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Cingular 8525 Remote IMEI Unlocking?

Hi Folks
I was wondering if someone know if the IMEI Unlocking services offered in many websites really work:
For example: http://www.gsmphonesource.com/reunbyimforc.html
It make the kind of unlocking like the unlocking software posted on this forum?
Thanks to all!!
Sergio

We have a FREE SIM unlocker which does the same, and more:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282073
Ours keeps SuperCID forever, theirs not

Hi Pof
I have seen your great job. Thanks for that!
since I am just starting on this XDA world I dont want to mess with rom upgrading and stuff. So I felt that just entering an unlock code is 'safer' for now, but I wanted to know if that remote IMEI solution really works for using the phone with other SIM cards
Thanks!!!

Yes, it works. It has the same effect on the phone, but I really encourage you to try my solution instead, it's not that hard, but the warnings are there for you to be cautious
The IMEI is not used at all for unlocking, it's just to make sure you don't buy an unlocker from them and use it in two different devices: if you want to unlock two devices you have to pay twice
If you want to technically understand what their unlocker does, and what does mine, have a look at this post (comments #54 to #57):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280819&p=1046444

My understanding is that the Cingular 8525 use BootLoader 1.06, which means that in order to unlock the phone, the BootLoader need to be downgraded to 1.04 (by installing older ROM), SIM unlock it, and then upgrade to new ROM with BootLoader 1.6.
This may seems complicated.

I used pof's method and had my phone up and running in less than an hour and it was FREE!
VideoFX

Call Cingular tell then u r going to europe
Call Cingular tell them you are going out of conutry and they will send you unlock caode for free in 5 days.

lanwarrior said:
My understanding is that the Cingular 8525 use BootLoader 1.06, which means that in order to unlock the phone, the BootLoader need to be downgraded to 1.04 (by installing older ROM), SIM unlock it, and then upgrade to new ROM with BootLoader 1.6.
This may seems complicated.
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That's not true..
Grab pof's exe, and run the bat file. There's nothing else to do. Just sit, be patient and follow the instructions.
It's really brainlessly easy. That means, that even those without brains should be able to handle it...

LegolasTheElf said:
That's not true..
Grab pof's exe, and run the bat file. There's nothing else to do. Just sit, be patient and follow the instructions.
It's really brainlessly easy. That means, that even those without brains should be able to handle it...
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So i am waiting my cingular 8525 in the mail, so all i need to do to get the phone sim unlocked and cid unlock is to follow the directions? no need to downgrade if i have 1.06

jemx33 said:
So i am waiting my cingular 8525 in the mail, so all i need to do to get the phone sim unlocked and cid unlock is to follow the directions? no need to downgrade if i have 1.06
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It's easy. READ, READ some more, then READ till you puke. Then, follow the directions TO THE LETTER, and you'll be just fine. Nothing else to do. THEN, once it's unlocked, you'll want to flash a normal radio and a new OS.

As a newbie, I suggest you pay close attention to POF and Legolas; this stuff is EASY, but only because I've read the WIKI, lots of threads, then re-read the WIKI 2 or 3 more times.....then followed the instructions to the letter. And then go back to the WIKI just to stay sharp.
Reading the threads will give you an idea of just how many people do stupid things like NOT reading the WIKI, try flashing a new ROM or radio on a whim, follow only the directions they feel like, and turn a wonderful PDA/Phone into a useless brick. I've been around here only about 2 months but am now flashing ROM's on my CID/SIM Unlocked Cingular 8525 at will and having a ball. Will be joining the ROM Flasher's 12-step program soon.
So, read, pay attention, follow the instructions fully, read some more and read the threads so you can appreciate what happens when someone doesn't read, follow the instructions fully, etc.

Why Pay????
There's no sense in paying when POF's provided a great unlocking program here that's easy to use and works GREAT!!! This IS a no brainer.....

If you don't plan on going out of the country and wanting to change cell phone service provider, what is the benifit if unlocking the phone. I have been flashing my phone to different ROM's since the day I've had it.
I don't really see the added benifit of unlocking the phone...but then again I am a newb at this stuff.

