I haven't tried any other method.
WinVNC isnt the defualt that comes on the phone is it?
Thanks
Unlocking is easy as long as you don't have the latest ROM installed. Some people have apparently downgraded their ROM to an older version, unlokced the phone (SIM and CID) and then you're free to upgrade to any ROM you like. Check out the big threads on Lokiwiz for more info.
As for what ROM to choose, I've just installed Mr Clean ROM and am very happy with it (see current threads in the Wizard Upgrading topic). He's also done a T-Mobile variant, if you want the T-Mobile stuff added (inc skins) but I personally put in the really clean version and then added just the MMS/GPRS/etc T-Mobile setup stuff, as I never liked T-Mobile's colours much.
One hint - if you want more replies, use a topic subject that's a bit more specific than "I need help", or peole just won't read the thread. Let us know what you actually want to know!
Andre
andrewilley said:
Unlocking is easy as long as you don't have the latest ROM installed. Some people have apparently downgraded their ROM to an older version, unlokced the phone (SIM and CID) and then you're free to upgrade to any ROM you like. Check out the big threads on Lokiwiz for more info.
As for what ROM to choose, I've just installed Mr Clean ROM and am very happy with it (see current threads in the Wizard Upgrading topic). He's also done a T-Mobile variant, if you want the T-Mobile stuff added (inc skins) but I personally put in the really clean version and then added just the MMS/GPRS/etc T-Mobile setup stuff, as I never liked T-Mobile's colours much.
One hint - if you want more replies, use a topic subject that's a bit more specific than "I need help", or peole just won't read the thread. Let us know what you actually want to know!
Andre
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Ah ok, Cheers.
So if I unlock it, then change the ROM it will be good?
And does anyone have a specific one I should get?
Thanks alot people.
MC_Bob
Mr bob - if you are getting a brand new t-mobile vario chances are it will have the new G4 chip which can only be cid unlocked via http://www.imei-check.co.uk/ for a cost of approx £30 or so. You can tell if it has a G4 chip by looking at the ipl/spl numbers when it boots up. If it has a number ending in .001 then it has a G4 chip.
There is a free way to upgrade your rom that does not update your ipl/spl see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56088
You can sim unlock (but not cid unlock) a G4 chip enabled device with lokiwiz 0.3a
Why not wait a short while and get the varioII aka hermes\tytn? Better specs than the wizard.
meschle said:
Mr bob - if you are getting a brand new t-mobile vario chances are it will have the new G4 chip which can only be cid unlocked via http://www.imei-check.co.uk/ for a cost of approx £30 or so. You can tell if it has a G4 chip by looking at the ipl/spl numbers when it boots up. If it has a number ending in .001 then it has a G4 chip.
There is a free way to upgrade your rom that does not update your ipl/spl see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56088
You can sim unlock (but not cid unlock) a G4 chip enabled device with lokiwiz 0.3a
Why not wait a short while and get the varioII aka hermes\tytn? Better specs than the wizard.
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Coolio
Is there anything I can do to get rid of the Tmobile crap though?
A new theme wont do it will it?
Ill see what heppens when I get it.
MC_bob
Thanks
mc_bob said:
Is there anything I can do to get rid of the Tmobile crap though?
A new theme wont do it will it?
Ill see what heppens when I get it.
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I've avoided the custom ROM's because there seem to be too many issues reported, and I haven't found the standard U.S. T-Mo ROM to be a problem for me. Doing some tweaking, including overclocking, has made this device very useful.
Follow the instructions here to bypass loading the T-Mo extended ROM:
http://www.lvlolvlo.net/PDA/MDA/FreshnClean.htm
You can then add each CAB individually to your taste. This author suggested that you must load the items in red, but I only added four of these and my device works fine. In fact, for a while I didn't have any of these CAB's loaded, and the only thing I missed was SmartDialer.
I don't use any internet features except wifi (freebies, not T-Mo hotspots), so I left most of it out.
Cheers, phone come this morning and im in the process of doing this stuff
Hi Folks
I was wondering if someone know if the IMEI Unlocking services offered in many websites really work:
For example: http://www.gsmphonesource.com/reunbyimforc.html
It make the kind of unlocking like the unlocking software posted on this forum?