If you have no plans on changing SIM cards, i.e. changing providers or travelling out of the country where you might want to use a local SIM to save $$, there's no need to SIM unlock your phone. If your phone is CID unlocked, then you are able to flash cooked ROMs' and ROMs' belonging to other carriers, i.e. flash a T-Mobile ROM to a Cingular phone. Unlocking also gives you access to the Extended ROM and several MB of storage space not otherwise avail to unlocked phones

Question, what difference if any is there between me getting the Unlock Code from ATT (just did it for some old V551's of mine with an email to them) and this Unlock tool of Pof's? I do plan to unlock it soon, planned on going the ATT route because I know it works. If your tool does something over and above I'd like to know.
Thank you!

question?
i'm wondering....im about to buy a 8525 tilt...i want to know:confused if i called cingular and asked for a unlock code would it cost me...also if i mess up and did it myself whats the worse that could happen to the phone......

b4mytime1 said:
i'm wondering....im about to buy a 8525 tilt...i want to know:confused if i called cingular and asked for a unlock code would it cost me...also if i mess up and did it myself whats the worse that could happen to the phone......
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at&t would provide you with the unlock code for free. the worst of course is your phone turning into a brick, but if you are smart enough to follow instructions it will be fine.
and one more thing........which device are you getting......8525 tilt????? if its the 8925/tilt you are in the wrong subforum, you should be looking at the kaiser section. the 8525 does belong here

ok so i just got sent an att 8525. I am planning on unlocking this phone.
I havent been on these boards in forever but has anything changed? Is there anything in these rebranded att phones that may not let me unlock? is there a newer tutorial?
thanks guys

Hi,
I just wanted to share that I unlocked my 8525 with HTC_Hermes_SIM_CID_Unlock_v3a on Vista. It went through with not one issue or hiccup.
Thanks
Greg

Are all Polaris CID-locked?

Seeing how Bepe's WM6.1 ROM requires HardSPL, does this mean all Polaris are CID locked?
Are there any issues when upgrading (like IPL/SPL problems on G3 vs G4 Wizards) that I should be aware of?
Thinking about getting a Polaris but just want to see what I'm getting myself into first. I personally have a G3 Wizard so I never really had to worry as much about bricking my phone.
If not all Polaris are CID locked, is there a way to tell if it is on the spot?
Also have some general questions on purchasing in the General Polaris forum here (600 for a LNIB Polaris Too good to be true?)

Polaris is not CID locked, basically.
If you buy a Polaris marked by a carrier (like O2 or Telecom) that should be CID locked, but where's the problem again? We have CID unlocker!

wonderiuy said:
Polaris is not CID locked, basically.
If you buy a Polaris marked by a carrier (like O2 or Telecom) that should be CID locked, but where's the problem again? We have CID unlocker!
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This is not true... Polaris is not SIM locked, basically.
But... all devices are CID-locked, until you use hard-SPL of course!

athanaso77 said:
This is not true... Polaris is not SIM locked, basically.
But... all devices are CID-locked, until you use hard-SPL of course!
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A few of us fortunate ones were able to get a pre-release Polaris which were not CID locked, but this was very limited quantities shipped to distributors for initial evaluations. The way to tell on the spot, as per your original questin is to invoke bootloader and read the SPL. Mine came with a MFG SPL, not a fixed version. It is highly unlikely that any unit bought from general retail woul be such a device, but that is how you would check it.

Excuse me mates, but he is asking about CID locked, not SIM locked.
CID = Carrier ID that means that if the phone is CID locked it is linked to a Carrier (ie Vodafone, Orange, etc etc) and you can use only that carrier's SIM
I bought my Polaris from Mediamarkt (they have tons of) and is NOT linked to any carrier (i can put whatever SIM form whatever carrier in it) so is CID unlocked.
We r saying the same things mates. I call CID what u call SIM.
Farewell

wonderiuy said:
Excuse me mates, but he is asking about CID locked, not SIM locked.
CID = Carrier ID that means that if the phone is CID locked it is linked to a Carrier (ie Vodafone, Orange, etc etc) and you can use only that carrier's SIM
I bought my Polaris from Mediamarkt (they have tons of) and is NOT linked to any carrier (i can put whatever SIM form whatever carrier in it) so is CID unlocked.
We r saying the same things mates. I call CID what u call SIM.
Farewell
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So basically, what's the difference between CID-Unlocker and Sim-Unlocker, because we have thoses 2 here?

Ther eis no difference, they r the same.
Really do we have a CID and a SIM unlocker?
I bet we have only 1

This is all utter bull****!
CID lock is completely different to a SIM lock. All devices coming from HTC are CID locked to prevent you from loading a non-genuine ROM onto the device. SIM lock has nothing to do with CID lock bud. My orbit 2 is CID but not SIM locked, it's not connected. But there are Polaris out there (no orbits/dopods but Touch Cruises) which are sold branded and SIM locked and of course, CID locked.
SIM is NOT the same as CID. It never was and will never be.
dau_xu said:
So basically, what's the difference between CID-Unlocker and Sim-Unlocker, because we have thoses 2 here?
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There are devices which dont feature a SIM lock, they work with all SIMs out there on all networks. But they all are CID locked. Those devices can be unlocked to eat custom ROMs using the HardSPL. The HardSPL skips the check the original loader does when you try to load a ROM onto the device.
But there are devices which are supposed to be locked to the carrier you bought it from. Very much like the American iPhone: it's (well, it should be ) tied to AT&T and doesnt eat custom SIM cards. For that case Olipro created the second unlocker available, is a combined solution. Its the HardSPL (letting you flash a custom ROM) with a SIM-unlocker (which will let you use any SIM) strapped on top. Since I have a CID locked only device, I didnt look into the unlocker that deeply, but I don't even know if it features the function to leave the SPL alone and only SIM-unlock your device... But, to be brutally honest, who around xda-dev is interested in that

schaggo said:
This is all utter bull****!
CID lock is completely different to a SIM lock. ....
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Thanks mate...
I was a minute ahead to post the link to the explanations in the WIKI for wonderjuy (sorry, don't take it personal)

Oh no, my post wasnt meant in any offending way. But I'm quite sorry, its kind of hard to nicely explain it after so many very determined wrong statements of wonderjuy. But yeah, don't take it personal and the correct information can be found in the WIKI.

Seems that I used wrong words - so please:
Accept my apologize if I offended somebody!

wonderiuy said:
Ther eis no difference, they r the same.
Really do we have a CID and a SIM unlocker?
I bet we have only 1
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Don't bet because you will lose. Sorry... but you have messed things up and you are completely wrong!!!

YEs, sry all...there's always room for knowledge

Not a problem at all buddy, thats right. Theres always room for knowledge and thats in fact why we all gathered here at xda-developers.com

Solutions for HTC P4350

So, this must be my first post in this great forum so I'm not quite sure if I'm doing this in the right place.
I'm interested in unlocking my HTC P4350 and before I've posted this thread, I've already read most of the topics that talked about unlocking SIM or CID the Herald. Although, some questions remained and that's why I'm opening this thread.
First, I still can't get the difference between CID and SIM unlock and the way in which they both interact. Don't know if by CID unlocking the device I get SIM unlock, etc.
Secondly, I saw that most users tell people to follow this method, http://www.imei-check.co.uk/heraldunlock.php but I can't really judge it to say if it's safe for my money and device.
Another option was to contact Vodafone from Portugal directly and buy them a unlock code. Although I'm really not sure of this because I want a full device unlock option (CID and SIM unlock I guess) that allows me to work with other network SIM cards, to flash the device with new ROM's and to upgrade to any Windows Mobile I want. Doesn't matter if the solution is free or not. Just name one please !
PS: Also found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433544 but I really don't know if it helps me in any way.
Peace.

CID Unlock - CID stands for Country ID..if you get to CID Unlock your phone, it means you can flash any (officially released) ROMS released for Herald. I suggest you load Hard SPL on your phone, it gets CID Unlocked plus you're safe from bricking it from wrong/bad flashing. See here
SIM Unlock - Would unlock your phone from a specific carrier and be able to use all SIM cards
It doesn't necessarily mean that when you CID Unlock your phone, it gets network unlocked too, no... they are done separately... some utilities (well on other devices) get them integrated on a single program (none i think for the Herald)
On the case of www.imei-check.co.uk, after the payment, they will be providing you an unlock kit that would SIM and CID Unlock your phone..
CID Unlock ( free thru Hard SPL)
SIM Unlock - I guess you have to pay for it since there are still no other free solutions to SIM Unlock a Herald. Contact jockyw2001 for a good price for unlocking.

Thank you very much for the help !

I'm going to use this post to say that I'm very happy with the simple and easy way that jockyw2001 got to SIM unlock my Herald. After long research in a way to unlock my P4350, a member, in this thread told me to talk to him and I did. After a 20 minute e-mail talk, I've got my Herald SIM unlocked for a small fee of 25$ US.
Nice job jocky.

So, I'm going to use this thread to put my questions to avoid starting new ones.
I've already SIM unlocked my phone with jocky and now I've done the HardSPL method to CID unlock the device.
Now comes my really noobish part. If i'm not in mistake, a WM6 update came out to the Herald and I'd like to install it on my PDA. I've got already a different looking OS because the HardSPL method but my 2 questions are about the WM6 update and the TouchIT OS install. Are they both the same thing? Which do you advise to install on the Herald?
Maybe my question is out of the context but I can't explain myself any better :x.
Regards and thank you for reading.