Thanks to all!!
Sergio
We have a FREE SIM unlocker which does the same, and more:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282073
Ours keeps SuperCID forever, theirs not
Hi Pof
I have seen your great job. Thanks for that!
since I am just starting on this XDA world I dont want to mess with rom upgrading and stuff. So I felt that just entering an unlock code is 'safer' for now, but I wanted to know if that remote IMEI solution really works for using the phone with other SIM cards
Thanks!!!
Yes, it works. It has the same effect on the phone, but I really encourage you to try my solution instead, it's not that hard, but the warnings are there for you to be cautious
The IMEI is not used at all for unlocking, it's just to make sure you don't buy an unlocker from them and use it in two different devices: if you want to unlock two devices you have to pay twice
If you want to technically understand what their unlocker does, and what does mine, have a look at this post (comments #54 to #57):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280819&p=1046444
My understanding is that the Cingular 8525 use BootLoader 1.06, which means that in order to unlock the phone, the BootLoader need to be downgraded to 1.04 (by installing older ROM), SIM unlock it, and then upgrade to new ROM with BootLoader 1.6.
This may seems complicated.
I used pof's method and had my phone up and running in less than an hour and it was FREE!
VideoFX
Call Cingular tell then u r going to europe
Call Cingular tell them you are going out of conutry and they will send you unlock caode for free in 5 days.
lanwarrior said:
My understanding is that the Cingular 8525 use BootLoader 1.06, which means that in order to unlock the phone, the BootLoader need to be downgraded to 1.04 (by installing older ROM), SIM unlock it, and then upgrade to new ROM with BootLoader 1.6.
This may seems complicated.
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That's not true..
Grab pof's exe, and run the bat file. There's nothing else to do. Just sit, be patient and follow the instructions.
It's really brainlessly easy. That means, that even those without brains should be able to handle it...
LegolasTheElf said:
That's not true..
Grab pof's exe, and run the bat file. There's nothing else to do. Just sit, be patient and follow the instructions.
It's really brainlessly easy. That means, that even those without brains should be able to handle it...
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So i am waiting my cingular 8525 in the mail, so all i need to do to get the phone sim unlocked and cid unlock is to follow the directions? no need to downgrade if i have 1.06
jemx33 said:
So i am waiting my cingular 8525 in the mail, so all i need to do to get the phone sim unlocked and cid unlock is to follow the directions? no need to downgrade if i have 1.06
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It's easy. READ, READ some more, then READ till you puke. Then, follow the directions TO THE LETTER, and you'll be just fine. Nothing else to do. THEN, once it's unlocked, you'll want to flash a normal radio and a new OS.
As a newbie, I suggest you pay close attention to POF and Legolas; this stuff is EASY, but only because I've read the WIKI, lots of threads, then re-read the WIKI 2 or 3 more times.....then followed the instructions to the letter. And then go back to the WIKI just to stay sharp.
Reading the threads will give you an idea of just how many people do stupid things like NOT reading the WIKI, try flashing a new ROM or radio on a whim, follow only the directions they feel like, and turn a wonderful PDA/Phone into a useless brick. I've been around here only about 2 months but am now flashing ROM's on my CID/SIM Unlocked Cingular 8525 at will and having a ball. Will be joining the ROM Flasher's 12-step program soon.
So, read, pay attention, follow the instructions fully, read some more and read the threads so you can appreciate what happens when someone doesn't read, follow the instructions fully, etc.
Why Pay????
There's no sense in paying when POF's provided a great unlocking program here that's easy to use and works GREAT!!! This IS a no brainer.....
If you don't plan on going out of the country and wanting to change cell phone service provider, what is the benifit if unlocking the phone. I have been flashing my phone to different ROM's since the day I've had it.
I don't really see the added benifit of unlocking the phone...but then again I am a newb at this stuff.