jncunha said:
So, I'm going to use this thread to put my questions to avoid starting new ones.
I've already SIM unlocked my phone with jocky and now I've done the HardSPL method to CID unlock the device.
Now comes my really noobish part. If i'm not in mistake, a WM6 update came out to the Herald and I'd like to install it on my PDA. I've got already a different looking OS because the HardSPL method but my 2 questions are about the WM6 update and the TouchIT OS install. Are they both the same thing? Which do you advise to install on the Herald?
Maybe my question is out of the context but I can't explain myself any better :x.
Regards and thank you for reading.
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true in essence its actually the same but the toucht it roms are lot better it comes with a lot of reg edits so it runs stable/better/faster it comes with a custom theme wich imho looks pretty badass but also check out ttrans open touch its really good as well

ilikepu said:
true in essence its actually the same but the toucht it roms are lot better it comes with a lot of reg edits so it runs stable/better/faster it comes with a custom theme wich imho looks pretty badass but also check out ttrans open touch its really good as well
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But what ROM versio of TouchIT should I use? There are a ton of them in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358030.

jncunha said:
But what ROM versio of TouchIT should I use? There are a ton of them in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358030.
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its best if you look through rom development but ill post a good one for u

I was thinking on the TouchIT WM6.1 Full. What do you think?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365601
yep personally i like ttrans open touch 7.2 it has a very nice ui

I really can't find the link to download the ROM in the threads :x. Can anyone help me?

jncunha said:
I really can't find the link to download the ROM in the threads :x. Can anyone help me?
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jncunha said:
Secondly, I saw that most users tell people to follow this method, http://www.imei-check.co.uk/heraldunlock.php but I can't really judge it to say if it's safe for my money and device.
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I just used them to unlock a T-mobile Wing. Worked beautifully, was fast and easy (with the time difference, everything was ready by the time I woke up this morning after ordering it last night).
Edit: I see you already unlocked... Oh well, that'll teach me to read the whole thread before hitting the quick reply...

Using my Artemis in the USA?

Hey guys, please excuse my noobness, I have read thoroughly but I am still confused!
I have an O2 Orbit (ie Artemis) and I am going to the USA soon.
I've become a bit confused as to what I need to do to my Artemis to get it working with a prepay sim in the states.
I've seen the posts about cid unlocking, but I'm not sure if that's the same as a sim unlock, and I don't want to brick my phone!
I'm not too bothered about cooked roms etc, I have updated to WM6 and I'm reasonably happy with it, I just want to be able to use my phone in the USA.
Would someone be kind enough to take the time to explain what I need to do?
Thanks

I forgot to add, I tried this tutorial to perform a sim unlock:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400445
but unfortunately the 'artemis sim unlock' download link is broken

I think it should already work in the US. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that only phones bought in the US from a provider are SIM-locked. CID unlocking is only used to help you flash your phone to a different ROM, which, as you already mentioned, you are not interested in doing.

I see, so CID unlocking is nothing to do with what I want, I simply need a SIM unlock, assuming my phone is SIM locked.
SIM locking is normal practice for UK service providers, so I assume it is locked.
Is there any way I can tell if my phone is SIM locked, or do I have to test it by putting a SIM card from a different provider in it?

How to unlock a rooted/custom firmware.

I have by quirky ways rooted a brand new unlocked G1, installed hardSPL, the recovery.img from the big unlock thread, and JF 1.51 (adp version).
But for some reason my phone is still simlocked to t-mobile, and I can't undestand why. It asks for "SIM network unlock PIN". In theDudes ROM I couldn't even get past this screen, in JF I can dismiss it. But still not use my norwegian SIM card. Wy? I can't think where this SIM lock is placed, and couldn't imagine it would still be there after installing ADP firmware... Is this something built in the GSM-hardwares firmware?

rooting your phone and sim unlocking it are 2 different things. You need to talk to T-mobile about an unlock code (it's free)

Argh, I really thought custom ROM would take care of it. With full root access to the system, is there no way to fix this? Should be. 8P
Can i send T-mobile a mail with IMEI and ask for unlock code? I have my doubts... Bought it from ebay, so I have no receipt or anything.

I doubt T-mobile would do it being that it was bought from ebay (but I can't be sure) There might be someone here that may know how to get it unlocked for you that or jsut try searching for unlocking g1 (might come up with something)

Please post in the General for this has nbearing on development of the G1
Thanks
moved to general

Mikey1022 said:
Please post in the General for this has nbearing on development of the G1
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Sorry, was lurking around in development, didn't consider posting it elsewhere.
cidica: google only reveals payment options, not so interested in that. Google also results in several sites and guides, claiming rooting and flashing custom ROMs will allow use of any simcard. But alas, apparently not. Still wondering if it is something I have done wrong. Why shouldn't a custom ROM solve this problem?