If you have no plans on changing SIM cards, i.e. changing providers or travelling out of the country where you might want to use a local SIM to save $$, there's no need to SIM unlock your phone. If your phone is CID unlocked, then you are able to flash cooked ROMs' and ROMs' belonging to other carriers, i.e. flash a T-Mobile ROM to a Cingular phone. Unlocking also gives you access to the Extended ROM and several MB of storage space not otherwise avail to unlocked phones
Question, what difference if any is there between me getting the Unlock Code from ATT (just did it for some old V551's of mine with an email to them) and this Unlock tool of Pof's? I do plan to unlock it soon, planned on going the ATT route because I know it works. If your tool does something over and above I'd like to know.
Thank you!
question?
i'm wondering....im about to buy a 8525 tilt...i want to know:confused if i called cingular and asked for a unlock code would it cost me...also if i mess up and did it myself whats the worse that could happen to the phone......
b4mytime1 said:
i'm wondering....im about to buy a 8525 tilt...i want to know:confused if i called cingular and asked for a unlock code would it cost me...also if i mess up and did it myself whats the worse that could happen to the phone......
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at&t would provide you with the unlock code for free. the worst of course is your phone turning into a brick, but if you are smart enough to follow instructions it will be fine.
and one more thing........which device are you getting......8525 tilt????? if its the 8925/tilt you are in the wrong subforum, you should be looking at the kaiser section. the 8525 does belong here
ok so i just got sent an att 8525. I am planning on unlocking this phone.
I havent been on these boards in forever but has anything changed? Is there anything in these rebranded att phones that may not let me unlock? is there a newer tutorial?
thanks guys
Hi,
I just wanted to share that I unlocked my 8525 with HTC_Hermes_SIM_CID_Unlock_v3a on Vista. It went through with not one issue or hiccup.
Thanks
Greg
Sorry if this is asked constantly, i tried searching and couldn't see any threads about it.
Basically what i'm wanting to know is if it's possible to unlock a phone that's still locked to a specific carrier (eg, optus or telstra if you're in australia). is this what CID unlocking is?
If so, then i guess i can grab a hermes / jasjam from ebay that's selling for less because it's carrier locked, unlock it, and use it with my current sim card?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
You're definately new with a question like that
Basically CID unlocking allows you to flash a ROM from any carrier and use it.
SIM unlocking allows you to use any SIM card with your existing (or any other) ROM.
If all you want to do is use a stock phone with any carrier I suggest you use POF's CID and SIM unlocker http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SimUnlock.
If you want to get better ROMS you'll need to do a whole pile more reading, and before flashing anything else start with Olipro's Hard-SPL 2.10 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722 and Mrvanx's Upgrade Guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299462.
Other useful upgrade info can be found in this sticky http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295751
mkerr said:
Sorry if this is asked constantly, i tried searching and couldn't see any threads about it.
Basically what i'm wanting to know is if it's possible to unlock a phone that's still locked to a specific carrier (eg, optus or telstra if you're in australia). is this what CID unlocking is?
If so, then i guess i can grab a hermes / jasjam from ebay that's selling for less because it's carrier locked, unlock it, and use it with my current sim card?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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so all i'd need to do, assuming i keep the stock rom, is to sim unlock it?
Yep, if you SIM unlock you can use the phone as supplied but with any carriers SIM card.
Oh yes, welcome to XDA-developers - I think if you read a bit more you will realise the benefits of the cooked ROMs here and later want to upgrade - it's highly addictive
mkerr said:
so all i'd need to do, assuming i keep the stock rom, is to sim unlock it?
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One further bit of advice if buying one of these phones from ebay - ask the seller for a picture of the phone when switched on so you can check it has a radio signal - also get him to confirm that it doesn't display NO GSM on the bottom right when it is booting. The NO GSM indicates a brick which may or may not be fixable by the tools we have here.
mkerr said:
Sorry if this is asked constantly, i tried searching and couldn't see any threads about it.
Basically what i'm wanting to know is if it's possible to unlock a phone that's still locked to a specific carrier (eg, optus or telstra if you're in australia). is this what CID unlocking is?
If so, then i guess i can grab a hermes / jasjam from ebay that's selling for less because it's carrier locked, unlock it, and use it with my current sim card?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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cheers for the reply
at the moment i've got an imate k-jam, and have been reading up about cooked roms etc, but didn't realise exactly what the unlocking involved (except that it let you play with the roms).
i am using the vodavone vpa compact II which came locked for one specific provider. when i put my simcard into the device, it said that in order to unlock it, i had to input some code (cannot remember what the name was, it's been a long time since then). from a friend who happens to work at another provider i got this code, he just needed to know the IMEI of the device. after using it my wizard was unlocked and i was able to use my simcard.
but how do i know if it is also CID-unlocked?
if yes, then it would be much easier now to update it to wm6, right?
EricCartman said:
if yes, then it would be much easier now to update it to wm6, right?
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CID unlocking isn't the same as SPL unlocking. They are exclusive to one another.
You need to know if your phone is G3 or G4, and then decide whether to do a SoftSPL unlock or a HardSPL unlock, if it's a G4.
Bottom line, you have a LOT of reading to do first.
You need to learn the pitfalls before you go bricking your phone, and then start sending those frantic "PLEASE HELP!" posts to the boards. Flashing your phone with a cooked ROM isn't like installing a plugin, or loading Google Maps. It's much more treacherous. Judging by the frequency with which "Please Help!" posts get published, I'd say that 4 out of 5 noobs don't bother reading the Wiki or the sticky threads on these boards before proceeding with a ROM flash. Do yourself a favor and don't be that guy. Do a LOT of reading before you start downloading anything.
Read the Wizard wiki THOROUGHLY
Read the Wizard Mobile 6 Sticky messages
Read the SoftSPL thread
Find a good backup tool that you like
Load Total Commander CE. Get used to using it. Most ROMs include it as a default, and it's priceless as a file manager and registry editor, combined
Learn about OMAPClock Plus. If you're planning on flashing to WM6, you're going to want overclocking capabilities!
This list is by no means comprehensive. This is just the "Getting Started" homework you should be doing. An informed geek makes better choices for himself than anyone else can make for him/her.
EricCartman said:
i am using the vodavone vpa compact II which came locked for one specific provider. when i put my simcard into the device, it said that in order to unlock it, i had to input some code (cannot remember what the name was, it's been a long time since then). from a friend who happens to work at another provider i got this code, he just needed to know the IMEI of the device. after using it my wizard was unlocked and i was able to use my simcard.
but how do i know if it is also CID-unlocked?
if yes, then it would be much easier now to update it to wm6, right?
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Simply download WST_4.2.2 and run it,it'll give all the details and confirm if its CID locked or unlocked,After that decide what you have to do.
zabardast_1 said:
Simply download WST_4.2.2 and run it,it'll give all the details and confirm if its CID locked or unlocked,After that decide what you have to do.
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thanks, that's the answer i've been looking for.
everyone,...
i flashed HSPL, it worked great, i was able to flash a WWE ROM on my French Leo, but it did not unlock the device since when i put another SIM card in, it reads, SIM LOCKED, and will not let me use the device from anything other than the French SIM card,...
thanks for any input you can give,...
ek
HSPL does no sim unlocking
o.k., thanks,...
but when i've flashed other devices, i.e., SPV 3100, vox, touch pro, no problem with the unlock,...
do i then have to go an buy one of those 'unlockers' from one of the websites just for the LEO, or, is there another way,...
have read much, have not found a solution,...
thanks for your help,...
ek
Yes at the moment there is no other way to unlock the HD2 other than to go to your carrier and ask for it or use an unlocking site and provide your IMEI. All HSPL does is to "unlock" you from the clutches of official carrier roms. And provide a nice way to recover if you break your system.
thank you cass,...
any recommendations on an unlocker,...? am reading about many dodgy unlockers who take money and do nothing,...
thanks again for your help,...
ek
ekacz24 said:
thank you cass,...
any recommendations on an unlocker,...? am reading about many dodgy unlockers who take money and do nothing,...
thanks again for your help,...
ek
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Sorry, mine is still carrier locked, some others in this forum have had luck from the following
unlockitnow.com
www.swiftphones.co.uk
http://your-unlock.com/
I cant recommend any of them personally as i have not used them but if you run a search on the forum for HD2 carrier unlock you can read what others have to say.